Using This Ancient Technique Makes a Raised Bed Last Longer!

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This Ancient Japanese method of preserving wood will help your Raised Bed last much longer, and it's all natural! This technique is known as Shou Sugi Ban.
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@missymoonwillow6545 Год назад

We utilize this technique with small building construction utilizing timber wood. Makes for a nice rustic finished look as well. Can prevent bugs from eating away at the wood, and it is utilized a lot in Japanese traditional architecture, which is where we learned the method. Very cool video!

@jodif8124 Год назад

You had me at flamethrower! Thank you for sharing all your builds!!

@gameenders5017 Год назад

Very nice looking bed. One tip though if you are going for longevity, is that you secured the corner with a screw going into end grain on one of the boards. Screwing into end grain are not that strong, with the flex from heat/cold pressure over time it will really loosen up that screw hole in the end grain. If you added a 2x2 to each corner you could screw through side grain of the outside board, and into the side grain of the 2x2, which is a much better and stronger joint. But I bet it would be sufficient as is, just a tip if you want them even more durable. I do like the char/brush/oil combo that's great.

@Rick-the-Swift Год назад

This is an excellent point that probably even most pros don't always think about. And in hindsight, yes most boards that I can remember "pulling loose" were due to screwing through into an end grain. If adding timbers to inside corners isn't an option then I'd say go extra long and as fat of a course thread that you can achieve if going into end grain. Very insightful and helpful post.

@freedomofreligion3248 Год назад

Fabulous tip, thx much.

@LoveColorado 3 месяца назад

Also, countersinking the screws will keep everything nice and tidy.

@Life-ch8rj Год назад

Very concise instructions. You’re a great teacher. I love the new content.

@ciphercollection Год назад

This bed is pretty much a work of art in my opinion and objectively, the amount of research and time you used in the process of making it is apparent in it's beauty. This looks like a lot of joy!

@lammzrii1031 Год назад

Beautiful! I'd love to see a follow-up video in 1-5 years to see how well it holds up!

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Me and Tuck are excited to share that. Especially compared to something like a standard raised bed that hasn’t been sealed.

@davehimlin2374 Год назад

@@jamesprigioni will this work on pine pallet wood ?

@Chuklz70 Год назад

@@davehimlin2374 I would not if its has been chemically treated. Did you see his newer video this month, where he reclaimed a pallet?

@ASSOL3 7 месяцев назад

Almost time for that 1 year follow up! Can't wait to see it!@@jamesprigioni

@etet4536 Год назад

I love how you always try something new and share your ideas with us. The bed is stunning, can't wait to see it full of plants!

@spencer_wheeler Год назад

Looks like there are Cedar picket fence at Lowe’s for $3.97 for a 6 ft picket. Even though it’s only 5/8 thick, I might try this and cut it down to a 4x4 ft bed for herbs! Could be a cost effective way to achieve a similar look and build one a smaller scale Thanks for the great idea!

@gremlin282 Год назад

I had some last about 4-5 years before i moved away and they still felt pretty solid. Even sitting on pretty wet Southeast Tx soil the entire time.

@lees7340 Год назад

I have the cedar picket fence raised bed lasted me about 10 years now. I do have to replace the bottom part that come in contact with the ground every 3-4 years coz those rotted first. Now I might try this burning technique with the picket fence.

@GCaF Год назад

We've been doing this in rural areas to protect wood against the elements for quite some years now. The technique I grew up with was putting the wood/stomps/planks directly into a fire - and pay attention!! to ONLY char them and not burn. But blow torches were rare and harder to find (in some areas they still are) - but I can vouch that with proper supervision having a yard fire to do this is fine also. Might not be as uniform, but the effects are virtually the same.

@Rick-the-Swift Год назад

❤

@Kimipu Год назад

Wow! The goth (lol) raised beds look fantastic 😍 On the point of price - The first 4 raised beds I put in are cedar and still look basically brand new after 6+ upper midwest winters. I've slowly added a couple pine ones each year and those are starting to look rough. My point being, ~$300 may seem kinda steep (I'm cheap) , but even my untreated cedar is pushing a decade so I'd imagine cedar after shou sugi ban & that other treatment should last quite a while. That $300 would be relative peanuts, if you can do the up front cost of course. I've been wanting to try this and you made it look so easy but I'm a little too clumsy for a flamthrower sooo maybe not quite yet😅

@tomst9417 Год назад

Excellent work James! Two years ago when I decided to build raised beds in my vegetable garden I purchased 2 x 10' Southern Yellow pine and then scorched all sides as you did , then coated it with the same product you used. Going in to year three and so far they are holding up well with no fungus growing on the wood and no rot. I really like the look of the charred wood.

@wafwaffle1819 Год назад

Thank you for your always enthusiastic videos, I'm far from Jersey but one day we hope to follow in your footsteps and make a home garden here in sunny Florida.

@mistyme7 Год назад

I made a raised bed just like yours several years ago, using quality fence boards from Home Depot. However, it only lasted about 3 years as it rotted from the inside. Hopefully the added charring and finish will make yours last much longer than mine did.

@punisher6 Год назад

I actually have those type of torches and have heard of this wood burning technique but never would have thought of this. That came out real nice man I may have to replicate this thanks!

@laurielangley2306 Год назад

Love this technique! My son did his entire deck that way. (Took him forever!), but worth it!

@jamesprigioni Год назад

That's a great idea! It may take a bit of time, but its supposed to last a long time. So me and Tuck think it will be worth it. 😁

@rhondacharlett8216 Год назад

I know you braced the corners and sides on the outside but no cross boards on the inside. The boards are very thin so I would worry about the weight of the soil making the side boards bow out over time. Aside from that concern ... it is a beautiful looking raised bed.

@karens3670 Год назад

A great video with such a thorough explanation and demonstration. I really appreciate your valuable channel and your enthusiasm and all the good recommendations that you give. Thanks to you and Tuck!!💕

@chrisconnell8523 Год назад

Have done this for my raised beds with pine/random Lowe's white wood. Works just fine, obviously looks a bit different but I think part of the charm is how the flames bring out the individual characteristics of the pieces of wood you selected. Also I've used the Milk Paint pure tung + with citrus solvent (rather than the outdoor treatment you got from them) and I think it works just fine too for longevity.

@resourcefulgirl Год назад

I did have one question, is this technique used on just the outside or also the inside of the raised bed if you're growing veggies?

@ausfoodgarden Год назад

@@resourcefulgirl You'd do this inside and out and make sure the edges are done too.

@resourcefulgirl Год назад

@@ausfoodgarden Thanks Gerry!!

@justinbrison112 Год назад

Funny to see this video pop up. I am planning on doing this technique on my new raised beds this year. I will be using locally sawn hemlock and cedar to do a comparison on longevity. As always a great video and looking forward to the new gardening season

@TallTrash Год назад

Super cool but getting really expensive mad quick. Would pass but love to see it

@monkeybarmonkeyman Год назад

Those prices are like insane... wow. But I sure am impressed with the results. Wow.

@keithjohnson4242 Год назад

Love the video, James! Just a warning to others trying the Outdoor Defense Oil 4:35: this stuff has a very strong citrus smell and is corrosive. I left it in a small plastic container overnight after applying one coat and the next morning found it melted through and the oil had spilled. If you're going to use it, find a proper container (unfortunately the product does not list recommendations for storage, at least not that I saw) and when applying try to keep a nice distance from your home. I did it in my garage since it's been raining heavily in my area and now my garage / house reeks of citrus. I'm sure I'll survive, but just wanted to give folks a heads up 😊.

@coast2coast00 Год назад

Reading the SDS for it, it is just 50% tung oil, 50% pine oil, and 3% zinc oxide. It also says never to store it in anything but the original container. I'm guessing the terpines (Limonene) from the pine oil are eating the plastic, so glass would be safe.

@tc9459 Год назад

I really like the bed! I think I might try it with larger plank pine. Glad to see Tuck and you back in action!

@jackzampella5758 Год назад

Great video, James. I wish I had seen this video a few years ago when I built my raised beds. You're right. It does look great! Thanks for the instructive video.

@BGP369 Год назад

Here in Japan, the 2 most common woods used are Sugi (very similar to Pine) and Hinoki (a Cypress wood). This is because after WW2 most of the other species had burned and the government at the time decided to spread these 2 species in reforestation projects. Hinoki is a nice wood but both Sugi and Hinoki are very soft, so not the greatest for various applications. Imported wood is prohibitively expensive, so we use what we have. I have yet to find a supplier of Oak or Walnut that is priced sanely.

@Rick-the-Swift Год назад

It is sad that more species weren't implemented as a regrowth strategy. Hopefully others can learn from your government's mistakes. Here in the US we are at a brink, in my opinion, and what we do and allow from here on out may be a "make or break" moment for us as deforestation and mining are at an all time high, while conservation efforts are at an all time low. More people (ordinary citizens) in both cultures should get involved and do what is right for the land/ecosystem by paying close attention to nature and helping her to heal.

@BGP369 Год назад

@@Rick-the-Swift only problem is how long it takes to grow hardwood. Capitalist countries are generally not that long term minded.

@WEFAT13YQUE Год назад

You make gardening look like it is, a skill, which it is. Good luck and Keep on Growing 👍

@SpartanX317 Год назад

With the way you did the corners you could've easily hidden all the screws by attaching the cap corners through the inside or by, at the very least use black coated screws or black paint for a better look

@Wicked_urban_garden Год назад

It looks amazing James. You have great carpentry skills

@shellisspace Год назад

Those are beautiful! I look forward to seeing how they age. I am not a fan of the weathered gray wood gets so I use metal beds, but this I think I could get behind.

@gremlin282 Год назад

Cedar fence pickets cost about $3 a piece in here Tx. That's what i usually use for my raised beds. It's naturally kinda resistant to a lot of bugs. In my experience even the cheap fence post last longer then most of the other woods i have used.

@matthewhall9692 Год назад

I made the same mistake as the guy in the video and bought some expensive cedar planks in the project lumber isle that charged you by the foot. Weeks later I was back to Lowe's to look for some landscaping borders and I saw that they have cedar fence pickets that are a couple bucks a piece. Not only are they basically the same dimensions as the cedar I bought previously (except for the pointed picket end) but it was basically the same quality cedar, many of which had better looking color and grain.

@chasinglife43 Год назад

Thank you for sharing your experience / mistake so that others can learn room it too. I'm going too too take a look at the fence pickets tomorrow. I was thinking that this was not going to be in the budget this year but knowing that the fence pickets were so affordable makes this an option. Thank you!

@BGP369 Год назад

A couple tips for such raised bed longevity. Raise it up a bit on rocks or bricks slightly above ground. Add some non Galvium (Galvanized is ok, zinc coated is best) sheet to the inside, using elbow sheets in the corners to separate the dirt from the wood. When placing the sheet metal, cut it slightly longer than the height of the bed, so that the metal goes into the ground slightly, to prevent dirt errosion (because the bed is raised up on bricks slightly). You will find your wood lasts several years longer.

@jacksoner8053 Год назад

I use this method on my pine wood raised beds. I go with 2" x 12" x 12' boards which run about $24 a piece at Lowes. My beds are only a foot deep, but I have never found any annual plants that needed to expand down beyond that. It also saves money on wood and soil, which costs a small fortune these days. - Great looking beds though, I like the look of those support pieces.

@GSMMW Год назад

That came out real nice James. Nice job.

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Thanks!

@mikechmarnakis2103 Год назад

Maybe you can try make 3-4 with different wood and compared thru time and see how they hold NJ weather

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Yup! I have a standard common lumber for bed. One for bed sealed with linseed oil, and this cedar bed now. Plus I have steel raised beds, and one made out of pallets

@Bubbles-n-Bitches Год назад

What a great video! I love how you break down every step!

@launsoulblade3946 Год назад

This inspired me to buy the supplies for a couple raised beds. 1 is a Christmas gift for a family member that I had been struggling to find the right materials to build it out of. I found Red Cedar deck boards for 8.99 on sale and rebate at Menards, the sale ended today so I ran to get them. Going to put them together soon.

@StoneyVision Год назад

Nice James you the gardening genius 💚

@nightrunner14 Год назад

From fellow Jersey Goomba that relocated to the South.... GREAT VIDEO! Having gone WFPB back in 2015, I got my health & my whole life back. I am now retired and am having a TON of fun gardening with my two young sons. We watch your videos together and are HUGE Tuck fans! It's been a while & would like another Tuck update. Keep up the INCREDIBLE job in sharing your vast knowledge & experience!

@jperin001 Год назад

Looks very nice! Keep us posted on its longevity. Hi Tuck!

@MySelfReliance Год назад

Looks familiar :)

@ВладимирИВиктория-ф9э Год назад

Благодарю за видео! Надеюсь, можно перевести мой текст автопереводчиком) Мы также сделали такие грядки и теплицу из обожженного дерева. По прошествии 3 лет они стали из темнокоричневых светлосерыми но все равно красивыми) Можно обжигать гораздо быстрее: складывать доски треугольником, с небольшим расстоянием для горелки на вершине, и вести горелку вдоль внутри треугольника. Так вы будете увеличивать интенсивность огня и скорость обработки и уменьшать расход газа. И еще одно замечание: доски довольно тонкие для высоких грядок, у нас их земля раздвинула. Нужны доски минимум 2х4 Но результат очень красивый!

@jerseygirl5486 Год назад

Someone I know did their deck like this and it was absolutely stunning.

@allonesame6467 Год назад

Wonderful Innovation! Thank you for sharing your awesome build!

@fletchybabe6172 Год назад

The oil won't be absorbed as you've sealed the wood by scorching it but it will give a nice subtle sheen and add a water resistance for a while, I have used this technique before but I don't use the oil as it's not needed but I could 😁🌱☀️

@jenniemondragon6423 7 месяцев назад

Do you think there would there be any benefit to treating the boards with the oil first and then scorching them?

@amen7692 6 месяцев назад

the oil would probably burn and evaporate, just use it after @@jenniemondragon6423

@maxx620s Год назад

Any issues with bowing in the middle from the weight of the soil? Id imagine a simple brace in the middle might help if it is bowing. Looks fantastic

@mathewpennington7049 Год назад

I use logs and do Sho Sugi Bahn to keep them lasting. Locust trees last a long time and way longer than oak or pine.

@ShaneLovesGardening Год назад

Well we know what James has been doing all winter….MAKING VIDEOS! LETS GO!

@PhilippTimokhin Год назад

Very nice, thank you James. I recently milled couple cedar tress in order to make my new raised garden beds. I was researching on how to make sure these cedar boards will last me a long time and keep it cost effective! And then you come out with this video! Thanks!!

@jcoats5529 Год назад

Wow! In Vancouver a 2x6x8 is $27 I thought that was expensive. You should also use stainless steel screws in cedar. Anything else will corrode

@simplifygardening Год назад

Great video I used to do this a long time ag with my old garden. and I'm slowly adding more raised beds so might be time to revive its method. brill stuff James

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Thanks Tony! It was fun to do as well! 😁

@lupinsensei Год назад

I’ve used this technique for various projects for the past few years. Raised beds, hiking staffs, bamboo planters etc. I’ve used pine due to cost…it’s somewhat sap heavy but a good trick is to wipe that sap across the panels whilst it’s still molten (take care and be well gloved!!) it hardens like glass and provides that extra touch of waterproofing. If you’re lucky enough to have bamboo at hand (I’m based in kyoto city so there’s an abundance of bamboo forests) the sap itself is all the waterproofing you’ll need. Not ideal for raised beds but perfect for long planters.

@teribelleau137 Год назад

It's beautiful James! What zone are you in? Love your videos ❤

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Thanks Teri! I’m in zone 7a 😁

@malo8631 Год назад

Very cool way to treat lumber. I'd suggest that after wiping excess oil with rags, oil soaked rags should be safely disposed of because of the chance of spontaneous combustion. It's a real danger that I've learned of the hard way . Cheers.

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Good info. Thanks for sharing that

@marshallartist2012 Год назад

Awesome brother your joy and excitement is contagious 💚🙏 bless you

@Grow_with_Michael Год назад

Wow! 🤩 Thanks for sharing! Such a striking look! Definitely want to get some of these beds into the garden!

@MK-si7kq Год назад

I am 100% doing this x 6 However, I just checked the price of Cedar planking at Home Depot and it is WAY less expensive that $26 per 8 foot section. I can get a 1.25 inch + 6 inch plank for less than $10. This project just got even sexier

@michaelgusovsky Год назад

Excellent info, and looks good. But, how much added life do you get from charring, compared to just covering the boards in oil? I've been wanting to build raised beds but not sure about lifespan, and getting a torch and propane seems to be a fair bit more effort and cost, is it worth it?

@cheeseymccheese7249 Год назад

The gold headed screws really bring it together

@lindabuchan5855 Год назад

I have raised beds that height too, love the way you done the corners, what an amazing finish 👍

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Thanks Linda!

@cheyneturbyfill4727 5 месяцев назад

Learned an interesting fact today, my wife and I were wondering why barns were traditionally painted red and learned that farmers would mix tung oil and blood from their slaughters. The iron in the blood helped to prevent mold growth which prolonged the life of the barn. Interesting how old techniques were the best but all but forgotten

@jenniferwall5265 Год назад

This looks gorgeous! How do you level out the raised bed? I have a bit of an angel where I'm putting mine.

@jenniferwall5265 Год назад

Angle not 😇

@avopia4925 Год назад

Awesome dude 🤘🏽 been watching a cpl years n yr doing great 👍🏽💖💖

@Keith.Zielinski Год назад

Looks awesome! Thank you for the recommendation for an alternative to boiled linseed oil, mildew in a humid summer climate had me questioning if I should use it. I recently watched the pallet raised bed and I am gonna utilize your recent technique on untreated pallet pine wood. Please don't forget to add an affiliate link for the Outdoor Defense Oil, cannot wait to try this!

@FreeCanadian76 Год назад

Did this for the siding of my garage. Love the look. Great vid again sir! (no center brace needed for bowing??)

@lurklingX Год назад

oh, that vertical clamping.... that might be helpful even for my 2 tier board bed i'm about to build.

@jackantwon9639 Год назад

Awesome job! I've been wanting to try that

@katiedc8239 Год назад

Beautiful! Like a treasure chest of garden goodies! But why does burning it make the wood last longer?

@dispmonk Год назад

I’ve been meaning to do this forever. Looks good. However you’re not doing it the traditional way.

@daniellekoenig4415 Год назад

Very nice! You must have done kind of building background. Nice bed!!!

@resourcefulgirl Год назад

Tuck did such a nice job on the raised bed. Lol!! Looks beautiful. I have a truckload of cedar because it was a close out so I rented a truck. 10.40 per board and they are 2x6x8. I'm going to do it!!!

@DabblinDawn Год назад

Absolutely beautiful! I’m rebuilding one of my raised garden beds which has almost completely degraded over 7 years of use. I >really< want to try this method of wood preservation. Thanks for sharing your tutorial!

@bobg5362 Год назад

That insistence on a perfect cut for a garden bed board makes me think you have some German in you, paisano.

@nathanlivingston3341 Год назад

Thank you for your hard work. I love your channel. I was wondering if you have ever used any other materials for constructing raised garden beds (I've seen some people using composite decking, but I'm not sure if it's suitable for a vegetable garden)?

@99megrob Год назад

That looks great. What a great garden bed.

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Thanks Michelle! It was fun working with the garden torch too hahah

@tamararoberts9307 Год назад

It's beautiful ❤

@GingerKral Год назад

Thank you, James. The bed looks amazing!

@pescatariangardener Год назад

Beautiful raised bed that's gonna last ty for sharing.

@grantking8175 Год назад

That looks amazing…well done! And thanks for all the great videos to help us amateurs out…I love them! 🤙🏽

@5kidslater1 Год назад

So why does burning the wood make it last longer? Sure is pretty!

@bryanst.martin7134 Год назад

Pallets are often made with oak, so people using recycled pallets could toast their wood too.

@kheventplanner Год назад

I'm trying to get my husband to put burned wood flooring in my kitchen buy I may have changed my mind for that price lol. That turned out so beautiful!

@JoseLopez-cz3kc 11 месяцев назад

I got an untreated heat pellet. Do U happen 2 know how I can heat treat it so I can use it 4 a, raised bed??

@WolfCatBirdPigMan Год назад

Cedar is so expensive right now. A good thing to look for are cedar pickets. They are thinner but MUCH cheaper to build a bed out of. Home Depot sells packs of cedar pickets for a reasonable price.

@jeremybyington Год назад

That is a great point. James said he paid $11 for those 1x6-8ft but Lowes in my area has a 5/8x6-6ft dog-eared picket for $4. That should hold up fine with some bracing.

@WolfCatBirdPigMan Год назад

@@jeremybyington where would you brace it at? I built some and trying to figure out where bracing would look good/make sense

@xmobile. Год назад

Very cool. I've seen the technique many times before, but never thought about it for garden beds. It looks stunning and I'm sure filled with lush green veggies it'll look even better! Happy Gardening from PA!

@PleasantPrickles Год назад

It looks gorgeous! Built to last! Thanks for breaking down the process! 🌱🌱🌱😃

@lindaseel9986 Год назад

James, your gardening skills are amazing! This raised bed highlights your woodworking skills too! Yes, cedar is expensive, but well worth it for longevity. Just gorgeous!

@sunnysmilessunshine4060 Год назад

You're right, it is beautiful. Thank you for showing all that you did in Detail, very helpful!

@kaosbboi Год назад

Great job. Only thing I would add is a 4"-6" inch ledge. We made a 3*9 similar to this and wanted a ledge to sit on while working in the bed. Your came out great! I like the how the yellow deck screws pop against the charred wood.

@jrive075 Год назад

I’m sitting on a lot of cedar I bought for four 4x8 beds but wasn’t sure how I was goin to do it… this is it! Thank you!!!

@pamelamayfield4887 Год назад

Nice ,I found some pallets at our local a/c supply company that were 9 ft . Broke them down and made 8by 4 beds whit the same charring of the wood .

@jamesprigioni Год назад

Let’s Gooo

@hunakosdem Год назад

Do you have some estimate how much gas did you use during the charring of this bed?

@jamesprigioni Год назад

It wasn’t a lot Demeter. To fill the who tank was $20, and the tank was still heavy by the time I finished it.

@hunakosdem Год назад

@@jamesprigioni OK, thanks for the info. So I guess it doesn't need too much of burning compared to how much in a tank you can have.

@deirdreberger1363 Год назад

I am looking forward to seeing your trees and veggies fill in your food garden.

@ronc7743 Год назад

Will this work on your pallet boxes?

@debyaka Год назад

You spend a ridiculous amount of money on beds, especially the birdy ones, Just recycle some old timber and make them for free

@jamesprigioni Год назад

I have done that with pallets. I love building the beds and trying new stuff out. I find it to be fun

@megfigshk2689 Год назад

I have also built many raised beds, but I have always protected them with a pond liner on the inside.Your raised bed looks great 👍

@anitanolan9804 Год назад

James -- you didn't put down hardware cloth to keep the voles out! I'll always do that going forward. The bed looks beautiful.

@cltinturkey Год назад

Yes, a thousand times yes! I built and installed a new raised bed. For half the season last year it was fabulous, then it became home for tons of mice and voles. At season end, I removed about 10 inches of soil, put in rat wire (hardware cloth with very small openings) and replaced and enriched the soil. Terrible job after the fact, but I hope it works for this season to keep critters out!

@KrazyKajun602 Год назад

Can you explain why wirebrush the boards after flaming them? It seems that defeats the purpose of charing them? Another reason of charing is to prevent termites eating them .

@johnwilliamson4511 Год назад

I agree. However, built a similar bed @ five years ago of natural southern yellow pine. Burnt once brushed off char, burnt again and left on char. Built bed added soil then brushed and hosed off char. Did not add sealant. Still pretty solid. In future will use boiled linseed oil or this sealant and staple commercial grade lawn fabric prior to adding soil.

@dranamarie Год назад

You are always stepping it up a notch! What a beautiful raised bed ! ❤

@eklectiktoni Год назад

That bed looks awesome! I've heard that tung oil is highly resistant to decay so the combo of it with the Japanese charring treatment should protect that bed for years and years.