I believe it was JFK that said "While Capitalism isn't perfect, a Capitalist country hasn't had to make a wall to keep their people in." (or something along those lines)
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The KGB visited an old man in Siberia. They told him that they were considering opening up the Bearing Straight to foot traffic and anyone who wanted to cross into Alaska during the winter would be allowed. They asked him what he thought about it. " I would climb the tallest tree" he replied. " Why would you do that?" " So I am not trampled by everyone leaving" This angered them and they asked " what would you do if we opened it up the other way and Americans can walk into the USSR?!" "Again I climb the tallest tree" he replied. "Why would you do that?" They asked confused. " So I don't miss seeing the one person dumb enough to come over here "
@paulvamos7319 Most of the media set up at the Brandenburg gate, because Straße des 17 Juni, a wide avenue, was blocked to most vehicles from the Soviet War Memorial to the gate and there was plenty of room for media vehicles. Checkpoint Charlie was on Friedrichstraße, a narrow street which wouldn't handle the volume of media trucks.
@@rnascak I was going to be graduating high school and going into the air force (For the food mainly and, I don't like guns but, I wanted to help out any way I could! Too bad I never got the chance because, I was in a car accident and broke my back! I can't believe it's been 35 years! 🤣
@@paulvamos7319 Well, most AF occupations don't involve guns, and when I served, qualifications were every 3 years. I was a radio tech, yet earned the AF Expert Marksmanship Ribbon for both rifle and pistol. In fact, the range office knew it was the first time I had ever fired a handgun, and asked how I qualified expert. I told him that I was a NJ Sicilian and perhaps it was in my blood! 😊
@@rnascakSo why we have walls in the world 5x more after the fall of berlin wall ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s6tyePL-S-0.htmlsi=Qmq_eVHRg1-FLzgp
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I was a US Army MP in Germany from 1982-1985. Later on, in the Reserves, I was stationed with a guy that was ON DUTY as the MP at Checkpoint Charlie that night. He said it was the craziest night in his life. They called back to the barracks, everyone got kitted up, and headed to the guard house.
The wall coming down was a feeling that can probably only be beat by liberation after WW2 occupation. I wish i could ve bottled that feeling and give you a sip of it . I was 20 and a cold war kid that just signed up for military service. We won, we had survived the cold war, anything was possible, there would be no more wars, worldpeace and prosperity for everyone seemed like a genuine possibility... ...... ah well, we know how that went 😂, but that was ho we felt in that brief moment in time. Glorious and victorious. The Anticipation was killing me guys 😊. Been counting down hours since i knew you would drop this one and the berlin airlift one. It is very personal to me. Thank you soo much for spreading these stories, it needs to be told. ( indeed the wrong order, but for once idc 😂) Again, thanks a million for making me smile 😂( and shed a tear😢) . You rock. 🤘❤️🇪🇺🇺🇲
I am German. My dad was 1943 vintage. I‘ll never forget him sobbing with joy downstairs when the news broke that the Wall had fallen on 9th November 1989.
I've never felt as "German" as when watching the wall come down while I happened to be in the UK. An event I believed would never, ever happen. Thanks for sharing!
As Russian I wish this was true because our life was better back then, but we are more similar to empire times now than to USSR. Current government ideology is Eurasian nationalism and not Marxism anymore. Elites still rule Russia and inequality i still big
Could it be that the West failed to act with a Marshall Plan 2.0 and stabilize the former Soviet Union in the transition from communism to capitalism? Also a brief military occupation by NATO such that the general populace would get the impression that the Cold War was finished and that the Politburo had been defeated.
I was in college in the USA when the wall fell, we had already had a study abroad class scheduled for the next summer and the end of our semester ended up close to Berlin. We got to Berlin on July 4th, 1990. Checkpoint Charlie was removed on July 1st. We all were able to walk across into east Berlin and back to the west. You could tell which ones were from the east and which were from the west, not just by how malnourished/well fed they were but the look on their faces. This was 8 months after the wall fell. Already the ingenuity that is an inherent part of all human beings had taken over. Booths and tents were along every road at the checkpoints. They were renting out hammers and chisels (oh irony of irony) to tourists so that they could hack a piece of the wall off. Also, yes there were the unscrupulous who hacked pieces off themselves and then spray painted them to sell to those who’d rather not do the hacking themselves. I paid those marvelous entrepreneurs what they asked to rent a hammer and chisel to do my part to tear down that abominable wall. The absolute most valuable thing that I came back to the United States with (including the knowledge from my classes) was the pieces of the Berlin Wall that I’d hacked off myself which I gave as souvenirs to my friends and family. I still have one piece and I treasure it because of what it represents. If you don’t know what that is, you’re part of the reason we had to tear down that wall!
This is real stuff guys, actually happened in my lifetime and I'm 66. I remember watching on news when soldiers walked barbed wire across the street, separating East and West Berlin. Then shooting people who tried to get over that wall. Heartbreaking!1989 was fabulous and we have a piece of that Berlin wall now.
20:58 In November 1989 is wrong. This started in the summer of 1989. As citizens traveled to the West via Hungary. And at the beginning of September 1989, the Monday demonstrations began in Leipzig. And later covered the entire GDR.
There's a German comedy on youtube called Bornholmer Straße, told from the point of view of the East German border guards the night the wall fell. You need to turn on CC and watch with subtitles, but I thought it was a interesting way to tell the story.
Fascism was Mussolini's political ideology in Italy. Because he was first before Hitler to implement his ideas it is an umbrella term for the political ideologies of axis powers during WWII. Funny enough the commies were initially allied with the Nazis and they jointly invaded Poland. When they broke Poland in half, they had common military parades. In one in particular they paraded under a victory arch decorated with nazi swastikas and commie red stars. Also Gestapo and NKVD had joint security conferences on how they could exterminate the Polish resistance as quick as possible. As soon as the reds took over their part of Poland they massacred 22 thousand Poles, the infamous Katyn massacre
I live on the border to Czech and have also relatives there, but we couldn’t go to visit them, because my father was targeted by the Czech government - a sad but hilarious story by the way. So I always could imagine the feelings in Germany. The day I saw the opening of the Check point Charly on TV - I couldn’t believe it it was 🤯. We were crazy happy we had to cry - we knew the border to Czech will also fall - what an unbelievable relief. In the past for me the situation was like a dark cloud, we always dreamed to go over the border just for a coffee and maybe for a beer - although we have ourself an amazing one 😅 Love from Austria 🇦🇹
Great reaction! And the look on Nic's face as he stares at the camera and says "I can do this all day." And you effing know he will! Slamming down facts and proving that Communism, while it may sound great in theory, is absolute ratcrap in practice. At best. Also: WATCH RAMAGE'S RAMPAGE FOR THE BEST COMMERCIAL EVER. Also also: I mean, just watch everydamnthing Nic does. His toilet paper rant is an awesome rant plus amazing historical lesson. Not even joking.
I was just a little boy when they built the Berlin wall. My father was in the Air Force and I remember him saying that Vietnam was kicking off and now they built the wall. "All Hell's go'na break loose."
To this day in the streets of Berlin, there is a brass rail enbeded in the pavement. It marks the exact position where the Wall once stood. So no one will ever forget how the city, and the country were imprisoned.
Interestingly enough, no eastern-bloc country called their system 'communist' because they weren't communist. The called it 'the dictatorship of the working class', so they actually called the child by its name. If you read Karl Marx, you'll learn that he predicted that kind of system, calling it a neccessary step when transitioning from capitalism to communism, so the assumption that the soviet union or East Germany were communist is actually false.
My dad served in the royal air force from 1958 to 1970 as a telecommunications rigger installing radio and radar for NATO forces. One of his first postings overseas was Berlin. He used to tell me about things that happened when stationed there lol. Like a time when him and his mates was going back to barracks after a drunken night out on the town, when one of his mates decides to climb a guard tower and stole a russian flag of the tower. Before the concrete wall existed east and west Berlin was separated by a barbed wire fence with guard towers every few hundred meters or so. Im guessing that would have been 1959 or 1960. Anyway the next day my dad's commanding officer gets a phone call from his russian conterpart saying "we understand you British have a strange sense of humour but can we have our flag back please". My dad and his squad got in trouble for that and the Russians got their flag back. My dad always used to say he was glad it was the Russians that night on the guard tower and not the east Germans as they would have shot my dad and his mates there and then
To this day there are railway lines in east Germany where you can clearly see that the railway embankment has once been built for two tracks but one of them has been removed. That happened a lot. The rails were shipped to the Soviet Union after WW2 to rebuild their railway lines. It's quite overgrown by now but one can still make it out.. Still the entire "prison" thing is somewhat exaggerated. People from East Germany were free to visit other countries in the eastern block. Romania and Yugoslavia were popular holiday destinations. I have no idea what makes a random US army veteran an authority on german history but he pretty much only repeats the typical western stereotypes and - let's call it "the part of the story the west likes to tell" - without knowing anything about what life in East Germany was actually like. He keeps referring to the regime as "USSR", which doesn't really make sense, East Germany and the Soviet Union were two very different countries. Unfortunately you repeated some of his false narratives like the claim that there was no private property in East Germany, which is bs of course. And one should also keep in mind that millions of people just lived their normal lifes in that country. Without feeling imprisoned in any way. History books like to tell the stories of those who did though. Guess as usual history is written by the victors... Ultimately this video is a wasted opportunity. I had some small hopes when he started by talking about the fundamentally different starting conditions of the two Germanies but then he unfortunately just fell in line with the standard narrative of west (yay!) vs east (boo!!!). Too bad...
Hey Micha, to start i'm not here to fight 😂, there's enough of that going around. You explained your point in a good manner, i will try to convey my feelings in the same way. Personally i feel more triggered by his BS view on the metric system than communism tho 😂. I dont know your age but i see you are from Leipzig. My mother was born in Berlin on januari 24 1946. Migrated to belgium in 1954. After my time in the military, i went to university in 1999 and spent a year ( 2000-2001) as an exchange student on the Karl Marx university in your lovely city. I was already 31 and didnt really mix with the youngsters, so i mingled with the elder generation. I spent the first 3 weeks submerging myself in the history, the professors and fellow students did a really good job showing us around, and telling us their personal experience. Die Wende started in Leipzig, the candle marches, etc. . Altho there were some nostalgic about the past, most were adament the DDR regime was awfull. Granted i mainly talked to the academic population. As quite a few of the locals were a bit wary of foreigners ( even if my german was fluent ) , and certainly the elder population had an aura of extreme paranoia instilled by years and years of people spying on eachother. The files in the stasi museum are telling quite the story, i recommend a visit. My point is i think i have a pretty good idea what life was like. Indeed this is the view of americans, TFE and our friends Daniel and Spencer, that only know the narative that has been fed to them. So it is good you point that out. They have to realise that, and i actually think they do, and even TFE when you get him in a face to face conversation will tone down a bit. But you also realise you can not possibly explain it all in a 15min video. It is an extremely simplified version of reality. Intended to be funny. In my experience a lot of americans are open to discuss it in an adult way and know things are grey and not black and white. But these videos dont help ofcourse. But still i am a fan, just coz it is funny. I dont agree with with every commedian, but i will laugh coz its funny. The bottomline here remains the same tho, communism always leads to a dictatorial regime, a corrupt state and often isnt able to supply the goods and services the population it needs and or want. Yes you could travel, but only if you were a good communist, there was no room for different opinions. If you had them you better keep it to yourself coz your own brother might betray you. Altho the DDR was supposed to be the posterchild of communism, it didnt work. The free-est communist state was Youghoslavia, but are you free if you are forcefully moved to another region, in order to spread out minorities and prevent an organised revolt? . Marx and his mate Engels totally disregarded the human nature and psychology. And that is one of selfpreservation, humans are "selfish" by nature. First me, then my children and family, then my local community, and so on. This is why communism doesnt work. Individual needs and wants are irrelivant to a system like that. Corruption and dictatorial regimes are inevitable and the only way to run it. Now is democracy perfect, hell no. Neither is capitalism, i totally agree unbridled capitalism is good for some, bad for most. But the free market within a welfare state as we know it in europe really is Capitalism where we cut of the rough edges. We let capitalism pay for the security net. It is far from perfect, even TFE and our 2 friends agree on it, but it is the best we have to offer, and it kinda works out for most of the population. Anyway that was my 2cents. I hope to return to Leipzig once more, it is always worth the long drive. Is Moritzbastei still going strong? Last time i visited was 2012. Take care, and keep up the constructive comments. 🤘❤️🇪🇺🇺🇲🇩🇪
Lieber Michael... Als jemand, geboren in den 60ern, der den kalten Krieg von Kindesbeinen an mitgemacht hat und als Westdeutscher ohne jegliche Ost- Verwandtschaft, nicht nur die DDR, sondern auch noch die CSSR, mehrfach vor dem Mauerfall bereiste, muss ich dir sagen, dass nicht alles stimmt was du hier so geschrieben hast. Das einzige Land im Ostblock, dass du als Ostdeutscher ohne Visa bereisen konntest, war die CSSR. Für alle anderen Staaten, inclusive der UdSSR, benötigte man ein Visa. Und für Jugoslawien, als verfeindeter Staat zum Stalinismus, konntest du dir den Antrag auf eine Reisegenehmigung vollkommen schenken. Darauf hatten höchstens absolut verdiente und linientreue Kader eine Chance.Und natürlich ist es Blödsinn zu glauben, dass Dinge von Tragweite in der DDR, nicht von Moskau abgesegnet waren. Das blieb so, bis etwa zur Zeit von Tschernobyl. Deswegen wurde der Sowjetische Botschafter in Pankow, gern auch als "regierender Botschafter" (eine Anspielung auf der Westberliner Bürgermeister) verspottet. Und es war auch klar, dass die ostzonale Regierung sich nur halten konnte, durch die sowjetischen Truppen im Land. Das war spätestens seit dem 17. Juni 1953 glasklar... Und natürlich wollten eine Menge Leute, dem Land den Rücken kehren. Die hier genannte Zahl von 4 Millionen, ist natürlich zu hoch gegriffen. Aber gesichert ist (und das sind natürlich nur die mindest- Zahlen), dass mehr als 2,2 Millionen Mitteldeutsche, dem Land zwischen 1949 und 1961, den Rücken gekehrt haben. Und, was heut gerne vergessen wird... Die Bolschewiken haben nach ihrem Sieg und bis zur Gründung der DDR, zwischen 500.000 und 600.000 Deutsche in ihrer Besatzungszone, als politische Gegner ermordet. Dazu benutzten sie mit Sinn für praktisches Handeln, die alten Nazi- Konzentrationslager. Stalin hatte eben Sinn für Humor! Zudem, waren bei der Vertreibung der Volksdeutschen aus Osteuropa (min. 12, 2 Millionen), bis zu 1,6 Millionen Menschen umgekommen. Auch das geschah in Stalins Machtbereich und vor allem NACH dem Krieg! Auch das ist natürlich von den Menschen im Osten, nicht übersehen, oder vergessen worden. Deshalb sahen die meisten Menschen (ganz besonders im Osten) die DDR als ein Staat geführt von Verbrechern und sowjetischer Erfüllungsgehilfen an. Natürlich hat dieser Amerikaner, nicht den Kern getroffen und eine Menge Dinge nur halb, oder platt wiedergegeben. Aber die DDR einer Mohrenwäsche zu unterziehen, ist vergebene Liebesmüh'. Dafür wurden nach dem kalten Krieg, zu viele Akten in der DDR und auch in Moskau aufgefunden, die alles hübsch belegen. Denn genau wie die Nazis, waren die Stalinisten, erbsenzählerische Buchhalter- Seelen, die alles hübsch dokumentiert haben...
@@CobraChicken101 hey there. Wow, that was even longer than my comment. First thing: in 2000/2001 it wasn't "Karl Marx University" anymore. It only had that name during the GDR. Now it's just University of Leipzig without any other name. And I went there too, albeit a few years later. 😊 Of course I know about the Stasi Museum. I've been there several times and it is indeed well worth a visit. I didn't mean to insinuate that I prefered the east german regime over our reunited Germany. What bugs me is that the (hi)story of East Germany is usually told by two sets of people. Those who opposed the regime and consequently suffered under it. And people from the west who have experienced it only indirectly. That leaves a huge part of the story untold and consequently people thinking that there was no other part. That the GDR was a prison where nobody trusted nobody and everyone suffered and everything was bad. It simply is somewhat weird when the image history books try to sell is so divergent from what my parents and grandparents tell me. And no, none of them were spying on their neighbours or working for the regime. They just lived their lifes. And quite successfully. Some in my family were renowned scientists, regularly travelling to the west for conferences. One of them once told me the story of how appaled she was when they were in the west in the 80s and for the first time ever saw a homeless person begging in the street. Something that was completetly unheard of back home and how she thought "that's supposed to be the great western world??" Anyway, just to show you an aspect of the east you may not have known so far, here is my favourite song of an East German band: 😊 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H7llmuBopHc.htmlsi=hIjdvDFPYbKt0fKW
@@michaausleipzigPerfect reply , 😂. I get your point and have to agree. History is written by the victors and some people may have had a different experience. Context and looking at all point of views is important. The only thing that bothers me is that i have always called it Karl marx university, so i pulled out my scrapbook with my old student pass and you are right, it says Universität Leipzig (Volkswirtschaftslehr/Betriebswirtschaftslehr) . It took 23 year and an unknown youtube commentor to make me realise that 😂😂😂😂 damned. I appreciate the music btw, think i ve seen this before
Every man is a Berliner, forced to look upon a scar. . . . As long as this gate is closed, as long as this scar of a wall is permitted to stand, it is not the German question alone that remains open, but the question of freedom for all mankind. . . .Quote , unknown
There was an old Russian communist saying. In Russia everyone is equal but some are more equal then others. East Germany couldn't survive without the old Soviet Union but if East Germany hadn't collapsed in 1989 then it would have done in 1991 when Russia collapsed. Saw a video on steam trains in East Germany in 1990 when nothing had changed and the majority of East Germans travelled by public transport because they couldn't afford to buy a car that is of course if they were even allowed to have a car. Parts of East Germany looked like they hadn't changed much since 1945. In the Hartz Mountains a train took people up to the Brocken a tall mountain where an old Russia military base was. The base still had Russian soldiers on it all standing around bored waiting to get orders to go home and East Germans getting a chance to see their former oppressors. What East Germans found the hardest was that in 1989 prices were still at 1936 levels.
great reaction today is ANZAC Day here today. Today we wear a red poppy and eating ANZAC biscuit. One the biggest AFL Game today between Essendon vs Collingwood. Also most times the movie Gallipoli which was about Gallipoli campaign
Related to the WW2 stories, I highly recommend to you both to watch the story of Ramon Subejano. A US-Filipino soldier/sniper who singlehandedly killed hundreds of German Soldiers. Hope his story will inspire more people. Thank you😊
Freedom and capitalism have been intertwined since the very early 1600's but capitalism is a system of production and communism is a totalitarian ideology. Communism is the end stage the Soviet Union and the GDR claimed to working to with their 'dictatorship' of the proletariat, which had a stated capitalist system of production. Capitalism is not an ideology. As much as I hate totalitarianism, the people in the GDR generally had a very happy childhood, the working classes had mostly a care free life with lots of leisure time and leisure opportunity, within the country or other communist countries. It was mostly the higher educated late teens that started to feel the stranglehold of the state over their opinions and their future. Especially after a few decades when the immense power of the state would inevitably lead to nepotism, corruption and bullying. I'm not defending it, but there are more sides to it. Another one is that capitalist democracies did much better when they still felt they had to show they were much better than the communist countries.
@@arnodobler1096 I agree, and I with him with the general good vs bad idea, but if you look at China now it's not the lack of capitalism that is terrible for the people, because there isn't any.
@@DenUitvreterexactly! Far too often people are like "capitalism = freedom, communism = dictstorship". Both Russia and China are capitalist dictatorships! 🤷♂️
@@arnodobler1096 No lack of capitalism in China. It is capitalism with more state control, but still full fledged capitalism. Capitalism is not an ideology and can be combined with totalitarianism, Nazi Germany did it too.
I am confused. I’ve never heard any one in the west suggest communism is better than capitalism (except some college students or old time hippies) So, why such anger about it. The differences are mainly based on how to improve capitalism so it works for everyone. The political extremes are just fanning the flames to benefit their political power.
A lot of his vitriol toward communism comes from the fact that he is currently going to college as a history major, so he has to listen to it from his classmates. Plus, the fact that communism doesn't work, because people are involved.
Confusing statement. Capitalism and Communism are total opposites. To say that communism tried another approach to improve capitalism doesn't make any sense. They hate the whole concept of it.
Weeell, the idealistic version of communism isn't bad. Just like the idea of colonizing Mars with our current technology is feasible. But as soon as reality raises its ugly but inescapable head it turns belly up. The idea where everyone (!) acts only according to universally accepted moral standards beyond any self-interest, isn't jealous of others, never displays greed, or desires power, or craves anything that isn't available to everyone in equal measure due to individual desires, weeeell, it's idealistic but naiive. As such it simply has never worked. Because people have never been completely altruistic for the sole reason to want to be altruistic. People are always looking out for themselves at least to a degree of survival. Maybe, if the vast majority of our personal desires are satisfied are we able to find that shred of altruism in us. But the hope that EVERYONE will act this way from the goodness of their heart... Well, let's say that hope has at least been severely misplaced.😂 Edit 1: there's a LOT to be said about Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary at the time. The Poles had practiced a public resistance against their government by using their workers' union Solidarnosc to protest the extreme forms the government took from 1980 forward. Yes, as a 'socialist brother state' they dared to protest the Soviet leadership from Moscow. The Solidarnosc had provided the first falling stone in the avalanche destabilizing the Soviet Union. Czechoslovakia allowed more or less free travel from East Germany into their country. In 1988. But in contrast to previous decades they more or less waved anybody through, and didn't give a crap about anyone entering the West German embassy grounds, which were obviously extraterritorial. So anyone on tge embassy grounds could apply for political asylum in West Germany which was usually granted immediately. The same happened in Hungary. This however caused the West German embassies in these two countries to be suddenly massively overcrowded. Buildings that were meant to house a few dozen persons suddenly had to support several hundred people. The West German consulate then had to apply for bus shuttles with extraterritorial status to transport these refugees out of Czechoslovakia or Hungary, while the East German government demanded the extradition of these Landesflüchtlinge/ country refugees. All the while in East Germany people went on peaceful candle marches through the cities. At first a few people, them hundreds, later tens right up to hundreds of thousands. Even when StaSi agents tried to provoke aggressions and violence, the peaceful protesters simply dispersed from such groups and reformed elsewhere. And then came the massive change in Hungarian politics. They decided to remove all border controls to the Austrian border. Suddenly again hundreds of East Germans took their Trabant and Wartburg cars, drove to their socialist brother nation, and tried to find solitary spots on the green border between Hungary and the neutral nation Austria. They couldn't, wouldn't dare to believe that this was true, so many went on foot, just what they could carry on their backs, and fled through forests and over meadows in the deep of the night into Austria. The brain drain began anew. At first hundreds, then thousands began the trek to Hungary. Until the East German government closed its borders to Hungary. This however reinforced the marches to unheard proportions. And then came the demands for more democratic processes, and finally free travel. The rest was more or less like in this video. On the day the border was opened, the West German parliament received the news, and in a show of unity, all members of parliament, from all parties and all spectrums, stood up and sang the German anthem together, often interlocking arms with their erstwhile politicial rivals.
The best comment I ever heard on this subject - "The Soviet Union controlled 20 million Germans for about forty years - and all they ever did was teach them to NOT work."
Is that a joke??? The East Germans had to work twice as hard to survive than the West Germans. One West German politician even said that, once reunified, he hoped that Germany would retain the personality of an East German. Hard-working, humble, and committed to his community.
@@Danisachanit is a funny quote😂, but you are 100% right it doesnt makes sense if you know any east german people. Just like the poles ,they are hard workers. My brothers firm has employed quite a few top class welders from eastern germany, and he speaks highly of them. They work 4 days of 12hr shifts and then drive 800km home for the weekend to be with their families. No one can tell me that is not dedication to work, and better your situation. Ok they are paid very well, but it is quite the effort they put in also. Why not Belgian Welders -> impossible to find, kids dont like working with their hands anymore, even tho those who do can earn more than most university graduates.
@@Danisachan It was not an insult to East Germans. So kindly get off your high horse and consider what West Germany made of itself as distinct from what the USSR allowed East Germany to make of itself. Goodbye.
@@7thsealord888 How can that whole statement not be an insult? Only a moron could have said it. Prove me wrong and we shall talk again, but otherwise I am glad not to hear from you again, if the truth offends YOU.
