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UTV Snow Plowing | Don't Make this Mistake! 

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UTV Snow Plowing is a lot of fun…until you make a mistake and break it! This video is all about showing you how to quickly fix a common mistake that can happen when plowing snow.
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I’m not going to lie, when it starts snowing out I get a little excited about hopping in the Side by Side for some snow removal time behind the wheel. Plus there is the added benefit that I get to say I'm “working” around the house while doing it…after all, it has to get done.
Well over the course of just a few times testing the Denali County Plow system, we managed to break it. The worst part is it was a totally avoidable issue (although there is a small flaw with the plow, but that’s for another video). So as we were out working that UTV snow removal process we love so much we managed to pull the winch up to high…multiple times.
The problem when you pull a winch too high when a plow is attached (again multiple times) something has to give, and its generally not the winch. So over time we slowly managed to pull the winch plate away from the plow until it had enough and just popped right off the plow base. This can be a common mistake for someone new to plowing…and apparently us. So one of the goals of this video is to bring awareness to this so hopefully, you can avoid it in the future. The other goal is to show you how to fix the problem in case you do accidentally make the same mistake on a plow system.
This fix should be similar rather you made the mistake when using your ATV for snow removal just the same as if you were using a UTV. It should also be rather similar for different types of plows. So I hope if you are here because you made this mistake while removing snow it is helpful, whether you have an ATV or a side by side or while using an entirely different plow system.
I hope you enjoy this video and it gets you back to that ATV snow removal process fast so you can continue to have fun...I mean get the chores done!

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@Rex-qo3pb
@Rex-qo3pb 3 года назад
Lock washers do not go on flat washers they go on the nut to keep the nut from backing off
@angels814ever
@angels814ever 5 лет назад
The lockwasher goes on the nut side! =0
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Sure does 😆 one of those mistakes you make and then your like crap... Well I guess everyone saw me do that! 😂
@Hammerjockeyrepair
@Hammerjockeyrepair 3 года назад
and no need when using locking nuts
@badgerfan2548
@badgerfan2548 3 года назад
"Locking washers" don't work anyways. Blue loctite or nylon locking nuts are much better options.
@wachis1969
@wachis1969 3 года назад
I would use the correct size hardware.......
@theautodidacticman_
@theautodidacticman_ 3 года назад
I’m glad he got the nuts hang low part lol. Always place your nuts on the underside so if they were ever to work loose and fall off you would still have your bolts holding things in place.
@dannyscobee6530
@dannyscobee6530 3 года назад
Masonry drill bit, 3” long bolts to go through 1/2 material, lock washers go under nut or use nylock nuts, 🤯
@tomsimkins2156
@tomsimkins2156 2 года назад
First things I noticed too.
@jeffstieren4474
@jeffstieren4474 4 года назад
They actually have a cable stopper to put on the cable to stop it before creating a issue like you had. Also, the lock washer belongs on the side with the nut and a nice weld around the bracket will keep it together for much longer.
@dustinr95
@dustinr95 4 года назад
Its supposed to use weak bolts. That way if you raise it to high you break the bolts rather than the frame or winch cable
@tomclose6643
@tomclose6643 4 года назад
good point
@duramaxallison2535
@duramaxallison2535 3 года назад
They should name those books something to indicate that they're designed to break or sheer. I know, sheer pins.
@petercalabrese4102
@petercalabrese4102 2 года назад
lock washers go on the nut side
@gregstruckingweatherandroa1414
@gregstruckingweatherandroa1414 2 года назад
@@petercalabrese4102 You beat me to the comment.👍👍👍👍👍
@RJS1966USMC
@RJS1966USMC 2 года назад
In addition to the note "Lock washers go on the nut side", you should also use a large flat washer on BOTH sides. As a bonus, spray the finished fasteners with silicone or other rust inhibitor of choice. You'll thank yourself some day.
@es47
@es47 4 года назад
Wow first time i ever seen steel get (hammer) drilled and ffs i think that was a concrete bit too lol
@schrankm
@schrankm 4 года назад
I was going to say the same. I normally don't use my hammer drill for drilling holes in steel. I do believe that is a masonry bit.
@otorotoro
@otorotoro 3 года назад
@@schrankm This guy knows just enough to be dangerous LOL
@schmegmann
@schmegmann 3 года назад
not really...
@michaellesniak2274
@michaellesniak2274 3 года назад
Came to the comment section for this.
@steveh7085
@steveh7085 3 года назад
Buddy is a toolbox
@bencrawford8219
@bencrawford8219 2 года назад
I love your honesty about making a mistake!! You probably kept me from making the same mistake!!😊 Thank you!
@thomasme9676
@thomasme9676 3 года назад
Now with the bolts heavier we will bend something harder to fix !!!
@grampabadger
@grampabadger 3 года назад
I found the same issue on an old Kawaski Mule. I engineered the winch so the cable would go up and around a pulley that is about a foot above the highest the plow will lift. That way the plow can reach its maximum height and I can see the winch cable. Adding an extra pulley also allows the winch to lift the plow using only half the initial effort.
@Williamrobertkoller
@Williamrobertkoller 4 года назад
Lock washers go on the nut side. And a Hammer Drill, that is for concrete.
@chrisreid3155
@chrisreid3155 4 года назад
Bill Koller ya no kidding. What a jabroni
@SuperLilmedina
@SuperLilmedina 3 года назад
That's what I was thinking
@snakeplisken4119
@snakeplisken4119 3 года назад
@@chrisreid3155 wrong color
@xaviercorona9014
@xaviercorona9014 2 года назад
Second rookie mistake lmao
@orlandogonzalez795
@orlandogonzalez795 2 года назад
And that drill bit looked to me like a masonry bit.
@donabele1243
@donabele1243 4 года назад
Okay, I know this has all been said already and I'm late to the game...but I can't not comment: A hammer drill is for CONCRETE - not steel - that's a great way to destroy bits and create uneven holes in steel. Lock washers lock the NUT not the bolt and they a POOR job at that . Buy nylock nuts or use blue Loctite! That cable "stop" is worthless - it didn't even fit snugly on your cable. If you want to stop overstressing your winch and cable, install a wired contact switch. Be well, Don
@truthhurts3480
@truthhurts3480 4 года назад
Maybe your wife could come out to the shop and show you how to properly use tools and hardware
@TheTrinityProjectinc
@TheTrinityProjectinc 3 года назад
I love this...!!!
@georgeosborn3553
@georgeosborn3553 3 года назад
I liked how he used the ratchet & socket on the bolt & not the nut 👍 i know either way works
@snakeplisken4119
@snakeplisken4119 3 года назад
Your a smart arse
@beckyschwantes5287
@beckyschwantes5287 3 года назад
Wire a limit switch into the winch drive circuit. That is a good fix man. You are right, they skimped on the gauge of steel used. You made a good call on the locknuts and washers. (If it’s going to be vibrating constantly you need a lock washer or nut or both. You seem to have the wrong size lock washer on though...... it should be a nice slip fit .
@markg3305
@markg3305 Год назад
I'd argue that that little piece breaking off is much much better than losing any other components
@Fisherguy01
@Fisherguy01 3 года назад
Wow, seriously, you should sell your tools.
@mikeman230
@mikeman230 4 года назад
Use a snatch block to save your winch because of the angle. Also your cable will last less than one season because it constantly rolls on same spot. Use a rope winch cable.
@gab7157
@gab7157 Год назад
Throw a carabiner on the end . If you hold up too long the carabiner will flatten out. Throw a new on one 15 second fix. And that rope is awsome ita all I use
@alexbetancourt6378
@alexbetancourt6378 4 месяца назад
The mid western anger so funny!! Lol
@jeepjeff9131
@jeepjeff9131 2 года назад
When using lock washers they should go on the bolt next to the nut. The head of the bolt won't "walk" off but the nuts will work loose and drop off.
@gtloose8549
@gtloose8549 9 месяцев назад
Lol
@gregstruckingweatherandroa1414
@gregstruckingweatherandroa1414 2 года назад
Love it that you can make fun of your mistakes!!
@jbwhit29
@jbwhit29 4 года назад
You should consider putting a pulley in the setup to help reduce the strain on the winch. Did this for my warn plow system and it was awesome. Worked so much better
@robertheinkel6225
@robertheinkel6225 3 года назад
Not a bad idea, plus the travel speed would be cut in half.
@UBAYBE
@UBAYBE 2 года назад
Where would you hook it up?
@bryanbrowning5746
@bryanbrowning5746 Год назад
@@UBAYBE hook it right onto the plow, then run the cable hook back up to the rack on the machine. I recommend lubing the length of cable that makes contact with the fairlead and pulley with silicone grease #3. That reduces the friction, and keeps the cable from trying to walk up the sides of the pulley, and keeps it in the pulley groove. In the winter, there’s no dust and dirt to stick to the grease, so that’s not a problem.
@bpdp379
@bpdp379 5 месяцев назад
This is the Motoalliance Denali plow. They make a pulley system for it.
@quaddingsous
@quaddingsous 5 лет назад
LMAO - You are hilarious man!!! Great editing skills; poor mechanical skills - washers go on the nut side - hahaha - sorry buddy - I couldn't resist. Oh . . . . and one other thing you were wrong about . . . . this IS one of the most entertaining videos you've ever done (4:48). Thanx for sharin'! . . . . . . . . . . (still LMAO!) PS: we're not laughing at you, we're laughing with you.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Hahaha! Thanks man, I appreciate that. I am tracking the locking nuts. That was one of those things you realize and go "crap, I hope not too many people realize that I just did that!" 😂 Tha is again for the compliment, I appreciate that!
@mbg238
@mbg238 5 лет назад
Love your vids Quaddingsous.
@smokejumper0110
@smokejumper0110 4 года назад
Navigate Offroad was watching this going “that’s not how you use lock washers.”🤣
@kevingoodrich3050
@kevingoodrich3050 4 года назад
Yea I couldn't believe he put the lock washers on the wrong side
@shanevensel1788
@shanevensel1788 4 года назад
Quaddingsous Oo no...I was definitely laughing at him!! 😂
@edhasse1750
@edhasse1750 4 года назад
Agree with Quaddingsous. Washers should be on the bottom side to help distribute the stress. Also, an old learning thing from the Navy, bolts go from the bottom up, then if you lose the nut, the bolt goes too. As you have it, if the nut were to fall off, the bolt would remain and you may not know in time that you have an issue.
@benfarnham7626
@benfarnham7626 3 года назад
Also the nuts will be visible so that they may be noticed prior to falling off and corrected.
@Upracefan
@Upracefan 4 года назад
Oh my god, nothing like using washers that are for bolts twice that size. And a masonry bit for drilling steel, HACK!
@Hammerjockeyrepair
@Hammerjockeyrepair 3 года назад
right?!?! Ive done some hackery but this made me cringe
@waynebright6452
@waynebright6452 3 года назад
OK, so I'm not going to beat the dead horse about your mechanical skills, but a cable stop is a good idea, but here is a great idea so you don't make matters worse down the line: get an extension line for your winch to connect to the plow so you don't raise it to far and bend/break something else. I made mine the day I installed it because I foreseen the issue ahead of time. I raised the plow up once on the UTV, and placed blocks underneath to hold it at its high point. I then unhooked the winch and reeled it in. I then took two chain clevises and and attached them to the winch hook and the connection point on the plow. I measured between the two and cut a piece of chain to go between. the chain I had on hand made it so the cut piece was about 1/2" longer than my measurement, which also adds some breathing room when raising the plow. Attach the chain to the clevises, and your ready to go. There are aftermarket items such as roller extensions and actual cables that do the same thing, but it's just another way to do it yourself if you want to try to be handy.
@TonyTheTruckGuy
@TonyTheTruckGuy 3 года назад
That closer loop you temporarily used almost looks like it would be less strain on the plow. But probably more strain on the winch.
@kcatv9556
@kcatv9556 5 лет назад
Buddy this video was hilarious!! Nicely done short film!
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Thanks man, I appreciate that!!
@MetallicA29
@MetallicA29 5 лет назад
Dude...liked this video right way with the fact check skit!
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Hahahaha! Thanks man.
@CesarGarcia-hm6cd
@CesarGarcia-hm6cd 4 года назад
Never trust a guy that calls a bolt a screw. Just saying. I am out lol
@richardgonzalez5077
@richardgonzalez5077 3 года назад
Also never trust a guy that drives a cfmoto
@Ian-iu2tl
@Ian-iu2tl 2 года назад
Sorry. I disagree. As a machinist, anything with an external thread is a screw and all screws used to fasten things together are called threaded fasteners. Fussy...yes. LOL!!
@danmcgiveron6738
@danmcgiveron6738 Год назад
Lol! My exact thoughts.
@larryradelet1503
@larryradelet1503 4 года назад
Perfect,now you just got rid of the shear point so next time you can rip out the axle 😂
@MNJim1966
@MNJim1966 5 лет назад
Good stuff!
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Thanks, Jim!
@Broknex
@Broknex 5 лет назад
LOL Midwest anger! HAHAHA
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
😆
@armedfarm3429
@armedfarm3429 Год назад
Run the cable through a pulley on the plow then thread cable to a dead stop on the atv. Reduce the pull by 50%. I can't believe people don't do this. What a bunch of green horns LMAO🤣
@seeenuf
@seeenuf Год назад
good video. like the repair.
@EdwardMurray06
@EdwardMurray06 3 года назад
I returned my eagle plow (the plow in this video) because when I called the company to ask a question about a specific mount, the lady on the other end of the phone was over the top rude and angry from "hello". I ended up going with a full Kolpin High-rise pushtube, High-rise power angle unit, 66" poly plow blade and 3000lb winch on my Zforce 500. Lightweight and totally automatic.
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 4 года назад
Think I would raise the plow and then mount an atv fiberglass whip flag to the plow frame so that the flag pole touches the bumper. When you raise further the flag will fold forward as its bent by the bumper and let you know you have exceeded the lift angle. So in the down position the flag will start coming back as the plow is raised and then it will switch directions and bend forward.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 4 года назад
love the flagpole idea, thanks for that!
@JD73RD
@JD73RD 10 месяцев назад
Agree with some of the below comments. Washer on wrong side, put the bolt in upside down, weld the bracket right to the blade. Also though, did you just use a masonry bit on hammer to drill steel? Lol Like your content regardless.
@jtyler780
@jtyler780 3 года назад
You ain’t too bright boy
@davidnikulka1437
@davidnikulka1437 5 месяцев назад
Green Horn for sure . All that extra bolt length sticking out the bottom could scratch up someone's hard surfaces .
@robertodare7791
@robertodare7791 8 месяцев назад
The problem is simple physics. The angle of the cable is too far out so that you're pulling back against the plough instead of lifting it. That hook mount that you used to lift the blade to mount the other bracket actually gives you the proper lift angle(pretty much vertical & ideal). The other forward mount puts tremendous strain on the cable also so cable failure is eminent. How do I know this? Been there ..........done that.
@WaterWalker16
@WaterWalker16 3 года назад
You guys bolt things up funny there in the USA.
@snakeplisken4119
@snakeplisken4119 3 года назад
They have that measurement thing backward as well !
@silverthread7254
@silverthread7254 2 года назад
You should cinch the cable stopper up higher on the cable so that it will actually stop it where you need it too.
@louis5276
@louis5276 3 года назад
Yeah advice from someone who can't find the correct size washer for the bolt he is using. That's the ticket.
@aaronvangilder2499
@aaronvangilder2499 3 года назад
Also someone who uses a masonry bit for steel... dude isn't very competent..
@sirjacobanderson
@sirjacobanderson 3 года назад
@@aaronvangilder2499 he said “a hammer drill bit so it’ll go in easier” lmao has he never looked up bits that go through metal? And washers on the wrong side
@lonniepruitt5487
@lonniepruitt5487 2 года назад
Never seen someone put lock washers on bolt head end!😛
@lonniepruitt5487
@lonniepruitt5487 2 года назад
@@aaronvangilder2499 I thought I was seeing things..🤔
@hunterrice1494
@hunterrice1494 2 года назад
No one sponsors you because you're mechanically challenged......
@MountainAdventures1
@MountainAdventures1 5 лет назад
When I first got my plow, I noticed this was an obvious weak point in the setup. So I bought a weatherproof pin switch and mounted it so the plow shuts off the winch when it reaches max height. Has worked perfect for about 8 years now and doesn't get in the way during summer cruising. Also, running the cable directly to the plow causes it to lift too fast, the Warn plows use a snatchblock-type setup that halves the speed of the winch.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Thanks for the comment and feedback! Can I ask what type of pin switch you used? Is it attached to the plow bracket?
@pwarren1516
@pwarren1516 Год назад
Buy the snatch block that loops your winch rope back to the bumper. I have the same plow and I've abused the hell out of it for the last 2 years and haven't had this issue.
@michaelsudak6559
@michaelsudak6559 3 года назад
Wow, just wow. So much to see, so much to not repeat.
@curtiszurbrigg3492
@curtiszurbrigg3492 4 года назад
I just bought a kfi 72" for my ranger. You are best 5o remove the winch cable and use a short piece of tow strap in the winch. By the way..... hammer drill bit are for masonry jobs. 🙈
@jwills3242
@jwills3242 Год назад
Do you still like the KFI?
@curtiszurbrigg3492
@curtiszurbrigg3492 Год назад
@@jwills3242 yes, works great still. Still cant believe this guy used concrete bits to drill steel. Lol
@cmb7481
@cmb7481 2 года назад
Nuts up - good ball
@bellyacres7846
@bellyacres7846 Год назад
lock washers on the nut side. BUT I found that nylock nuts work a lot better. been running them on the truck plow several years & they just stay put (?) those were a very pleasant surprise. use nylock nuts on saws also and they dont vibrate loose - :) another posted to put the bolts from bottom up. [a good idea.] as the studs [nut end] drags and wears making disassembly tough without cutting them off. yeah the heads wear a bit, but can be reused. if your afraid of losing a bolt? tack weld to the frame to hod it in place. [just another idea to ponder]
@loachoh6a
@loachoh6a 3 года назад
I realize that what I’m writing here is not EXACTLY in parallel with this video. BUT HERE THIS: I bolted an HF WINCH ONTO THE FRONT OF MY KUBOTA GR-2100 LAWN TRACTOR ABOUT A YEAR AGO. NOW DISABLED, I can’t use my welder anymore and other equipment as well. So I had to BOLT IT ON A BRACKET THAT I MOUNTED ONTO THE FRONT OF MY MOWER WITHOUT USING ANY WELDING. AFTER MUCH SEARCHING FOR SOME GOOD MATERIAL THE BEST MATERIAL I FOUND WAS THREE PLATES THAT I PURCHASED AT HF. The PLATES WERE BEAUTIFUL. PAINTED IN POWDER COAT GRAY THAT MATCHED THE KUBOTA PERFECTLY, I WAS ABLE TO DRILL A COUPLE OF HOLES AND MAKE THE THREE PLATES WORK PERFECTLY AS MENTIONED. THEY COST $3.99 EACH AND I BOUGHT ONE FOR A SPARE. IT LOOKED FACTORY MADE!! SHUCKS, I KNOW IT DIDN’T COMPLY WITH THE VIDEO BUT I BET SOME FOLKS GET THE POINT! THANKS!!
@raymondj8768
@raymondj8768 3 года назад
HEY DOPEY THE LOCK WASHERS GO UNDER THE NUTS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
@stevearsenault4898
@stevearsenault4898 3 года назад
Dopey has lock nuts, lock washers unnecessary! Lol
@raymondj8768
@raymondj8768 3 года назад
@@stevearsenault4898 FKN FUNNY RITE HAHAHA
@Hypercube9
@Hypercube9 3 года назад
The problem with using a hammer drill is that it's actually like hitting the drill towards the metal with a hammer! Good for concrete, bad for metal. It's more likely to break a regular drill bit, so it's a good thing that you used what looks like a concrete bit with that drill but bad that you used that drill and bit on metal! What you might have been thinking of is an Impact driver. An impact driver uses the rotational energy imparted into a spinning weight to impact the bit and DRIVE it in a circle. So if you were using it to screw a screw into some hard wood it would help you out. Or if you needed to loosen a stuck bolt from your vehicle, the added torque from the impact driver would break the stuck part free. However, I can't tell from the video if you actually have a hammer drill or an impact driver, so this information is more of a general FYI than a comment on your specific tool use.
@WZH-pd4el
@WZH-pd4el 2 года назад
I've never seen anyone drill steel with a masonry bit before this video.
@birdhunter2754
@birdhunter2754 3 года назад
Should see the plow on mine. All welded up big time. Alot of new steel. Added
@rickterrill723
@rickterrill723 4 года назад
Your drill is in hammer mode.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 4 года назад
I was drilling through steel with a steel bit and having trouble. Threw it in hammer mode to get the job done. Is there an issue with that and steel I'm not tracking?
@jimshort9266
@jimshort9266 4 года назад
Navigate Offroad ... it will dull your drill bit. If it’s already giving you trouble then it is probably dull anyway so I guess you would have nothing to loose by hammering it.
@endurotruckererniedesjardins
@endurotruckererniedesjardins 3 года назад
For a cable stop i use a transport trailer suspension walking beam bushing. Very cheap
@paulhess8089
@paulhess8089 5 лет назад
There's something out there that's even better- maybe not cheap. I installed a magnetic fairlead on my winch so that if I forget to let off the button when raising the plow, (many times), it shuts off before breaking the rope (many times lol).It works great??
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Really? That's awesome, I have never seen those. How does it stop the plow? I will have to go look them up, thanks for the tip.
@randalllunger6351
@randalllunger6351 2 года назад
Isn't "Super relatively affordable" what they call an oxymoron? Plus, color coordination would demand a blue accessory rather than a boring same-color orange. :) Fun video and got me thinking about my first-ever setup that I am now installing. Appreciate the pointer (and comments from others). Lots of sharp viewers out there too.
@DirtObseXXion
@DirtObseXXion 5 лет назад
Midwest Anger!!! Blahahahahha! You're evil twin is kind of a D%$#, I like him!
@MrJeffyb69
@MrJeffyb69 5 лет назад
I was thinking the same thing ! :-)
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Bahahaha! Hes got a real anger problem we are working on 😂
@hawkman302
@hawkman302 2 года назад
Upgrading the bolts is probably not the best. As you said, something’s gotta give. Those bolts are the failure point maybe designed into the plow to have a designated point of failure which is easy to fix. Now that you put what looks like grade 8 bolts, if you make the same mistake, what will break?
@tjg841
@tjg841 4 года назад
Dude, its 2019. Get you a lithium powered drill and get rid that dinosaur! Just kidding, Ive still got my old XRP my dad gave me something like 20 years ago. About to order a Denali plow myself, thanks for the heads up on the winch cable bumper.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 4 года назад
Back off TJ I love that drill! 😂 Glad to hear the video was helpful. Good luck on the plow! They are so awesome and helpful.
@Mork007
@Mork007 4 года назад
Did you make this video as a joke?
@dougbarlow3010
@dougbarlow3010 2 года назад
As a fastener salesman. Lock washer go on the bolt on the nut end not the under the head.
@daikovany
@daikovany 2 года назад
He is almost so handy like my nieces!🤭 You had stitch also curtains?🤣
@johntobin8984
@johntobin8984 4 года назад
well from what i know the washers should be on the under side no pressure on the top side it would be on the bottom and flared head bolt and nuts dont take lock washers the flare locks them in
@jamesglenn520
@jamesglenn520 3 года назад
What in the world is a FLARED HEAD BOLT?? Please explain what you are referring to.
@dirtydurbin3673
@dirtydurbin3673 3 года назад
Way too many issues here please read your comments and learn from some of us most of us have been if the field longer and may know some really great information. But good video to keep people aware of mistakes
@chrishill1286
@chrishill1286 2 года назад
All I can say is I'm new to Montana winters and with a new Polaris 570 glacier plow setup . I have about 200 yards of driveway and associated tracks to out buildings. This setup has taken all I can give it. bashing into burms, busting through crusty frozen snow. Zero issues.
@stanleykeith6969
@stanleykeith6969 3 года назад
I would put those bolts up from the bottom so the nuts are on the top. This way you can see if they come loose or you loose the nuts and them the bolts.
@j.r.576
@j.r.576 4 года назад
If it were me, I would not make the mount so strong. I'm sure it was designed as it was to be a sacrificial as to minimize more serious damage should someone hoist too much.
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 2 года назад
My blade is manual lift with a handle, but sometimes when the snow is heavy I wish I had the winch setup.
@glennmccr
@glennmccr 2 года назад
You need a snatch block and a hook strap up on your bumper. Makes it much easier on the winch. Steel cables are crap too....
@michaelblock4397
@michaelblock4397 4 года назад
That’s why I wire a prox switch in-line of the winch, that way it stops before it breaks something, in the cab you can’t see if you over lift it. Electrical kill it, those stoppers are not a cure. They help
@shanevensel1788
@shanevensel1788 4 года назад
Michael Block he couldn’t figure out how to use a lock washer, prox switches might as well be the NASA space shuttle to this clown! 😂 btw that’s a great idea! I use the same on my 3 point set up
@michaelblock4397
@michaelblock4397 4 года назад
For me, I wired in a new winch contactor. I wired outlets, under the hood. It took a bit of thinking. So I use a summer connection and a snowblower connection. I’m using a 6’ snowblower.
@CarswithNash
@CarswithNash 4 года назад
This is why I built my own blade, no chance my winch is pulling anything apart on my blade lol!
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 4 года назад
That's awesome! How did you build one? Do you actually have the ability and knowledge to bend metal?
@CarswithNash
@CarswithNash 4 года назад
Navigate Offroad Yes, check it out, lots of videos of it on my channel, go to playlists to find it easier. It’s a 6’ I run on a Dodge Neon.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 4 года назад
@@CarswithNash haha, dude thats crazy! Just went and checked it out. I can't believe that neon worked that well for plowing. Its such a small and light car. Plus I think I heard you say you have over 250 hours of plowing with it..that's nuts! Cool man.
@CarswithNash
@CarswithNash 4 года назад
Navigate Offroad Yep, I get over 6 ft of snow per winter on my acreage, lots of plowing, I’ve yet to break anything beyond the winch cable. I’m actually revamping the whole setup currently and I plan to add some small wings on my blade so it will carry a bit more snow. Thanks for taking the time to check it out, I sub’ed to you now.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 4 года назад
@@CarswithNash That's awesome Matt. I love the uniqueness of your setup. I would say you probably get a lot of looks from others passing by but I'm guessing you don't get too many of those. How much acreage do you own? Thanks for the sub man, I appreciate that!
@schmegmann
@schmegmann 3 года назад
a pulley riser-bar on front... would allow for much less stress on winch and higher possible plow rise...and bolts should have been installed from bottom and nuts on top...
@chrisgraffam3357
@chrisgraffam3357 2 года назад
Lil bit of what I call I have more money than brains 🤣
@Eric-gi9kg
@Eric-gi9kg 3 года назад
Interesting... I've been plowing snow '89. Started with a Suzuki 2wd quad runner, and now an '09 Artic Cat. Both of these machines have run the M.U.D. Moose plow 54" (?). The ONLY thing that I have broke is the cable. You get what you pay for.
@darinmckee2320
@darinmckee2320 Год назад
Any recommendations on those skid deals that prevent your steel edge from scraping the concrete?? I have Koplin plow.
@atvplowlight7455
@atvplowlight7455 5 лет назад
Check out the Plow Alert Light System. Really cool new product a simple concept that is easy to install and will keep you from breaking cable or in your case the plow.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Lol, nice self advertisement there! But I'm intrigued and will check it out.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
I cant a totally seem to find this product anywhere..
@atvplowlight7455
@atvplowlight7455 5 лет назад
Here is the link. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HbUxZM3Hqio.html @@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Cool concept, thanks for sharing!
@ctearlybird1676
@ctearlybird1676 3 года назад
My man
@Keepnthem
@Keepnthem 2 года назад
Well… ya need to know… the lock washers go behind the nuts… not the bolts. Also, ya need a different place on the plow to hook the winch. Your hooking point is too far forward. That angle is not lifting “UP” on the plow. It’s more pulling back on the bracket instead of “UP” on it, and the higher the blade goes the worse the angle gets putting more and more backward pressure on the bracket. THAT’S why the bracket broke. Basic geometry.
@cszulu2000
@cszulu2000 Год назад
The cable hook stopper will not do anything if you cannot have it set to max up pull for your plow. But then it will drag or be annoying when you remove the Plow.
@hervevdb
@hervevdb 3 года назад
He is so proud about 3 screws washers and nuts ! Is there a patent pending on it ?
@jamesglenn520
@jamesglenn520 3 года назад
Joke is on you!!! There were no SCREWS used in this video!!!
@hervevdb
@hervevdb 3 года назад
@@jamesglenn520 ok 3 bolts if you prefer ....
@garrisonaw
@garrisonaw 5 лет назад
That really looks like it’s a design flaw in the plow. The attachment point should pull directly toward the winch. If it did, you wouldn’t have had this problem.
@jamesglenn520
@jamesglenn520 3 года назад
It's built that way to keep the winch from bending or breaking other things 🥸
@chichiszolusha608
@chichiszolusha608 3 года назад
Wait a hammer drill with a concrete bit ...I want to see more
@kylekirkpatrick1446
@kylekirkpatrick1446 4 года назад
Lock washers go before the nut goes on
@michaelduttry182
@michaelduttry182 3 года назад
I wouldn't be putting my hands under there without something else holding it up. That cable breaks or slips it won't feel good.
@jamesklopotic8646
@jamesklopotic8646 2 года назад
Can you make a video on a sparkplug change for a cforce 800? No one has as of 6/26/22
@pookie12222
@pookie12222 2 года назад
the lock washers go on the nut side for future projects
@UBAYBE
@UBAYBE 2 года назад
The lock washer goes on before the bolt!
@mikies3123
@mikies3123 4 года назад
And you all missed this part...the flat and lock washers are the wrong size for the bolt....if you need a bigger washer you should use a fender washer which is bigger outside diameter and right bolt size!!
@ATVfu
@ATVfu 5 лет назад
Entertaining. That is not the proper use for a hammer drill or a hammer drill bit... Made me cringe a bit there. Also, keep in mind that there will always be a weak part of the system. By reinforcing the mounting plate, if you don't change your habits with the plow, something else will have to give. Maybe the winch or winch line, or something else. Just my 2¢!
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
1) I'm not sure what you are referring too with the hammer drill. I use it on everything from more common uses such as masonry, to something like this without issue. Also, that was a steel bit...I would be lying if I said I had the "correct bit", but knew I could use this one without damaging it so I saved a trip to the store. 2) I agree, something's going to give. I feel that's pretty obvious and I dont believe I gave a different impression. I outright stated we screwed up by not paying close enough attention and pulling it up too high. As for reinforcement, I still think you should reinforce and make something better like thia when repairing. I could have retapped the same whole but like I said it wasn't the greatest setup from the start so why not make it better? Plus, this shows an easy way to fix the issue without many individuals having to go out and but a retapping kit and mess around with that process.
@ATVfu
@ATVfu 5 лет назад
@@NavigateOffroad the hammer function is meant primarily for concrete and other masonry type surfaces. The bits for masonry are designed for this use. In your case, you were lucky and the masonry bit you used was harder than the steel you were drilling. More often than not, it'll just result in damaging your bit. Really, this just shows the low quality steel used in your plow. My comment about reinforcement wasn't to discourage the practice, just to shed light on the fact that if you make something stronger, when it breaks it'll break somewhere else, wherever the weakest spot is. I wasn't suggesting you re-tap the existing holes, just to add to the discussion.
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Well thanks for adding to the discussion (seriously)! As for the bit, it was designed for steel. I know the main purpose of a hammer drill is for concrete and masonry..but I've used them multiple times on steel with the right bit and never had an issue...maybe that's not technically correct? Although if the bit is meant for steel and it works / doesn't seem to be hurting anything...does it matter? Thoughts?
@garrisonaw
@garrisonaw 5 лет назад
Navigate Offroad While they do make drill bits for steel that you can use in a hammer drill, the bit you’re using appears to have a carbide tip, and those are generally designed for masonry, not steel, so they raise a valid question. In addition, drilling into steel using a hammer drill is very hard on the bit. You run a significantly higher risk of breaking the bit off. When drilling steel, you should be using a sharp bit, and it should be _cutting_ the metal, not pounding on it.
@carmichaelmoritz8662
@carmichaelmoritz8662 4 года назад
making a video of it also provides a good way to become even more wealthy . the wealthy keep getting more wealth while the poor stay poor .
@rickyshepherd4326
@rickyshepherd4326 3 года назад
I hope he's not relying on that winch and plate to hold the plow while his hand is under there.
@billwilliams761
@billwilliams761 5 месяцев назад
Lock washers don't go under the head of the bolt...they go on the Nut side.
@dirtydurbin3673
@dirtydurbin3673 3 года назад
Number one if your using a masonry bit on steel do not run the drill in hammer mode that is for concrete only yes masonry bits will drill through steel will get you out of a pinch but buy metal drill Bitts. I would have welded that plate on its way stronger if done correctly
@loosemouthcowboy4790
@loosemouthcowboy4790 2 года назад
Lock washer on the nut side eh do it right the first time.
@btrswt35
@btrswt35 3 года назад
Why not put a spring between the winch and the plow? The plow does not look like it's super heavy. I think it would give some cushion and leeway when raising it.
@jsboening
@jsboening 3 года назад
Looks like the type of guy who could screw up a haircut.
@ryanpaasch7464
@ryanpaasch7464 3 года назад
Oock washer go on but side, use shorter bolts those will drag on the ground. Hammer drill to go through metal? They are for concrete
@user-qe5sr8mw2w
@user-qe5sr8mw2w 5 лет назад
I think it would be less stress on the plow/winch/cable if you hooked on at the attachment point directly below the fairlead, more of an up/down vertical motion versus pulling back...?
@NavigateOffroad
@NavigateOffroad 5 лет назад
Actually it's easier to pull from further out because of where the pivot point for the winch and winch plate are. That other spot we connected to does work well to hold the blade off the ground when needed though 😀 Thanks for the input, Bryce.
@user-qe5sr8mw2w
@user-qe5sr8mw2w 5 лет назад
Midwest ATV that makes sense. Different theory with a front mount versus mid mount.
@duck9191
@duck9191 4 года назад
Cable would be lucky to make it one or two storms. Running it over that sharp of a bend will break the strands down in no time and it will snap.
@moonlandingagain3228
@moonlandingagain3228 5 лет назад
Andrew Camarata
@donabbott5432
@donabbott5432 3 года назад
Tancosteel Fornication well said another rookie👍
@murfrirhke4557
@murfrirhke4557 2 года назад
The lock washers do nothing under the bolt head. They should be installed under the nuts over a flat washer.
@kevinwilliamson7294
@kevinwilliamson7294 2 года назад
Lock washer goes on the nut end to prevent it from backing off.......
@6stat664
@6stat664 2 года назад
The last comment is exactly what I was thinking. What the hell?
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