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USGI M1911A1 (CMP Field Grade) | What Are You Getting Yourself Into? 

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Interested in USGI 1911s or CMP 1911s specifically? Here we examine a 1944 Colt/Remington Rand m1911a1 fresh from the CMP. Enjoy!

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@anthonyarena6580
@anthonyarena6580 2 года назад
That is one fine looking WWII 1911A1 pistol. Great description in your video. Very thorough and appreciate your knowledge of WWII era 1911's. Thank you for this fine posting.
@omeletteco.50
@omeletteco.50 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@TrashPanda5150
@TrashPanda5150 2 года назад
Yeah, if you are just looking for a "good gun" for the money you can get a technically superior modern pistol for less money. These are all about future investment, nostalgia, owning a piece of history kind of stuff. If you don't care about any of that, an old GI 1911 isn't for you! Good luck with your channel! I subbed. Looking forward to more content :)
@darrylnelson6264
@darrylnelson6264 2 года назад
Well, I finally got a call from a sweet sounding southern lady from Alabama. They only had rack grades, so I did what reasonably minded folk would do. It is still at my FFL since Illinois has a three-day waiting period for handguns. Its a Colt frame and slide and from what I could see it's in good shape with minor pitting. I'm happy.
@fordguy3032
@fordguy3032 2 года назад
welcome to the club! I received my Service grade CMP 1945 Remington Rand (slide and frame) in May 2019. Best lottery I ever entered!
@lavida57
@lavida57 2 года назад
Wow! Very excited watching this. I had a number of 31,XXX and just keep waiting and hoping they still have inventory when my number comes up. I would consider it a great honor to be the caregiver of one of these firearm. History, American history at its finest. Thank you for sharing
@BobSmith-et1sg
@BobSmith-et1sg 2 года назад
Keep the faith...I got my call today (2/25/2022) and my RNG was 29502. Rack is all that is currently available.
@Dan67518
@Dan67518 Год назад
@@BobSmith-et1sg hey sir, how was your rack grade?
@petermonck5448
@petermonck5448 2 года назад
Excellent presentation 👏 Thanks. 👍😎
@fishsauce1
@fishsauce1 2 года назад
I always wanted an original US M1911A1 , but decided to buy a modern copy to use as a range gun for regular use. The WW2 guns are nice for collecting .
@Nattleby
@Nattleby 2 года назад
I have an early pattern m1 carbine that slogged through the pacific then Korea. I shoot her seldomly, but she still shoots to point of aim.
@enricomandragona163
@enricomandragona163 Год назад
It's not a total original so it's ok to have a little fun with it
@kevinhendley8524
@kevinhendley8524 8 месяцев назад
I just purchased a Springfield mil spec that will be used at the range and home defense, but also ordered a CMP 1911. I think the new Vs Old is super cool to have in a collection. The historical value is worth it to me
@nouradel6763
@nouradel6763 2 года назад
Awesome piece
@bdogjr7779
@bdogjr7779 2 года назад
Awesome《☆》Thanks for sharing this wonderful peice of Military history👍Your knowledge is greater than many other collectors on RU-vid. I wouldn't mind having a 1911 in similar functional condition. I'm Happy with my Rock Island 1911A1 Commander. It's got enough wear on the parkerized finish & very few markings other than the serial number. I installed burlwood colored Crimson Trace lasergrips on it & painted the front sight florescent green. It's a lot of fun🖖🤓🏈
@dlbracer56
@dlbracer56 Год назад
Just received (11/17/22) my CMP "Service " grade.. GRATEFUL for CMP and the work they do. My snit is his "field grade" is more "genuine " than mine. The slide on mine is tagged "GI Rep" on a Remington Rand frame serial number in late 1943 production, a late model magazine. There is no way to determine when the slide was joined to the frame or who manufactured it. This questions the authenticity and any subsequent value. SO, it now becomes a "shooter" not an "investment " relic in the gun locker. I'll STILL enjoy having it. CHANGE 1. I found out that NO NAME reproduction slide is a genuine Colt made National Match Hard slide with a chrome lined barrel (.45 AUTO '85). Certainly changed my opinion of my pistol and THANKS CMP.
@prodigy1605
@prodigy1605 Год назад
You can’t sell them. None of these are an investment. They are heirlooms.
@dlbracer56
@dlbracer56 11 месяцев назад
It has a permanent home.obtw. 7/7/23. my lady just got her 1943 Colt/Remington Rand service grade, exceptionally nice. She is the widow of a WWII/POW. Active in the American Legion Auxiliary and a trained member of a shooting range. It has also found a forever home.
@gregoneill1495
@gregoneill1495 2 года назад
Nice example of a field grade. I received my service grade in early May. In regards to your slide stop and thumb safety, l believe the spring inside the plunger tube is worn out or broken.
@kowalski363
@kowalski363 2 года назад
Great video
@vincentp9038
@vincentp9038 2 года назад
If you are curious about some of the history of your example you should fill out a FOIA request on it. I did one for my CMP 1911 and found out it spent the 1980's with the Utah National Guard.
@docholliday3273
@docholliday3273 2 года назад
GREAT idea!!!!
@larryhagen3788
@larryhagen3788 2 года назад
How did you go about submitting your FOIA request?
@pb68slab18
@pb68slab18 Год назад
Looks just like the ones I was issued and carried in the late 70s thru the mid 80s.
@UpinsmokeSmokey
@UpinsmokeSmokey 2 года назад
Nice collectors piece I would love to own one some day 🇺🇸🇺🇸
@johnwaddell4107
@johnwaddell4107 Год назад
I agree with you these guns are not daily shooters but collectibles. I wish I could get more. Nice piece with history. I have an RGN for round 4. Hope I get a good choice.
@murffyslaw001
@murffyslaw001 2 года назад
Not new, but she's a beauty! The stories that pistol could tell.....
@tingley428
@tingley428 2 года назад
For the safety issue and the slide stop I would suggest a new spring (& detents?) for the plunger tube to start. There hopefully is still plenty of videos on here how to replace them if not I'm sure you could find them elsewhere. As for parts I've heard many times Wolf makes a good spring kit (if you choose to replace all, I would) and I'm sure Wilson Combat has them as well. If your slide stop and safety are in fact so worn they are the cause of the issues you can order standard mil spec replacements from a lot of vendors (Brownels). In your case if you go that route I'd order the parts parkerized (or blued if not an option) and lightly rub them with super fine emery cloth til they appear to match the finish of your 1911. Good luck and if you do a full spring kit and/or the safety/slide stop swap definitely post a video running it after tune up!
@omeletteco.50
@omeletteco.50 2 года назад
Thanks! Will definitely get shooting footage next chance I get
@tingley428
@tingley428 2 года назад
@@omeletteco.50 btw I'm living vicariously through you on this since I'm stuck behind enemy lines in Canada so I can't get anything from CMP
@elifoust7664
@elifoust7664 2 года назад
Great history
@denpobedy7881
@denpobedy7881 2 года назад
In packed one on the east German border in late 89s. I am fine with mine.
@omeletteco.50
@omeletteco.50 2 года назад
Cool!
@tommierush2539
@tommierush2539 Год назад
My RGN 10838 and received a fie;d grade Ithaca 1944 slide and frame. Very happy!
@thespankdmonkey
@thespankdmonkey 2 года назад
Would love to see some range time with this old bird!
@omeletteco.50
@omeletteco.50 2 года назад
Working on it!
@jameslockhart3102
@jameslockhart3102 Год назад
Shes a legend bub
@mitchcornacchia968
@mitchcornacchia968 Год назад
Bought an original colt 1943 pistol with much of the original finish and all parts, tight, tight, tight for fifteen hundred. That pistol is very worn, little if any finish and like you said, a mix master. I like it, but then again i like ALL 1911's!
@xpejofficial8110
@xpejofficial8110 7 месяцев назад
what a beauty....a 1911
@tyrant2all892
@tyrant2all892 2 года назад
I just received my service grade from CMP, I got the opposite of you. Mine has a Colt frame and a Remington Rand slide. It is the 1944 type 3 Remington Rand slide and is in excellent condition. The Parkerizing is exactly the same. Let me know if you are interested in trading slides? we can both have matching frame slides:) I can send you some pics if you are interested.
@mario3804
@mario3804 11 месяцев назад
Great video Sir, I’m purchasing it because I want something coming out of the Army, I retired from the Army and want something a soldier once carried. I would probably change a lot of the internals just to be safe. Take care and appreciate your videos.
@ftdefiance1
@ftdefiance1 2 года назад
When I served in the mid 1980's almost every weapon in our arms room's (2nd ID and 7th Id) were Remington Rand's thanks for posting. The point of a CMP pistol is history want a shooter? Go buy a modern 1911
@KH2837
@KH2837 2 года назад
Nice! Still waiting for my # to come up!
@terrykrall
@terrykrall 2 года назад
I am in the high 27,000s and hope to get a call in early December. I’m not a gunowner, getting one as an investment and it’s my right… still… don’t hold your breath. I will fire it very little if at all. A GI not re-arsenaled 1911 is in the 3-5 grand range, so this looks attractive. i want some patina, I’m avoiding service, trying for field grade.
@darrylnelson6264
@darrylnelson6264 2 года назад
My number was mid-25XXX and I was called Tuesday 26 Oct 2021. Good luck. I curious as to the grade(s) you'd be offered. They only had rack grades when my number came up.
@mannyflores6596
@mannyflores6596 2 года назад
I got one also with the same date of repurbished(ANAD 9 75) my frame is colt 1911a1 and my slide is remington rand ..
@AMXSShirt
@AMXSShirt 2 года назад
Congrats. Mine is ANAD 2 76 RR 2mil 1945
@lj.7311
@lj.7311 11 месяцев назад
I just sent my forms in. I don’t care what grade I get, I’m shooting it.
@texassportsman5880
@texassportsman5880 2 года назад
The CMP advertised their 1911s as having some commercial parts on all their grades with the exception of the auction grade. When I ordered my $1050 1911 I was very excited. When it arrived I got very frustrated. I disassembled it and found that all the parts with the exception of the frame were replacement parts. Then they updated their website to say that the 1911s may contain commercial parts when they should state the 1911 may contain all commercial parts would have been transparent. My 1911 was all commercial parts. I get that the Army's armorers will replace parts as needed with what they have. That I don't have an issue with that but when those 1911s are transferred to the CMP and when they disassemble each one and find out that a substantial number has commercial parts they should be honest. The only thing WWII about mine was the frame manufactured in early 1945. Everything else is commercial and miss matched. Mine should have had the serrated hammer, slide stop, thumb safety and MSH but they were mixed of checkered and serrated. So I sold it at an auction for $1800. At least yours has a matching frame and slide.
@Justhings332
@Justhings332 Год назад
I never knew that Justin Tradeau owned a 1911
@ffwest12
@ffwest12 Год назад
Just a note. The feed ramps on these pistols willl not feed hollow points. I have one Remington Rand Slide and Ithica Frame. A good strait shooter and runs well. Great buy.
@Portrayalpress
@Portrayalpress Год назад
Mr Browning designed it to run .45 ball and that it does well.
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 2 года назад
Are we still able to sign up for the opportunity to purchase or is it over (today is 11-20-2021) from CMP?
@spargett
@spargett Год назад
How common is this lighter parkerization on these CMP 1911's? Was it a certain branch or period that were issued these? Seems like most are the dark finish.
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. Can you tell from the ser # when your 1911 was made?
@omeletteco.50
@omeletteco.50 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! The serial# dates the frame at least as mid-1944 Remington Rand production
@ricardoantonio5085
@ricardoantonio5085 2 года назад
I got one of the first CMP guns selected through the lottery. It came to me in an incredibly thin, cheap, plastic black case. It was nothing like the the nice case in this video. Very disappointed about that. However, mine is an Ithica Gun Company pistol. So I'm over it.
@kagyu1
@kagyu1 2 года назад
Foam is a terrible material for gun storage unless you like rust. I would prefer they send it in a plain cardboard box and deduct the case cost from the price.
@larryrobinson6914
@larryrobinson6914 2 года назад
Next to peacemaker greatest handgun in universe
@bryantross6125
@bryantross6125 2 года назад
Where do i go to get ahold of one of these?
@mattharmon3838
@mattharmon3838 2 года назад
I have a Remington rand slide would consider a trade I would like to trade slides
@marksmalheer9626
@marksmalheer9626 9 месяцев назад
Those issues are the same ones that I had on my modern series 80 Colt competition 1911. Go figure. Interested to see what the CMP will send my way when my number gets called. Poorly fit safety and barrel link.
@deadhorse1391
@deadhorse1391 2 года назад
I got a near mint 1911A1 Remington from the widow of the old Vet that sent it home. From 1944 and still with its Boyt holster rig. Only shot it a few times but I do enjoy looking at it. Bet I paid lots less then they did for this one too. 😃
@rencleavus5213
@rencleavus5213 2 года назад
You paid less because you took advantage of a widow who didn't know she had a $2000 pistol.
@deadhorse1391
@deadhorse1391 2 года назад
@@rencleavus5213 she told me what she wanted and I paid her. She was very happy as was I I think when both the seller and the buyer are happy that’s a good deal all around. How did I take advantage of anyone since I paid the price what they told me they wanted ? I buy lots of stuff out of estates, often sellers ask WAY more then what they are worth. If I pay $200 for that rusty ground up MKII knife am I’m being taken advantage by the seller or am I’m just being a slowhead?
@rencleavus5213
@rencleavus5213 2 года назад
@@deadhorse1391 Keep telling yourself that.
@deadhorse1391
@deadhorse1391 2 года назад
@@rencleavus5213 I do believe you are just jealous LOL
@rencleavus5213
@rencleavus5213 2 года назад
@@deadhorse1391 Keep telling yourself THAT LOL
@alfredoprado2032
@alfredoprado2032 2 года назад
Can i possibly order one? From the philippines
@theimpaler2317
@theimpaler2317 Год назад
How long was it from whenever they stopped taking orders until you received your email with the rgn?
@davidfelix5857
@davidfelix5857 Год назад
Mine was about 5 months
@michaelfiaschetti1898
@michaelfiaschetti1898 2 года назад
Was your pistol ever blued, or is it in the white? Thanks Mike Fiaschetti
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 2 года назад
Pistols of WW2 vintage were Parkerised (grey Zinc Phosphate coated). Prior to WW2 they were all blued. Rearsenalled guns would be Parkerised.
@richardlahan7068
@richardlahan7068 2 года назад
I'd love to have one but I can't afford the CMP prices.
@williamb8180
@williamb8180 2 года назад
Why does everyone think this Fire Arm is so difficult i carry one for 8 year in the service..i had the Browning...
@enricomandragona163
@enricomandragona163 Год назад
Nice gun dude. So what you got is a pre 1918 slide. If the frame was a Colt you'd have a treasure. However the frame is is probably WW -2 early 2 generation because you have a short trigger.
@davidl8425
@davidl8425 6 месяцев назад
Can a colt slide be dated by the serial number?
@enricomandragona163
@enricomandragona163 6 месяцев назад
@@davidl8425 no only the frame!! However the way the front site is pinned and the size can tell you what generation as well as the rear sites if they weren't already replaced
@davidl8425
@davidl8425 6 месяцев назад
@@enricomandragona163 so the frame and slide weren't matched by serial numbers? I have a colt frame 1717899 and slide 734xxx. Thanks
@enricomandragona163
@enricomandragona163 6 месяцев назад
@@davidl8425 I have an Ithaca 1944 with a similar number and was made by Colt as I looked it up under Colts registry finder
@enricomandragona163
@enricomandragona163 6 месяцев назад
@@davidl8425 The Bluing on the slide is alo an indication if it's original to the gun . Watch Mr Colt 45 videos very informative
@WhuppopotamusYT
@WhuppopotamusYT 2 года назад
Found a '41 all numbers matching at my local pawn shop for $600 and I'm sending it out for hard chrome tomorrow, don't worry someone already bubba refinished it so it needs something anyways
@colt45peacemaker
@colt45peacemaker 2 года назад
Great gun. I don't believe it has been refinished.
@stevestoll3124
@stevestoll3124 2 года назад
I looked at one and the price was not worth the junk coming out of the CMP. I went with a Ballester-Molina for the same price. I got what I truly wanted a quality 1911A1 style with numbers matching.
@kagyu1
@kagyu1 2 года назад
My hope is to use mine to get a Les Baer. The historical value is minimal , the nostalgic value is subjective to the imagination of those who value them and they are not hard to sell.
@antoniopaniaguacastillo2795
@antoniopaniaguacastillo2795 2 года назад
RR
@thetoneknob4493
@thetoneknob4493 2 года назад
going by the tail on the rampant colt the slides a 1942 production as it has two bulbous sections rather than just one. its a valuable slide it was only done in 1942.their should be a serial number under the firing pin retainer the 800xxx range. mines number 8085xx. and from all the barrels ive inspected and tested the flanerey bolt company made the best ones aside from the match barrels ive seen. ide be tempted to replace the hammer with a wide short spur with fine checkering along with slide stop and safety lever.. its not hard to improve these with some elbow grease and know how. i got lucky i bought a bring back that had ben converted to a match pistol and blued witch is why i was able to score a numbers matching 1942 colt that shoots better than a les bayer for 300$! now if i was looking for a platform for a custom build ide go for the low grade on cosmetics and have a masterpiece built on a gi frame and slide! cause those are awesome!
@secondhandlyon2603
@secondhandlyon2603 2 года назад
How is this an A1? It has a straight backstrap
@rencleavus5213
@rencleavus5213 2 года назад
No, it's arched.
@ThugsLifeBucsIVLife
@ThugsLifeBucsIVLife 2 года назад
Your Eys must not be str8 sheesh lol
@peghead
@peghead Год назад
Also, the A1 featured frame tweaks such as chamfering to the rear of trigger guard, and the grip safety spur was lengthened. Mainspring housings could be swapped-out if the armorer had the older flat housing.
@leskobrandon538
@leskobrandon538 2 года назад
Buy a new armorer's grade unfitted safety and slide stop and fill them yourself with a fine gun smithing file..
@LionquestFitness
@LionquestFitness 2 года назад
Good and thorough review, but for the price? No thanks. For half the price you can get a RIA GI 1911 that's serviceable, shootable and under warrantee. and still a sense of nostalgia. I like collecting old S&W revolvers and old milsurps from around the world, but for the CMP 1911's you are paying a lot of money for junky old guns that should have been retired decades and decades ago. Just my two cents.
@bigdaddysshop8180
@bigdaddysshop8180 Год назад
But it has no Military History..
@LionquestFitness
@LionquestFitness Год назад
@@bigdaddysshop8180 I understand if you are a collector. Some of us though are more interested in something we can use and shoot in the spirit of the original.
@peghead
@peghead Год назад
They were retired decades and decades ago, circa 1985 when we adopted the Berretta 9mm.
@LionquestFitness
@LionquestFitness Год назад
@@peghead Isn't that a bit of an obvious and well known fact? I'm talking about them being warehoused or leased to other countries overseas for decades before being allowed to be sold by the CMP.
@Portrayalpress
@Portrayalpress Год назад
@@LionquestFitness Not correct. There are some wonderful pieces coming out of the CMP - it is the luck of the draw, but that is part of the fun. I will share a video soon of the matching 1945 Remington Rand rack grade I just received. It is a beauty.
@johnplaid648
@johnplaid648 2 года назад
I bought a Colt Government in SS. I want to sell it.
@brettneville2351
@brettneville2351 2 года назад
You should be able to get your money back easily on resale!
@michaelhodges8312
@michaelhodges8312 Год назад
I sold my Colt Commander in SS and got me a Tisas 1911A1 Army. Glad I did, the Colt was absolutely awful. The fit on my Tisas is impressive.
@themedhunter
@themedhunter Год назад
Great video! I just got my number assigned, so hoping to get a call soon. I know it is a bit pricey, but I think it is a good investment given the popularity and history. Good luck everyone!
@chrismead5446
@chrismead5446 3 месяца назад
Beautiful piece of history. But please go buy a replica 1911 A1 for heavy shooting and competition. Those pistols are almost 100 years old. They’re a collectors piece. Don’t wear it out. You can buy a Tisas 1911 A1 US army clone that is extremely accurate to the real deal. They cost $400 bucks and you can put thousands of rounds through it.
@claytonhamilton4889
@claytonhamilton4889 10 месяцев назад
You never do tell the price of it so everyone will know
@theprodigy529
@theprodigy529 Год назад
You wait until minute 12 to tell us that you arent a 1911 guy...
@ichimonjiguy
@ichimonjiguy Год назад
Love your pistol, but the video. The focus is in and out, and in and out. All the time. Please keep a constant distance between the lens and the object. Try not do Macro on the fly, because the focus will be shifting. Sorry, my eyes are getting tired from watching this. Practice makes it prefect. I'm sure your future videos will be better.
@josephbolz4550
@josephbolz4550 2 года назад
Way to much money for a clunky mix master. Those magazines are junk too
@bigdaddysshop8180
@bigdaddysshop8180 Год назад
Evidently you don't understand it's about the History of the US freedom because of the weapon.. If you want a perfect pistol,then go to the Big Box Store and buy one that everyone else has. I'd bet you never served in the Military.
@josephbolz4550
@josephbolz4550 Год назад
I understand you got hosed. Only neophyte collectors spend on the CMP guns. Maybe once and awhile someone gets a USS or something valuable
@josephbolz4550
@josephbolz4550 Год назад
I understand you got hosed. Only neophyte collectors spend on the CMP guns. Maybe once and awhile someone gets a USS or something valuable
@josephbolz4550
@josephbolz4550 Год назад
I understand you got hosed. Only neophyte collectors spend on the CMP guns. Maybe once and awhile someone gets a USS or something valuable
@josephbolz4550
@josephbolz4550 Год назад
I understand you got hosed. Only neophyte collectors spend on the CMP guns. Maybe once and awhile someone gets a USS or something valuable
@mrhamburger6936
@mrhamburger6936 2 года назад
It's a good example of a overpriced recycled many times military handgun Frankenstein pistol
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