So if the classroom door cant be locked, then why did they say the shooter locked himself inside and the cops needed a key to get inside? Too many different stories going on. Video marker 3:05 . Because obv the door wasnt locked from the outside otherwise he wouldnt of been able to get in.......
One of the students said the teacher was outside in the hallway trying to lock the door from the outside when the shooter approached and backed the teacher up into the classroom before they could lock the door, take it with a grain of salt, but yeah, clearly the door wasn’t locked. Seems like an awful mechanism to have a door that only locks from the outside when the kid reported the teacher was having trouble with the keys getting the door to lock.
My understanding is that the classroom door was "locked" but was not latching properly in the striker plate. Therefore the handle wouldn't move but someone would be able to get inside just by pulling the door open. Also, the shooter would've been able to come out and go back inside as he pleased. What a clusterf......
Often in a crisis people find out what they’re really made of… For some it’s a courage they never knew before… for others like Arredondo they find cowardice hidden under his badge and bravado. The worst example of a leader is one who doesn’t take action and also prevents others from doing so by holding the place of leadership, and acting like he’s in charge, when in reality he’s too afraid to do the job. Arredondo is a poser…. who tries to look like a big chief and pretends to be in control to keep others from seeing his cowardice. They had shields, rifles and a door busting tool available early on… And plenty of officers (and parents), willing to do what was needed right away But He didn’t use those options and instead wanted to wait for keys…. KEYS?… Or was he waiting for the shooter to finish up. Yes likely many students died in the initial round of shots but how many were killed later while he waited for KEYS? And how many bled to death in that hour while Arredondo hid in the hallway waiting for KEYS? I guess we all missed that training protocol about being careful not to break any doors during a school shooting. Arredondo is a coward who was afraid to die ( understandable I guess), but he didn’t allow others to take action bc he was too scared to lead it or be seen as the coward he is. Better to pose as a leader and have everyone wait with him for Keys? This all fits his profile.. a man whose primal instincts are set way higher for self preservation than the protection of others… it’s just the way he’s wired. Just a few days after the shooting there he was strutting around dressed like a politician, shaking hands and back slapping his pals like nothing ever happened , while he was being secretly sworn in for some city counsel position? Waiting.. as he said, “for the parents to stop grieving”, before answering everyone’s questions…. how considerate of him. This guy is guilty of criminal cowardice and all the stupidity and bad decisions that go with it …Posing as a chief …. while he politely waited for someone to bring him some Keys?
But it wasn't just him. The school was pathetically unprepared. They didn't have a lockdown protocol in place, nor **ANY** functional security in place on the day a shooter arrived! He waltzed right in, and the teachers delivered those kids to him on a silver platter.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 just cpl hours before family, and other adults were in the school for an end of the year awards assembly. I would have thought that the school would have been more vigilant that morning due to other non school people in and out of the school. I guess not. I guess they were less vigilant with it being so close to end of the year. I wondered if the shooter or someone else tampered with any of the locks. Now they testified today that the outside door was completely shut, BUT DID NOT LOCK. IT'S LIKE A THREE STOOGES MOVIE MINUS THE HUMOR ADDING IN EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF BLOODCAND DEAD CHILDREN.
It seems like he wasn't the only one who was incompetent but I agree. He asked for his radios to be brought to him which he deliberately left outside like a knucklehead, which is against police procedures. He requested breaching tools and there was a "halligan bar" that was obtained and remained outside and nobody even thought to bring it in. It needs to be determined once and for all if he is lying about he and the other officers trying the handles on both doors 111 and 112. Why does no video corroborate that?
What I don't get is why his own officers didn't mutiny - that woman ran into get her own kids, surely there were cops freaking out at the lack of command initiative ?!?!?!?!?
@@chakenbacon that's weird...like guns were legal back then too. We have a big mental health problem in this country. And no one cares until it's too late.
The fact that a school has a door that is easy to breach is a very real issue. They should have spent some the the taxpayers money on installing better, unbreakable doors. That is as serious a problem as the incompetent police response.
@@reredrumuoy I took a look earlier at a school near me. All the exit doors have glass and certainly panic hardware. Maybe a code requirement or I'm sure it will be an emergency summer project.
The cops have been lying from the beginning. In addition, if they have been performing safety drills recently as they allegedly reported, they would know all the logistics of how the doors lock, how to breech, etc. Liars and cowards all! The only heroes that day were civilian moms and dads at the seen that went into or attempted entry into the school. These parents were unarmed and without body armour.
20 years since Columbine happened so they can't blame funding as an issue. If the exterior doors locked automatically and the teachers were able to lock doors in the inside this could have all been stopped. Human error allowed the exterior doors to be open. Not changing the school room doors to lock from the inside for 20 years.
No. They're putting it on the teacher. It could have been an innocent child. They would still put the blame on the child. Why didn't they shoot him in the yard?
How many non violent victimless traffic tickets did the the police of Ulvade give to its citizens in 2021? Maybe they should spend a little less time generating money for the state and a little more on serving and protecting
the main things is 3 things failed, police, teacher (acted asleep letting kids be sitting ducks instead of confronting the shooter), and the school for bad security.
Never understood the tactic to have students cower under desks with a roaming gunman inside instead of trying to get them out of the windows right away & tell them to run their little tails off to a designated safe area Away from the school.
@@natashacutiepie6074 I taught my daughter this on my own. I said if yall ever have an active shooter, you open or break the nearest glass around you and head out as quickly as you can, I don't care what the teacher or anyone else tries to tell you.
OK so all the doors, both interior and exterior, lock with a key on the outside. You can't tell by eye necessarily whether or not the door is locked. But you darn well should not have to close the door from the outside to tell whether or not the door is in the locked position as he indicates. If the door is latching in the strike plate and the exterior handle doesn't move then someone should know whether or not the door was locked. The teacher didn't understand how the door worked or she would've known she didn't need a rock. She also would've known there was no way for her to lockdown the school without the key. Not having bulletproof glass or at least steel mesh in the glass is a disaster.
The only answer to this is the Chief is a Jedi master. How else do you explain how he had the power to stop the hundreds of cops at the school from going in the classroom for an hour and a half just by telling them not to.
The teachers probably have the keys in their desk but, as said, the door only locks with a key on the outer handle. The door was locked but it didn't latch, so he was able to exit and re-enter a few times no problem. Anyone familiar with the way the doors lock, would've been clued in immediately that the door couldn't be secure and they should have known that they could also go right in.
@@donaldjoy4023 I must've heard that from McCraw's testimony yesterday. He came out at least once to fire at police officers located in the hallway to the south and north, forcing them to retreat. 2 of the officers to the north were grazed. None of them fired back which I find extremely alarming, and contrary to his previous reports that 9 police issue shell casings were found in the hallway. Those may have been dragged out into the hallway when they were dragging out the victims (gruesome I know). Check it out yourself. I heard him say that he did it more than once. I need to verify it though.
So how was the shooter able to lock the doors but the teacher was unable to? They need to make doors lockable in schools. We can talk about the police response all we want. A simple locked door couldve meant a way different outcome for all this. And then police would be dealing with the subject outside rather than having to go inside with the risk of crossfire.
How? First time the teacher was made aware the guy was in the room already. No, what you need to do is to remove all the doors and replace them with reinforced concrete walls.
@@Oneofakind123 He came in through 2 unlocked doors. The exterior door and classroom door. Police came through another unlocked exterior door that is supposed to lock once you close it. The school is at fault. I dont care how safe a community is....just lock the fricking doors! Is it a concrete wall? No....but it would significantly slow him down and distract him trying to bust or shoot open a door. And yes he can try to shoot through windows but if everyone is trained and has common sense you stay away from the doors and windows. He fired a lot of rounds into the school initially from the outside and it hit noone. If the police confronted him outside...it would be safer and they would be forced to respond as he would be firing at them
This whole shooting and investigation does not add up. Too many unanswered questions. I cannot even fathom that many police officers Doing NOTHING for over an hour. Did not even ONE have the determination to go after the shooter even from the outside thru the exterior windows?
So those particular doors couldn't be locked? I ask because in the bodycam footage it showed the police were unable to open a door to a classroom they saw kids in, and that classroom was just down the hall from where the shooter was. So for at least one door the teachers were able to lock it from the inside.
According to the mayor and city council of Uvalde, DPS and other agencies are following the CYA policy. The mayor believes that bureaucrats have shifted this conversation to be about local law enforcement whereas there were several law enforcement groups present on the scene. There is probably more anger to be directed than just at Arredondo, but the public is getting hit with the shell game leading us to believe that only one person and local law enforcement are at fault.
A teacher in one of the classrooms had complained for a long time about door not able to be closed so we don't need Sherlock Holmes to tell us that all the facts where a perfect storm for a nut job from buying a weapon of MASS destruction to the police 🚔 failure to act in a manner they swore to act to everyone playing hot potato 🥔 with responsibility
Just look at the real door. All the glass is shattered and has tons if gun shots. This was from the exchanged gunfire from the subject and law enforcement. There was not much gun holes and yet retreated.
If the cops rushed the classroom room the second they arrived and the cops started shooting towards the shooter and a cops stray bullet hit a child by accident would that be acceptable because there would be a high possibility that could have happened.
They were taught to lie flat or under desks so I'm sore no kids would be in the way. They weren't mulling around in the way of officers had they burst in.
The end of this video is just bs. Elementary schools are the easiest of all to secure. At the rate this keeps happening there has to be a locked door policy except during release times and recess. The new high school in my community has entire glass walls for classrooms.
This whole video is weird. Why would we worry about locks on doors during the school day? Kids go outside, they come back in you want them to have doors locked and opened upon command this makes no sense. Why should an exterior door be locked from those on the outside to come in? What if there was a fire now you have a locked door? What if a young child goes outside real quick and can't get back in the same door? This panel needs to look at the cowardice officers and fire them all.
As Chief of Police for the School District, Pete Arredondo should have known all that after two (2) years on the job. Even the Mayor should have known that.
UGH!!!!! DEFLECTING MCGRAW. SHAME ON YOU!!! YOU DEFLECT BY SAYING THE SHOOTER COULD'VE SHOT THE GLASS SIDE PANELS AND ENTERED BY PUSHING THE INSIDE BAR. WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT. NONE OF THAT HAPPENED. YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT TO DEFLECT AND AVOID THE ANSWER!!!! THE QUESTION WAS " WAS THERE A MALFUNCTION WITH THAT DOOR, THAT IT DIDN'T LOCK" THEN HE ANSWERS NO, AND STARTS DEFLECTING. THIS IS WHY THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED. HE KNEW IF HE DIDN'T DEFLECT. THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION, AS TO IF THE DOOR WAS LOCKING HOW DID THE KILLER ENTER? HE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SAY. THE OBVIOUS RESPONSE IS THAT THE TEACHER DID NOT!!! REMOVE THE PROP. HE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO ADMIT IT!!! SHAME, ON YOU MCGRAW, SHAME!
Aregious human error by everyone. So no one prior to shooting is to be held accountable? Who failed? Parents, friends, teachers who have studied psychology and left behavior unchecked, as well as lack of security by school. Maybe have your fit with the politician you voted for so that there are enough funds to cover money it would take to secure our children properly. Instead, how bout everyone blame officers as they try to hold vigilante parents back who could've caused more death.
@@MWeems-eh3po Oh, weem, your solution, throw more money into it. Where have I heard that before?🤔 if you'd been paying attention, instead of seeing this as blame on my behalf, you'd might've seen, that my frustration was he just needs to be transparent, and tell all truths. ALL. You can't pick and choose what truths to tell weem. It's happened. You can't go back and change it. Every single event that lead up to this massacre fell in place. It's tragic. But MY POINT, Say exactly what happened. Exactly. I think, the families, the community and the state. Want FULL clarity. And when you're bouncing around the subjects, when you're deflecting, all trust in what he's saying is removed.
The head of security in this school should also be responsible for this. As when they were having active shooter drills didn't anyone point these out. The kids were in danger all the time.
Most poor and low income district and school don't have proper lock system or security on campus. The school board administration decision not to invest in security, because they just don't have the budget, money, funding, and finance. That locking system is outdated, doesn't even have a card access and electronic pad.
I've been saying since the shooting "why weren't the doors locked" ? It would seem the shooter would have a major ISSUE if the doors had been locked !! But he walked right in !! SICKENING !!
Militarizing schools is not a popular option in the public but it could make a difference. All these mass killings have to stop is unacceptable that is becoming so common and nothing is ever done about it.
Nothing's been done about all the black on black murders that take place on a daily basis but you're not allowed to bring that topic up because 'racist'.
It's not about the shooter doing that. It's the fact that ANYONE could break into the school with how it was designed. This is a matter of potential security that other schools are going to consider.
CLEARLY we are all the real nuts. We guard our money as if its our life, with arms and 3 foot thick doors with all kinds of security, then we leave open security that guards our children like they are replaceable. Everything is replaceable except our children's lives. JUST NUTS !!
it needs to be done. If he says the door couldn't have been locked they can rebut by simply saying yes it can. It's important to know the doors had the function to lock but there was no way for the gunman to do that from the inside or without a key. This makes it impossible for the cops to lie and say it was locked .. as they already have once.
This feels like an abusive husband slapping his wife at the table and blaming her for it. These cops are literally trying to pin it on the school. This country sucks sometimes.
