I am working 4 days a week in my Homeoffice. So as long as OLED has this burn in problem, it will never be an option. Even if it is solved 98%, it still exists
For me, it's that I'm lookin' for a monitor to hold me over until microLED gets practical. If that were just a few years away, sure, but practical microLED is perpetually 5-10 years away. Need a panel I can trust for 5-10 years, not 3-5.
I prefer mini led but va isent bad ether of you chose something like neo8/7 or the BenQ series pretty good monitors I just don't think qd is worth it if you want more than 1
I'm not sure why the comparison is done between an old school VA panel vs a QD-OLED panel. The only worthwhile comparison here would be a miniLED VA panel vs a QD-OLED panel, then we can start talking about which is better and in what scenario.
The comparison is between two of the same brand monitors. Also, modern VA monitors are really good in image quality and image response compared to old ones. Also, OLED monitors are really expensive compared to TV OLED monitors.
@@patriciomateluna2223 That gap in price has closed considerably this year, with last year's crop of OLED monitors now available for around $700 USD. Asus even has a new 27-inch 1440p OLED with a glossy coating for the same price last I checked.
@@TheQuebecerInFranceyou should probably say "unsurprisingly" in this context. Monitors are one of those niche items that manufacturers feel they can charge more than TV's for because they sell way more high-end TV's annually than Gaming monitors.
I like the CONCEPT of this video -- and you're the first I've seen take it on -- but it just seems like THIS VA panel wasn't really designed for HDR content. HDR is the WHOLE point of QD-OLED, so a competing VA panel should at least be ATTEMPTING to deliver a good HDR experience.
I agree but I'm also a very heavy user too with never turning my screens off and I have mostly static content on at least one of my screens most of the time. My last screen had over 25k hours on it within a 5 or 6 year period lol so if I couldn't have an oled last that amount of time with zero risk of burn in then I don't want it tbh.
back to IPS. Ghosting is a no-no when gaming , then text will annoy me to death . They would both annoy me so much i would be spending time to mitigate the issues instead of working/playing.
Certainly interesting. I've owned three VA panels - XG49VQ, XG27WQ & up until recently; the XG32VC. The best of the bunch was the XG27WQ - excellent image quality and a fast, responsive panel with little ghosting. The XG49VQ exhibited a little, yet the XG32VC was terrible for it. You really need to look a the panel on these units. I've just upgraded to the OLED PG27AQDM and it is absolutely incredible. Of all the monitors I've ever owned this blows them all away, zero contest.
@@TechTesters This channel just popped into my head the other day and I was wondering where you guys have been. I hope everything is okay. I miss your content.
I appreciate that they didn't use you as a pretty face for the channel - its obvious you REALLY know your stuff and thats awesome. Love the content, I see a lot more viewers in your future if you keep up with these quality reviews!
Tried an Alienware aw3243awf this weekend and I returned it, the text look a little fuzzy. Huge disappointment but there is no way I could have work all day on this.
I bought a VA panel because I don't game much anymore. Also, Samsung really tuned the Odyssey Neo G8 in such a way that really minimizes the motion blur problem. I get good HDR without risk of burn-in and without motion blur. The only real downside is that bad wobbly stand.
Yea I'm good with VA because I only game once in a blue moon, but I code and consume media on a daily basis. The deeper blacks are more important to me, and after using IPS for so many years the backlight bleed and gray blacks just makes me mad! Unfortunately most monitor reviews are geared towards gamers so what I want from a monitor is barely covered
@@Quiselott unless you're going for top-tier VA like Neo G7/G8, you're gonna end up with plenty of black smearing which basically renders dark mode (i.e. white text on black background) completely useless when scrolling.
A better comparison would be the mini-LED I think. I've seen at least one ASUS large-sized monitor with mini-LED that just looks great in HDR compared to a QD-OLED.
Thank you for comparison! But I will never buy a product that will 100% be damaged by it's normal use in such short time period. Although that's a nice techlonogy, I will be waiting for MicroLED monitors and TVs. By the way, OLED's anti burn-in modes are not restoring anything, they basically try to bring normal pixels to the level of burnt ones. Basically, mode to degrade quality :D At least now warranty partly covers burn-in problem, but personally I still don't care :)
@@hirschkuh1982cause it's stupid. You want a FALD VA to achieve the best of what LCD can offer compared to an OLED in terms of contracts. A edge light VA vs an OLED Is like comparing a fiat 500 Vs a BMW M series; of course the Oled would be better,Lol.
I don't think this comparison makes any sense, is that VA monitor miniled? I have the G7 and after trying one of the first oleds I stayed with the VA miniled panel, I haven't tried the 3rd gen oleds though.
Yas qdoled is way better but at a significant additional cost, sometimes almost double of good. Only when the qd_oled price drops to va level most of us will consider it. Always good to see this type of comparisons where we can see what more money gets us so we can decide if is it worth it for ourselves
I think you should compare high-end VA Panels like the Samsung Odyssey lineup, you're comparing a cheap VA panel, rather than an expensive one, to an expensive OLED panel, which is obviously an unfair test. OLEDs still cannot compete in brightness. I think it is wrong to conclude based on middling performance from a VA panel, that the technology is inferior. If you have a preference for OLED, that's fine. But neither is really inferior to the other. I have both and prefer VA mini-LED, a good VA miniLED monitor is a better monitor for gaming and watching movies imo.
Va monitor for browsing and an oled TV for content and gaming is peak. Can't expect one single screen to do everything well. QD OLED for a browsing monitor in particular is crazy, it WILL burn-in.
The ABL and ASBL that is in every OLED display made today makes this technology a non-starter for me. From a color reproduction perspective, the inability to get true white across the entire screen makes editing way too difficult and you can't trust what you are seeing as color accurate
There is a warranty if you are worried. I have had multiple oled monitors and tvs and nothing can compare to them. They are a 1000 times better. Burn-in was a thing that happened to these but it’s not a thing anymore. I have 12k hours on my lg c2 and 15 k on my Sony. ZERO burn in 😂
The burn in is grossly over stated. Many people have been using them for years, even for productivity, and have had zero burn in. At this point its just mostly fear mongering. Unless you actively go out to try and get burn in, smart usage will likely not cause it. Btw even an IPS monitor can get image retention if you leave something up long enough, for example a task bar.
Good point on not having the need to warranty burn ins. What's the use of a 3-year warranty if 1 day right after the 3rd year you get burn in? Until the time that OLED tech is cheaper and then confident and mature enough to not have those new-tech kinks, even making you do rituals (pixel refresh lmao), better save yourself from some anxiety, stress, and money and just stick to ole reliables IPS or VA.
The last time I had a VA panel was 2006 era with a 17” 4:3 that had no hdmi. Just vga and dvi. I still remember how bad the colours and smearing was. But was good enough for Unreal Tournament and Battlefield 2.
Great video, but I am gonna get myself the new W-OLED glossy screen (27 inch). Seemed very nice. I had a QD-OLED screen but it is more grayish than deep black imo.
Some people need to be careful with the motion handling aspect. If your GPU/CPU are not driving fast enough frame rates, the OLED panels may expose a "sample and hold" motion blur effect that can be distracting. The pixel response time is so fast that the "motion blur" effect of IPS/VA panel isn't there and can expose this sensitivity to content that would otherwise look OK on the IPS/VA at around 60fps.
On my lg c2 there is a cinema toggle that accounts for that. There is also an option to turn on motion blur in game, so this problem seems to be solved already. But yeah, that's an important knowledge.
@@maxburmab7962 Cinema is still motion smoothing, which I do use to watch movies on my LG CX, but this review was for PC monitors and you're not going to get motion smoothing on them. Motion blur in games does help a little but most people don't seem to like that effect either.
@@pogtuber5146 but it's not gonna be worse than playing on an LCD monitor, right? And regardless of monitor, low framerate would require motion blur anyway in my opinion.
@@maxburmab7962 I have a VA monitor as well as my LG OLED and yes, a 60fps game is going to look worse on the TV than the monitor. It's not much worse, but I know myself and many others that have posted who seem to get bothered by it more on the OLED than on an LCD panel.
Met andere woorden, doe je 60% van de tijd dat de monitor aanstaat spelletjes dan is QD-OLED te overwegen en anders bij office applicaties, programmeren, etc. is de VA-monitor een beter optie. QD-OLED voor gaming en video, VA-Monitor voor al het andere.
I'm in the market for another 34" curved 21:9 monitor, but the market for VA panels here is so much worse than 16:9 (I'm not willing to deal with OLED burn in with static images). In 27" there are a ton of mini-LED options with a VA panel, but in 34" the newest one is Viewsonic's XG341C-2K that costs $1500, has been out for going on 2 years and isn't worth the price. Acer is supposed to be putting out a Predator X34 MiniLED at some point this year (originally was supposed to be Q2 2024) for $900 and this is one which would be a great comparison for these OLED displays.
I wish micro-LED was widespread already. I know the tech is very limited and very fresh, but I think we desperately need something that can finally leapfrog this neck-and-neck race between monitor types. VA and IPS struggle with blacks. OLEDs struggle with brightness, burn-in, and perpetually high production cost. We're close though. I can almost taste it through my cheap VA monitor that I haven't updated in a decade because I'm afraid of buying something that's dead-end tech.
Those shopping for a monitor need to consider their room too. If you typically have lighting, the poor blacks from an IPS or VA won't be a huge detractor. If you're in a dark room, definitely consider OLED.
Every OLED will eventually have Burn-In & that's inevitable... Using an OLED panel for a computer monitor with current problems is a clear invitation for lots & lots of problems! Additional to the obvious Burn-In & Text clarity problems, the "fan noise" is another thing to consider while using... No, I'll pass OLEDs for now !
Even IPS displays can get permanent image retention. For example, many people, including myself, have seen the task bar get "burned" into their displays over time. If you treat the OLED right, the chance of burn in is incredibly low and you will likely replace the monitor with an upgrade before it happens. Most people with burn in issues either ignore the preventive measures built into the display, or constantly run them with peak brightness on and no sleep with inactivity. Text is not an issue with OLED, its not the best but not horribly bad either. Newer OLED panels have largely improved on that front. As for fans, only the Alienware models have them if I am not mistaken. The MSI model she is showing off in this video uses passive cooling, and no fans.
@@deuswulf6193 funny how you have to babysit your expensive OLED monitor just because the tech isn't quite up there yet. Burn in happening is like having range anxiety in an EV. It might not happen but you'll keep on being worried that it might happen at one point (or two or three lmao).
@@elevate38 I don't have to baby sit it. Weak attempt at hyperbole btw. Its a matter of setting it up to work optimally in your favor, nothing more, nothing less. HDR kicks in for gaming, desktop mode for non gaming, inactivity puts it to sleep and during that sleep it automatically does a pixel refresh. Non OLED monitors are set up to do the same thing (with the exception of pixel refresh). If all that is too hard for you, then its an end user problem, and not a product problem. Expensive OLED? You can get a QD OLED ultrawide for the same price as some the non OLED monitors. $700-1000 is not expensive to me for a top of the line monitor. You are clearly ignorant about the current market. What it suggests to me is that you only buy the cheap stuff, and maybe that is what this is really about, envy. Do you hate on nvidia as well, because their top of the line cards start at the $1k mark? Are you just cheap and won't admit it?
I want a 65" 8K 120hz Mini-LED completely bezel free Monitor with amazing Quantum Dot color and HDR peak brightness up to 4000 nits that can also do 4K 240hz for gaming. Oh wait, that exists, it's a Samsung QN900D.
I have made a 2560x1440 pic folder with pics I have downloaded and numerous screenshots from within games like FarCryNew Dawn. Then its personalization/themes/background slideshow and have them rotate every minute. Dont have desktop Icons ( have an Elgato StreamDeck) and hide the taskbar. Thats my burnin protection on my lg oled.
@@kennethpereyda5707 I find the elgato stream deck to be just like a touch screen that can launch my apps . The colours are something else and one of my better buys
Would be curious how a va panel with full array local dimming would fair. I'm using an ROG PG35v (VA with full array local dimming), and the 1000 nitt peak, with 500nit sustained is very good next to a window.
Curved 240 Hz 38" 21:9 3840x1600 in VA form with Samsung reaction time would be endgame for me, I have the 32" G7 but want the wide screen experience without going pricey and demanding of the ultrawide G9, this would be great middle ground, pixel density not as high as a 4K 32" monitor but much better than my G7, currently there are only IPS and 170 Hz refresh rate with these specs unfortunately.
Thanks so much for your informative reviews! It's getting more and more confusing to know what to actually get with computer stuff and this channel helps alot.💕💕
VAs have notorious smearing, they can't transition fast enough and you are suck to smaller displays as if you get too large (and not curved enough) you get discoloration. Its far from being the best of both worlds.
@@wx2999 they absolutely do. I bought one of the newer Samsung Odyssey VA monitors, it's still a smear fest. if you look at ratings, all the new VA monitors have smearing as one of the cons in their reviews.
Hard to make arguments for VA these days. Well, other than price of course. You’re looking at a 2x minimum (outside Murica) spending for the same stats. Unless OLEDs get into the 400- 500s $, it’s still won’t be mainstream.
This comparison is kinda pointless. You should have compared an OLED with a miniled VA panel, that would be a more fair comparison which would put them in a similar price bracket, too.
Thank you so much for posting this excellent video. Your presentation is excellent. I very much appreciate your presentation of the facts about these panels including the test results. The videography is outstanding. I listen carefully to your comments. I would certainly like to see tests of additional panels, with both gaming and text-based work in mind. I'm interested in getting a display that is around 34 inches and can handle text really well. I do quite a lot of writing and reading. Most of my work is text based. I'm planning to retire in about 3 years, and it might be good for me to upgrade to a better display until that day. Thank you so much for this excellent discussion.
I had the same thoughts 5 years ago, until I placed a VA and now an OLED panel beside my IPS screen which looks CLOUDY and HAZY in comparison. The differences better contrast on the VA and OLED panels makes to an image is incredibly significant. Colors pop, image look 3 dimensional, I could now ACTUALLY see and enjoy movies with a lot of night scenes e.g batman vs superman / godzilla, whereas on my IPS night scenes looks hazy, just PLAIN hot trash.
@@thetinkerer5322 Exactly this. It has been years since my last IPS panel, have never looked back. Once you try a panel which has better contrast ratio, there's no way IPS will look "sufficient" anymore.
"sufficient" is certainly a word to describe technology that does its job perfectly fine. It's easy to say anything is "sufficient" when you've never actually experienced the new tech.
For me VA is a no go with its blurring and black smearing on screen. I’d much rather get either an IPS ….preferably one with HDR and FALD or an OLED. 🥰💪😇👍🥳🥳. I’d rather save my money longer for the better alternative than waste it on a VA based panel 🙂↕🤦🤦♂🤦♀🙈
