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Using an Out-of-Control Car to Calculate π. 

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Happy Pi Day: 14 March 2023. (Yes, the video goes out a few days early. So teachers have time to plan their Pi Day activities.)
Huge thanks to Eric and the whole team for letting us in to skid some cars and calculate pi.
It was an active and working site and they did a great job making time, staff and cars available for us.
If you want to learn more about traffic reconstruction calculations, check out this (slightly odd) 1983 book "Handbook For The Accident Reconstructionist". www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/Photoco...
If you want to sign-up and hear about Pi Day 2024 plans, here is the form: bit.ly/piday24help
Huge thanks to my Patreon people who support all my silly Pi Day videos with their irrational funding. Join in and we'll make Pi Day 2024 bigger and sillier. / standupmaths
And sorry I could only put the names of Statistically Significant and higher Patreon tiers on the scrolling credits. A bunch of that was done by hand and that was the limit of what could be lined up.
CORRECTIONS
- If we had used 26/38 exactly were would have π = 3.136421 which is basically 3.14 (First spotted by CK.)
- Let me know if you spot anything else!
Filming and editing by Alex Genn-Bash
Pi Reconstruction by Eric
Stunt Driving by A Colleague Of Eric's
Location provided by Like We're Going To Tell You
Extra help by Why Are You Asking So Many Questions
Written and performed by Matt Parker
Credits Animation by William Marler
Produced by Nicole Jacobus
Music by Howard Carter
Design by Simon Wright and Adam Robinson
MATT PARKER: Stand-up Mathematician
Website: standupmaths.com/
US book: www.penguinrandomhouse.com/bo...

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@standupmaths
@standupmaths Год назад
UPDATE: If we had used 26/38 exactly were would have π = 3.136421 which is basically 3.14. (I stand by my 3.12 but I am kicking myself.) Yes, yes, it's not Pi Day for a few more days. As always: I try to get the Pi Day video goes out a few days early so teachers have time to plan their Pi Day activities. And leaving it until Monday next week felt too late. So, ah, what are we all doing for Pi Day this year?
@jackeea_
@jackeea_ Год назад
I'll be wondering what's so special about 14.3!
@legofan2284
@legofan2284 Год назад
Given pi = 3.112, the viedo release isn't that badly timed
@SoftwareSimian_
@SoftwareSimian_ Год назад
Calculate pi by pi day release dates.
@hallohoegaathet7182
@hallohoegaathet7182 Год назад
On π day i am going celebrate my birthday
@TheDoh007
@TheDoh007 Год назад
I'll probably be giving pepper to a friend xd
@PopeGoliath
@PopeGoliath Год назад
Every time someone says "we can ignore" or "lets not worry about", an angel takes away a digit of precision.
@murk1e
@murk1e Год назад
Fortunately ♾️-1 = ♾️
@ultimateo621
@ultimateo621 Год назад
Nice
@Rabbit-the-One
@Rabbit-the-One Год назад
Let's not worry about that though.
@Rabbit-the-One
@Rabbit-the-One Год назад
@@murk1e where'd you get that fancy infinity? Is that like a deep cut emoji near the bottom? All I have is the ∞ from the = long press.
@Raulxz
@Raulxz Год назад
@jacobdgm
@jacobdgm Год назад
Fun fact: It's important that the undisclosed location was in North America. Due to the Coriolis Effect, skidding cars spin in the other direction in Australia/South Africa/etc.
@DavidGuild
@DavidGuild Год назад
Somewhere out there, someone believes you.
@andrewdescant
@andrewdescant Год назад
Fun fact you need to use the chiral version of Pi in the southern hemisphere
@bsharpmajorscale
@bsharpmajorscale Год назад
What happens with skidding cars at the equator, then!? :P
@jacksonpowers4459
@jacksonpowers4459 Год назад
@@bsharpmajorscaleCars do not spin at the equator.
@bsharpmajorscale
@bsharpmajorscale Год назад
@@jacksonpowers4459 That's what I thought, but I wanted to confirm it. Very linear.
@gcewing
@gcewing Год назад
I'm imagining an xkcd based on this. "The pi button on my calculator is broken, so whenever I want to calculate the area of a circle I have to put my car into a skid."
@ckq
@ckq Год назад
You would've got 3.136 if you didn't round 26/38 as 0.68 13:15
@standupmaths
@standupmaths Год назад
OH DANG YOU'RE RIGHT
@cragonaut
@cragonaut Год назад
What would happen if the 15 approximation hadn't been used in preference over the real value?
@ratboy2713
@ratboy2713 Год назад
I'm waiting for the day when Matt discovers significant digits and stops prematurely rounding everything off
@ncrshane1919
@ncrshane1919 Год назад
@@cragonaut Punching it in with 14.962 instead of 15, and going with the better 0.684 coefficient of friction gets you pi as 3.128 rounding to 3 decimal places.
@wertacus
@wertacus Год назад
​@@ratboy2713 that comment made me laugh so hard! The irony 😅
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Год назад
Fun fact: The value of pi for 2023 matches the one for 2019 to three decimal places. 2019: pi = 3.11791 2023: pi = 3.11712
@oskarthompson3789
@oskarthompson3789 Год назад
The the real value of pi must be 3.117505 +- 0.49, amazing
@robertthompson3447
@robertthompson3447 Год назад
How does this, not have more likes!?!
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen Год назад
Good to know that pi isn't changing too rapidly over time. I hope next year most of the digits I memorised will still be correct.
@robbiemer8178
@robbiemer8178 Год назад
@@oskarthompson3789 Come on. You know the real value of pi was in our hearts all along...
@randomizednamme
@randomizednamme Год назад
@@robbiemer8178is that a suggestion for next year’s calculation?
@Karagoth444
@Karagoth444 Год назад
Matt: Happy Pi Day But it's not Pi day yet? Matt: calculates Pi to 3.117, posts video at 3am on 0311 AU eastern time I stand corrected
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 Год назад
The other pi approximation day.
@the4spaceconstantstetraqua886
Nice coincidence
@nomadMik
@nomadMik Год назад
As I say every year, π is closer to 22/7 than 3.14, so he's really just humouring his US viewers by posting the videos four months early. The fact that professionals are bumbling with feet and pounds and miles mean they may as well be using 3.12 for π in the US… or 7/22… 😏
@adamplace1414
@adamplace1414 11 месяцев назад
​@@nomadMikyes, the imprecision of 0.3048 metres and 0.45359237 kg is the real problem..
@munjee2
@munjee2 Год назад
3.1023 is quite the Parker approximation of pi
@scottmclaughlin1410
@scottmclaughlin1410 Год назад
I was just wondering what he was saying that for
@Neefew
@Neefew Год назад
It's definitely closer than some of his previous approximations
Год назад
2.0230310 is quite close as well
@jessehammer123
@jessehammer123 Год назад
Huh? He estimated 3.117, not 3.1023.
@ArcheoLumiere
@ArcheoLumiere Год назад
​@@jessehammer123 r/woosh
@mauri7959
@mauri7959 Год назад
After so many Calculator Unboxing videos, Matt still uses the phone calculator
@standupmaths
@standupmaths Год назад
The ability to screengrab is just too convenient! It's not for a lack of other calculators in my office.
@iamdigory
@iamdigory Год назад
@@standupmaths you gotta go hardcore and use a circular slide rule for pi day
@CaioTrinchinato
@CaioTrinchinato Год назад
Go abacus or go home! LoL
@Petch85
@Petch85 Год назад
Honestly, all youtuber's need merch and he already have Maths Gear so he should just bite the bullet and make he's own graph calculator and include screengrab. Maybe add spreadsheet capabilities and color screen for the graphs, use USB to charge the replaceable battery and have a nice keyboard and make sure that it can write the equations probably. There have been no new innovation on the calculator market since the mobile phone. I am still using my two old trusty voyage 200 and I think it is time for something new.
@PopeGoliath
@PopeGoliath Год назад
@@standupmaths maybe you could unbox a capture card for your calculators?
@Halinn
@Halinn Год назад
Looking forwards to "calculating pi by taking the average of all the times I've calculated pi"
@wynoglia
@wynoglia Год назад
It'll be glorious in 20 years time
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Год назад
The series of values of Matt's calculations diverges to pi.
@Huntracony
@Huntracony Год назад
Average is easy. I want the most likely value of pi assuming the guesses follow a normal distribution.
@sarahgargani5836
@sarahgargani5836 Год назад
i was curious to see what his current average is: 3.186.
@DeathClawz
@DeathClawz Год назад
How my brain viewed Matt's drawing: 2:26 Car from above 2:28 Car from side (I expected a round view of the tire) 2:40 I think Matt has gone insane before finally realizing it's a head-on view (or a rearview tbf, is a rearview a head-off? 🤔) Keep up the vids, interesting as always :)
@RMDragon3
@RMDragon3 Год назад
Same!!
@bcpatter68
@bcpatter68 Год назад
Ditto!
@texasranger7687
@texasranger7687 Год назад
Same
@hypoaktivnaovca
@hypoaktivnaovca Год назад
No, a rearview is a mooning 🙃
@BTGTB
@BTGTB Год назад
I was doing the same thing.
@lak395
@lak395 Год назад
Folks, find yourself someone who looks at you how Matt looks at 3.117
@djsmeguk
@djsmeguk Год назад
So, when is Matt going to use his previous approximations of pi to calculate pi again? By the way, not using the simple average way. Rather, treat his values as normally distributed and calculate pi by reconstructing the Gaussian curve and solving for the area under is as sqrt(pi)
@PopeGoliath
@PopeGoliath Год назад
I'm here for it
@freshrockpapa-e7799
@freshrockpapa-e7799 Год назад
How exactly does your method work? You can't reconstruct a gaussian curve because you only have the observation, not the probability of getting each observation
@cinemaker321
@cinemaker321 Год назад
​@@freshrockpapa-e7799 I think they may be talking about Maximum Likelihood Estimation (MLE). There are some good videos explaining on it on YT.
@freshrockpapa-e7799
@freshrockpapa-e7799 Год назад
@@cinemaker321 that would result in the same pi estimation as just making the average...
@Houshalter
@Houshalter Год назад
Probably a log normal distribution. Maybe even something weirder since some calculations get lots of digits and some very few.
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox Год назад
Unicar might be the most terrifying concept for a vehicle I've ever seen.
@Platanov
@Platanov Год назад
Pi Day is like Groundhog Day, except instead of setting the start of spring, we're setting the value of pi for the year.
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 Год назад
Also its like the movie Groundhog Day where we keep doing the same thing over and over (calculating pi), and things going wrong.
@Horseshoecrabwarrior
@Horseshoecrabwarrior Год назад
"Okay everyone, this year pi is equal to four!" *A roar of complaints and cursing from mathematicians, engineers, and other pi users everywhere*
@ColinGLogan
@ColinGLogan Год назад
All those imperial units... *shudder*. Your sacrifice is appreciated, Matt
@paulcrumley9756
@paulcrumley9756 Год назад
In North America it was more likely "conventional units," which predate so-called "Imperial Units."
@Chris-hx3om
@Chris-hx3om Год назад
No, they're North American units, which don't even match Imperial! 🤦
@ColinGLogan
@ColinGLogan Год назад
@@paulcrumley9756 Well, "predate" isn't the correct way to describe it - the introduction of imperial units occurred 1826, and that of the US customary system in 1832 - but yes, they are technically not directly related, both were separately derived from the prior "English units" system, albeit in very similar manners. My comment is technically wrong, so fair enough for the correction, but in my defense, I'm from the UK, so the bad units were always called imperial when I was growing up, and it was a joke lol.
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech Год назад
I was thinking maybe these wouldn't be the really bad ones (like hole gages). Then I checked... there's a factor 11 in the number of yards per mile, and it's 15% off from a nautical mile. WTF.
@josephmelnick3446
@josephmelnick3446 Год назад
What?! No scores of furlongs per fortnight speed measurements?!?! ... using Roman numerals?!?! ... in base 60?!?! ... in Braille?!?! Tsk, tsk, tsk.
@Verlisify
@Verlisify Год назад
"I think that might drag my average track record closer to pi" I can't wait for next year's video to be 'finding pi by averaging pi attempts'
@ocicrab
@ocicrab Год назад
Next year, you should try using the buckling equation. It gives the maximum load that a column can support before buckling. F = pi^2 * E*I / L^2, where E is the Young's modulus (material property), I depends on the size and shape of the cross section, and L is the length. The equation is slightly different depending on how the two ends are supported. There are also the beam bending equations which relate the displacement of a cantilever beam to the amount of force applied (displacement of the end = F*L^3 / (3*E*I) ), so if you don't have E and I, you can calculate (E*I) from displacement of a cantilever beam and plug it into the buckling equation. I just ran an experiment with angel hair pasta, where I measured force vs. displacement of a bundle of 20 angel hair pastas using a kitchen scale to calculate E*I (divide by 20 to get a single pasta). Then measured the buckling load for individual pieces of angel hair of various length by pressing it onto the scale until it broke. My estimate for pi was 2.675, less than 15% error with only 6 trials. I can imagine a fun video where you have a bunch of students run the same experiment with different pasta (spaghetti, fettucini, etc.), and then bring in some heavy machinery to run it with metal rods/tubes.
@Salien1999
@Salien1999 Год назад
My intuition says something a little less brittle would work better, but I could be way off. Regardless, that's an interesting idea.
@mikasa3427
@mikasa3427 Год назад
That equation is an upper bound and very sensitive to imperfections so it's always going to give you a large(ish) underestimate no matter how many times you run the experiment.
@chipgruver2911
@chipgruver2911 Год назад
Should we update Pi Day to March 12th this year? We need to hurry and make the official announcement!
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen Год назад
It's the 22nd of July, duh.
@SeanCMonahan
@SeanCMonahan Год назад
π = 3.10 based on this video's release date
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl Год назад
​@@nicholasvinen LOL, another day to celebrate maths? Let's do both! Both is good!
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen Год назад
@@MaryAnnNytowl 22/7 would be a good day to celebrate approximations.
@rhialtothemarvellify
@rhialtothemarvellify Год назад
Obviously, pi day is 31-4 (since there is no 3-14 because we have only 12 months)...
@andrew66862
@andrew66862 Год назад
I somehow expected you to continue "testing track at an undisclosed location," with "...just off the A281 between Bramley and Bucks"
@ponyote
@ponyote Год назад
I had wondered where the 'spherical cow' part would come in, then you explained that it is a single tire car. :D
@PeachCrusher69
@PeachCrusher69 Год назад
physicists after assuming planet Earth as a cube (it's close enough)
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox Год назад
@@PeachCrusher69 i mean the triangle wave on the NES is supposed to be "close enough" to a sine wave (it isn't)
@trulyinfamous
@trulyinfamous Год назад
​@@TorutheRedFox it works better than a sine wave because of the overtones caused by the uneven jagged edge of the triangle. The NES triangle is meant for lower tones and goes out of tune quickly at higher tones, and low notes of a pure sine wave are very difficult to hear without good speakers. It wasn't really meant to work like a sine wave.
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl Год назад
​@@trulyinfamous that's... a bit difficult to believe, as drastically different as the two are.
@jackielinde7568
@jackielinde7568 Год назад
Eric: "Surly somewhere there's Pi," Me: "There's always Pie, and never call me Shirley."
@samarvora7185
@samarvora7185 Год назад
Surely you can't be serious...
@mattb5816
@mattb5816 Год назад
​@@samarvora7185 They're not serious, they're Shirley.
@jackielinde7568
@jackielinde7568 Год назад
@@mattb5816 Samar got the joke... and probably watched the movie, too. Gotta love ol' Leslie Nielsen
@samarvora7185
@samarvora7185 Год назад
@@jackielinde7568 I just wanna tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
@jackielinde7568
@jackielinde7568 Год назад
@@samarvora7185 Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.
@Sam-lr9oi
@Sam-lr9oi Год назад
I'm actually a Volvo enthusiast so that car drawing works very well for me
@endersdragon34
@endersdragon34 Год назад
It's a Parker Car
@KSignalEingang
@KSignalEingang Год назад
They're Boxy, But They're Good
@ERNesbitt
@ERNesbitt Год назад
@@KSignalEingang Yes! Someone else who's seen that movie!
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl Год назад
​@@KSignalEingang didn't that movie bomb? Assuming it's the one I think it is, of course. Dudley Moore as the lead, IIRC. It's been so freaking long since I even thought about it, I might be wrong.
@KSignalEingang
@KSignalEingang Год назад
@@MaryAnnNytowl I don't know how well Crazy People did at the box office, but I suspect more people know that quote than have seen it..which is a shame, it's a really funny film. (Ok if I'm honest most of the good jokes are in the first half. Still! Def'ly underrated.)
@joshuapaulwhite
@joshuapaulwhite Год назад
As a chemistry professor, not showing units during dimensional analysis is killing me! Love the videos
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen Год назад
I refuse to follow SI advice to put a thin space between a number and a unit because I feel so strongly that the two are not separable.
@barneylaurance1865
@barneylaurance1865 Год назад
@@nicholasvinen I feel the same about numbers and currencies for sums of money. I'm always wanting to keep them together in an object when I'm working on computer programs - but a lot of programmers are willing to pass them around the program separately and just hope they'll always remember not to put a number together with a currency that doesn't belong to it.
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen Год назад
@@barneylaurance1865 yeah, that's a recipe for mistakes. I agree that currencies are basically like units. The number without it has no real meaning any more.
@bluerizlagirl
@bluerizlagirl Год назад
@@nicholasvinen I grew up with mechanical typewriters and then fixed-width fonts on character-mapped displays, i.e. not having any way to create a thin space, so it's natural to type the unit butted-up hard against the number even if that is not the way I would hand-write it. But I also think of the prefix as belonging more to the number than the unit. For instance, 170cm. can be thought of as (170 centi) metres, with "170 centi" being just a funny way of saying 1.7. (OK, this gets awkward with mass ..... we would have to rename the kilogram, and then the renamed gram would have milli in it, and maybe the cooks would be annoyed, which probably why it wasn't done before.) Casio calculators actually used to have an "ENG" button, short for "Engineers' notation" which would adjust the mantissa of a number upwards or downwards (depending if or not you pressed "INV" beforehand) to make the exponent a multiple of three and therefore align with a named prefix, e.g. 06 = mega, 03 = kilo, -03 = milli, -06 = micro &c. So if you get an answer of 5.89e-7 you can render this as 589e-9 or 0.589e-6. (And many other, less-sensible ways of writing it!)
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian Год назад
Technically, you shouldn't show units during dimensional analysis. Units are, though related, not quite the same thing as dimensions. Dimensions (in the context of dimensional analysis) are things like length, time, mass, while units are meters, miles, seconds, hours, kilograms, pounds, etc... So you can't attach actual numerical values to dimensions (because of the lack of unit), but the whole purpose of dimensional analysis is a sanity check that an equation isn't nonsense equating apples and oranges, so that doesn't matter.
@nsub1
@nsub1 Год назад
If you use another decimal point of precision for the coefficient of friction you get 0.684, which yields an even better approximation of 3.135!
@akabami2161
@akabami2161 Год назад
r/unexpectedfactorial
@SgtLion
@SgtLion Год назад
Snap
@freshrockpapa-e7799
@freshrockpapa-e7799 Год назад
That's not how precision works...
@lboijens2173
@lboijens2173 Год назад
684
@phiefer3
@phiefer3 Год назад
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 What do you mean? That's exactly how precision works.
@Demonblade36
@Demonblade36 Год назад
Happy Parker-Pi day everyone!
@DotArve
@DotArve Год назад
Parker-Pi = 3.1
@robertthompson3447
@robertthompson3447 Год назад
I was wondering why this video was released early. 🤦‍♂️
@Dvard
@Dvard Год назад
Happy Mario Day
@dk6024
@dk6024 Год назад
Kudos to your guest for saying 'formulae'.
@SoleaGalilei
@SoleaGalilei Год назад
The calculation was nice and all, but I was most fascinated by learning about Eric's job! I'd never realized that was something people did for a living. I love hearing about unusual careers.
@Scum42
@Scum42 Год назад
Oh man, I love the [undisclosed individuals] at [undisclosed location]. They're so friendly!
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Год назад
They're very undisclosed.
@bluecat2991
@bluecat2991 Год назад
You really went "sphere in a vacuum" on this one and I love it.
@KerryHallPhD
@KerryHallPhD Год назад
LOL at measuring the circumference when you had to set a rope to the length of the radius.
@cloneclone5341
@cloneclone5341 Год назад
12:59 you know things get serious when Matt uses the Scientific Mode
@ErlendBarkbu
@ErlendBarkbu Год назад
When you pressed the equal sign I went “Oooh!” loud enough to make my son ask what’s up. I had to tell him that Matt got pretty close to pi and he was impressed.
@AussieFlyer86
@AussieFlyer86 Год назад
Hey Matt, as an idea for pi day next year; the max slope of the lift coefficient for an ideal 2D wing is 2*pi.
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen Год назад
So, Tau?
@bluerizlagirl
@bluerizlagirl Год назад
@@nicholasvinen Depending which part of Greece they (or whoever taught them to speak Greek .....) are from, some people pronounce it Tav.
@dougmanatt4317
@dougmanatt4317 Год назад
This is an engineering discussion, if it were a physics discussion, the car would be spherical.
@m1lkweed
@m1lkweed Год назад
Can't spell yearly without early, great video Matt!
@theblindspot985
@theblindspot985 Год назад
I really thought when Matt said he was at an undisclosed test track he was gonna pull the old top gear bit where he says exactly where it is.
@oxilite
@oxilite Год назад
Thanks for the early reminder that pi day is coming up!
@Sirby
@Sirby Год назад
I was wondering why the PI day video was up on 3/11, then I burst up laughing when the 3,117 result came up. Of course I then realized this was not in fact related but I would totally back the idea that PI day is just whatever day you end up calculating each year!
@adamplace1414
@adamplace1414 Год назад
Now that we've seen the preview for Fast and Furious 3.14, I can't wait for the theatrical release!
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Год назад
The critics don't love it. They have qualms with the pacing; it just goes on forever.
@psychosis7325
@psychosis7325 Год назад
This was just too awesome 😅 I'm a mechanic and tyre specialist by trade and super nerd by heart so I was on the edge of my seat the whole way and the ending did not disappoint. Love that rounding killed your average too 🤣👌 as before I started watching with kids I quite literally gave them a talk and said more than a couple decimals is useless for all but going to mars and gave an example of being off a little at short distance but still hitting an edge, then another one far away where you would miss by a star shot at same error margin 👏 I want Pi day every day now 😊
@almaraNZ
@almaraNZ Год назад
Dude. Your videos are literally my favourite bedtime stories and I have been /waiting/ for this one. Had a burnout week and for some reason thought pi day was 3/3 so I've been holding out on the edge of my seat since before then
@WRSomsky
@WRSomsky Год назад
As a physicist, a few nits: 1) The force of friction is pointed inward, not outward. It *is* the centripital force; it doesn't *balance* it. 2) The coefficient of friction is usually represented as mu.
@douglasboyle6544
@douglasboyle6544 Год назад
I like the real-world application, thanks Eric for bringing this to us this Pi Day!
@ajm7375
@ajm7375 Год назад
Your videos made me love math!!! I catch myself teaching my daughter and little cousin math tricks and watching their brains figure it out looking off into space is the coolest thing ever. Matt you’ve inspired so many I feel it’s my job to pass the torch along. Keep making us say wow! Love your channel
@logicalfundy
@logicalfundy Год назад
It's not out of control! It's doing exactly what he wants it to do! 😉 Also, pretty impressed you managed to get two digits of accuracy out of that.
@eeebird
@eeebird Год назад
10:15 "I don't want to alarm you but for the historical level of precision from my calculations we're good!" 🤣🤣
@venkatachalamgomathi8873
@venkatachalamgomathi8873 Год назад
I love how you removed your cap at the beginning as a cue to the driver
@albertlyngpetersen8702
@albertlyngpetersen8702 Год назад
As a physicist, I really think you should measure each of the uncertainties and find the total uncertainty using the error propagation law. This way you get a feel of how luck-based you accuracy is.
@singerofsongs468
@singerofsongs468 Год назад
This is the second Pi Day video I’ve seen put out a few days early for teachers. LOVE that! :)
@Almrond
@Almrond Год назад
I was wondering why this was early, then I read the description. Thanks for being great not just to students, but to teachers as well :)
@deanfielding4411
@deanfielding4411 Год назад
I love the creative ways you find Pi.
@ecyor0
@ecyor0 Год назад
Next year, Matt calculates Pi by herding border collies with squeaky toys.
@clementlebeau484
@clementlebeau484 Год назад
I hate all the imperial units in these formulas, but apart from that, very nice approximation!
@stevewandel9317
@stevewandel9317 Год назад
agree. Wonder if there's a metric equivalent
@freshrockpapa-e7799
@freshrockpapa-e7799 Год назад
​@@stevewandel9317 dude it's the exact same thing in metric
@stevewandel9317
@stevewandel9317 Год назад
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 I kind of glossed over the bit where g for gravity was being screwed around with. Probably don't need to do anything for metric as everything is base 10
@wearloga
@wearloga Год назад
I'm absolutely amazed that the result was so 'precise' given the amount of rounding and the uncertainty of the measurements.
@artswri
@artswri Год назад
Very cool computational experiment! And no serious injuries as a bonus! Thanks to all!
@abigailcooling6604
@abigailcooling6604 Год назад
Love it when my interests of maths, cars and Matt calculating pi in weird ways come together! I am always surprised by how often pi turns up in equations that at first glance seem to have nothing to do with circles.
@steveparker9361
@steveparker9361 Год назад
3.30 So Matt's drawing an MGf skidding round a corner. Something that particular car is very good at: been there, done that!
@DuelScreen
@DuelScreen Год назад
This was a good Pi Day video. Good job and thanks to Eric both for suggesting this and helping you make this video.
@da_Space_Cowboi
@da_Space_Cowboi Год назад
So cool i absolutely love the different ways you can experimentally derive pi!
@DragCadRacing
@DragCadRacing Год назад
I was slightly nervous too, Matt! I'm always excited for these annual videos.
@DragCadRacing
@DragCadRacing Год назад
... After hitting "send", I realized that maybe there's a way to calculate pi using the fact that Pi Day comes around once a year??
@josephmelnick3446
@josephmelnick3446 Год назад
​@@DragCadRacing Does it involve furlongs per fortnight in the circumference of the year?!?!
@PronteCo
@PronteCo Год назад
The true PI-day celebration would be inventing time travel and going back to March 14 1592
@rmela4501
@rmela4501 Год назад
At 6:53:58 am
@KoRntech
@KoRntech Год назад
Thank you for coming across the pond to -5 UTC enduring our freedom units, to our First in Flight state as I watch from my chilled Birthplace of Aviation state.
@waltermeerschaert
@waltermeerschaert Год назад
When considering the errors inherent with your measurements, you can calculate the expected error of the answer, and it seems you actually nailed it. You can say the same thing about most of your π-day calculations.
@gleedads
@gleedads Год назад
Also, as a physicist, it causes me physical pain that you drew the friction force in the opposite direction to the mv^2/r. The friction force *is* the centripetal force (it is the force acting on the car that points towards the centre of the circle). It doesn't oppose the centripetal force. There is no actual force called "the centripetal force". We need some force to "be centripetal" for the car to turn, and in this case it happens to be friction that is playing that role.
@OurTube1011
@OurTube1011 Год назад
Thanks.
@srwapo
@srwapo Год назад
The speedometers in my cars are about 5-10% fast. Dropping that 25 mph by 5% seems to get you so much closer! (I'm doing the math in my head, I could be wrong, haha)
@hoebare
@hoebare Год назад
The discrepancy in your cars' speedometers could be because your speedometers were calibrated for larger wheels. To go the same speed a smaller wheel has to turn faster than a larger one would, and the speedometers are based on wheel rotation speed (sort of).
@srwapo
@srwapo Год назад
@@hoebare No, the wheels and tires are the stock size. And the odometers have read accurately! Seems to be a German car thing (VW and BMW), my folks' cars have always been accurate (Honda, Subarua, Kia...).
@jasperdegrood
@jasperdegrood Год назад
So cool! Loved the video! 😃Creative and exiting with the fast car. No worry's about the 26/38 thats all cool. Even cooler is that you approximated Tau. Clearly using 2Pi and the radius and by the magic of dividing Pi popped up! see you all june 28 th.
@J0EK1NG
@J0EK1NG Год назад
9/10 PI calculation. -1 for using f for coefficient of friction instead of µ
@SJohnTrombley
@SJohnTrombley Год назад
I'd love to participate in calculating pi by hand, but the odds are against it happening in the US, and I can't afford to travel internationally. Have fun everyone that can afford to participate.
@ILoveMyBikes
@ILoveMyBikes Год назад
❤ that you posted this on the date you calculated pi to be.
@sadmanislam5111
@sadmanislam5111 Год назад
@Stand-up Maths I love your annual pi series. It’s always great to see what ways you use to calculate pi each year.
@sammarks9146
@sammarks9146 Год назад
I’m glad you returned home for your derivations. It’s not safe to drive and derive.
@JohnLeePettimoreIII
@JohnLeePettimoreIII Год назад
2:25 to a topologist, a car with 2 open windows is a teacup.
@abigailcooling6604
@abigailcooling6604 Год назад
Laughed so hard at this!
@xb70valkyriech
@xb70valkyriech Год назад
"It's not just drifting, I'm actually doing math"
@josephmelnick3446
@josephmelnick3446 Год назад
"Remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down." Adam Savage, Mythbusters
@Insan1tyW0lf
@Insan1tyW0lf Год назад
This was a really fun collab and celebration of pi. Kudos to Eric for reaching out!
@cubicinfinity2
@cubicinfinity2 Год назад
I really like this tradition of stupid/silly/ridiculous/interesting ways to compute the floating point representation of pi each yeah.
@poopslots
@poopslots Год назад
3/10 is my favorite PI day
@defense200x
@defense200x Год назад
its 10.03 tho
@dontuserachelslurs
@dontuserachelslurs Год назад
​@@defense200x then there is no pi day because there's no 14th month of the year
@wesplybon9510
@wesplybon9510 Год назад
Is today Pi day? No... Was this supposed to be auto released on Tuesday? Yea, probably. Did I watch and enjoy anyway? Most absolutely!
@sergey1519
@sergey1519 Год назад
maybe he calculated it to be 3.10 this year?
@wesplybon9510
@wesplybon9510 Год назад
@@sergey1519 Well, to be honest, not done watching yet, but I'm half expecting 3.1 to be the result of his calculation HERE!
@adamsbja
@adamsbja Год назад
If I remember from past years he likes to get them out early for use in classrooms and such.
@Aquanz0r
@Aquanz0r Год назад
Parker Circle
@AllMightGaming-AMG
@AllMightGaming-AMG Год назад
If the speed is taken from the car's odometer, then it already incorporates pi to calculate the speed, as well as the "roller tool" that you used to measure the circumference.
@unclebrat
@unclebrat Год назад
I'm happy! This was a fun and informative video.
@timroot-shoshin4287
@timroot-shoshin4287 Год назад
The former physics teacher in me is screaming at you for not keeping your units in your equations. Yes, it takes more room, but then you don't lose track of anything. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
@MathNerd1729
@MathNerd1729 Год назад
Yep! And Matt should have written 3600/5280 in his explanation instead of 5280/3600; writing the units would've made that clearer
@danielschuett
@danielschuett Год назад
​@@MathNerd1729 When he read the units out loud without writing them down, it irritated me so much that it took me a minute to realize he had it upside down. It always helps to look at the units first to see where which variable goes.
@juho1069
@juho1069 Год назад
Never seen anyone use imperial units for physics calculations. It was... horrifying.
@freshrockpapa-e7799
@freshrockpapa-e7799 Год назад
It's very common actually and not an issue at all as long as you're consistent, knock it off
@Chris-hx3om
@Chris-hx3om Год назад
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 Why? imperial is a horrid system when trying to do calculations like this. And it's not 'common'. Most scientists use metric, even those in 'Murica!
@clausanders2886
@clausanders2886 Год назад
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 With this kind of units, you'll end up with any result you want. Add 2 cups of flour and 1 cup of water, 1 teaspoon of yeast and a pinch of sugar. Mix everything and wait a day or so. Ball it and stretch it to 12" and call it a pie.
@freshrockpapa-e7799
@freshrockpapa-e7799 Год назад
​@@Chris-hx3om uh, no it isn't, if you can't figure out how to use another system of units you clearly shouldn't be working in stem
@Chris-hx3om
@Chris-hx3om Год назад
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 Oh, I can work in either unit set (and I'm frequently forced to), and because of that I know just how difficult US imperial is! When will Murica join the rest of the world and ditch those archaic units?
@BakeBakePi
@BakeBakePi Год назад
That was really cool! I love this series!
@Hamuel
@Hamuel Год назад
Man I rewatched all the pi day videos to get myself hyped for this year's, not realizing that this one came out this year.
@BTElectric
@BTElectric Год назад
I don't think today is pi-day lol
@jajssblue
@jajssblue Год назад
I thought I had lost a week! 🤣
@fenokineza6259
@fenokineza6259 Год назад
I'll hopefully be able to finally pass my Physics I course this year. Good job on calculating PI!
@JoshSmith-db2of
@JoshSmith-db2of Год назад
Something to add to the CORRECTIONS section in the description: the conversion factor at 4:48 should be 3600/5280, not 5280/3600. I discovered this because I was curious if using the more precise value of 14.962 rather than 15 would improve the approximation of pi, so I was trying to reconstruct the calculation. Using 14.962 rather than 15 and exactly 26/38 for mu (I refuse to believe it's f), I got pi = 3.1285.
@KyotecYT
@KyotecYT Год назад
1 digit is a good enough approximation!
@shootingthebreeze4972
@shootingthebreeze4972 Год назад
Hi Matt. US collision reconstructionists may use 'f' for the coefficient of friction, but in the UK we use mu and sensible metric units. Didn't want everybody to think that we were making up our own names for the variables and not using SI units! Happy Pi Day. Thanks for what you do in showing maths (yep, with an 'S' on the end) in real world situations.
@Paint_The_Future
@Paint_The_Future Год назад
Undisclosed Location is beautiful this time of year. So jealous.
@oldred9122
@oldred9122 Год назад
2:22 Car person here. You actually drew a very accurate Volvo 240
@Bill_the_Red_Lichtie
@Bill_the_Red_Lichtie Год назад
Matt's Pi = 3.10 ? Hmmm 😀
@StefanRau
@StefanRau Год назад
Happy Engineers-Pi Day!
@MortalCosta
@MortalCosta Год назад
There hasn't been a truer comment to date
@tom_forsyth
@tom_forsyth Год назад
I would love to see some interval analysis for this experiment. Or just any interval analysis in any video, showing how the analysis works. It's always interesting to see which input errors contribute the most to output errors.
@likebot.
@likebot. Год назад
The formula and measurements in this science leaves no decimal places of accuracy, yet it's good enough to determine the speed of a vehicle with stunning accuracy. Being off 2 or 3 mph at highway speeds is very impressive.
@aidanmcgowan1486
@aidanmcgowan1486 Год назад
Happy pi day for 4 days!!
@nightpups5835
@nightpups5835 Год назад
Pretty sure Matt will find any way to calculate Pi to avoid something.
@doggonemess1
@doggonemess1 Год назад
8:39 Test mass. That would be a section of railroad track. I love that stuff. Makes a decent anvil, too.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Год назад
I’m absolutely not a Maths person at all, but I really enjoy watching your Pi video each year!
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