USMC Harriers on HMS Illustrious 

That claim somewhat surprises me. Granted on paper some of the Argentine planes would seem to be capable of outperforming the Harriers. The Harriers being a bit slow for their era due to the SVTOL. But the Brits had far better sensors and avionics. Far better fighter direction. Far better training and coordination. And much better air to air Missiles.

That’s why he said almost

@@andrewtaylor940 some were lost to ground fire, but 23 to 0 to the sea harrier in air-to-air combat in the Falklands.

twist twisted Absolutely right, I couldn’t agree more with you.

I believe the US Navy prefers to work with the French navy when they are talking about fleet air arm.

@@mayo250 Not anymore thats for damn sure lol. Ultimately France always wants to act solely and not as a team, its why you saw French ship to air missiles shooting down some British aircraft during the Falklands war... always forgetting that were supposed to be a fuckin team y'know?

if it came to a choice between ireland and uk the americans would choose the irish and probably also israel ahead of uk lol

Yep, operational procedures and so-on will be very different.

I bet when he heard the word wank it really threw him off balance. 😂

He also seems to forget that US Navy pilots and aircraft operated off the HMS Victorious, then quasi rebranded the USS Robin, in the South Pacific for a good chunk of 1943. When she was loaned to the US until Enterprise was quickly repaired and the Essex’s started launching.

Hence his _nickname_ , Never-Knew-It Hewitt. Or F***wit to the less polite.

It also hasn’t aged well as the new HMS Queen Elizabeth did a ton of her work ups to get crew and ship prepared for operating the F-35B’s using a US Marine squadron. She similarly spent some time operating off Virginia. She only just took final delivery of her own native F-35 squadrons recently.

It wasn’t 15 to 1 the british didn’t lose any harriers in air to air combat

We use the same nautical term (Head), although there’s an ‘s’ added on to the Brit version)!

@@torch8922 You mean _shed_ .

@@Twirlyhead: guessing that you’ve not been on a British carrier. They have regular toilets, of the flushing variety for everybody onboard! They also have duty free bars for officers and NCOs and daily beer rations for the junior ratings. They also cook the food, even for the Marines!

Maybe couldn't understand jackspeak? Royal navy slang. But i mean you could still have a conversation just wouldn't get a few words

i think its the first time American aircraft were abroad a British carriers and under British command whereas when HMS victorious was loaned to the US the carrier was under US command similar to how even though HMS Queen Elizabeth's aircraft and strike group is comprised of multiple nations all the aircraft and warships are under British command just so if war breaks out those nations cant call their aircraft and warships back home as for the duration of the deployment they are all technically classed as British aircraft and British warships

I’ve never understood why they got rid of all three carriers? Especially after the lessons of the Falklands. Britain needs the ability to project power. Both to protect its widespread interests, aid its allies, and keep the sea lanes safe for trade that is so critical for an island nation. It’s great to see the Brits finally getting back in the game with the QUeen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales. They seem amazing ships. And we American friends are thrilled to have been asked and able to help get them into service by aiding in training the ships crews on F-35B operations using our Marine Squadrons, while your British flight Crews train up on and take delivery of their own F-35b’s. And in a strange example of how one good deed can spread. That US Marine F-35B training squadron that has been working with the Queen Elizabeth. They did one tour on the QE to help get the ships crew ready for how to handle the plains, off the Virginia coast. From there that Marine training Squadron slid over to start doing shake down and work ups on the new USS America. The US’s new Light Carrier/assault ship class. As it commissioned they got sent back to QE for some final training exercises as she gets her own plains and fliers. After which she will be commissioned and operational. Next they goto the USS America’s sister the USS Tripoli. After that they either go back to England to help with the Prince of Wales, or to Japan to help convert the JSNDF Izumi and Kaga to F-35B Strike Carriers. With a possible next stop off in Australia to investigate doing the same to HMAS Canberra ad her sister. There sure seem to be a lot of “Harrier Carriers” suddenly popping up. (And a helluva lot of business for Lockheed.

You should read "sea harrier over the Falklands." Fascinating.

@@andrewtaylor940 STOVL carriers are popular because, compared to a supercarrier, they're cheaper to build and operate and don't require as much manpower as a supercarrier. Most countries could not afford, maintain and staff even a single ship from the Nimitz or the upcoming Gerald Ford class.

Likin' the comment, but lovin' the username.

I cant say about that deployment but I can talk about the us marines on HMS Queen Elizabeth and they all seemed to like the ramp and actaully would like one a few of of their amphibious assault ships since the ramp allows them to take of with a full tank of fuel or full payload

@@jamesevans938 "since the ramp allows them to take of with a full tank of fuel or full payload" The Marines already operate F-35Bs in Beast Mode from the decks of the LHAs/LHDs without a ski jump. A ski jump takes up deck landing spots which would negatively impact the ACE of a MEU.

@@AA-xo9uw the us marines simply take some internal weapons and mount them on the outside on the current ships that the us marines use the F35's on can only carry 20 f35's now compare this to the other ships that us marines have used and probably will continue to use as much as they can such as the Queen Elizabeth class carriers which let me remind you was fully designed for the F35B on a standard deployment it will have 40 F35's on board with a theoretical surge capacity of 72 aircraft im not saying they should retrofit US Navy LHD's with ski jumps because it would negatively impact the marines since yes space will be taken up any ship with with a ski jump should be designed from the ground up to accommodate a ski jump

The UK invented the dam thing we went to war in 1982 with them

😂 yeah we sold the designs to you. They got cut in 2010 i think to be replaced with the F35

"Two countries divided by a common language... and a fucking great big ocean, thank Christ!" Al Murray

nasha thedog I’m a retired Harrier pilot. He is referring to the different terms used by each force. Even US tactical pilots from different services use different terminology. Air Force pilots and Marine/ Navy bubbas make fun of each other for their differences. But they are all good guys! We had a very experienced Brit come through as an exchange pilot and his only issue was learning our terms and SOP’s. He could fly the heck out of the aircraft!!!

Michael Jackson QE2??? That’s a cruise ship! You mean QE only

Why the UK is buying F35's is a mystery to me. Reports from the US state that this aircraft is a very expensive and under performing aircraft.

Terence Lewis The F35B has not had any problems and that can be proved as British pilots in British F35B’s haven’t had any problems and have been flying regularly in America. All is going well for the B variant.

Tristram Randall And who do you work for?

Terence Lewis Not relevant who I work for. It’s all in the public domain.

however ski jumps make sense for STOVl aircraft because it allows the jets to take of with more fuel or more payload

@@jamesevans938 I know, I wasn't questioning the brilliance of that particular Royal Navy invention. My point was that the decision to end fixed-wing naval aviation wasn't made by the RN as the narration implies - had they been left to their own devices, Ark Royal, Eagle and Victorious would have been replaced by a new class of modern CATOBAR carriers (CVA-01).

Maybe he talked about the millitary language. Commands etc...

@@ikelevermann1491 yes indeed, perhaps the military terminology used and not the spoken word. Good call

I think he meant Terminology barrier.

I think he meant emoji!

Two countries separated by a common language :-)

Christofer Riche we use ski jumps becuase it increases the take off weight for (in this case) the harriers, but I'm not sure why the U.S. don't for the harrier or aren't for the new f35b.

Quasar _33b : the sky jump it's a great idea. I'm surprised the US had never used it. But the Marine Corps version of the F-35 has the rear exhaust nozzle that can be angled dwnwards + the lift fan directly behind the pilot. Maybe that's why we don't use it. Just a guess though.

Christofer Riche the royal navy is also getting the f35b and our carriers have ski jumps, but i think we are using a combination of angling the nozzles and the jump. From what I can find the range of the f35b is calculated from runway takeoffs not carrier takeoffs so the range for USMC f35bs will be shorter due to the flat decks unlike the ski jump which should extend the range, but it might be down to doctrine and funding becuase you have cat and trap carriers which can launch f35c which leaves the f35b to ground attack and the f35c to CAP and heavy combat roles, whereas the royal navy has to make do and make the f35b do both due to funding.

Quasar _33b : 👍

impel , it because the US nary did not come up with the idea so the won't us it .

Quadrant44 a missile helps but doesn’t mean it’s what wins a dogfight otherwise the UK could have put the sidewinder on the spitfire and won

American accents and words are closer to 1700s British English than those of Britain. It's the UK that decided to quit pronouncing Rs to sound more like the French.

"I also note that there is no comment from any American who speaks, to the fact that the they are flying a British designed and developed aircraft," The Harrier IIs in the video was a design that had been abandoned by the Brits from 1975 - 1981 with the heavy lifting accomplished by McDonnell Douglas not the UK. "the only foreign built aircraft ever used by US forces." de Havilland Caribou, the license built Martin B-57 Canberra, Aerospatiale Dolphin, Dassault Falcon ... I notice that people like you never mention that 75% of the funding for the Pegasus was provided by the US taxpayers in 1958 via the MWDP, this after the British government refused to fund it. Nor do you ever mention all of the money that the US taxpayer provided via the MWDP to develop the original Harrier. Is that due to a lack of gratitude or ignorance or arrogance on your part?