Using the Story Circle to Structure Your Screenplay 

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It does though really

Exactly! 😂

Lmao

Sounds like a great story

Mmm, metaphorical

This story moved me

Because it works!

TPK Productions the dark knight is one of the best written movies

@@ScaredStraightProductions So true!

Yepp, trying to cash in on somethnig popular.

@Cameron Carter the thing is, if you remove Batman from the story it wouldn't be the same regardless... the whole story would be different as a result. That's like saying someone walks into a dark room holding a flashlight, so let's replace the flashlight with a banana. I get what you mean, that a lot of the pull and attraction to The Dark Knight is the Batman and Joker elements, but the reason why this is a "good movie" is because it is well-structured, even if you don't believe it to be well written. It's a realistic exploration of fictional comic symbols which proved that there is substance to those very characters. So in that way, the story wouldn't work unless Batman were in the role as he is.

True. It's hard and it can be devestating. But the best reward is when someone read and doesn't tell you it's good, but tells you actually why they think it's good. And the best answer to get is: Because I can relate to it.

I think writers such as Ernest Hemingway would relate

all work and no play makes jack a dull boy

Not really, you're with the characters of the story

If you have any stuff you’ve written that you want to share, I’d love to hear it! I’m a filmmaker and always looking for good story’s and scripts! Insta @chelseabutz

I wonder who came up with this circle before Dan? It's like salesmen are writing movies these days. Predictable, forgettable, snackable, marketable content. Where are the artists?

@@samuelfaict5755 I think it all depends on the real goal of the story; income vs. art. That's not to say those two can be combined, but with the media nowadays movie makers can entertain an entire planet if they're up to it, so the movies produced can be streamlined a whole lot.

Leto85 hahahha

Samuel Faict Its originally called the Hero’s Journey. I dont remember the name of the man who discovered it but he did so by studying and comparing religious myths and stories and found that all of them had this core story structure which he called The Hero’s Journey. Dan Harmon’s story circles is a more simplified version of it

@@mikehawkertz9237 the man was Joseph Campbell who wrote a book called hero with a thousand faces .

You like this, you ought to look into K. Campbell's Hero's Journey. This is a streamlined version.

“So you want future children but...” [sips hot cocoa, brings down mug to reveal marshmallow mustache] “...at what cost...? Hm?”

Wow, you'll be a cool dad.

Instead of bed time stories, write your life story. It’s a story nobody else can tell but you. Then Sell it, cause there always somebody wanting to read it and enjoy it.

JackAlope !, Joseph Campbell wrote about the Hero’s Journey.

Why the second is ”yes, and” and not ”yes, but”? I mean, how do ”and” and ”but” differ in the context of this technique? Unfortunately, I can't find it on Google.

@@joech1065 same thing, you can put yes/but instead of yes/and , i probably wrote it wrong. yes/but - there's a win, BUT something goes wrong no/and - there's a loss, AND something gets worse no/but - there's a loss BUT theres a glimmer of hope

Without all of this ^ the story circle is basically 3-Act structure put in a circle.

can you link something which speaks about these points? please and thanks :)

@@rixbase check out studio bindors video on this topic

Thankss for this

@@vlc-cosplayer I waited tables for almost 20 years. I've served enough tools in my lifetime. So thank you for that sentiment. Also thanks to the original commenter. I watched all the way through this video trying to figure out what was so genius or revolutionary about this model. Wasn't until I read this comment that the originality of this perspective clicked. Side note: I kind of feel like the video creator forced some square pegs into round holes to make Dark Knight fulfill the story circle model through four acts. It does not put the protagonist in a familiar or comfortable situation to simply "still be Batman". He's Batman during all the other situations as well.

correct

Interesting thoughts. He absolutely kills Harvey. I'd be interested to hear how that is up for debate.

@@TylerMowery I agree he kills him, but I've had conversations with people who are convinced he didn't because he didn't intend to and that he fell the same fall and didn't die so they argued Harvey's death was an accident because a fall from that hight wouldn't kill you, etc. Yet to me, he killed him wether he wanted or not. I said it is debatable in my comment because I've had debates about it with people hahaha! Although I do stand on the fact that his moment of change is not marked by killing Harvey but by starting to act in ways he wouldn't have before... And a good example is the fact that he saves Reesse in the middle of the day (he never did Batman stuff in day-time, let alone do it to save someone who could and was going to out him as Batman)showing his change of mind before the climax.

fabroc8 I believe that his change was to realize that only someone who's willing to do the dirty work can be the protector of Gotham and not a squeaky clean person. He wanted Harvey to be the white knight but was corrupted. The dark knight wasn't corrupted so by the end he learns that someone who does the dirty work themselves can be the protector of Gotham. At the midpoint of the story, where the hero gets what they want, Harvey declares “I am the Batman” and is taken in. Batman wants Harvey to be the new protector for Gotham. Harvey can’t handle the problems the protector of Gotham would face since he turns to two face. The joker wanted to prove that everyone is corruptible. Throughout the whole film the joker was blackmailing people and corrupting them into betraying the good guys. At the end he even tries to make the two boats blow each other up. And you always end all the smaller story narrative problems first before the main one. The last problem Bruce solved was stopping Harvey from going to kill Gordon’s family. The whole story is about corruption and how the incorruptible are the only ones who can be the protectors of Gotham.

That’s always been my position too.

"Let me give you a piece of advice. No one in life ever starts a sentence with dammit."

That’s epic!

Lmao, I got the same ad at that same moment

THAT HAPPENED TO ME TOO LMAOOO

How perfectly timed

Kaufman is fantastic!

When I first read about this I started to think about serialised TV series. And you can see this structure over the entire show, over each season, each season 'act' over each episode then act then scene. Obviously this only works for shows that run their entire course and some shows fall out of this structure (usually when they jump the shark) but it's interesting

Glad to hear it!

damn 5 years later bro...

Glad the video was helpful!

It is still Harmmon's method. The hero's journey as a method doesn't work. It was never intended as that. That's why Harmmon had to create this method.

I won't dispute that it is instructive as a method and that it his own approach, but it's still derived from the hero's journey, whether or not that was the original intention.

The point of the video is not to discuss what Harmon based his story circle on, but to give an example of how to use a structure in storytelling. Anyone who's making a video about the story circle will obviously know where it came from, wouldn't they?

Yeah it's really wild that this video is blowing peoples mind.This is very literally english literature 101.

@@danielhammond2212 Exactly

“Dan Harmon observed” I think he means Dan Harmon read “the hero with a thousand faces”

Not gonna lie, I learned about the Hero’s Journey in 10th grade and never again so I completely forgot about it until you made this comment and now I’m running over to it for help because I remember now that I thought it was helpful all those years ago. Smh my memory is crap and this confirms it

The Bible says, “Open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful” (Pro. 27:5, 6

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Glad they have been helpful!

Glad you were helped by it!

"Heros journey" is bullshit too.

Dan Harmon explicitly references the Hero's Journey in his post about story structure.

It's basically a dumbed-down version and easier to apply to modern pieces. So, yes.

Yes it is based on Christopher vogler analogy Which again is based on joseph Campbell's work

@@NostalgiNorden The Hustler, Mean Girls, The Black Panther, Star Wars, Little Miss Sunshine...... Hero's Journey structure

Bruh he make documentaries he don't care about story

@@cothinker680 There is no storytelling in documentaries?

Yea the Story Circle is a great tool!