Every song you hear, every book that's mentioned, every piece of art you see has been on someone's banned list, somewhere in the world. This was done quite intentionally by the producers of the film.
@@boss180888 The works of Alexandre Dumas (both father and son) were banned by the Index Librorum Prohibitorum of the Sacred Congregation of the Roman Inquisition in 1863.
@@thegunslinger1363 his acting range is insane. The only other masked acting performance that I feel is also crazy good is Baldwin the V portrayed by Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven.
One or two of James Purefoy's performances as V was still kept in the film. He was the original actor cast as V. But yeah, he bowed out early in the shoot and Hugo Weaving met the challenges of the V costume for the majority of the film.
I think the V monologue is one of the most underappreciated pieces of writing ever published... to be able to write a speech that long, with that many V words in it, and have it make perfect sense must have taken a lot of time and effort. And it's funny you mention 1984 since John Hurt, The high chancellor, was the main character in the movie of 1984
@@drakocarrion Alan Moore didn't write that speech. The Wachowski's were doing an Alan Moore impression with all the wordplay and alliteration. Which is ironic, because in scenes like V's takeover of the TV airwaves, his dialogue is noticeably dumbed down from the book. Instead of a rousing speech about freedom, the language is that of an employee evaluation of the human race as a whole by a somewhat disappointed Boss\God figure. Valerie's note is the only scene that is basically word for word from the book, hence it being the best written scene in the movie. I don't dislike the movie, but a lot of the poetry and inventiveness of the book's language is streamlined and simplified in place of bare exposition, and I miss it.
@@DanceMonkeychg There is a reason why Moore hate when they adapt his work to other media, it never will be the same (also he own nothing from the copy rights, most of them belong to DC and some to Marvel, he hate both of them) but i think V for Vendetta and Watchmen (the movie not the terrible HBO serie :D ) was prety good adaptation even with the lot of changes, unlike the The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. As Moore fan it feel bad to say it but i would like to see more adaptition of his comics, especially From Hell and Promethea.
@@redcardinalist I agree, it's a damn good story. It would be particularly apt considering John Hurt plays the villain in this and the protagonist in 1984
"In the movie, John Hurt played the role of Adam Sutler, the High Chancellor of Norsefire and Britain’s authoritarian elected leader. Whenever on-screen, Sutler’s eyes were shown to be dilated, subtly hinting at drug abuse. This is particularly inspired by the Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, who was addicted to stimulants at the end of the Second World War. Interestingly, John Hurt had previously played the role of Winston Smith, a victim of a dystopian and authoritarian regime in the movie adaptation of George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four."
Her sentiment that, 'even though I do not know you, I love you with all of my heart' is so legendary to me every single time I watch it, because it is the absolute antithesis of the fascist ideology she is suffering under. It's the ultimate good against that evil, and the total refusal to submit to it.
I've seen this movie more times than I can remember and I ALWAYS cry. "And even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you. I love you. With all my heart." It's one of the more beautiful sentiments I've heard, seen, read. No matter how difficult her life had become, the torments she endured, the pain she suffered, love in the face of horror and evil is what gave her strength.
Voila! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V. And you would be?
10:36 "So was V a test subject?" "But the shot they showed was like prisoners." Unfortunately those two things are not mutually exclusive especially under totalitarian governments.
They aren't mutually exclusive under any government. "National security/interest" leads pretty much any government to consider some of its people disposable. So when they "need" disposable people, they'll make some people disposable.
@@ge2719 Name a government which has not considered some of its people disposable in service to the "national interest". The very existence of a military draft is sufficient proof that a government classifies one segment of its population as disposable. And if you really want to know whether any government will not experiment on its people, just ask yourself how many national governments did not implement any kind of covid vaccination mandate. Because every government that did experimented on its people. Of the very few that did not, all they have done is not experimented on their people in that one instance. Doesn't mean they haven't done so in other cases.
@@flatebo1 you say that as if every government that currently serving had drafted citizens into war ... Did the UK have a draft recently and i just missed it? Nut job. Yeah, mandates were wrong, but at the same time large numbers of the populations of those countries were happy to sell it each other and call anyone who disagrees "anti vaxxers' if they opposed mandated. You say all governments are the ones who are in willing to experiment on its citizens... No. You miss the bigger picture SOME of them do. Just as some citizens no matter how much power or influence they have showed willingness to be just as evil. It's a pile problem, not a government problem. Not all governments are evil. Not all humans are evil. To claim all governments are evil is both idiotic and insane
"Who should we get to play V? We need someone who can portray intense emotion through an emotionless mask. Someone with commanding presence. Someone who is like an immovable machine." "Mr. Anderson..."
"You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability... This evil cannot be concealed by the power of the Elves. We do not have the strength to withstand both Mordor and Isengard. People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. Never send a human to do a machine's job."
And what’s crazy is they actually got someone else who filmed half the movie before being replaced by Hugo Weaving. Half the scenes you see with V in it is actually the other guy with Weavings voice over
While this movie is imperfect in its adaptation, it is a great film. The prison note scene is a testament to the power of that film. It didn’t manage to move me quite to tears in the comic, but I have never gotten through that part of the of the movie without tears. It’s utterly devastating.
Seeing it with actors makes a difference maybe. That said, I must've re-read the comic well into the double digits since it first came out and "Valerie" (as that chapter's called) has _certainly_ made me cry. Devastatingly sad and incredibly beautiful.
After seeing reactions to this and Watchmen in close proximity, the note scene reminds me of Dr. Manhattan's story. They were both mostly good up to that point, but then those scenes provide the heart that was missing. Now I should re-think the rest of Moore's graphic novels looking for that.
@Latest Obsession I always thought that was him almost sticking to a point of principal by that time (after his previous experiences with films) - his objection to his story being updated to reflect contemporary concerns didn't strike me as an especially valid one (though of course I respect his personal preference). Just as Simone and George didn't directly pick up on the post-9/11/War on Terror notes in this film that were quite blatantly at the time of release, I wouldn't think they'd have a chance in hell of picking up the Thatcher's Britain stuff that Moore was originally targeting. The story is more than its local connections, and continues to resonate for that reason.
Weaving is in that Morgan Freeman class of “could read the phone book and I’d be captivated.” Portman was a make or break for this film and she did great. She’s one of those who makes it very clear in her performance if she cares about the film or not.
And wasn't Natalie the first actress to have her head actually shaved on camera? If I'm wrong though, I have read somewhere that her performance in that scene set a "new standard" for many Hollywood actresses to show better commitment to a character in such a way. 'Cause especially in Ms. Portman's case, you could only get one shot for a scene like that every few months or so.
@@Anino_Makata I'm glad George picked up on that - it definitely made some movie headlines at the time. And while I don't really care too much either way if you really shave your head - for instance Karen Gillan has such gorgeous hair it was a minor crime against nature to shave it for Nebula, although she did a great job 😉- Natalie Portman was fantastic in _V_ and I appreciate the gesture.
@Gerald H Ahh. You're one of those. IMO, your ilk assist in pushing us to a dystopian future such as in the film. You and those on the opposite side, which ironically, are very similar.
"Is it meaningless to apologise?" "Never." Writing like that where a single word can sum up an entire character (especially such a verbose character as V) will never fail to impress me. Great film.
@BattleAngelFan while I don't go as far as the other guy does, apologizing means nothing to me as well. People apologize too often to gain time than to actually mean anything from it. I ve seen countless and countless apologies where people keep repeating the same bullshit or mistake. I would rather you actually change the behaviour or whatever than to constantly apologize to me. Waste of time for you and you think Im stupid by doing this constantly. Like everything, actions speak louder than words. If someone actually keep hurting me or doing the same shit that they have to apologize, I will just fade away and cut them out of my life. I don't need 100 friends or relatives, just a few that we treat each other well. When you reach that point, you know the person didnt mean it when they hurt you, hence, no need to apologize, cause it was a slip up and you know they actually care about you and won't repeat it.
So many people talk about Hugo Weaving’ s amazing performance in this. And yes, he is amazing. But I also think Natalie Portman was phenomenal in this. I generally prefer feel good movies to the darker ones, but I adore this one.
Individually, each are in their top form, however their chemistry together is what really breathes life into this amazing script. The goodness abounds.
She also actually did have her head shaved for the film. Sure, actors get paid extra for that (their image is part of their "brand", so it makes sense), but doing so can affect roles down the line, so being willing to do it anyway shows investment in the role.
@@PaulGuy She could just wear a wig for the next few movies. I'm often surprised in movies when a girl pulls a wig off so they aren't that noticeable to me.
Yes, they really did shave Natalie Portman's head for that scene, so obviously everyone had to make sure everything was done perfectly since they literally only had once chance to get those shots.
15:53 "Is it meaningless to apologize?" 😢 Oh, look at this woman. She's dealing with V, she just found out that, in a few moments, she'll be dead, and her concern is not saving her own _life,_ but making amends while she still has _time._ You can glean part of her _backstory,_ here. At some point, after working at the Institute, the full magnitude of what she was doing there _dawned_ on her and she began to experience _remorse._ Since then, her main concern was that either she or V would pass away before she got the chance to _apologize_ to him.
The scary thing about this movie is that its always relevant. No matter the era, there's always some government oppressing its people somewhere in the world and revolution in peoples mouths.
nah I think the era matters, the one in which a virus is let loose on the world and eventually discovered to be made in a lab for the profit of its makers selling the cure set in the year 2020, when America are trying to prevent themselves going into a civil war. yeah I think the era matters.
When I first read the graphic novel it seemed very contemporary. When the movie came out, more so. And now looking back, it seems terrifyingly prescient. We simply did not learn the lessons this story crafted so well, hence the nature of the times we live in now. V is for Vigilance
-1984 is directly referenced by this movie by casting John Hurt in the Big Brother role on ubiquitous "telescreens." -Equilibrium has a striking look to it but suffers from being essentially a lazy mash-up of 1984, Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451, (and even THX 1138)that leads to some weird inconsistencies (If ALL art is banned and must be burned, why does the city have giant statuary in their striking art-deco/bauhaus architecture?) and their gun-fu is all flashy arm waving and no actual fighting until the last scene.
@@chrisleebowers I hated the whole gun fu nonsense. I'm willing to accept a certain amount of suspension of disbelief having grown up with sci fi and fantasy, but there was just something so stupid about the idea of dodging bullets by standing around making cool poses...
@@CaptLoquaLacon Js, it's not dodging bullets, it's efficiency in shooting. Still silly but it's about the quickest, most efficient shot before someone can react. There is a bullet'-dodgy stuff with the hall scene but I still think thats the explanation, how ever dumb it might be.
@@erikjohnson3859 They open up with Christian Bale walking in to the middle of a firefight in a warehouse, with bullets somehow missing him. It's not efficient, it's tactically deficient! They even describe 'Gun Kata' in the film as "...keeping the defender clear of the statistically-traditional trajectories of return fire". Nope. Just nope. The whole efficiency in shooting thing is laughable too - they use automatic weapons which swap accuracy for rate of fire, but that's just another absence of logic in an all-style-and-no-substance movie
@@CaptLoquaLacon To be fair though, wasnt the thing just before that about "increasing shooting efficiency by some %" or something, as though they could calculate like that lol?. I still like the campiness though.
"Even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you. I love you. With all my heart, I love you." -Valerie...That gets me every time. I loved your reactions to this great movie!
One of the best written movies ever made. And you gotta give huge props to Hugo Weaving for his amazing performance. Very few actors are talented and "well-spoken" enough to pull off that role. Natalie Portman also did a spetacular job with some very intense and emotional scenes. And yes she did get shaved for real for this movie.
I was expecting this reaction. And agreeing with George, this movie takes quite a meaning when you have had some close or close-by-proxy knowledge of what it is to live in a totalitarian state. For me, being from Argentina, a lot of topics in this hit close to home. I actually think that now, many things in this movie are starting to resemble ongoing realities, and that's quite sad.
I too love Stephen Fry. You should react to something with a Fry and Laurie casting! Like Jeeves and Wooster (based off the Jeeves novels by P.G. Wodehouse) Or Blackadder! Or of course, A Bit Of Fry and Laurie.
Massive respect to both of you. In the past few weeks, easily and rapidly became one of the best - and personally, favorite - reaction duo. Usually it's split pretty 50-50, but George really shined with this. You carried yourself with dignity and even asked everyone to be nice, in the face of a personal and tough topic. Love ya, George. Thanks for everything mate.
V for Vendetta is easily among my favorite movies of all time! Its message is truly poignant, timeless and inspiring. Valerie's letter makes me cry no matter how many times I watch this movie - my real name is Valerie and I'm also LGBT, so it really strikes a chord with me. Hugo Weaving did a stellar job as V, despite wearing a mask the entire time, you can feel his every emotion. I heard Alan Moore didn't like this adaptation, but I say he's a crazy person...
I think it's more like, how it wasn't adapted like comic being the gripe for him. Just like how Stephen King didn't like the Shining movie. I mean fair enough as author. But V for Vendetta and The Shining are brilliant movies regardless.
@@the_crypter Difference is King own the copy rights, Moore isn't, evry single cent going to DC. If a big company stole your stuff and selling it with your name on it, would you like it? Evry one like to call him crazy, but it easy to understand why he hate this. Crazy or not he wrote half of the best comics and it is a shame what they did to him in return.
I always imagined V is what you would get if you put Batman and Joker into a character blender: like Bats he's got the Zorro aesthetics and secret lair, meticulous planning and just cause; but like the Joker he's also a hammy terrorist and killer with a permanent smile who went mad after being exposed to chemicals. His overall lack of sanity is also way more overt in the comic.
@@hikikamore69 Riddler in the new film read to me as a combination of Riddler, Hush and Anarky. Anarky was explicitly inspired by V (to the point that it's at one point implied that V for Vendetta exists as a comic in the main DC universe, and he partiallly based his costume on it). Except for the flooding at the end (and probably bombing Wayne) most of Riddler's plans felt like Anarky plans with riddles added. Tho DC has been trying to push Anarky into being a straight-up villian (instead of anti-hero) for a while now, so maybe he would do the flood thing now. He even does the getting radicalized internet followers as his "minions" thing in newer comics too.
Nice observation. Though I think maybe one important difference is that V is more self-aware of his flaws (arguably than both the Joker _and_ Batman) - he _knows_ he's a terrorist and killer which is why he _also_ knows that the post-revolution world has no place for him in it, hence his death and priming Evey to step in.
@@anonymes2884 Exactly, that's another reason I like him, is that he's not bound by popularity or editorial mandate, so Alan Moore could just take his character to its inevitable conclusion. V can put everything into his mission because he knows it's a one-way trip.
My favorite detail upon rewatching is to see Vallery in the scene where the doctor reviews her subjects. Horrid what happened to her but it's one of those details that pulls it all together.
If you like Stephen Fry, I highly recommend "Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows." There was not a single bad casting decision made, all performances were amazing, the chemistry between Jude Law and RDJ was simply delectable, and although Fry's character is a supporting role, it's really the cherry on top of such a delicious cinematic sundae.
V For Vendetta is one of my favourite movies. Hugo Weaving and Natalie Portman are both phenomenal in this and I really enjoy your reactions 👍😀Keep up the good work 😎✨
"The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself". Apt words then, apt words now. Dune and this film do a great job showing the power of what is possible by overcoming your fear. The way V helped Evie overcome her fear was a masterpiece of writing.
that whole speech in the beginning where he uses all alliteration was just perfect. Also, could not have picked a better actor than Hugo Weaving to play V.
It's hopelessly optimistic (the UK seems pretty clearly fine with fascism and authoritarianism, and in any case the idea that some guy pointing it out on TV would ignite a general uprising is endearingly deluded) but I do love this movie.
I love John Hurts role in this movie. It's a great tongue in cheek to one of his most famous movies adopted from a classic book. His character's name in that movie was Winston. And that movie is called "1984". So his portrayal as the "Big Brother" figure is so hilarious.
"People shouldn't be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." Ever more prevalent with the anti war protests in Russia.
@@shredd5705 except that freedom of speech has no effect in the U.S. either, but merely used as a distraction from the fact that real control has always been in the hands if the elite. Same as the elections...just to give the public the illusion of control over a country that has been bought and sold decades ago. Don't get me wrong, Russia is no example to be followed in any way, but to imply that the U.S. is, it's a fallacy. There are countries in the world right now that are doing much better (Scandinavia, Finland, Australia, New Zealand) and their recipe of success has a much more socialist approach.
Art is needed to tell uncomfortable truth, very real injustices , and to teach. Remember. Lest we forget. Honor , George, to yourse. Correct. This is a story. A well done story. I love this film. As cómics as it is.
Y’all reference Harry Potter a few times. The actor who plays The High Chancellor in this movie is John Hurt, who played Ollivander the wand shop guy in the Harry Potter movies. And the actor who plays the lead detective isn’t the same guy who played Arthur Weasley. Kind of looks the same, but he’s Stephen Rea, another very accomplished UK actor.
"I wish revolutions were this clean" that shit hit home, ngl... Im part jamaican and (from much more recent history) venezuelan.. so.. yeah... that shit..
Fun point - John Hurt played the lead in 1984 :) and Simone should watch seasons 2-4 of Blackadder - Stephen Fry playes Melchet in 2 seasons and the Duke of Wellington in season 3.
2:53 As an added bonus, E is the fifth letter in the English alphabet, and the number five as a Roman numeral is V. Also, Finch's right hand man Dominic is played by Rupert Graves, a.k.a. BBC Sherlock's Lestrade.
I always have a similarly conflicted feeling about V's torture of Evey. But I think the one thing he says that isn't somewhat manipulative and that is true is that Evey did discover something greater in herself because of his charade, and arguably more importantly, because of Valerie's letter. I don't think V can ever be justified or forgiven for what he did to Evey, but that doesn't take away from Evey's genuine growth. She ultimately became stronger because of herself and Valerie's inspiritation, not becuase of V. When V was being tortured and tested on, what he took away from Valerie's letter was the injustice and pain that was being inflicted on them and used that to break free and fuel his revolution. But Evey took something different from Valerie's letter. She gained a new appreciation for her life and for love and was set free in the rain by this change. V chose to imprison himself in his fiery hatred and pain, and that's why we cut back to his "baptism by fire" during Evey's "God is in the rain" scene. He's seeing how she's become something better and stronger because of her growth and his views are being challenged. And that finally motivates him to change his plan, and he gives the decision for what the future will be to Evey and all the citizens. That's maybe the thing that could redeem his torture of Evey, but it's still a fucked up situation that's difficult to parse.
Having been tortured it is a very good tool at learning who you really are. When you have no hope it will ever end, when each day seems to be never ending. When time is meaningless all you are left with is the pain and your own thoughts. You discover if you are broken easily or if there is great strength in you, most learn they are weak, others learn of a strength they never knew existed. That strength can fuel hate or it can fuel awakening, like Evey I was awoken. I learned to forgive, and to see past the pain, and in the end I was useless to them because I could not be broken. I never knew that about myself, and I mentally chose death before I would let them break me. I fortunately did not need to face that choice. That does not mean I was quiet, I would make up lies, and stories that they would learn after were just that and of course I paid for it. But by those lies and stories I gained precious hours of peace. I want to be clear, learning you are weak is a way to gain strength, and in no way should anyone think I am better than those that broke. We each have to make our own choice some love life more and some love it less. I am one who loves it less so death is not a scary thing to me. To those who love life and have much to live for they break so they can survive and live to see those they love again.
i never seen V for Vendetta before, starting watching this, 3 min in i paused watched the full movie on netflix, bought the bluray and comic online then returned to this window to watch your reaction. started this after my bed time lol
This is a movie that I love to rewatch, and I try to do it on Nov 5th. Watching it in the fall of 2020, after the pandemic started, was... weird. Not to play towards any conspiracy theories. It was just weirdly apropos, and unsettling how close reality seems to be getting to this movie.
In an amazingly ironic twist, John Hurt (Adam Sutler here), played Winston in 1984. The protagonist/victim-in-chief of 1984 is the antagonist/oppresser-in-chief here.
It's been awhile since I read the book but I remember V being crazy than heroic. In the movie you he's fighting for the people but in the book he's more psychotic.
I think maybe it's been too long since you read it - good excuse for a re-read right :). The characterisation is pretty similar between comic and film i'd say and though you could argue he's "crazy" in both, he also acts with very careful, deliberate purpose in both too. Is he heroic (in either) ? I'd say the most heroic thing V does is understand he's _not_ a hero.
Funny John Hurt who plays the Chancellor in this was Winston Smith in 1984 based on the book by George Orwell. The really funny thing is the V is prominent in both movies.
When you rewatch this movie, you have to believe it absolute insanity that Hugo Weaving was not even nominated for any major award for his performance in this movie. To portray that much emotion, instill that much wisdom and have such a monumental social impact without even showing your face should, in some way, have been rewarded.
Also notable is John Hurt playing the antagonist Sutler as nod to his polar opposite as the protagonist as Winston in the "1984"film oppressed by Big Brother.
They had to re-write Eve a lot in this movie. In the graphic novel she is a 16 year old on her first day as s sex worker. That is reason the scene with the bishop does not work, is in as he is supposed to be into VERY young girls.
@Latest Obsession My point is when you have somebody who looks (and was) over 21 it just looks like the Bishop was just into role play and not a pervert who abuses little girls.,as to the intention was in the graphic novel.
One of my all time favorite movies, I love sharing it with people that have never seen it and experiencing it again through their reactions. Additionally, a bit of irony about the movie (in my opinion at any rate) is that John Hurt was the protagonist Winston in 1984 and the antagonist Sutler in this one. Kind of an interesting turnabout.
Hearing George speak at the end, I had to wonder if Simone has ever seen the famous footage of the man standing in front of the tanks with a bag of shopping at Tianenmen Square (which I think is an event almost entirely censored within China). Not sure anyone who has ever seen that footage has forgotten it It was funny to see George wax lyrical over Steven Fry, he is mostly known for comedy parts and hosting in the UK. In terms of our national treasures in this particular movie, John Hurt is the one I'd expect the reaction for, he has done just about everything imaginable on screen from the mad emperor Caligula in I, Claudius, to an eccentric billionaire in Contact, the crew member who discovered the eggs in Alien. His filmography is a real rabbit hole and I don't think I've ever seen him give a performance that was anything less than very good
John Hurt is an acting legend. But as you say, Stephen Fry is _himself_ in a lot of things so personally I totally understand that someone might _like_ Stephen Fry more since we feel we know him more. George's response seemed to me more about Fry the person than Fry the actor.
As so many have pointed out, Hugo Weaving and Natalie Portman are amazing in this film. I wonder how many people when seeing it the first time thought "I know that voice. Who is it?" Natalie's performance was just as good as the role she won the Oscar for.
Just got finished with the full film reaction! Had such a great time, watching. I love this movie. It's been on my top list for a great long time. Thanks you guys for doing this one! :) Always looking forward to more.
17:49 "I love him in everything he does." "I haven't really _seen_ him in anything." "We should watch _A Bit of Fry & Laurie."_ Or a few episodes from one of the _Blackadder_ sitcoms.
Everything about this movie is of utmost interest to me. Listening to sharp, discerning people of conscience analyze and interpret this film is always interesting. The scene where V lays out the master authoritarian stroke of the chancellor never fails to give me goosebumps. Would love to be a part of a book/film club with you guys. Great reaction
Applies to all parties of all leanings. Some people use their brain, some follow The Party blindly even if it destroys everything around them if they get clout and a handout.
Nah, it really doesn’t. V for Vendetta is a story about a leftist movement of the people’s anarchy overcoming Christian ethno-fascism. Moore’s work is specific and pointed. Trying to twist this into some generalized, liberal fantasy about vague freedom from government is completely contrary to the intent of the work.
Extremely relevant now. Remember this movie every time someone calls a book, song, comment, post, opinion etc hateful. Mostly it’s just not shared by the one saying hateful.
It is one of the top movies in my life changed my whole perspective of the world we live in..especially when I was still a younger stage of my life....understanding what is whole life and purpose of all about. Such a movie will make a great...deeper mark in your soul and your entire look at the things at life
There are very few movies that will hit me emotionally even when rewatching them over and over again. This is easily one of the top 5 for me in that regard. I think the reason it works so well is that it has no real flaws, everything fits together so perfectly, the cast, the edit, the music, the story itself... and in the end it becomes more than the sum of it's parts. It grabs your attention and never lets go of it, not once. I also love how the movie plays on different scales at the same time and how they interact with each other. Probably not a movie playing on Russian TV right now... Mini-rant: Whenever someone says "I don't like comic-book movies" just mention that this is essentially one of those. It's like saying I don't like movies done from original scripts. It's the story that matters, not the way it was written down.
Here in Chile in the so called "social explosion", military and police had no problem shooting people supposedly with rubber bullets, but there were like 300 people blinded by them, more than a thousand wounded and several hundred dead. Police and military are mostly infiltrated by the far right and they still support the efforts against social change. At least in Chile we can't trust them about protecting people. There is a case of one soldier that refused to follow orders to repress marching people, he was put in jail but civil justice got him liberated. However he lost the chance to make a career in the army and of course he is in danger of being a target for extremist within the numbers of his own army.
There isn't even a need for "far right", police forces in particular are on average quite a bit more conservative than the general population, the very job description is along the lines of "upholding current laws" (read: for the most part very "traditional" laws that the people joining the police grew up with and internalized as their "values"). Which isn't necessarily a problem, but those values (and the, let's face it, tribalism that police and military training pretty much always instills) all too often take priority over serving the actual population. Add actual fear of punishment, maybe even of one's family and friends, to that mix, and it's no wonder how easy it is to get police and military forces to go against the very people they're supposed to serve 😢 The problem is that we _need_ some kind of monopoly of violence. I have no idea whether there even could be an actually good solution to all this, but a starting point is to change the training for police and military forces, to train them to see that service _for the people, each and every one of them_ as the highest ideal. Compassion and de-escalation are key, but that takes time and good teachers, so it's far more expensive than just giving them a list of rules to enforce and some combat training.
@@Wolf-ln1ml At least here in Chile is a lost cause. And I talk about my own experience with my father and some of my acquaintances, all policemen. With all due respect for you, I talk about the policeman I have known personally, including my father. Police and army in Chile are infiltrated by the far right, it's not a supposition, it's something we all know here. And it's worst, in some units there are cells of the NSDAP supported by German descent commanders (like ex general in chief herr Stange, which my dad served with). Here politicians after the demise of the social burst are thinking seriously about the foundation of a new police corps, with the kind of training you suggest, would be awesome, but army, navy and air force will remain the same way, even if they get "modernized". I'm not telling you that you are not right, but Chile is a very specific case.
@@cesarvidelac Oh, I didn't mean to say that there aren't far right extremists in the police forces, I just meant to say that in general, you don't even _need_ them in there for things to go badly, but that "normal" police forces are already in enough danger of being used against the population. When there indeed _are_ far-right extremists in high enough positions and/or large enough numbers, it's absolutely a nightmare...
@@Wolf-ln1ml Yes, sorry, also didn't meant to correct you. Just point out my experience in Chile. You are right in your analysis and one thing that shocked me about Chilean experience in particular was that at the same time in other parts of the world we saw the same behaviors in countries that were so different... the repression was painfully similar, same tactics, same training! Hong Kong, Russia, the US, Chile, Nicaragua, Venezuela, all within a short space of time between 2018 and 2020. Yes, it's a nightmare that is still going on apparently 😢
@@nateman10 I haven't seen it but I can see that here in my country. Left or right... they are all employed by the same "interests". They just keep the names and the masks 👍
A fine film, and notable to me for the late, great John Hurt playing the antagonist in this film against his own role as protagonist Winston Smith in 1984.
One of my favorite movies. Thanks for looking at it guys! The movie has a lot of themes and motifs that sometimes take a couple watches to catch them all. If you think of Fear as a cancer in a society as V describes it, then in V's eyes he's basically performed chemo therapy to Eve's Cancer. The problem with this of course was that she didn't sign up for it. Which is why he's not mean't to be the perfect angel of a protagonist, but rather the monster that they created. But he cured her nonetheless. One of the better written screenplays in my opinion. Thanks again!
There is one important detail from the graphic novel they left out or maybe it fell on the cutting floor. At a point the cops figure out that V had hacked their computer system from the beginning. In the graphic novel it factors in a little more often, but this was how he was able to send the masks and capes to the TV station in the beginning and later to everyone. It's also safe to assume that this was how he had all of the masks and capes made, by a factory of the state. On computer network for the entire government to better control everything. There is an interesting parallel from 'The Count of Monte Christo' and 'V for Vendetta'. In both cases the print version has quite a few more characters and story compared to their movie versions.
This is a Fantastic film. If George wants to see more of Stephen Fry doing comedy, then you HAVE to watch Blackadder Goes Forth. A hilarious and yet poignant take on the 1st world war.
If you grew up post 90s you actually don't realise how much freedom you haven't got. No digital ID, no mass surveillance, no smartphones tracking everything. As the people born in pre- 70s get older and dissapear so does the memories of freedom. People today live in a virtual prison that gets worse every year yet they think they are actually free. This movie, 1984, the Running Man, Soylent green all used to be futuristic sci-fi movies now all becoming reality.
You know the Gunpowder Plot might of worked, if one of the conspirators hadn't tipped off a friend in parliament to maybe not go on that day who then immediately went to the Lord Chamberlin who had parliament searched and found Guy Fawkes. The other conspirators were also caught, there were like 11 of them. Note; Fawkes used the pseudonym "John Johnson" to pose as a servant in a building next to Westminster Palace.
