Valerian and the City of Red Tape 

edwin henri Seek out the anime, Valerian and Laureline. It is much closer the French graphic novel, and at 25 episodes, it has time to explore the characters and setting.

@@melissaquinn1463 The cartoon is much different than the comics but still better then the film and it has 40 episodes.

They don't even make good cartoons, there was an anime that was based on the comics and it had the same problems the movie had.

Old thread but I’ll throwin my two cents anyways.. All comic adaptation should be animated. It would represent the source material better and we could get away from actors who get all preachy about their role (marc ruffalo/hulk) or refuses to wear the traditional costume of the character they’ve been hired to represent (jeremy rener/hawkeye). Renner really hurt the avengers movies in my opinion.

You make some pretty fair points here, and I wouldn't say that every single storyline is entirely in line with classical liberalism. Though I would say that I have mixed feelings about Welcome to Alfolol. Yes, it definitely has a clear anti-colonial theme that has some parallels to both the French/Europeans in Africa and the treatment of Native Americans in the US, I don't think that should be seen as at all at odds with libertarian philosophy. For one thing, the family that returns to the planet in that story clearly sees the planet to be their property, and in terms of their lifespans it's made fairly clear that they were only gone for a short while, so to them Earth people basically started squatting on their land while they went on vacation. For another, the storyline also recognizes how weird and complex it is to have a species be gone for thousands of years suddenly to return and want their homes back, and Valerian & Laureline offer a few different ways of coming to a compromise situation. But it does have a pretty solid property-rights theme. Much stronger than Avatar has, for that matter. Though yes, it gets a bit New-Agey. I also don't really see Empire of a Thousand Planets being a bourgeois revolution really, as nobody seems interested in egalitarianism or redistribution so much as they're interested in reinstituting a regime defined by free immigration and trade. But you're right, many of the stories are about ideas beyond classical liberalism, including themes of 1st/2nd wave feminism (and male disposibility, which is a great point!) and the horrors of war. I'm pretty ok with all these themes though :)

There tend rather toward the libertarian left : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val%C3%A9rian_et_Laureline#Critiques_sociales "Les Oiseaux du Maitre" illustrate pretty well that.

Nope. Because there are typically left libertarian; so productionist authoritarian self sacrifice for so called "state or collectivism" is not what they believe, military society is clairly also not in there conception of world (see destruction of the 20th world and "Galaxity"), and ecolo snobe hippie style primitivist is not an alternativ for why they believe, just a straw man. Valérian believe in self determination, he don't think he is apt to decide for other, that simply as that.

In France ? Oh bah je galère déjà bien assez à traduire ça en anglais go google trad ;)

The movie speak more about "L'ambassadeur des ombres ( image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/34/2/1534819490-l-empire-des-ombres-ex.png ) than "then empire of thousand..." when human want to claim hegemony on sentient (?) life in the galaxy ( image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/34/2/1534819735-human-imperialism-go-google-trad.png).

Great idea!

Kubo was one of my favorite films from last year.

I have since seen the movie a couple times. I won't get into it too much, but there was a great set-up in the first few minutes, but it got really bogged down by exposition-heavy dialogue and a story that really didn't touch on many of the themes I talk about in the video here. In my humble opinion, it also got Laureline & Valerian's characters wrong in some pretty important ways, which was surprising given how big a fan Luc Besson always said he was. In the end I did buy the movie and have watched it since I saw it in theaters, but the source material is much better. -Sean

Foundation for Economic Education Thanks for replying.

I felt like there was a decent (not great) movie hidden somewhere inside.

I watched the movie, and thought it very dull. I was puzzled about the perspective in the video until I realised it was all about the comics, not the movie. Looks like the source material is way better. I'll have to read it now.

JP Bochi yeah, I wrote/made this video before the movie was out.

Nuno Caetano I definitely caught a little bit of Ambassador of the Shadows stuff, but it seems like it's mixing a lot of elements from different books.

Yeah probably you are right, have to wait 27th July in my country to check for myself :) I said that because it is what Luc Besson himself said number of times, even when the shooting took place and he received visitors on a daily basis in Cité de cinema (his studio) the comic book they offer to them was "Ambassador of the shadows". But yeah each volume itself is 20-30 minutes reading and he had to incorporate stuff from other volumes and invent some more.

Its also stated that he has grew up on the books so overall I think he will do well with this film

For 200 million dollars for live action CGI, and failing at the box office, yes it would of been wiser to make an animated movie series, it would of saved them lots of money in the end.

Time Jam

@@blvp2145 For $200M it could have been the best animated series ever. Maybe a series of mini series covering each book.

@@thexdatabase Exactly. Time Jam was my introduction to the series, and even though it gets campy as funk at times (wild space dogs!), it's still a load of fun to watch.

Sadly, I agree.

That's interesting and in a way I agree, it felt more like a collection of shiny vignettes than a a structured narrative we're used to. I guess I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed that. But then it's present throughout much of Besson's filmmaking, from Subway to Fifth Element.

Actually the comic is not about that. Valerian is a space adventure agent and laureline is a 10th century jungle lady. Valerian rescue her and fell in love then bring her to join him as agent. They travelling time and space adventure together.

First comic released in 1967

Tolkien uses applicability, he tries to use that way more than allegory and he does

Clearly the first few comics are not the best. As it's not a very sequential series maybe try later albums. But of course not everything is perfect neither for everybody.

I'll have to check it out. I'm not very familiar with Tintin, though I'm aware of it and know it's been hugely influential. I've also seen the Spielberg movie, but it didn't do much for me.

Sean Malone well it doesn't deal with the effect of drugs just the villains are drug dealers and some of the other ones deal with politics and of course captain haddock is a alcoholic. I would suggest you read cigars of the pharaoh and it's sequel the blue lotus those two take place before he meets Captain haddock and ones with him the calculus affair & red sea shark. Thay meet in the crab with the golden claws.

Wasn't anything to do with Hollywood, actually, Valerian was an independent film in many ways. Most expensive indie ever apparently.