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I've been getting a lot of questions about C Channel over on Instagram so I thought I'd make a quick video answering the most asked ones and briefly go over how to install them.
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@charlieodom9107
@charlieodom9107 3 года назад
See...why can't other RU-vidrs do shit like this??? Concise, to the point, no unnecessary bullshit, just EXTREMELY useful information! Excellent video! All the points are covered, and not drawn out over a 30 min video explaining your entire family history or where C-channel was invented!!!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Honestly I barely have time to put out RU-vid videos let alone 30 minute ones haha Thanks for watching!
@GentlemanH
@GentlemanH 9 месяцев назад
Agreed ! Concise and to the point.
@joshvandermolen5987
@joshvandermolen5987 3 месяца назад
I just ordered a pair for the table I'm building. Thanks for the guidance!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 месяца назад
Glad I could help!
@danieledwards7178
@danieledwards7178 2 года назад
I actually seen an OLD Dinning table that used hand pounded wrought-iron on the TOP to do the Same purpose as the C-Chanel on the bottom .... and it looked Amazing !!!! It really had that Old World Feel .
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
That sounds so cool
@ilovemymumcookingadventure1938
@ilovemymumcookingadventure1938 2 года назад
This is helpful to watch techniques any substantial things to made for DIY .
@ThomasCustomWoodworks
@ThomasCustomWoodworks 3 года назад
Thank you! That is very helpful.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thanks man! I'm glad it helps!
@williamjones977
@williamjones977 3 года назад
hello Mike my name is Will, I've been a welder fabricator for the last 15 years and my brother jake and I have a small woodshop on the side, and when I say woodshop I mean his garage and my garage and a lot of running back and forth to eachothers houses lol. my barber jay was showing me some of your links and photos, you do beautiful work man, its great to have friends in the industry and my brother and I live local here in cameron park and would love to check out your shop sometime.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
That's awesome man! Hit me up on IG if you've got one.
@greatoakwoodworks4580
@greatoakwoodworks4580 3 года назад
AHHH now I C... sorry I had to
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
🤣 why are you like this?
@BruceAUlrich
@BruceAUlrich 3 года назад
Yep...had to
@greatoakwoodworks4580
@greatoakwoodworks4580 3 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds I learned it from watching you
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
LOL
@liammcleman8450
@liammcleman8450 22 часа назад
Hey Mike, thanks for the great video. I’m new in my woodworking journey, the legs that I am going for have a 80mm wide x 4mm thick plate that connect to the table and was wondering if I routed that into the table top would it have the same effect?
@joem2209
@joem2209 3 года назад
Very good explanation. Straight forward and to the point. Going to try this technique on next table build.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you, Joe! Appreciate it!
@TwoMooseDesign
@TwoMooseDesign 3 года назад
Great break down 🙌🏼
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thanks dude! Tried to answer as much as I could as fast as I could!
@TwoMooseDesign
@TwoMooseDesign 3 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds nailed it 👌🏼
@shaproski22
@shaproski22 2 года назад
How many c-channels (and what size channels) would you recommend for a 36" wide / 84" long / 1.75" thick walnut panel dinning table? And what is the recommended spacing between channels and the ends of the table? Thanks in advanced for the insight!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I'd do 24"-28" and probably just two.
@BruceAUlrich
@BruceAUlrich 3 года назад
Very informative! Thanks for sharing!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir!
@AceWoodCo
@AceWoodCo 3 года назад
Great information in the c channel Mike!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you sir! Appreciate you watching!
@delprice3007
@delprice3007 2 года назад
Thanks for posting. If just the center bolt was tightened and the adjacent bolts on either side were secured to allow lateral movement wouldn't that be better? The C channel would seem to be best to help minimize cupping...
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Yes that's what you want to do
@davebrew8224
@davebrew8224 2 месяца назад
Awesome explanation. Question: how deep do these need to go? I'm making a table that's only 3/4" thick; should I not use c-channels?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Месяц назад
3/4" thick is very thin for these but they make ones that I believe works in 1/2" material.
@alanbuilds7829
@alanbuilds7829 3 года назад
Lot of great info. Thanks!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
You're a lot of great info.
@DanielDunlap
@DanielDunlap 3 года назад
Super useful info. Thanks for sharing!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Engagement.
@DanielDunlap
@DanielDunlap 3 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds I’m sorry if I put off the wrong vibes. I’m already married.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Engaygement.
@sloaneswoodworking8674
@sloaneswoodworking8674 3 года назад
Good explanation of it man!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you sir! I'm interested to hear some counterpoints on C Channel because I've never really heard any. But I certainly will here 🤣
@eskbmxrdr1
@eskbmxrdr1 2 года назад
Have you ever tried aluminum c channel rather than steel? Aluminum C channel seems like it would be plenty rigid for most moderate sized live edge slabs. I would imagine a huge walnut slab (or similar) might move enough to stress the aluminum, but smaller slabs (like dining or coffee table sized) dont seem like they would be strong enough to flex aluminum c channel.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I have not.
@brettpreskitt9732
@brettpreskitt9732 Год назад
Maybe you answered this in the comments, but does every screw need to be overtightened or is it good to lightly hand tighten to allow for more movement. I would imagine that no matter how tight the bolts are. The wood will move them if it needs???
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Only tighten the middle bolt.
@ChristIsLord229
@ChristIsLord229 2 года назад
I have a slab that has a crack at the end, and it keeps cupping after i flatten it. I plan to try once more to flatten it, and immediately install this metal. Hopefully it works!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Best of luck!
@Rishi.Rao.
@Rishi.Rao. 2 года назад
Great informative video! thank you
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Thank you
@seanlincoln77
@seanlincoln77 3 года назад
Thanks for the info brother
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
You bet! Thanks for watching.
@grumpywoodchucker
@grumpywoodchucker 3 года назад
Good stuff!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you sir!
@CARL.593
@CARL.593 Год назад
Great advice man. Just one more question: how far from the edges should be placed ?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I like to make sure that if someone is sitting at the table and they feel under the table from the edge tbay their fingers don't touch the metal.
@CARL.593
@CARL.593 Год назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds thank you!
@rhyswilliams346
@rhyswilliams346 Год назад
Hi---Could you also use 3/15, or 1/4 flat bar? thanks
@bryanhoffer1572
@bryanhoffer1572 2 года назад
If I have a narrow table top slab and the 12in c channel maxes out the slab width, could I put it diagonally across the grain rather than perpendicular?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
You don't want to do that. Also, you shouldn't need it for a top that narrow.
@DsHardWoodCreations
@DsHardWoodCreations 3 года назад
Great advice.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@woodworkwhiskersash9731
@woodworkwhiskersash9731 3 года назад
Very informative mate, good video
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Thanks for checking it out man!
@gregcannon8043
@gregcannon8043 3 года назад
Great idea, what is your thought on putting a little longer one down the middle? We live here in NW Florida with a lot of humidity. Thank you
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Down the length of it?
@CH-mq1kj
@CH-mq1kj Год назад
Great video. Question, why are threaded inserts used rather just than using screws with a wide head?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Threaded inserts are bigger and have coarser threads. They grab better
@barnettbuilds227
@barnettbuilds227 2 года назад
Great video. How far from the parallel ends of the table do you generally place them? As in centered width wise across the table but length wise has far in from the ends or "head of the table".
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Typically I do around 18" from the ends.
@gralbr
@gralbr Год назад
Will two pieces of c channel be enough for a 6’-0” x 3’-2” table top.? And how far from the ends should I locate the c-channel?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I think you'll be fine with 2. Bring them in 12".
@hxku069
@hxku069 2 года назад
hi, what about the bend ends of the c channel is it's tips should touch the wood ? or the cutouts should be deeper ? thx
@alexsiomkin152
@alexsiomkin152 2 года назад
Hello. I am also interested in this question! Did you find the answer?
@hxku069
@hxku069 2 года назад
@@alexsiomkin152 No, unfortunately
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Deeper.
@roy_8693
@roy_8693 2 года назад
As for "where" to put them. Is there a preference or formula for where to locate them in relation to the sides or ends?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
The go across the width and I typically bring them in 18".
@anthonyparisi7522
@anthonyparisi7522 3 года назад
Do you apply finish to the areas where the c channel and legs will go?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
I do. I like the surfaces to get even exposure to elements.
@markdotori2701
@markdotori2701 5 месяцев назад
On a six foot long, three foot wide tabletop, how many c channels should I use?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 5 месяцев назад
I'd use 2.
@wolo4
@wolo4 Год назад
Great video. I am building an ash 2.25” thick slab 72 x 52 using 3 pieces. Theses slabs have a twist, cup and bow. What direction do I place the C channels. I have to fight cupping and bow. Thank you
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Place the c channel across the grain.
@jonahshupert1329
@jonahshupert1329 2 года назад
Hello, I am curious where you get your channel from? I found some on the jungle website but don't want to pay over $100 for a 32" c channel. I am making a corner desk out of pine (walnut was $975) and don't want it to warp or twist on me. Thank you for your help!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Go to bidwellwoodandiron.com use code COFFEY for 10% off.
@kbob4280
@kbob4280 Год назад
Love your project. I amBuilding an island top 4' x 12', one end overhangs by 12" . Will be made from 2x8's using pocket hole screws and glue to join the boards. Do I need a C-Channel in this instance? Would it be of any benefit?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Pocket hole joinery and construction lumber is honestly a recipe for disaster for a top. I would definitely get c channel but I'm not sure it would be enough to keep things from coming apart.
@conypard4441
@conypard4441 6 месяцев назад
Hi, great video and explanations. I have a bamboo slab (69x39 and 1,5" thick) installed 8 years ago on a kitchen island. It started to warp in the last 2-3 years. I tryied a few tricks, like a wet towel to return it flat. It works but it warps again and even worst then before. We do oil it but we forgot to oil the underside. Can I install the C channels and bring it back flat using the water towel and tighten everything up? Also, on a 1,5" thick, how deep should I go to or what size of a C channel should I use? Thanks a million
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 6 месяцев назад
Not guaranteed but worth trying.
@alexsiomkin152
@alexsiomkin152 2 года назад
Hello!! In your video, you describe making the C channel pocket 0.25" wider on the sides and 0.5" wider on the C channel. But I am interested in the following question. To what depth do you make transverse cuts for the ribs of the C channel? Are you making the incision deeper than the canal ribs and giving extra space? (as on the sides and along the edges of the C channel). I have also seen that some craftsmen and companies recommend making a cross cut depth of 2/3 of the thickness of the slab!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
The pocket is just slight deeper than the legs.
@hstrymkr4
@hstrymkr4 5 месяцев назад
“Or you can do that with hand tools if you hate yourself “😂
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 4 месяца назад
🤣
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 2 года назад
Excellent.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Many thanks!
@rosannamize6622
@rosannamize6622 Год назад
I'm making an outdoor live edge cedar sign that's 3.5" thick and width of 16" and 14" at the narrowest point at widest and 18 ft long. Do I need c channels, and how many should I use. Thanks for any advice!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I don't think so. That's pretty narrow. Should be fine.
@rosannamize6622
@rosannamize6622 Год назад
Thank you
@omrankhoja319
@omrankhoja319 3 года назад
Hey I have a table top I made last year and it has become cupped. Will installing this straighten it out or is this only helpful if installed before the wood has warped?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
I have never used it to straighten out wood but I imagine it will work.
@robboling6967
@robboling6967 Год назад
I built a 36” x 72” table top out of 6”x2”pecan boards joined together with dowels. The top has a slight cup (about 1/4” higher on both the edges than in the middle). Do you think installing C channel in three places will straighten the top closer to flat again?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I think it would help for sure.
@OrangeMoo
@OrangeMoo Год назад
Could i use C-channel to attach the underside of two desks (solid wood butcher block in a L formation)?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
You'd need to have the slot cut in the proper orientation but it would work.
@zayikgaming604
@zayikgaming604 Год назад
Awesome quality content. I bought a 98"L 25"W solid wood butcher block countertop for gaming desk setup. And I bought a 5ft C channel, but I don't have any tools to create pockets for them. Is it ok to not have pockets for the c channel? I bought a 5ft c channel to prevent the wood from sagging in the middle is that a good idea? Or would it of been better to buy multiple c channels and place them width wise throughout the table?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
C channel isn't really for use along the length of the top. It's for across the width. You can certainly surface mount it but it will just not be as clean. Thank you for watching!
@webfactorysolutions
@webfactorysolutions 2 года назад
How many channels are needed? Like just two for a top or one for each X amount of length?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
If it's a dining table length I say 3. Coffee table is good with 2.
@SD-eu7ht
@SD-eu7ht 2 года назад
How hard do you tighten the screws? Do you put superglue to stop them from coming loose?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Tighten them with an impact or Allen key. No super glue for me.
@firefighter9901
@firefighter9901 5 месяцев назад
I like to use my track saw to cut out for the legs and then my router to rout out everything else
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 5 месяцев назад
Nice
@randyseverson7902
@randyseverson7902 2 года назад
In the video you said you use the 1/4 inch leg c channel. The link didnt show that size? Is it available?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
They don't offer it anymore.
@joshuablanchard749
@joshuablanchard749 Год назад
How deep should the c channel go? My table top will be 1.25 inches thick.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
There are multiple size of c channel available. I like to set mine flush to the bottom.
@charlieodom9107
@charlieodom9107 3 года назад
Does anyone have any tips for drilling to prevent tearout of the wood at the top of the hole? Are there any special bits that have different flutes or something designed to drill smoother holes?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
I like to step up my bits. Start small and go up to the size you need. Also, you can start the hole with a forstner bit. Go in a little then continue with a traditional bit.
@charlieodom9107
@charlieodom9107 3 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds the forstner bit idea has crossed my mind, but stepping up bits is what I currently do to no avail. I always get splinters tear out away from the hole. I'm going to try to find some forstner bits in the right sizes.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Have you tried masking it off?
@tbc210
@tbc210 2 года назад
Sharp brad point drill bits can usually make clean entries without tear out. But if you don’t have any, you could also try starting the hole with your regular twist drill bit, except with the drill in reverse. First drill a pilot hole, then start drilling with your larger twist bit in reverse. If your bit is sharp you will often be able to get the hole started without tearing out the wood around the hole. After a second or two you can then stop and switch the drill to forward and complete your hole. This is not a perfect solution but it’s worked for me many times. Btw you can also do this when you need to countersink a hole for a screw and for whatever reason you don’t have your countersink. Pick out the right sized drill bit and then just drill the hole with the drill in reverse. You may have to bear down on the drill a little, but if the bit is sharp it’s usually not too difficult. This works fairly well, doesn’t tend to tear out the hole, and the drill bit doesn’t suddenly bite into the wood and drill your hole too deep.
@dwightl5863
@dwightl5863 Год назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds I have been been very successful using a forstner bit but run it backwards (counterclockwise) first with light downward force. This scores the circumference first. Then drill the hole normally.
@danc2234
@danc2234 3 года назад
I wouldn't have thought that just bolting a piece of channel iron, with screwed-in inserts, would be enough to keep it from twisting. I thought a piece that large would laugh at something like that. Now I know better. Do you do this with glued up panels as well, or just very wide boards? Oh, and why are inserts and bolts better than wood screws or sheet metal screws?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
I do this for panels and wide boards. Inserts are much wider and have more bite than screws.
@kasramaasumi8743
@kasramaasumi8743 2 года назад
Would you recommend if I put a c channel in a river table knowing the middle bolt has to be in epoxy?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
I've done it. I drilled out the hole oversized for the threaded insert into the epoxy then set it in place with epoxy.
@Scotty476
@Scotty476 3 года назад
If you were making a dining table that is ~40 inches wide with milled lumber and breadboard ends, would you still use C channel?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Realistically, it's probably not necessary on a breadboard end table. But if it was me I'd still do it. The extra $50-100 plus an hour of time is worth it IMO.
@KPNJ3470
@KPNJ3470 Год назад
What is a good source for c channels to purchase
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Check the link in the description!
@fuelishways
@fuelishways 3 года назад
Very informative. How many channels would you use on an 8ft table?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
I would use 3.
@vancehough93
@vancehough93 2 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds is there a formula for how many you install in a table ?
@BLee-qo9wj
@BLee-qo9wj 2 года назад
Question? Will c channel work in plywood or mdf??
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
It's probably too thin but also not needed unless you're using it as a stretcher.
@nickgrimstad
@nickgrimstad Год назад
I have a walnut table that’s 98” long that has a slight bow in the middle between the legs. Legs are 58” apart. Would C channel be effective to run length wise? all applications I see of c channel are applied in the width axis.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
You could have some custom made for running down the length. I've done that before.
@RedHairedTrev
@RedHairedTrev 11 месяцев назад
Can you use a circular saw to cut the channels instead of a router?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 11 месяцев назад
Sure. But you'd need to do a lot of clean up. A router would be much better.
@stephane184
@stephane184 Год назад
Do you need to recess the entire c channel? I’ve seen videos where only the legs are recessed into grooves.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
You don't need to. I just prefer the look.
@artoficial1445
@artoficial1445 2 года назад
Question: I’m told that a c channel in metal in combination with wood is a complete no no. The argument was that metal doesn’t give when the wood starts bending. Because of the stress on the wood it’s a guarantee for cracks. Instead the furniture maker suggested to use wood instead of metal on the bottom. This would mostly stop the table from bending yet still give it some slight chance to move so that there is no stress on the table which prevents it from bursting/cracking. Is there any truth to this.
@FastRedPonyCar
@FastRedPonyCar 2 года назад
No the long slots in the metal channel allows the mounting screws (which typically aren’t tightened super tight) to slide when the table flexes and moves. If you only had holes for the mounting bolts then there would be some damage as the wood would almost certainly be ripping the bolts out. The job of the channels is to not allow the wood to cup or bow.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Honestly I understand the logic but I have never heard of this happening.
@micahheitmann7952
@micahheitmann7952 3 года назад
Do C channels improve the tables maximum weight capacity or is it just for keeping it flat?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
They can definitely help with weight capacity as they will help distribute weight throughout.
@hrayrohanyan4498
@hrayrohanyan4498 2 года назад
Hello, thank you for video. i have made tabel top (oak) 40inch wide and 80 long, and thikness is 1.5 inch. Dray wood about 8%. Is it crucial to use C channels? And is there any other option to chose instaed of C channel and braedbord to keep tabel top stable. Thank tou in advance
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
C channel is not crucial. More of an insurance policy.
@yhwing
@yhwing 3 года назад
Does the C channel help to keep the wood flat, if the wood ist not complete dry, 30% moisture?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
No the wood will tear itself apart.
@williammartinez2156
@williammartinez2156 2 года назад
I have a table that's 4" x 8 1/2" how long should the c channel be?
@barnettbuilds227
@barnettbuilds227 2 года назад
You want it about 3-4" from each edge. So a 4 foot wide table is 48" and a 40" c channel would be good.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
36" wide is what I'd do.
@cmwand
@cmwand 3 года назад
Nice! How do you make the elongated slots in your channel?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
I don't haha I buy them like that from Bidwell Wood. Link is in the description. Really nice C Channel.
@MikeTanner3210
@MikeTanner3210 10 месяцев назад
@CoffeyCustomBuilds would using the "C" channel as the attachment for the base be ok as well ? I am working on a 60" x 120" Live edge conference table
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 10 месяцев назад
Yeah it's good
@happyhoildays2010
@happyhoildays2010 11 месяцев назад
I got a counter top table from ikea doing the desk hack trick will this work I have a 74x25
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 11 месяцев назад
I think so
@lawacko
@lawacko 2 года назад
Hello how long a c channel do you recommend for a table? I’m building a 29.5in depth x 59inch long table. Looking at getting 2strips of 17inch c channel for the table on the ends.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I'd go 18" but yeah that would work.
@SsuperMarl19
@SsuperMarl19 8 месяцев назад
I built a sofa table out of sistered 2x4s and it keeps twisting. I have soaked it in hot water with towels and put weights on it until it dried and it flattens out for a few days and then twists again. Would the c channel prevent that?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 8 месяцев назад
2x4's from the home building store?
@nicolekelly8449
@nicolekelly8449 2 года назад
Hi great video it was super helpful! I have a question hopefully you can help me. I bought a c channel that is 3/16” in thickness and the ends are 3/4” deep. I can’t seem to find a router bit that goes to that depth in 3/16” diameter. I’m not sure if they sell one online but I haven’t been able to find one. What would you suggest I could do?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Just do a 1/4" bit. You want some play in there.
@andrhamm
@andrhamm 3 года назад
I tend to overbuild everything and just used your code to save on my order of a couple c-channels and inserts for a 24" wide 80" long 1.5" thick black walnut panel table I'm planning to build with hairpin legs from Semi Exact. Are the channels necessary? I really have no idea (feedback appreciated) but this is my first hardwood project and will likely end up costing more than any of my previous projects so I'll overbuild to avoid disappointment. I found "The Sagulator" calculator in the Fine Woodworking archives and used it for determining if this long table will sag based on the thickness of the panel.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
They aren't necessary but I really like the added insurance policy. In some cases they can help a great deal.
@matttaylor4498
@matttaylor4498 3 года назад
Great information, I’ve used C channel once before on a table. I have a smaller table I want to build now but shouldn’t be over 22” so I should be good I think? I will use the threaded inserts for sure. What size drill bit do you use for yours?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
I think you will be good too! I used a 3/8" bit. Could have gone with a 7/16" though I think.
@charlieodom9107
@charlieodom9107 3 года назад
I use somewhere between an L and a P bit for my 1/4-20 threaded inserts. It will vary based on the moisture content of the wood, the janka hardness of the wood, and grain direction. I want mine to have as much holding power as possible, but not make the hole so small that it is impossible to screw in or splits the wood. Remember, you can ALWAYS drill a hole larger!
@bucketofsteam9260
@bucketofsteam9260 2 года назад
Do these channels need to be cross grain or does it not matter? Assuming the top and bottom of the piece is face grain.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
They need to be across the grain.
@lefort5206
@lefort5206 3 года назад
Where did you find the 1/4" Side C Channel? Seems the link provided only provide 1/2" and larger sides. Any helpful links is much appreciated.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Sorry for the very slow reply! It appears they don't have the 1/4" any more!
@lefort5206
@lefort5206 3 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds Np. Thx for the reply.
@surajp594
@surajp594 2 года назад
Can c channels be used for stair stringers
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I'm not sure.
@lespaulep
@lespaulep Год назад
Hey I made a round coffee table. Do you think c channel needed for this one It's 35" round , used mahogany boards to join
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I think mahogany is plenty stable. You'll be fine.
@k.mustafa5455
@k.mustafa5455 11 месяцев назад
Hey, great video! Quick question - I'm building a 12 ft x 40 inch table and think I'll likely get some C-channels installed. The table has two 20" wide slabs jointed together. The slabs were dried for several years at a local lumber yard and that table isn't ever going to move from the environment its going to (which happens to be the same location as the lumber yard). Do you still believe the C-channels to be necessary. My inclination is to just do em, but id like to save the cost and time if it's totally unnecessary. Thanks!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 11 месяцев назад
I think they can be a nice insurance policy. I would personally do it but if you think they are fully dried then you will be fine.
@leightonlkyle
@leightonlkyle 2 года назад
Hey there, I have a question. I’m making a 3.5’ x 7’ dining table from a single 3” slab of white oak and I’m definitely going to use C channel (probably 4 c channels)! Is it better if i build the table top so that the end grain looks like a ‘frown’ instead of a ‘smily face’ because I assume that the slab will want to warp/twist in the same direction as the end grain? Therefore, if/when it does warp it will be pushing down on the steel c channels instead of (if the board was built flipped over) pulling on the threaded inserts and bolts. It seems to me the scenario of pushing on the c channel would better take advantage of the steel. Any thoughts? Thanks!!
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
That's a solid question. I would say down between the two option. Try alternating them though. Sorry for the slow response.
@kevinberg8886
@kevinberg8886 2 года назад
Will c channel hold a slab flat?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
That's the point
@hullion
@hullion 2 года назад
Hi I dont get something. You crosscut with the router two rather deep channels in parallel, at a mere 3-4” from each other. Then you mount an insert into the top 1/2” or less. Once tension rises in the wood, doesnt it just rip a chunk out between the two channels considering wood splits in that dimension pretty easy? I mean its just a few inches long piece where the screw and insert applies all the pulling force, and the steel of course cant buckle.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I don't understand the question
@hullion
@hullion Год назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds There's only short fibers holding the screw, so if the pull is strong due to wood trying hard to cup, how come the chunk of wood doesn't split out with C channel and screw insert and all? a figure would help to explain, but yeah...
@cheneyconcepts
@cheneyconcepts 3 года назад
Ummm I don't have the OF 2200 EB-F-Plus, can I still complete this? Or, do is this something I should hire you for?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
This is only attainable with EXACTLY the tools I've shown. Any other brand of the same tool and it will actually explode and kill your family and somehow your friends.
@cheneyconcepts
@cheneyconcepts 3 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds Wow, Ron Burgundy, that escalated quickly...
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
It's the pleat... I was one my way to the pants store...
@xmarccox
@xmarccox 3 года назад
I am building a new desk using maple butcher block. never built a desk before and I want it to last. it's 1 & 3/4" thick, 8' x 3ft. would you recommend using c channels with butcher block?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
Will the top be using cabinets as a base?
@xmarccox
@xmarccox 2 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds there will be no cabinets. I am using 1” black iron pipes for the legs. It will be completely open underneath.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
I would get c channel in that situation if it was me.
@xmarccox
@xmarccox 2 года назад
@@CoffeyCustomBuilds thank you. For that size of desk would you recommend 2 or 3?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
I'd get 3 at 28" long.
@timchortie2860
@timchortie2860 2 года назад
Planning to build a computer desk in new house, was planning to use 1x6’s to make the top just over 36” wide by 5’ and an L that is same length…would you use c channel in this I’ve read both ways. The underside will be open except a small shelf for desktop on one end and maybe a cabinet under the other end to have some storage
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 2 года назад
It wouldn't hurt for sure. Id do it
@jbravoxl
@jbravoxl 2 года назад
What else can be done to reduce wood movement or it’s impact
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Proper drying. Sealing the whole piece in finish. That's about it really.
@hoeybr1
@hoeybr1 2 года назад
Can you use it if part of the table is epoxy?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Yes definitely.
@mroozendaal
@mroozendaal 2 года назад
Why is it actually needed to use inserts instead of just screwing it down.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
Because of how small the screws are and because the c channel will be moving as the wood moves, the screws will eventually come out.
@MrHghoang
@MrHghoang 3 года назад
Can C channels help me grow a beard as great as yours?
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 3 года назад
Only if you use my promo code.
@ffblegend
@ffblegend 6 месяцев назад
I want them but 120 for the ones I need..thats crazy price lol
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 6 месяцев назад
it all depends on value.
@rhyswilliams346
@rhyswilliams346 Год назад
Sorry, meant 3/16
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
It would just bend with the wood. You need a return leg.
@jaimslaw
@jaimslaw 2 года назад
You’ll want to stay away from the c channels sold at HD. They’re hot rolled steel. These channels need to be made from cold rolled steel. I installed the HD C channels to address a cupped table top…didn’t work at all. Hot rolled steel flexes and moreover does not spring back, unlike cold rolled steel channels. Bummer I can’t find these channels with 3/4” legs.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds Год назад
I'd never use theirs. I buy from Bidwell Wood and Iron exclusively.
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