Question Mr. Cain Do you enjoy thinking over unanswerable questions, you know, mulling over things, along the lines of Einstein thought experiments ? I'm asking to figure out if posting 1 of my questions is worth the time.
I just want to be the cameraman who is always secretly at a distance filming the moon landings lol! The cameraman always gets to the moon first! 😂😂😂😂🤳🌕🚀
I think this is why people question the Apollo moon landings. The live feed implied the space craft may have been lost but then mission commander said "we're not de*d yet". Next they said they picked up a weak signal and they were trying to establish contact and would stay live as long as it takes. Then the broadcast abruptly switches to Bill Nelson and the broadcasters declaring complete success and everything is fine. Basically contradicting what the mission commander was saying before they abruptly cut the live stream. A post this morning saying everything is perfect but almost 24 hours later (as of this post) still no pictures. I don't question Apollo or the moon landing but after watching this stream yesterday I can understand why many do. This was one big "trust me bro".
No. There is no reason to dubt the moon landing, and it doesn't matter what was said or seen. They will craft a conspiracy theory around anything that is said.
It's just a problem with the public and media. They HAVE to get out ahead and say it was a success because if they say they don't know, then it will stay as a "don't know" forever, regardless of more information confirming and disproving success the next day. Every second that passed was another second a denier was going to go, "see they failed, we can never and have never gotten to the Moon." I can fully understand the position the presenters were in, along with all the engineers and tech leads.
I wish to go to the moon. Traveling through the Van Allen Radiation Belt in a tin foil spacecraft extends a person's life to the 80's as shown by the Apollo AstroNots.
Being born in 1958, I remember when Venus was just a very bright shiny disk where we had no real idea of it's surface or even cloud texture, before Arecibo took it's 1st radar images of the planet (I don't remember if we knew it was extremely hot yet). I remember when we didn't know Mars more resembled the Moon then Edgar Rice Burroughs' Mars (and how disappointed I was seeing all the Martin craters). I also remember Apollo 8 and how much closer the Moon felt to me once astronauts came so close to it and then listening on the car radio parked in a driveway on a summer afternoon as Apollo 11 landed on the surface not knowing how thick the dust was, then staying up well pass my bedtime to see Neil Armstrong take the first steps on the Moon (I admit, the picture was so grainy it took me several minutes to figure up what I was seeing). I remember the launch of Voyager I and II just as I was entering Cornell and my impatience with how long it would take them to arrive at Jupiter. When they arrived, a friend who worked for the professor processing the first Jupiter images said the professor snuck in a picture of a large marble he had into the mix. I never heard of any anomalous photos in the collection so that story was probably made up ;). I remember in 4th grade wondering about the complementary shapes of Africa and South America just before the theory of plate tectonics started to circulate. The first volcano images of Io. The braiding of some Saturn rings. The release of Star Wars. Thinking I couldn't be an astronomer because I hadn't built my own telescope by my 12th birthday. Being very disappointed by the return of Halley's comet in 1986. My grandfather was born in 1906 and 60 years later still remembered seeing it in 1910. I can only imagine how impressive it must have been in light pollution free night skies of rural Maine. The surprise at seeing the impact of the pieces of comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 hitting Jupiter (it had followed a series of overhyped astronomical events so those images were a very happy surprise). The introduction of the theory that a meteor wiped out the dinosaurs (I was VERY skeptical ;) but I have to say, none of all that matched the pace of discovery and technical advances we've seen since the launch of Hubble (actually since they fixed its imaging problem in 1993/4) and now JWST. Breath taking advances in photograph, medicine, and computing power are so very unbelievable. Just look at the arc of the life time of documentaries done by David Attenborough to get a sense of what's become possible and how far we've come. Our mental image of Pluto before and after New Horizons for example. We far too often fail to appreciate or get distracted from the wonder of the time we live in right now.
Yes, Mariner 4's Mars flyby was the end of science fiction space exploration and a hard landing for those of us captivated by fictional accounts of the Solar System.
I was born in 1956, and i concur with every word you wrote. I also think about the fact that my grandfather was born in 1898. He was around prior to the Wright brothers first flight, and also saw the moon landings. Technology is moving so fast!
Video maker says this was “ the most thrilling , action packed landings I’ve been watching in many years ....” . Damn sir , if you have footage of the landings please share it ....
Not sure, but I think that it would be perfectly legal there. But I think that it would be a limited number of people who would be interested in going to space just for taking drugs? 😅👌😎
Our neighbors all came over to watch the first moon landing on TV. I, being 6 years old, had the brilliant idea to go outside and see if I could spot the lander directly.
We had a day off primary school for the first Moon landing, I still remember the excitement I felt around 8 yrs old about this historic event and massive achievement. Even though there was a lot of political motivation behind the missions, it really felt like the project transcended these petty squabbles and represented an achievement on behalf of all mankind. It's good to see NASA and now others still achieving so much, it shows what we could all do if we chose to cooperate instead of compete and fight each other.
I'm trying to figure out your comment. The landing was Sunday afternoon July 20 1969 and the moon walk was that night, in the U.S., although it was already 21 July in Europe. Were you not in America, thinking of the launch or return, or thinking of another mission? For some reason I have no memory of the landing and have tried to remember why. Was our TV broken? Were we on vacation? Did I fall asleep? To this day I remember hearing when JFK died.
I was 12 when Apollo 11 landed, my Dad bought our 1st colour TV for the mission and we all camped out in our living room to watch it all. He afterwards went out and a bought a souvenir mug for me which I had for years. God willing I'll see the first Mars landing
Apollo 8. People who weren't around at the time don't realise that 8 was treated with the same awe as 11. They can't grasp just how stunning the "Earthrise" photograph was to the whole world. A far greater effect on the street than Sagan's Pale Blue Dot.
I have the same experience. With all the war, politics, societal problems, etc. It's nice to zoom out into space where those problems are so small and distant.
I think it's pretty clear that we're in a new Moon race that nobody (at least the public) saw coming. Apollo was getting a man on the Moon. Now, it's can you build a base on the Moon.
Yes, I remember watching the Apollo 11 landing with my father. Also pre and post Apollo 11 missions that were televised. He passed in 2018 and inspired my lifelong interests in astronomy and space exploration.
"Due to complications with Odysseus internal navigation system the decision was made to power down the EagleCam during landing and not deploy the device during Odysseus final descent." Now they have made a big mistake imo.
And they expect us to believe that man landed, ran around drove vehicles, and partied on the moon in 1969 . With 8 track tape technology. Then come back. Uhh ok right
I remember the moon landings quite well! was in my freshman year of High School (9th grade). Watching Neal Armstrong take the First step on the Moon was so exciting! Am still excited to see us still exploring!
I was 12 years old when the 1st moon landing took place. It was the most excitment I'd felt since the Beatles played the Ed Sullivan show in 1964. Neil Armstrong was such an incredible role model. I am still, all these years later, an avid followerer of the space program. Thanks to your fantastic work it is easier to follow today than ever before!
@@Michael-zq4mo I love you reality-deniers, I really do. You are the best entertainment available, now that trump is out of office. There are few things funnier than watching the way you reject all the evidence that shows how you're objectively wrong and how you promote wild claims as though they were evidence. Mate, no matter what anyone else tells you, don't ever change! The world needs a laugh and you reality-deniers are the funniest things out there!
@@FeverDreamRemix idiot. Have you not heard of external mounted cameras, I install and service external CCTV cameras as a job and , in fact, most places have externally mounted cameras catching everyone who enters, leaves, and even passes by the entrances. Do you think that they have someone standing outside with a camera filming this? Or do you think that electronic cameras only existed in the last few years? Even in the 1960s electronic tv cameras existed having been invented in the 1920s and used in the 1936 Berlin Olympic Games. And NASA being at the leading edge of technology with a very large budget at the time would have not only had the best available but commission the smallest, lightest version possible. This led to the creation of domestic video cam borders that came out in the 70s. They even, shock, horror were able to remotely operate cameras from earth, thus filming of the launch of Apollo 17’s lander from the Luna Rover just 3 years later. But then again, you seem to be so consumed in a fever dream you wouldn’t recognise reality and just construct your own to hide from whatever you refuse to cope with.
We were all sent home from school the day of the 1st moon landing, the headmaster said there would never again be an opportunity to see the first ever landing of man on the moon as it happened. We were lucky enough to have television making that possible.
I can only compare that to Elvis’s last performance or Evel Knievel’s live jumps. Let’s hope we never learn the landing was a hoax. That would be shattering for any age
huh? july 20 1969 was a sunday. you went to school on sundays? i remember it well because we were up in yosemite camping and a guy had a generator in the campground running to power his tv
@@gregh7457 I'm guessing it might have something to do with the fact that I'm on the side of the world ahead of the US 🙂, it was 6:17am on Monday the 21st here. I could say one of us got it wrong, but due to the marvels of geographic time we're both right. 🙂
BTW, I have a great deal of respect for the skill you have in remembering or knowing (as the case may be) that it was a Sunday. I was a young teen at the time living in a small country town with a lot distractions so I only remember the circumstances, not the details. I even had to look up the time to have it in context. It was quite the technical achievement to have something that was happening on the moon broadcast to nearly every corner (on a sphere? Sorry) of the globe so far back. Also, the nature of my response was a result of my flavour of humour, always seeing the lighter side of life.
I remember sitting in my Parents' living room, eating a big bowl of Mom's home-made spaghetti, and watching as Neil Armstrong took his first steps on the moon. I was mesmerized! Now, I just hope that I live long enough to see Man step on Mars.
Yeah, the older I get the bigger the grain of salt I have to take for the phrase, "In our lifetime". It's a little bitter sweet thinking I might miss out on what will be seen in the 10 or 20+ years but the important thing is to go and explore. I hope my kids and grandkids appreciate what's coming when they get to see it. I hope to I can still point it out to them too, of course ;)
@@gregallen485 Bittersweet, indeed. I lost my only child, and have no one to pass my Legacy to. I fully expected to be a Grampa by now. But I do have a Pep of a Pup!
@@otpyrcralphpierre1742 ugh. It never sounds adequate but I'm very sorry for your loss. My kid arrived late and seems in no more in a hurry to form a family than I was so we'll just have to save our space envy for humanity's next generation or three and be as careful as we can to not screw things up for them (and dogs) here on Earth.
Lolz my mum and dad sat me up in my cot to watch Apollo 11. I have no memory but they said "for the rest of your life you can tell people you saw that as it happened". 😂❤
I was 15 years old when the Apollo 11 Astronauts first landed on the moon. It's been a long time coming, but it's great to see them attempting it all over again. And it really is great to see people like you explaining all of the background information concerned with these incredible missions. Thanks so much and keep up your amazing work.
It's a small private company that built their own lander and successfully landed it, although it tipped over. It's not like they spent $100 billion on it.
@@donmoore7785plus, to add on to your comment, Apollo 11 only succeeded because Armstrong took control. If I recall correctly they were likely going to crash.
@@donmoore7785There were successful unmanned landings in the sixties as well though. I think one lander even brought back samples. The sheer amount of money invested in those days probably made all the difference.
Since you asked... I remember 1969 and my parents waking us all up in (what seemed like) the middle of the night, and telling me and my sisters that people had landed on the moon. I have nothing except brief black and white images in my brain. I was only 8 years old, but I could tell that it was pretty momentous. My parents said "You'll remember this your whole life," and what do you know-- that is one of the few existing memories of my childhood.
I do remember the early years of space exploration. I was just a first grade student at t university(more on that shortly...) but was fortunate enough to be fairly close to NASA's base in Texas, and like so many of us the Old Man was just as interested, so we went to see the first boosters that were being displayed. The Atlas rocket was Huge! But of course I was still quite young, and small. I've been avidly following the evolution of our efforts both great and tragic ever since. My family was living in College Station Texas at that time while my father was going to Texas A&M working on his masters in agronomy. That's where I started going to school. There is no. Board of Education in that town, just A&M. I need to replace my school tye, I lost t last one over 5 years ago. Keep up t good work.
I just watched a NASA briefing that suggested Odysseus might be on its side. Tipped over. Hasn't deployed the selfie stick yet. Plan is to do it later to get a good view of lander from the ground. I would not call this a complete failure. Maybe a 10% fail??
@@frasercainI mean, according to the directors, they said all their vital instrument are on the other side, so it should be fine. The fact that they have communication and will be able to see around the craft is vital information for the future.
We went to a friend's house to watch the 1st moon landing because they had one of those new fangled semi-round screen COLOR TV's and all we had at the time was Black & White. Very exciting
The Eagle cam was never deployed and isn't yet. It was disabled when they did the reboot. I had a bad feeling since they were not releasing images. Probably they were very busy and didn't think to say: "hey guys, we haven't yet launched the eagle cam" everything is "nominal". JTBC the module being sideways, seem to have nothing to do with the eagle cam not deploying YET.
54 years after an 11 hour live broadcast... and we have to wait till this weekend to "hopefully get a picture" (he literally said "a picture" in their press conference Friday (the day after landing). I guess despite all the amazing leaps and bounds advances in communication and image rendering and compression, we no longer can transmit live. Is this considered a "success"? I guess considering it was un(huMANned) it's a small step for humAinKind.
Hear me out here, maybe it is because the location they went to is in a much more difficult location to receive signal from. Y'all keep forgetting this fact. We were able to get a live feed from Apollo because we had a direct line of sight with them. We can't get a live feed from the South Pole because it is much more difficult to line up communications. Not to mention, the guy literally said that the team is all exhausted and they are giving them rest over the weekend. It is going to take time.
@@troybaxter heard. And I watch a lecture from months ago, they said the reason for the South Pole was because this design, resulting in a much longer orbit (rather elliptical) to land. South Pole for the specs. Still... could have been live streaming the entire trip. Solar.
@@AnotherScreenname they actually couldn't stream the entire trip because the lander would go behind the moon for brief periods of time (~27 minutes). They also brought up the point that they knowingly lost communication when the lander stopped and orientated itself to land vertically. At that point they wouldn't have had time to reestablish that connection until after it landed.
@@chistinelane I think it must be the Dunning Kruger Effect. I have acquaintances whom I know are unable to balance their checkbooks or even get themselves to work on time, yet they are snickering because the lander “fell over the moon”.
Yes i did watch the lunar landings. It was a great time of global unity, all of mankind realising what we are capable of. We all huddled around primative tv sets and radios and at night, looked up at the moon knowing we had visited.
Soooo.. we still don’t have any photos/video or confirmation that the lander is upright and functional… the only thing we have is a confirmation signal that it’s able to connect to earths instruments. It could be laying on its side or terribly damaged but still able to receive a signal. Is there an appropriate timeline before we can say it landed as intended or is a failure? I know nobody wants that, I certainly don’t. But I am just curious. If it’s a day? Two days? A week and we get no pictures or videos..?
There was a press conference earlier. It landed OK but they think a landing leg snagged on a rock and it tipped onto its side causing comms problems. The experiments should still be successful and hopefully images will be taken over the weekend from EagleCam.
@@tonywells6990it is worth noting that it snagging on a rock is not yet confirmed and should not be taken as the end all be all. As they said, it could have been caused by the slope itself or damage to the leg earlier. They didn't mention it, but it could have also been caused by the shifting of the surface where they hit one weaker spot in the soil causing a tilt.
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The little camera bot did not happen, it was not spat out seconds before landing due to the quick patch landing software update, they plan to spit the cam bot out when they get better coms with the lander, 👍
I used to live in Houston and got to visit NASA there. They had an example of the moon lander the astronauts used. And honest, the shell of the craft was like a combo of mylar and aluminum foil. Maybe just Aluminum foil. Literally just a few mm thick. The astronauts though kept their space suits on the entire time. I guess if you are not worried about creating an atmosphere to breath it doesn't take much at all to keep "space" out of your craft. Crazy. lol
Dude super sick landing, my buddy that works over at IM brought me over to the landing, what an amazing experience man! Such a huge moment! Can’t wait for my mission! Orion is going to be sick man!
I had a day off of school for the Moon landing in '69 (I'm in Australia so it was the Monday). but my father ran the local newspaper and it snowed in my hometown for the 2nd time in living memory - and it has not snowed there since - so my father took me and my sisters out to be photographed in the extremely disappointing snow. When I say "snow", well, it was more like "slush". Had you made a snowball of it and thrown it at someone, you'd probably have knocked them out, or maybe even killed them. Not good snow - but at least it wasn't yellow ;-) To this day, I wish I'd stayed home and watched the Moon landing instead
It seems that they cannot afford to affix a dang Gopro to the craft and record the entire event. Next time they may borrow mine. Bought it off Ebay for under $100
I guess we have different definitions of "successful". I would consider successful meaning A) they provide visual proof as the event is happening and B) it lands and stays upright.
Thank you for all you do. You are a master storyteller and can condense material into edible chunks like none other. I wish there was content like this all over RU-vid instead of the clickbait and monetary filler that abounds here.
For those of you who dont convert units well, 4 oz is 1/4 pound, 1 pound is 448 grams, so the mission returned just over 1/4 pound of asteroid material
It's apparently kind of reclining on the surface. Also, Eagle cam didn't get ejected yet, which is good. They hope to eject it soon and get some good shots of the crafts current situation.
We - humanity - are doing so many incredible, awesome things in space these days it ALMOST gives me hope for the future. I really would like to live out my old age in space. Once my bones really start creakin I'd like to go up there and not come back down.
3:53 Odysseus!? Really? The most shrewd and resourceful of all the Greek Kings? Son of Sisyfos? The guy that only wanted the girl, but instead ended up outside the walls of Troy, for 10 years? And was struggling for 10 more years to get home to his wife, surrounded by men wanting to marry her? That Odysseus?
Same🤣 But at least, when he came back from his epic detour, he got a lot of batshit crazy stories to tell😏 This rerouted experiment is basically an amuse-gueule😁
@@guyanaspice6730 - not really, only, Odysseus did not want to travel, fighting while away and was struggling to get home, plus, the son of a thief, rapist and a murderer
Eagle Eye was not deployed. Also, the laser range finder did not really fail. They just forgot to remove the "remove before flight" tag which prevented it from turning on by accident on the ground.
Looks like the further out we go, we just keep finding more and more stuff. Looks like there is so much extra stuff that there will never be enough people to take account of it. 🤔
How did Russia's Lunokhod manage to travel around the Moon for 321 days? "During its 322 Earth days of operations, Lunokhod 1 travelled 10,540 metres (6.55 miles) and returned more than 20,000 TV images and 206 high-resolution panoramas. In addition, it performed 25 lunar soil analyses with its RIFMA x-ray fluorescence spectrometer and used its penetrometer at 500 different locations. " Hmm... In 1971... and yet NO country has repeated anything like Lunokhod, despite vastly cheaper and much better camera, computer and radio technology... LOL.
I had the privilege of seeing 1987a go supernova. I was in my back yard shooting a bow when I saw the flash next to the sun that was almost straight above my target. I looked up and saw that star shining right near the sun. It was amazing. How could anything shine next to the sun? Well a supernova can.
I remember as a teenager, holding my breath when our astronauts landed on the moon. I can’t get excited with these moon landing fifty years later. It’s like watching a rerun or a remake of a classic. I think to differentiate from past glory, something new needs to be done, like a manned landing on Mars. Until then, it’s like an LP record jumping the grove repeating itself over and over. We landed on the moon with 8 bit microprocessors. That’s called super elegant engineering, doing more with less. 15:11 15:13
The media missed the hot mike moment when an engineer was explaining to someone that the spaceraft landed with lateral velocity and tumbled. What I can't figure out is why the nail biting landing like Falcon 9 landing? With such a low gravity I assumed you could set a leisurely pace down while higher up then come down compensating for gravity. For clarity, am a backyard botanist.
Yeah except when you arrive you're going about 17000 mph. You don't have enough fuel to burn to a solid stop then launch the lander. You go into an orbit at that speed, then launch the lander and the lander has to slow itself down at a 45 degree angle while trying to land in the right area at the same time.
So just before landing , a camera shoots out from a side of the craft and lands precisely , without damage , in a position that is capable of filming the whole landing operation. OK , whatever they say.
With all our technology in 2024 we struggle to put a lander on the moon the right way up yet in 1969 with the computing power of a household kettle we apparently put men there in a tin can lol.
Hi Fraser, I'm not sure if this question has been asked here, but considering the lunar regolith has been known to be found to be a good material to manufacture glass, would the silicates on the surface be capable of producing good glass for fibre-optic cables, and if so, would the 1/6 gravity environment on the moon contribute even more so to the quality of the fibre?
Hi Fraser, I;m wondering if it is actually better to have moon missions tip over? Imagine a horizontal freight starship, rather than a vertical one, it wouldn’t it be much more accessible to astronauts on the surface?