Valeria Luiselli on Tell Me How It Ends: An Essay in 40 Questions 

Starts around 2:04

The sounds levels are off for this video. In my headphones the voices go back and for between left and right. Kind of dizzying. However, great interview. Really love Luiselli's works. Thank you for sharing.

"your emotions don't matter. turn your emotional capital to political capital"

the cat at 4:06 tho

34:35 slay