These heads are awesome. Really speeds up harvest. First one i ever saw here NC was a older agco 6000 on a gleaner. Ive seen them harvest wheat, oats, rye, and even milo before a hurricane. Nice video as always btp!!🚜
We have ran those same headers before in wheat. You can travel pretty fast with them . We ran them on 2 9870sts combines we were going 5 mph in 120 bushel wheat fine with no grain loss . We still have the heads we use them when we custom harvest wheat and oats. We tend to use our draper heads as the tall stubble is difficult to plant through in our area . We found that in dry years cutting the wheat low helps the double crops emerge faster . Those striper heads work great if you want to harvest fast and save fuel and they reduce grain loss. The down fall is that you can run wider with a regular head .
I'm very impressed B.T.P.,the shelbourne stripper head is the way to go,it uses less hp.,processes more product,makes a much wider cut then any conventional bine head,plus run at dramatically higher ground speeds,it's the only way to go.
I never saw this type of grain harvesting using a vacuum to extract the wheat kernel. It makes sense and less horse power is needed. Thank's for showing the shelbourne. 🚜👍
I liked that Gleaner that you showed across the road from the field you were in. The silver combines have always been a favorite of mine going back to the late 1950s when I was on the farm as a teenager. I hope that you get the chance to film one, old or new.
Just when I had a few questions about the speed and the conditions required for that special head, cue BTP to come at the right time during the video to answer them. Thank you.
The shelbourne header is great. The combine is threshing under ideal conditions by running the grain heads only. Less fuel, internal wear, and seves can carry the load perfectly
There is a video on youtube called -- Kalcevic farms harvest 2018 with Walters Harvesting from Canada -- there 10 case 8240's with shelbournes harvesting and 4 s680's, now thats some fast harvesting.
Guys, they're running the draper so low & slow for a reason - like BTP mentioned in the video, a LOT of the crop was fallen, and they actually want to harvest as much of it as they can, not leave it in the field. Drop that draper on the ground, shave the field, and trade time and fuel for a greater yield. At the end of the day, it's all about actually harvesting the grain after all, no matter what compromises need to be made to do so. Another great vid as usual, those stripper heads are impressive pieces of engineering!
My neighbor bought one for flax. He said it really worked well as flax straw is a mess to get rid of, so the stalk stays standing breaking down over the next season without needing to burn piles of chaff straw.
This is a fantastically interesting video, I have never seen a double crop done like this, it's amazing. Blue header on a JD triggers my OCD a bit though. Just to add I never realised the UK plant is just down the road from me and I never knew.
There's nothing wrong with leaving a 6-8 inch stand of stubble, therefore, allowing the machine to harvest at a optimum energy and put more in the bin. Also, the machine will be able to increase ground speed. It's all good; great conversation platform
I have never heard of a stripper head. Great video! Only problem is you can’t harvest beans I assume. Looks like that reel header was cutting a bit lower than what I remember. I think our stubble was up about mid shin.
It would be interesting to see what the tons/hr of grain for the two were, as well as tons/gallon of diesel fuel consumed for both, assuming the farmer would be willing to divulge this sort of information.
It would. Great question. I wish I had asked while filming. I would say by observation the Shelbourne is going to win hands down. I will try to ask in the future.
Ran one of these shelbourne fronts against a 40ft draper front on a case 8120. Able to go 2-4km faster with the stripper, fuel was down I think 15-20% and tonnage was up was up around 60-70tonne an HR. With the draper the 8120 was running at 105-110% HP and with the stripper it was 70-80%.
@@Lordy29 There is so much less stuff for combine to process, so it will always be easier, faster and efficient to harvest. THe only thing that I would be worried about is if there are grain losses in a header, how it performs in very low laying crop and in field that is not that dense.
@@Lordy29 Wow, those are incredibly impressive numbers! If these header companies could get this sort of information out to farmers growing small grains and maybe a field test, I would imagine that they could really earn some converts!
So you can harvest earlier when the stalks are still green. Does that mean you can avoid needing to put glyphosate on the mature crop to keep it from germinating in the field? That'd be a huge money saver if so.
Is there any way to measure waste per acre with Shelbourne header as opposed to the conventional sickle/thresher. If there is less lost grain in the combining with the Shelbourne it has to be the preferred platform in overall productivity, stem to grainery. Thanks for the video. I really enjoy them.
We grow ancient grain varieties, very tall wheat, 2/3 of it falls over. Illinois is not wheat country, we’re a bit humid for it. We swath what is most susceptible to sprouting in the field, and stripper head a lot also. We do some conventional harvest if we can and recover a yellow pea crop we plant in to the wheat when the ground is semi frozen. It’s a great protein booster for our feed customers who want a soy free product. If we can’t get it, that’s fine, it’s all going to a dense warm season cover crop for cow chow and will blend in to the mix just fine What a stripper is really good for is harvesting cover crop seed over an active soybean crop. We’re able to save $500k in cover crop seed. If it doesn’t pass germination standards it gets worked in to feed ration mixes. That’s why I have a ton of small bins, to keep the crop from different fields separate, until I know what we achieved.
They were especially popular in the UK 25 years ago when there was a subsidy on growing Linseed as that stuff is soooo tough to cut with a conventional knife header and ripens late in the season when dry days are hard to come by and the stalks are even tougher when damp.
how do they set up the depth of the stripper head ? because the weels on the stripper head can move in depth due to the feathers , or do they just playing in height with the head by hand ?
Awesome video! Don’t see many stripper headers like that, looks like it does a awesome job! Those double crops is so strange for me! Don’t see that here in Southern Manitoba!
Neat piece of equipment, Jason. Like you said early in the video, it functions like a giant agitator head for a vacuum cleaner. Does it take more or less horsepower to run this kind of head, and is there more or less crop loss? Good bit of history on display here.
Matthew Hoag takes way less horsepower. And as far as crop loss goes, you can usually have less than a regular setup, but you need to stay on top of your settings. Header rotor speed needs to change regularly, as well as sieves and fan speeds. So as long as there’s someone in the cab that can do more than push autosteer it’s a sweet deal.
Have you videoed an "air reel"? Tubes with air blowing the grain stalks into the cutterbar/auger/conveyor belt. Sheesh, we thought it peaked in 1990 with 36 foot Mak-Don headers..
Yall lucky out there, here in ohio I still got 800 acres of corn and 1000 acres of beans to plant. Been raining a lot here, it don't work out to good when you can only plant 1 day a week.
I would also like to tell you about the Sunbelt Ag Expo In Moultrie,Georgia. I think it’s in mid October if you don’t have any plans you should check it out! My Grandpa took me my brother every year. It’s a huge event.
Saw a field stripped like that yesterday. I wondered how a combine did it leaving the stalks of straw so long and still standing. Now I know how it was done.
There benefits in having what I would a close front or header compare to open front like draper. But travelling slow is put hours on combine but reduce trashing wear on rotor. Pa like his MF 3342 SP combine with 18ft close front, but operating in down wheat crop is tricky with no lifters it takes a lot of concentration to harvest. Interesting total cost factor of which header do choose to do harvest.
That is one amazing header just with the speed alone would be totally worth the cost of that because of all the fuel savings plus you can have the benefit of harvesting all straw to and I can’t help I think harvesting that way that’s got to make that the combine last a lot longer than having to Process the whole plan I can’t believe I don’t see more of those around it just seems to make sense for small grain
Did thy Gleaner have tracks? Let see a video of that baby. Great video I love seeing these heads in action and thank you for being so informative. We are planting corn today in south west Missouri.
Andy Marshall I first saw it at the end of the video then had to go back and watch it when they were passing each other again but never could see the bottom of them. Is there many Mennonites is that past of the country?
The farm in this video has a 25ft Gleaner stripper head. Before MacDon entered the area in 2003 our local AGCO dealer put allot of Massey and a Gleaner stripper heads on green combines for wheat season. Do you run a Massey combine?
bigtractorpower I remember last year when we got it ready for harvest I looked at the serial number (pretty much for no reason, but that's besides the point.) The model number was 6022. 22 foot header, almost half the size of the conventional headers we use (John Deere 640 FD).
Must be difficult to see where you allready harvested or not, when you harvest at night and no gps. Does iT work in Canola, Maybe better for preventing grain loss than an extensions?
Btp. Do you have any connections with farmers down there that would be interested in letting somebody bale straw from there wheat? Or anybody here in the comments that does have connections. We are looking for several thousand acres to bale in big tractor powers building area. Kentucky/TennesseeArea
I don't think I could ever run a stripper head just because they take so much of a fun out of watching the gears in the real move that they would just make driving the combine feel too much like pushing a vacuum.
The only downside is they do not harvest soybeans. If you raise soybeans it requires the invest in a second header to cut beans in the fall. The big advantage to a Shelbourne is it lets you start a week to 10 days earlier in green stems, run earlier in the day and later at night and run faster putting less material through the combine.
BTP, Aren't soybeans harvested close to the ground? Seems to me that the second harvester pass that year would be ingesting not only the entire soybean plant, but all of the wheat straw as well.
Yes and no. I got some from a distance. I do not know the farmer and he parked before I finished filming the 9670s. I have never seen a Deutz-Allis painted this way but it looks factory. It was too cool not to slip in the video.
here some old pic's of our Gleaner's i.imgur.com/rl3etGG.jpg i.imgur.com/0QqYrqV.png i.imgur.com/PD2X0rF.png sadly the little old L2 is out of action we snapped an arm on the straw walker where still trying to find parts but there hard to come by these days but our R-62 is still going but her age is starting to show.
Love this video. Lots of shellbournes in our area. Did the Garnett farm that you always film at do any harvesting yet,Unless you have just not finished editing the videos.
samkom33 thanks. Then comes harvest time for the beans, the wheat stalks have collapsed down or do they have to processed by the harvester during the bean run?
@@jackgerberuae they usually get prosessd and chopd up during bean harvest.. but beans are usually a bit larger than wheat so its easyer to seperate. becouse those half rotten wheat straws now is dry and brittle.. instead of half green... and most of it can be blown off the heavyer beans inside the combine.
bigtractorpower I’m east of you a bit. Wheat here is all over the board. If it’s early it’s good. Mid November and later wheat is bad though. It was so wet here that some people even attempted December wheat.
