Another Time Traveler here, commending you and your work. Somehow my system ate my old "DuJack" aggregate device (It's an Apogee Duet with a Mackie BlackJack). Your tutorial led me through the set-up even though I can't find the instructions in my manual or on Apple's site. I use some of the Duet's 75 dB of gain to get an SM7 (vocals) and an SM57 (nylon string Guitar) up to good strong levels without a lot of high frequency noise. I use the BlackJack to run an AKG C414 aimed for the vocals' high frequency content and an SM81 for the guitar's higher frequencies. It works really well in my space. It's good to get this back. Thank you!
Awesome. I used this method to use my Apollo Twin in conjunction with my old Digi 002 console. Not necessarily for the extra inputs but more so I could use the 002 console faders in my session. Minus a few glitches here and there, it Worked great. Thanks
Saved me from buying something with 4 inputs. Was able to set up a USB mic and then have a DI guitar and another mic through an Audiobox interface all at once! THANKS!!!
Thanks a bunch for this informative video! A few questions that I hope you can answer: 1) Do you need all drivers installed on all interfaces to create an aggregate device? 2) Which is better, creating a primary and secondary interface by connecting via ADAT or creating an aggregate device? 3) Can you use any onboard effects that you might have on one or all of your interfaces when they're connected via aggregate? How about when they're connected via ADAT? Thanks again for the video and anymore help you can give by answering my questions! :)
No worries. 1. I would assume so 2. I would assume ADAT is more stable. I've no evidence to back this up but, in my experience, I've had things go wrong with aggregate devices that haven't happened with ADAT ADAT cable devices are designed to be able to act as slaves to another world clock, with aggregate devices they might not be and it can cause some headaches 3. It would depend on the device. Here I'm using the onboard amp modelling on my Pod no problem. So yes? Beyond that, I can't say much. Hope that helps
Thanks... I was hoping I could do this especially sense my new keyboard can do usb/audio. Now I have 36 in 10 out up from 4in 2out. I needed to run my other keyboard into the 4 input interface at the same time. Thanks Again for the good vid!! :)
This is great stuff dude! Super super helpful. You should try to upload more! I want to hear your music. btw I see you're running either HS7s or HS8s and I'm thinking about investing in a pair. How do you like them?
Thank you man, that's really kind. I'd love to do more but I am a champion procrastinator. As for monitors. They're HS7s and I've had them for about 2 years. I like them but, honestly, I can't give out a ringing endorsement. Not because I don't like them, but because I'm woefully underqualified to comment. They're the only pair of monitors I own and I'm pretty sure the architect of my flat designed the place just to fuck with the acoustics. That said, I like them a lot: good build quality, nice sound and they look pretty cool so that's something? I tried a whole load of different monitors in the shop before I bought them and they were the best at the price point. I really liked the entry level Genelecs, but they were about double the cost. Bang for buck I'd say you can't go wrong.
For some reason, I can get the aggregate to work. Whichever source I have chosen first is the only one that comes through on Google Meet. If I record with Quicktime it does work.
So I just added an additional audio interface and am using mainstage for my DAW. That makes two total interfaces (a focusrite Scarlett 2i4 and a Presonus Audiobox). The Scarlett is the main interface (1-2 [FoH] 3-4 [my headphone mix] and the presonus is used for an additional headphone mix for my guitarist [5-6]. I've created an aggregate audio device just like this video shows. I have a problem though. I bus the click to output 5-6 at the concert level and that works fine, but after I save the session and then reopen it, the bus signal isn't quite recognized. Sometimes I'll see signal to that bussed channel strip and but no audio to the headphones and then sometimes I won't see any signal at all or hear audio. I've installed the most recent driver for the presonus. I've connected the presonus USB cable into both the main USB ports on my MacBook Pro 2015, and I've also connected that same USB cable to a multi USB hub just to check things. Each time it's the same result. I've rebooted and recreated multiple aggregate audio devices and the same issue. I've done a lot of trouble shooting and can't seem to figure out why this is happening. The work around is: every time I reopen that same concert I just have to rebus the click to my guitarists channel strip and then the audio comes through again. Seems like the presonus just needs to have a catalyst of a bus send each time to have mainstage recognize is properly? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@@mxtthxw7621 it's cool! I think about deleting it fairly regularly for that exact reason. But if it's still helping people I suppose it's worth the mild embarrassment!
Thank you for this tutorial. I just have one problem maybe you can help me with. I'm using a positive grid spark and m audio interface together. Everything works great until I open up my DAW (reaper) where I'm getting some string feedback/frequency. Is there a way I can fix this? My m audio interface is the cheaper one. Thank you
I have a question - so I have a Profire 26x26 and a Firestudio 26x26 and I'm running it into Reaper. I made the Aggregate device fine, the drivers are all installed, but when I put it into reaper, even if it is on the aggregate device, the inputs and outputs only read one of the two interfaces. Anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot this?
Hello, thanks for doing this vid. I recently had a friend over to record her singing and I realized, how unprepared I was. I was trying to set her up in my makeshift vocal booth, but I couldnt do any real sound checking because I only had one set of headphones set up. I really needed to hear her levels, and hear the music, and the mix , but I realized im a dumbass. lol. I have an imac, using logic pro x. I use the Bose t4s interface on my mac. Now if im using that device to monitor sounds, and vocals in the DAW. I was thinking, I could use a second interface in the vocal booth. Would having my focusrite 2i2 in the vocal booth work for the headphone adjustments? No need for the headphone amp? Im going to combine the 2 interfaces by setting up an aggregate device. Now I have 4 inputs, and 6 outs and I can use them all. Think this will work?
Yes it should work, you'll just need to route a headphone mix to the relevant outputs In order words, if your friend has her headphones plugged in to outputs 5-6, you'll need to create a send in Logic for all the elements you want her to hear
Thanks for the videoman! I hope you upload the reamp video soon. I do believe that I would need a reamp box to do this? I have the POD HD Bean, Presonus 1818VSL audio interface, and recording into Logic Pro X.
This is a great tutorial Adam! however, I need to ask you one thing, what if you connect 2 interfaces with different protocols (USB and Thunderbolt) and in terms of latency do I need to tweak the buffer settings? because I guess I will get the highest latency because of a bottleneck or not necessarily? thanks!
Thanks mate. I've not tried it with a thunderbolt interface but, in my experience, using both USB and FireWire is fine. However, I've never used them on the same source so latency induced phase issues haven't been a problem
Hi! Cool tipp, it works, but: How can I get a solution for different latencies with my two different interfaces? Is there a way to bring them on the same rate? I have a Roland Quad Capture and an Apogee Jam, which is faster than the Roland. A live trio recording is impossible with those differences in latency. What would you recommend?
I have a 2013 mbp retina. DO I have to use this aggregate feature to associate other usb peripheral devices(raid drive, backup SSD drive, Presonus Atom SQ, a Softtube Console 1, keyboard, mouse, Presonus V3 station) connected to a OWC thunderbolt 3 Pro Dock( due to lack of port connections on mbp) to communicate to the mbp's DAW???
Very useful video, thanks. I'm trying to sync two Digi 002s to have 16 outs....do you know if you technique would be useful. Digi -02 had 18 outs, inc Ada8000, I only wanna link two 002s NOT Ada8000. Thanks. Great Video.
hello boss i follow every step from the video but no luck....i just get to the part that you aggregate a device but in my case i dont see the blue and geen buttons where you assign the inputs you know ...i just dont have that option....
If you set me a timestamp of which part of the video you mean, I might be able to help I haven't tried doing this in El Capitan so that might be your problem?
No Don't take it down! Im having trouble hooking up a MOTU 896HD (8 Channels) with a MOTU 896mk3 (also 8 channels) to work with Logic on Mac, any ideas why they wont hook up? I want to use the 896MK3 as the master interface, and daisy chain the 896HD to it so inputs 1-8 in Logic are inputs 1 to 8 on the 896mk3 and inputs 9-16 in Logic are inputs 1-8 on the 896HD. Any clues please? It's really not very intuitive at all.
Hi there, were your Logic recording the audio live? I see no audio wave movement in the audio region when you were recording it with the aggregate device as the input source.
Thanks for the really helpful video. Would you happen to know a video showing how to do this on windows? I know u said u didn't know how but maybe you know someone else that does.
Adam Train Well thanks anyway, the video did help either way. If i figure it out, i'll be sure to get back to you so if others ask, you will have an answer
I aggregated my Focusrite Saffire Pro 14 with my Line6 KB37. But the line inputs from KB37 doesn't sound as good as Saffire pro. in fact the audio quality in line 6 sounds muffled and the input level which I am getting is -12db. Any thoughts on how I can improve this and get a quality level sound from Line 6. Thanks
Hello Adam , i have watched your amazing Vid right now , as i work with Mac Mini icore7 ,also i use Logic pro x and FF400 as an audio interface,my old interface was Motu 828 the old firewire one ( i loved it much) , and now i toke it out from my old box to try to use both interfaces , how can i connect both of firewire interfaces into one firewire input in my Mac mini ? there is 2 firewire inputs in both of the interfaces ! can i connect one to the other via this firewire inputs as a master and slave interface ? thank you
You should be able to do just that. You can daisy chain FireWire gear and use them as master and slave. Should be plenty of info online if you get stuck!
Im having a issue doing this with my set up. I've got a apollo twin, a saffire pro 24, and a macbook osx. I want to use the saffire for additional mic inputs (wanting to use 3 mics, but the twin only has 2), but I can't simply connect the saffire to my computer bc my mac doesn't have firewire. I also can't figure out how to connect the saffire to the apollo and use the apollo as the master interface( that is the only interface directly plugged into the labtop). If anyone can share some insight or knows the easiest way to do this with my set up PLEASE HELP
You can't use this method because the Saffire isn't plugged in to your computer Assuming the Saffire has an "optical out", you'll have to connect the Saffire to the Apollo using an optical cable (sometimes called ADAT) Some precision Googling/looking over the manuals of each should get you on the right track!
@@AdamTrain thanks for the response Adam, I appreciate it. the saffire has spdif out and the apollo has optical in which aparrently takes s/pdif out. Bc of the different connectors tho, I believe I'd need a adaptor box..quite a pain
Hey Adam, I have created an aggregate device using vst lord and sound flower however when I go to add another instrument it just adds the same layer so its the same thing, I think this is called multi timbal ?? anyways, How can I record say 10 different pieces using the same midi instrument that has different sounds inside the syth? thanks V
great video bro i am trying to use my digi 003 for mixing and i want to use my 2i2 interface for audio recording in pro tools can't u help me out plz ?
I'm trying to connect two 8 mic input focusrite interfaces together for 16 mic inputs between them and I'm having trouble. Do you know if I need to use two Adat cables possibly? Sweetwater told me one but haven't had any luck yet.
This technique is something else entirely. If you're using ADAT you need to ignore everything in this video. You only need one ADAT cable though. There should be instructions on Focusrite's website. If I remember correctly, you have to set it up in Saffire control?
In a setup with an Apollo Twin, Apollo Quad, and Presonus StudioLive, If I wanted inputs to be ordered 1,2 (Twin), 3-6 (Quad) and (and 7-30 StudioLive), and outputs all 1-24 (StudioLive), could this be possible thru Audio MIDI setup configurations?
Evan Fitz Yeah man, should be. You just drag them around in the Audio MIDI setup to get the order you want. From there I guess it depends on your DAW. In your case, because you want different orders for the ins and outs, you might have to setup an aggregate device for the inputs with one order. I'd set that as my input device in "system preferences > audio" Then I'd just select the Soundgrid as my output device in the output bit of "system preferences > audio"
Great Vid. Any idea how to combine Digi (avid) 003 with Focusrite Liquid 56? The focusrite shows up in the list for agregate device but the 003 does not. Any ideas? Thanks
Would you be able to help me figure out how i would use this method using Soundflower on a Mac, allowing me to live broadcast an Ableton DAW session onto something such as Twitch for example?
does this also work if in one audio interface is already an adat connection? i am using an ua apollo 8 so far with a focusrite octopre as adat and an apollo twin. thinking of adding a motu with aggregate device - will this work? cheers
Not sure, buddy. I have had some syncing errors working this way (thankfully very rare) but haven’t tried with ADAT expansion as well. I’d say make sure you’re using your master as your clock source but I haven’t tried. If you do end up doing it, let me know how it goes!
4:34, thats exactly what I am having a problem with, Axe Fx Standard firmware 11. doesn't show up no matter what you do and it is bloody impossible to find anything that isn't talking about axe edit or fucking 2 or every other damn thing, ill have a better a chance with the manuals
Andréas Sakasan Short answer: depends on what you want to send out. You could accomplish it via internal routing in your DAW. Just duplicate your 2buss and send it to the respective speaker outputs. But if you want to do it for things outside of your DAW, you'd probably need some extra software. I don't know of anything off the top of my head personally. But best of luck getting it sorted!
Sometimes when I'm linking 3 or 4 together. It's not a case of latency though, it makes some weird and unsuable sounds. Hasn't happened in a long time though so it could have been anything Generally it's pretty faultless as a technique, just make sure to monitor first
+Adam Train (OxidationShed) Thanks. It's like having to cocks to tic at the same time, eventually will get out of sync and cause sampling to drift and only bits and pieces get sampled. I have only seen a handful of audio interfaces that allow syncing from another 'master' source. But good to know. Thanks.
