The first time I'd seen the F-35's at Nellis 4yrs ago, I thought it don't got the looks of a clean F-16, but hearing that 43Klbs thrust engine at full and the demonstration of it's maneuverability was very impressive.
I was lucky enough and blessed enough to have the chance of being there. I drove 4 hours from LA to las vegas specially for the F-22 but the entire show was spectacullar i got much more than i was expecting Thank you god And thank you for the entire nellis crew and or whoever made it possible
Jeremy Brown, I was there too on Sunday and lucky me I know one of the f-35 pilots (he’s my step dad) his name is Nate and the show was amazing! And I live in Vegas so I only had to drive for 30+ minutes
Watching this Military Aviation never gets old. RU-vid wasn't around when my father was still with us. He served 36 years in the Air Force and New York Air National Guard. Grew up with this, it made me enlist in the Army, as well as my two brothers. My sister followed in my father's footsteps and enlisted in the Air Force. Thanks for the continued videos.
Great to see the F-35A as part of the USAF demo. A-10s do the ground n pound and cover for the MH-60's. The Lightning's role is precise strike and air cover for the CASR below...Incredible demonstration this year!
Awesome video!!!!! What incredible action and it's great to see the F-35s involved also. They have come a long way in their development phase to become a front line fighter. Definitely the sound of freedom!!
Kurtis A Quite right, the critics don’t know what they’re talking about. The F-35A is more maneuverable than all the rest of the aircraft in this video.
@@MrCool-qi7cy Why would trump supporters be afraid of the F-35A do you realize the majority of the military are Republicans, and Trump supporters. Fuck, you are so fucking stupid.
@@madkabal thank you this guy gets it . Patriots and conservatives fly these aircraft bc they represent the best of our societies traditional values. Libs hate America and could give less of a damn how capable our armed forces fighters are .
P&W did a self-funded improvement program on F135 to increase thrust 6-10%, and increase fuel efficiency. The F-35 engine already has 28,000lbs of dry thrust, which is what the IPE has in the F-16 in full burner.
Jake D. The F-16A or even C has never been down at 20,000lbs loaded. Empty weight for the F-16A is 16,285 lbs, A2A load with no tanks at 25,281 lbs. F-16C/25 is 18,238 lbs empty, 26,462 loaded for A2A, 42,300lbs max TOGW. Those are A2A configurations, which it almost never does. F-16A-D combat loading has usually been: 2 x wing tanks on stations 4 & 6 2 x A2G ordnance on stations 3 & 7 2 x wingtip missiles on 1 & 9 Sometimes they will configure with AMRAAMs on stations 1 & 9, with AMRAAMs or Sidewinders on 2 & 8. The F-35A empty weight: 28,999 lbs Combat loaded weight: 49,441 lbs Internal fuel: 18,498 lbs The F-35A can carry the basic combat load of an F-16C internally, with more internal fuel than the F-16C's empty weight. F-16C internal fuel capacity is 7,000lbs, which is why it needs external tanks to be an effective multirole fighter. When the F-35A is combat configured with internal weapons, it is slick, and has more thrust than the F-16 ever will (F-35 has 28,000lb just in military power). F-16 pilots that have transitioned to the F-35A say that one of the first things they notice is how much power the F-35 has, and how they don't need to go into Afterburner at altitude when making a turn when wanting to maintain airspeed. This gives the F-35A way more loiter time, better kinematics (faster), which provides better launch speeds for missiles, reducing the time-to-target and increasing weapons No Escape Zones. By 4th Generation standards, the F-35A is far more lethal and survivable on kinematics alone because of the higher cruising speed and ability to maintain energy in a turn at altitude. The airshow performances have almost nothing to do with reality when looking at how supersonic-capable combat aircraft are employed. 4th Gen aircraft have been plagued with very limited supersonic performance due to drag, which degrades fuel efficiency and performance substantially. Even F-15C and F-15E pilots who transitioned to F-35A are saying they have more station time in the F-35. The F-16 was meant to be a Lightweight Day Fighter to defeat the MiG-21 and emerging MiG-23 of its era, over scenarios similar to Vietnam, but also to balance out the Soviet numerical superiority in Europe. The USAF never wanted it, but took it because it increased their budget and allowed them to maintain a lot of air wings. Instead of using it as a fighter, they have almost exclusively used it for ground attack, with limited A2A engagements in the no fly zones over Iraq, as well as in Bosnia.
^ lawyered! i know you touched on it but drag caused by any external hard points, mean any fighter will struggle to go above M1.4 loaded where as the f35 can achieve its top speed (2+) easily and still maneuver as any gen 4++ etc etc unloaded, carry more speed etc etc etc.
F-35 max speed is 1.6 last I checked. Several F-15C pilots have said they never could get the F-15A or F-15C past Mach 2.1 with the plane stripped of all external stores. F-15E with CFTs normally never goes beyond Mach 1.5. F-22 and F-35 can regularly fly above Mach 1 without afterburner, especially the F-22. F-35 with full internal combat load can do Mach 1.6, or 1066 knots. The Su-27 is slower than the F-15A/C, so it has comparable supersonic limits to the F-14 loaded with external stores. The F-35 has better kinematics than the Su-27, Su-30, MiG-29, or MiG-35 when those aircraft are combat-loaded with pylons and missiles, tanks, bombs, etc. F-35 can approach them undetected from oblique angles and different altitudes and get within the No Escape Zone of its missiles quickly, and fire before they even have radar or IRST contact. The missiles will not be actively homing on them, so no threat warning from RF emissions will happen. The missile will go terminal with less than a second of response time, before the Sukhoi or MiG pilot knows he's even being targeted.
vir21964 Fast jets can't do what the A-10 does . No way . It's like nothing else . Needs to be supported or upgraded / redesigned with current technologies . A complete badass junkyard dog . The government is smoking crack if they think the F-35 can replace it . Nope !
@@jaymcdowell9788 thing is is that the AF doesnt want they a10, and they never did. They just dont want to lose the CAS mission to the army. I qould genuinely be surprised if they made a successor that was designed only for the cas mission like the a10
Alexander Lee correct. That cannon is one of a kind. A few years ago I got to witness a few A10s in formation when in Florida. I fell even more in love with it!
Holy crap, those F-35A's really ripped up the sky! Awesome video, I was really excited for this vid cause I heard that the F-35's were ripping it it up and popping flares, I saw someone say that they popped flares on Instagram.
Dude are you dumb, both F-35A Lightning’s popped flares. Also don’t talk crap about the F-35 the F-35 is a better fighter for this generation. The F-15 will always be the best combat fighter ever made, but it’s Time is going to come to an end and the F-35 and F-22 will take the role of air superiority. So do not reply cause I’m not having an argument about the F-35 cause if you don’t think the F-35 is amazing then please leave me alone cause RIGHT NOW there is nothing bad about the F-35.
I was there, standing right next to Spencer actually, and the F35 is insane! By far the loudest plane at the show when in afterburner. Took half the distance than the F-15 to takeoff.
I was there working and do about 35 air shows a year and not very many of them do you see a f35, but this flight demo was pretty good and was an awesome show
I arrived right when this demo started waiting for what I've seen the same time every year. I see the F-16's and go alright here comes the F-15...Then an F-35 rips by me. What a day.
This is what I missed the most.... that f-35 makes a noise like no other plane i have ever heard!!! Have they let this thing loose yet or is it still limited?
No its not as of feb 2018 the completed all a's and b's. The a is now capable of 9.9g's and 100% thrust. The b because design is only 7.5g but also 100% open.
You know when you were a kid how mom's footsteps were an omen of authority. And when she speaks, it has the sound of death from above. The A10 is the same way; its engine is unique and the gun surely speaks with power.
Our military is awesome! Our men and women are so dedicated and volunteer to keep us safe and risk their lives for our freedom! We need to do the same to defend our freedoms as well! Home of the Brave and Free! United We Stand!
A-10 is one of the least survivable combat aircraft in our inventory. It's also the least responsive for time-on-station for Troops In Contact for emergency CAS. F-15E has been the best CAS asset for that, along with B-1B. F-15E has done the brunt work in CAS for OEF and OIF. I've personally called in F-16C and A-10A for CAS missions, and am familiar with their performance envelopes for CAS. Main advantage for the A-10 is that once on station, it can stay on station for a while since it doesn't weigh so much, is limited in how much ordnance it can carry compared to an F-15E or F-35, and doesn't use AB. F-35 with EOTS, DAS, and Synthetic Aperture AESA ground mapping modes is going to be a game-changer for CAS. A lot of people are really reluctant to highlight what the F-35 will bring to the CAS table because they either don't know, or haven't focused on it as much, but it has CAS capabilities that no previous combat aircraft has even dreamed of. The over-the-horizon SA capabilities of the F-35 are going to make our Combined Land Forces more survivable and lethal, especially working in conjunction with all of our surveillance assets.
I know the a10 is great plane and kicks arse when it comes to its mission but it really lacks th wow factor when shown alongside the fast jets, awsome vid tho mate, loved seeing the f35 tearin it up and the f15 and 16s unbelievable as usual, wish we got demos that good here!
Holy shit those F-35's were impressive, proves all the dumb haters wrong once and for all about it supposedly not being able to maneuver. Those F-35's were maneuverable as hell, best F-35 demo to date.
3F software development recently completed from what I have read. Not sure if it has been installed yet on the jets in operation. They have been on 3i software which is limited to the 7g range. The 3F software takes off remaining restrictions to allow for 9g maneuvers. I expect to see some really good air shows this summer on 3f software. I really thought the air show in paris 2017 finally demonstrated the power, maneuverability and capability this jet has and that was confirmed 3i software. The f-35 is no slouch.
Down at sea level means nothing really anyway. How a combat aircraft performs from 8,000 to 45,000ft is what you really want to see, and can never be shown for practical reasons at airshows. With thinner air, engines produce less thrust, and drag is still a problem for planes with external pylons. F-35 flying slick is comparable or better than many legacy aircraft up at altitude, with higher cruise speed, higher cornering speeds, plus the ability to cruise in the high transonic or low subsonic flight regimes. Even if it was detected by IRST systems, it enjoys superior kinematics to any 4th++ fighter out there, because none of the 4th Gen fighters are going to have those kinds of speeds, and will already be targets for the F-35 before they leave the airfield. F-35 never has to merge from frontal aspect if it doesn't want to, and can approach with timed intercept on off-axis merges, even from high oblique combinations of azimuth and altitude, since it has higher cruising speed. This allows high probability of intercept solutions for AIM-120D salvos after the F-35 has expended missiles from other platforms via data link. The first salvos of missiles might come from a Patriot battery and flight of F-15Cs used as bait, with AIM-120D already in the air from F-35s to the escape zone of the threat, so that you have two punches coordinated well in advance, with the first punch meant to make you react and fly into the second. Basically, if you don't have a 5th Generation fighter, it's best to stay on the ground and go hide somewhere because you're dead before you show up to the theater. This is why there is a global rush from all the industrialized nations with capacity and budget to purchase or develop 5th Gen combat aircraft.
F-35/APG-81/EOTS/DAS can do things F-22 even can't, especially in Air Dominance role. It can see all the threats and friendlies, coordinate all aircraft kinematics for solutions, and provide an optimized series of algorithms for air dominance that take into consideration all the performance envelopes of threat and friendly aircraft and weapons. That is huge. F-15s don't stand a chance against F-35, never sees it coming, doesn't have the speed to escape it combat-configured. F-22A is the first Gen 5 combat aircraft. When you look at what lessons they took from the F-22 and incorporated into the F-35, the F-35 is really a Gen 5+ system based on information gathering and processing alone, not to mention HMS/AIM-9X, which the F-22 is having to be upgraded with. F-22 was originally supposed to have IRST, but it was dropped from the performance requirements early on in the ATF program.
F-15 is dead in the air against anything that is truly 5th Generation. F-15C with AESA APG-63V3 is a lot more lethal and survivable, but still needs something 5th Gen to coordinate it if there are any 5th Gen threats in the air. It is well behind the F-35 even in 4th Gen parameters. If you take the F-15's traditional air superiority mission, for example, and pit a 4-ship C Model Eagle against a 4-ship Lightning II flight, it's going to be a bad day for Eagle drivers, and this is coming from senior F-15C mafia pilots who transitioned to F-35A. They never see what killed them, and are defensive from the start.
4th gen fighters are on the way out. Every country is now focused on stealth. I still believe the F-22 should come back online with f-35 upgrades. I know they want 6th gen, but I just don't think they know what they want yet. Lasers? That is not ready yet. I hate to go into design phase on a 6th gen until the technology incorporated into it are ready. The USS zumwalt was suppose to have rail guns. They just killed rail guns. Very expensive ship designed to lob projectiles 100 miles at a cheap price no longer going to happen.
Vetored thrust is only useful from 350knots and below for WVR. No modern fighter pilot wants to merge WVR with any adversary that is equipped with all-aspect, off-boresight IR AAMs and Helmet-Cued Sighting. Doesn't matter how maneuverable you are, the missiles have vectored thrust, lock after launch, and can sustain well over 45 Gs. F-15s biggest problem is RCS and kinematics limits with external stores, and the F-15 has been king of kinematics at altitude for decades. It can sustain a turn at cornering speed at altitude, which is why its wings are shaped the way they are. It was a very advanced design for its day, and still is, but can be seen quite easily from well beyond visual range. They have done things to reduce its RCS to bring that in some, but it's still shaped like a huge reflector.
The f35 produces this godly roar and thunder that crackles deep as hell.. Louder than a 16 and they were louder than these 15s.. That day. Id say the raptor was the loudest though.
it is not as loud as an f15 or f22 but more loud than a f16 id say its just under the super hornet and just as loud as the legacy f18.(I have heard them all perform many airshows) and went to nellis in 2016
This is when I went to Nellis Airforce Base last year. I've never seen so many Airforce jets in my life! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Tn4XINpvJ3E.html
