So if Coca-Cola is the only company legally allowed to import Coca leaf extract then they don't need to hide the recipe. We couldn't make it if we wanted.
Coca leaf isn't the "secret" ingredient... The recipe itself is secret like the formulation for most soft drinks is. They make a big deal of it for marketing reasons.
I'd love to see a behind-the-scenes episode of Food Wars where it's the planning and shopping phase for each episode. I imagine the reaction of the store clerks seeing whomever buying hundreds of dollars worth of a single product would also be funny.
@@triplea5293 i find that interesting, as here in the uk imported american drinks have skyrocketed in popularity - there are many 'american candy' stores in cities now (although apparently quite a lot of these are fronts 😂) and corner shops usually stock imported american soft drinks, the most commonly found brand being fanta. id always assumed that people were big into fanta in the US because of how many varieties there were (grape, pineapple, two varients of apple, strawberry, cherry, mango, grape, peach and that bright blue berry one) - in the uk we just have orange, lemon (goated), fruit twist (a kind of red tropical flavour) and a couple other gimmick no-sugar only flavours that i dont really count. do most american drinks have this many flavours? because i dont understand why they sustain such a large product range if their customer base is shrinking rather than expanding
normally i tend to stick with very specific channels for my reccomended, and food doesn't tend to be one of them. but what i am absolutely fascinated by as a british person is how much diffrent it really is to the US, and that always makes me flock to this channel, because i know most of the people here are probably on the other side of the lake, so seeing it from the less common perspective is always fascinating.
That point about the safe containing the recipe of “7X” is true. My aunt in Atlanta started working for coke as a secretary in the 60s. She retired about 20 years ago as a VP in the accounting department. Her job was to keep track of the purchasing of the ingredients for their proprietary ingredient “7X”. She is on a lifetime retainer to not reveal those 7 ingredients. When I was a kid and visiting her, she frequently had cases of “diet drink A”, B C etc that we were encouraged to drink and provide feedback for the development of Coke’s various diet options throughout the years.
Fun stuff. Some notes: - The 35 pack of Coke is sold in all of the bulk stores/clubs, i.e. Sam's Club (walmart), BJs, & Costco; saw them today while out shopping. AFAIK though they don't ship it; gotta actually drive to the store & pick it up. All Coke products come in 35 ct plastic wrapped cardboard bases; all Pepsi products come in 36 ct boxes. - Re: cocaine; the name "Coca-Cola" actually stands for Coca leaves (cocaine) & Kola nuts (caffeine), so the name actually means "cocaine & caffeine"; - and yes, it originally had cocaine in it, and was made by a pharmacist as a medicinal drink to cure stuff, like drug/alcohol addiction, low energy (lol), and headaches. The recipe was changed significantly when a businessman bought the rights to it & started the company & mass production, with lowered cocaine content; and it was finally removed a few years later. - Surprised you didn't mention New Coke. In 1985 Coke stopped making Coke & replaced it with "New Coke", which was basically the Diet Coke formula but using sugar instead; b/c they wanted to stop having to deal w/ Coca leaves & cocaine concerns. - Part of the reason the international Coke tastes so similar is because a lot of the flavor comes from the coca leaves (it's brewed like tea), which is why it has a subtle herbal earthy flavor. As opposed to Pepsi, which just tastes like sugar. Sugar vs HFCS Coke taste really similar, with a slight added flavor; Sugar vs HFCS Pepsi taste radically different, like not even the same drink. Same w/ RC Cola. - To show the difference between sugar & aspartame concentration; should've picked up J-Ello packets. The regular sugar jello mix fills the whole box & is the size of a hockey puck / baseball; for the sugar free it's like the size of a packet of coffee sweetener. okay i'm out of useless info
@@thecompanioncube4211 yea it's not meant to be shippable; it's designed to be easily make pallets (the big stacked cubes of products moved around by forklifts), and it works really well for that. Pepsi, on the other hand, sells theirs in 36-pack boxes, which are way easier for people to handle. I guess Coke does this b/c it's cheaper to manufacture.
@@lamelama22 The 35 packs come on pallets of 70. Ten layers with 7 packs a layer. Pepsi 36 packs come on pallets of 75. 5 layers with 15 packs a layer. So they're actually shipping less per pallet. I will say though that their packaging is much more durable than the flimsy cardboard that Pepsi uses.
So I'm not an expert on patent law, but from what I've read the reason why Coke keeps their recipe secret is because patent law requires the details to be made public and is only in effect for 20 years until it expires and allows anyone to use it. Case in point, drug companies will patent a drug and make tons of money off it, but after the patent expires the company will lose out to generic store brand varieties of the same drug. Whereas, if the recipe remains a trade secret, it can remain the property of Coca Cola forever. Also, I believe there was an incident in 2006 where a group of people working for Coke did steal the recipe and attempted to sell it to Pepsi, but Pepsi refused to take it and called the cops to arrest them.
Sorta right - when patent and copyright law was written; food and drink recipes were intentionally left out. You can't patent, copyright, or legally protect a recipe or list of food ingredients. The only protection is secrecy, and the little known legal aspect of 'trade secrets'.
@@GlenAndFriendsCooking Just kind of mind-boggling that it's legal to keep the recipe for something they expect their consumers to put in their bodies and can just be written off as a "trade secret".
Honestly the acting when he pretended to drink straight whiskey definitely convinced me. If he hadn't admitted it was actually iced tea, I woulda totally believed it. His wince looked just like mine when I actually do drink 😂
3 liters WERE available quite commonly in the US in the 80s when I was a kid. The problem was they went flat almost as quickly as you opened them. So unless you were having a family reunion, all it did was encourage people (specifically kids at home during the summer) to drink more coke. Most moms I knew stopped buying them outside of special occasions. By the 90s it just seemed more common for all my friends moms to have off brand soda cans in stock for us teenagers/college moochers to drink.
In Ireland, coke comes in 7 sizes: the smallest: half gram, 1 gram, 2 grams, an 8-ball (3.5 grams), a quarter (7 grams), half ounce (14 grams) and our largest size of coke is the full ounce (28 grams).
Fun fact: Iceland supermarkets actually tried to get an EU trademark for the name, and representatives of the country had to show up in court to fight it. The balls of that attempt always made me laugh
Actually, at least where I go in the UK, you can get cherry vanilla regular coke in a 330ml can. I get mine at a corner shop/convenience store where they also sell some American sweets/candy and drinks like calypso. It tastes brilliant.
Can we? I've seen Coke Zero cherry and Coke Zero vanilla in UK shops but the only time I've had cherry vanilla was in the Coke Freestyle machine at Five Guys (and briefly Nando's)
Calypso is the best lemonade at the gas station. Do you guys get Arizona teas? Or their cocktails? And if you do how much are they? We get em for 99cents
For those interested: the empty whiskey bottle Joe used was Bulleit Rye, and it does in fact mix very well with the smoky coke cocktail thing. The spice of the rye with added smoke and vanilla notes from the coke product and/or a hint of Disarrono (if you’re a recipe purist) is great but you can also add 2oz each of Bulleit and Smoky Coke and finish with soda water and still make a lovely cocktail which is what I did when I tried at home.
Conversely, anyone who tries to tarnish the good name of Jack and Coke with a Comfort and Cola deserves a stern talking to. Hopefully they swapped bottles on both, because SoCo isn't just "not a TN Whiskey"... it's not whiskey at all. It's a liqueur. Like Kahlua, or Cointreau.
So what exactly are you getting for your money if there's no sugar and no caffeine in the coke...? Brown water? And is it considerably cheaper than coke with sugar and caffeine?
@@MKR5210 Coke. It tastes no different. If you want caffeine, have an espresso or some Red Bull. What sort of lightweight gets a caffeine high after coke lol
Some creators on RU-vid (like Jolly) have recreated the original Coke recipe & it seems to taste pretty much identical to today's version. Quite interesting what coke flavor is actually composed of, it's pretty complex.
You can definitely get cherry vanilla here in the U.K. but mostly from corner stores. My local cinema also has a machine that pours cherry Vanilla Coke. Most Burger King’s here also do it. The Coke energy drinks are also here in some stores!
We also have the Coke Energy cans in the UK. There are a lot of things on the latest UK vs US Food Wars that aren't 100% accurate. Still love the show but little details!
Coke cans are now sold in 12 and 18 pack in CA. The 24 pack was discontinued when soda price increased in 2020. Still do not understand why they make 7 Oz cans except to meet school sale sugar limits of 100 calories per serving.
yeah that was actually good for a regular coke drinker. At least they didnt get rid of original coke. Thankfully BARR have released limited edition glass bottles of their full sugar Irn BRU sodas!
@@BlatentlyFakeName Probably because it cost more to make it... our country was already killing itself before Covid arrived. People should be banned from drinking products like Coke instead of quarantining with they get Covid. Obesity kills WAY more people over a long period of time. You can bet your ass too the numbers spiked when they asked people to stay home roughly 2 years ago.
@2:03, you know, when I was a kid in the 70s, people would have said the same thing about the 2L format, which did not exist in my country. The largest format was 750ml in a glass bottle.
Coca-Cola Energy is definitely sold in the UK. I used to work in Spar store and we have all Coke energy flavours shown in the video. Can't say they were popular however.
@@triplea5293 I have seen at lot of American food and drinks in ASDA too, but they are owned by Walmart. Whereas Sainsbury's just has a small shelf full in their bigger shops.
I cannot believe uk outdoes USA when it comes to bottled coke. That is hilarious. I was watching a show here in uk few years back where chefs re- created brand products and weirdest thing when they did coke was they put LAVENDER in the coke mix. I’d never have guessed cola included lavender.
If it does, that's news to me. Mainly because I drink a ridiculous amount of coke and haven't had an allergic reaction. I'm severely allergic to lavender. My guess is that the re-creators got the recipe wrong.
@@Taleri he added it in after it didn’t taste quite right. But I suppose it may be an extract used rather than the whole flower. You may be allergic to specific parts like pollen or specific chemicals and if those were removed before they add in an oil then people may not have a reaction is also possible? I just remember lavender oil or extract being added. I cannot stand most things with lavender in. Tasted like soap to me (same with rose) But due to the way he made it you couldn’t taste it.
@@Taleri I did a double check on Coca-Colas formula and it does indeed include lavender oil. Maybe the quantities are sooooooo low that it doesn’t effect you? I have a milk allergy(I’m lactose intolerant) but can withstand trace amounts of lactose it may be the same for you if the trace amounts of lavender are small enough. I checked out several sites and they all say lavender oil is included in Coca-Cola.
Im actually impressed by the fact that the US doesn’t have the 3L regular coke since here in LATAM (pretty sure some other parts of the world too) have it until today Edit: Yeah... maybe they didn't or couldn't search well
I am assuming that they didn’t go digging as deep As I have. Ignoring the new 13.2 oz “sipsized” bottle, there is a 16 oz can, a 12 oz tall can, a 24 oz bottle, a 1.5 liter bottle, a 16.9 oz can, a 16 oz bottle, a 16 oz stubby bottle (sold in packs of 6), a 3 litter bottle, which does exist, and many more.
Unfortunately there is a slight mistake when it comes to coca-cola energy in this video it can still be found in cherry, original and the diet versions in a lot of uk newsagents and possibly even co-ops.
Joe said they're phasing out Coke Energy WTF... that's literally the only Coke you can drink w/o feeling guilty about it!! The Zero Sugar in particular uses sucralose instead of aspartame, which tastes better. I LOVE that shit!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING COCA-COLA????
Only got as far as the first taste test, but another factor not, well, factored in was the flavour inducing container Plastic, metal, and glass vessels all impart different flavours - even with a liquid made from a common recipe _For it is known, Jon Snow_
I'd like to point out that in the UK the largest multipack of cans that I have seen is actually a 30 pack of 330ml cans. I just bought one over the weekend at my local Costco. It isn't an American 30 pack as they don't drink 330ml cans. They drink 12oz/355ml cans.
As a prior Coca-Cola merchandiser in the US. The only times I’ve come across a 35 can packaging is in bulk stores. Like Sams club and BJ’s warehouse. Which wasn’t limited to the original flavor. They had sprite, Diet Coke, Fanta etc. Even some brands that had contracts with Coca-Cola bottling company United had bulk packaging/variety packs. Like Monster, Powerade, body armor etc.
I saw an actual person in coca cola uniform putting loads of coke in the drinks fridge at Tesco. I just thought Tesco got them shipped and they stock them themselves
Actually in the United States there's also the 1 L bottle too. Additionally I have seen even smaller Coke products and a few others add some of the stores that I shop at so I think that's probably the standard range of what you find but I believe that there are other sizes of the product on some store shelves.
I am assuming that they didn’t go digging as deep As I have. Ignoring the new 13.2 oz “sipsized” bottle, there is a 16 oz can, a 12 oz tall can, a 24 oz bottle, a 1.5 liter bottle, a 16.9 oz can, a 16 oz bottle, a 16 oz stubby bottle (sold in packs of 6), a 3 litter bottle, which does exist, a 1l bottle, a 16 oz can and many more.
The struggle of trying to get that 35 pack killed me! Btw, Coca Cola and Pepsi are owned by the same parent company, the rivalry was only a marketing ploy. Although Southern Comfort is a bourbon, I suspect the recipe was calling more for Jim Beam or Jack Daniels, rather than the flavoured base of Southern Comfort.
@@MKRM27 Do some research, Vanguard group and BlackRock are partial owners of both brands. No other owners listed, so those two investment groups have the largest share blocks at each company. The rest is distributed across the open market.
With products that supposedly have this mysterious "secret recipe" thing that apparently only a few people know. I always wonder how they manage to sell a product for consumption that doesn't include a comprehensive list of ingredients. I didn't think that was at all legal for allergy and transparency reasons.
Alot of labels don't include full list of ingredients. Some times to hide underdosed ingredients but still be able to claim they have its a real problem in the fitness industry
Its not so much an issue of ingredients more so as it is amount and production process. Allergy related things like nuts and such they are forced to label. Also with a bit of research you can find FDA lists that may not show you all the exact ingredients, but you can find a list of all the stuff thats classified under things like "Natural flavors".
I was a weekend merchandiser for Pepsi back in 03 and I remember stocking the 3L bottles and building displays from the 24 pack "cubes." Also, diet weighs less than regular because aspartame isn't as dense as corn syrup. You can really feel the difference when pulling a pallet of it. People thought I was joking when I said that the diet is actually lighter.
We now have coca-cola that is fruity flavoured in the UK, it is called 'marshmallow' coke (after the dj, it's not marshmallow favoured). I think we also had 'Coke Life' at one point.
Years ago they had Coke Black which was coke and coffee in the glass bottles. I really liked them but they were hard to find and shortly discontinued. Coke and coffee is really good with Oreos.
Joe, the 3 liter of coke is available at my local carniceria. I get it whenever I pick up dinner there. The 3 liter isn't *that* hard to find in the US. And the 35 pack of coke is available at Costco.
There were 3 liter bottles available of most soda brands in the U.S. Coke disappeared in my area earliest, followed by Pepsi. Faygo hung on for several years beyond the big brands.
not entirely weird, me and my old man like mixing ginger beer and coke together which tastes great, albeit not being hot its pretty much the same thing
The best coke i ever tasted was in morocco, from what someone told me it contained like 50% more sugar than the stuff we get in the uk. I went to the US in 2014 and from what i remember it didnt taste that different
I believe that because in that region (Western Sahara) well we carry home 1kg sugar bags from a uk supermarket and it can last us a month perhaps? In that region I saw them carrying home a sack of sugar. I think it was 5 kg on the shoulder, but could have been more . They think nothing of slinging on their shoulder and walking up a few dunes in 50c + heat . No matter if there’s a sandstorm sugar is essential,it appears to be as essential as bread is to the Brits 😂 Sugar is cheap cheaper than it is here . Because there is poverty yet if you tell your neighbour you have no sugar they will buy you a sack ;) . They use most of it for drinking copious amounts of green tea &mint infusions with a masses of sugar . It tastes good I admit but it’s sooooooo sweet, too sweet for me
I’m looking at a 1.75L bottle of regular coke being sold in Tesco’s for £1.97. So the UK still has another size between the 1.5L and 2.25L Edit: seeing as I’ve already outed myself as a pedant, I’m also pointing out the US spellings on the UK coke ingredients. Doesn’t bother me but I noticed it…
In Kolkata, India (Calcutta for westerners), they have actually mastered the art of mixing cola and milk. It is the most refreshing thing ever and great to drink. And it's literally called Doodh-cola (translation, Milk-Cola).
There was a show in the U.S. ('70's/'80's) called Laverne and Shirley. Laverne's favorite drink was Milk and Pepsi...It was supposed to be funny because it sounded revolting, but maybe she was onto something...
@@kevoice She probably was. In my experience, Pepsi doesn't go well with Milk, neither does Coke. Ever heard of ThumsUp? It's an Indian made Cola which Coke acquired in the late 90s. More fizzy and better tasting, at least to us Indians. Try it out
I think the true difference between British coke and American coke is apparent after finishing a can or two. The American stuff is a lot more sickly and syrupy so you can't drink as much of it back-to-back without feeling queasy. Thailand has the same kind I believe.
No too many Americans actually drink coke, as most mechanics will se it to take the rust of old trucks to use for farming and it will take the rust off nail also.
There’s actually a size that you missed in this video: the 16 oz. can. Thing is, I’ve only seen it sold in gas station convenience stores, so I don’t blame you for missing it.
Tesco Extra in the UK sell Cocacola red (full coke) cans in a 48 pack. Also UK vending machines do a full red Coke can, in the slender / slim taller can 500ml and the 250ml stubby plastic bottle. Coke coffee available in the UK, I had one last month. Also you can buy in Tesco and Morrisons in the UK Caffine free red full fat in large bottle. Made by CC GB. Also the Coke Energy cans you can get in the UK in cherry, berry and orange, made by CC GB, as they going against Red Bull. As a side note, CC GB owns Costa Coffee, Monster Drinks and Inicents Drinks (being used as a rebranded Orange and Apple Minute Maid ). You also in the UK can order a name printed coke bottle label. It was stopped as lots of people ordered them with very rude names. So now every so often pre printed ones on bottles are available in the UK shops with basic names like mum dad granny grandad, and some basic male female names, plus seasonal names ones like Santa.
Same in Mexico. 3L became the standard after it's intro in the 90s. In Mexico they were still doing 2L retornables or returning bottles and getting your bottle deposit back -- or it'd be applicable to the new bottle you were buying. It cut down on waste and the bottles would get more uses.
I’d love to see a behind-the-scenes episode of Food Wars where it’s the planning and shopping phase for each episode. I imagine the reaction of the store clerks seeing whomever buying hundreds of dollars worth a single product would also be funny.
The Manga/Anime Dr Stone showed a way to make cola at home. Also my fave flavour is vanilla cola. Not the zero (it leaves a slightly unpleasant aftertaste) the regular full sugar version that you cam only get on certain websites now in the UK
Joe being like 'they all tasted the same!', OMG I highly doubt that. I'm gonna guess Mexican coke and British Coke taste most similar. Also, one must not forget FOUNTAIN COKE! Which, can taste different depending on their brix (like at McDonalds, movie theaters, etc) or FROZEN COKE, same thing.
In Brazil we have 3,3 L bottles. In general - 225 mL can, 350 mL can, 600mL bottle, 1 L botttle (New), 1,5L bottle, 2 L bottle, 2,5 L bottle, and 3,3 L
interesting. in Argentina we have 3L; 2,25L;1,5L; 591mL (all plastic); 8oz glass; 333mL can and 150 ml plastic or can. Also a small glass refillable that's 350ml only available in restaurants and a big refillable ones that are glass 1,5L and 2L plastic
Something you didn't mention is aspartame can also flair up asthma so I've got to be careful when I drink any sort of pop. The best way I miss it, is by not drinking pop :)
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Interesting video. However, in the part where you show the sugar is hard to see, you need some contrast because the white on white makes the sugar pretty much invisible. Thought you'd like to know for future videos.
Yes, back in the 80’s 3L bottles of coke were a thing. I used to buy them often! They in fact stopped making them because many bottles were going flat before they were used.
Put the Coke bottle in the freezer and get it out before it crystalizes. Pour water over the bottle, open, and serve. If you got it right, it'll freeze close to an icee but with carbonation.
I believe there are 35 packs at Costco ( a membership warehouse). I still think they had coke in the recipe but who knows. A few years back a Japanese market near me had Coca Cola clear ( which is not available here anymore, I should have bought some)
Sounds about right. Some years ago my parents brought a huge multi-pack of 500ml Sprite bottles for Christmas from CostCo (I wanna say it had 24). Never seen Coca-Cola clear, mind
@@chlcrk I remember one guy buying like 30 bottles of Coca Cola clear that day. I kinda remember when they first came out. Japan has a lot of different flavor coke products not as much as Kit Kats of course.
"We raised the tax in order to decrease the consumption of addictive sugary caffienated drinks" *rubs hands together menacingly* Public safety is our number one priority They did something similar in a country for alcohol after the pandemic started to decrease alcohol consumption for public safety reasons and sales were higher than ever regardless.
You missed a few UK sizes, e.g. you can get 1.75L in Sainsbury's and 2L in ASDA. I don't know why we have so many ~250ml variations of it. You can also get a pack of 30x 330ml cans from ocado, which is bigger than what this video claimed was our largest single pack of 24x 330ml. Whoever is researching these videos isn't doing a great job. Also the British coke in the American taste test was a plastic bottle which makes it taste awful. Cans or glass bottles only
We have a 1.75L bottle in the UK as well. Most large supermarkets carry them. (Iceland also sells 3L Coke Zero as well as the diet one, they used to sell Dr Pepper, Sprite and Fanta) Also we can get Coke Zero with no Caffeine in the UK as well as the diet variety.
