V30's = Thinner, but bright and cutting. VHT = Incredibly muscular and ballsy. Very full. Marshalls = beautifully balanced. My favorite from the bunch. But that was such a quality shootout, the tone was incredible overall regardless of speaker. Instantly brought me back to the old In Flames vibe.
I’m surprised I can hear such a difference even on iPad speakers. The Marshall vintage sounds the most full and musically appealing to me. Great video as always, Euge!
Never stop uploading, man. Everything you do is quality! Anyhoo, I imagine an SD 1 would work better with the Marshall Vintage, more low end cut and such.
Thank goodness your doing this video. So many are mis informed about the Marshall Vintage saying it's Not a Vintage 30, or there is no difference in tone. This video will prove them all incorrect. I bought a used Marshall 1960BV a few months ago, also have a Marshall 2536 Silver Jub 2x12 cab same speakers. I will never part with these 2 cabs for sure. Great video again my friend. Keep up the good work.
Another quality video from you sir. I am pleasantly amazed at the P50 speaker, it has a smoothness to it that I like. Thanks so much for all the informative videos that you have made. They are a huge help.
Well done interesting comparison. They each definitely have their own sound. I was very impressed with the Marshall tone! I also really like the Celestion's. I have 2 of them in a Mesa Recto cab and that is my favorite cab for anything heavy/aggressive.
Thanks for posting this. so is the V30 you used in this shootout the new version with the see through dust cap? seems like maybe not since it has the excessive bite to it, the new production version is supposed to sound much more like they did in 2000. your comments?
The Marshall is the most full and balanced. Fryette has some really tasty mid scoop which I like. Great for Metal. Now I wanna put 2 of them into my Marshall BV 4:12 cab;)
Much bigger fan of the original Marshall Vintage speaker and the P50E really surprised me. The modern V30 uses a lot of different materials vs the original and it shows.
Very good video. I'd love to see you make similar video only adding one more element in here and that would be the hesu demon element. Alternatively there could be comparison of all these elements in their own respective 4x12 cabinets. In this video the Marshall one one was best for my ears - Rock on!
It's not fully mix-ready for my taste because of the low end but I like it. The Marshall V30 sounds the best, the Celestion V30 sounds a bit harsh as you said but it sounds good too and even the P50 is not bad.
@@MarcosCerutti I meant for the guitar tracks and Euge also said at 8:03 that he didn't use eq (either) on the individual channels because he wanted we hear the honest sound of the speakers.
The best sounding speaker I've ever found inside a combo amp, is the 40W Celestion that came with the craptastic Line 6 amp I bought many years ago, right now, I'm enjoying the 50W speaker(no idea what it is)that's in my VOX 50w combo.
Great comparison Euge! Good sound difference... The other video you made comparing the Vintage Marshall vs. the V30, I thought the V.M. sounded better and once again same here... Very cool man!
Confirms my preference for P50E’s. They are very good at short rythmic breaks and have the fullest low end in any of my cabs (Mesa 412 OS, PPC212, OR4x12, FatBottom 412 and 212). I like that you show important things like mic positioning, the amp eq etc. One thing: is that a Greenback wired together with the V30? Couldn’t that 25W affect the tone of the 60W (or how much was it) of the v30? I have currently Greenbacks and P50E wired together and the P50E’s don’t sound so full configured like this.
Love the vid! I wanna see you do a comparison of the dv77 vs v30 out of the 800 people are talking up the dv77 like it’s a better v30 would love to see you compare them !
Great comparison. In the previous video I liked the C V30 with 5150 but in the mix the Marshall wins. But let’s wait till you get the Mesa one ;) And try to get an early 2000s model, at least pre 2005.
@@hyperbolekid all Mesa’s (and Marshalls) have UK speakers. Check out Nolly’s findings about „the best” Mesa V30. He claims the best were around 2000-2003. I have a 2002 and have played a 2001, 2002, 2007 and 2007. I can confirm the earier ones sound better.
Hallo Euge, I recently paired 2 P50e with the Marshall G12 Vintage in my 1960 cab. I use this cab with a 2006 VHT Pittbull 50CL and it sounds good to my ears. Have you tried this combination or did you prefer all P50e or all G12 Vintage? Thank you for taking the time to make these awesome videos. Good balance of engineering and practical advice
Yeah! I have four of those speakers (sold my cab, kept the speakers) and might be willing to sell two of them so email me if you’re interested: evalovirta@gmail.com
Great content 🤘 do you record for the album in your own studio? Maybe Jesper wanted this song in the halo effect 😄 I like the Celestion v30 best for this..sounds like older in flames.
To my ears the Marsh V30 is king , but 2nd would be P50 and last Cel V30. Too bad you don't have a Mesa V30 to compare as well ;) Awesome comparison video here!!! \m/
great video with great content. Surprisingly, I didn't like the p50e at all in the mix, though they were pretty cool on the leads. The Marshall just made the other speakers sound poor in comparison. However, is there any chance of you putting the p50e into a different, front loaded cab as recommended by Steven Fryette? I doubt that would make a drastic difference though
Thanks! Don’t have the Fryette Fat Bottom cab anymore (and nor the speakers) but here’s one I did a while ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qjiaHs3X2M0.html
I think a lot of it has to do with the tonal familiarity. In the 90s so many albums from the Melodic Death Metal scene were recorded with the 5150 running through a Marshall 1960AV/BV cab loaded with the Marshall G12 Vintage speakers that its tone is very instantly recognizable.
?? I have never used a mic on cab to record before. I live in apartment and can't get to loud. My ? Is how loud does it have to be to actually get good tone for a recording. I assume loud cause your cabs are in a closet lol. Maybe I should convert a closet in same way for cab recording.
I’d stick with IR’s…they can sound as great as a well mic’d cab whereas mic’ing a cab is a whole new skill to learn plus the amp needs to be loud and overly small rooms can sound boxy…it’s not worth the effort in your situation plus you get to have tons of speaker and mic options for next to nothing in terms of cost.
I don’t remember 😎. I have two quite new ones and one from the 90s. I think I used the 90s one on this but they all sound pretty much the same with minor differences from each other like with any speakers.
I use both. Whatever does the job the best in any given situation. Lately I’ve been using more real cab etc. ’cos there’s something appealing when using real gear. It’s not necessarily any better but just different. More real I guess 😎.
In the end, there IS NO BEST! All have a sound that you might want in a particular place or song, and they all give us possibilities we need to make our music unique and special...yes, even the worst speakers can give you that "something special" that makes a song stick to your brain-thing like superglue.
I like them all. My Marshall V30's sound great with my JCM900 SL-X & my JMP 2204 but they are too buzzy with my JCM800 2204. My JCM800 sounds better with V30/G12H-Anniversaries or G12T-75's.
I’m not digging the fryette it’d probably sound good in an oversized recto cab . The Marshall speaker sounded the best the P50 did sound good on the solo section.
If I had to have one, it would be the Celestion 30W...you forget the job of the guitarist is not to produce the bass end, that's why we have bass players, don't push them out of a job.
