58k vs non minus water vritra is really not that great,between potentially having to fight despair comps that get on tick 4 with speed buff,slow,the posibility to tank that(on my account i could make a plus 48-50k vritra on vio nem and easily be close to tick 5 with ciri lead),factor in threat state reduction , i would stop using this entirely. Also for the sylvia if u have kinki u should try to build around that its free,even with my +207 vio sylvia that defense through testing never stood a chance to kinki.
Part of these counters is the defense doesn't always know what it's up against -- though in revealing does put them at risk. I try to prepare for the worst outcomes at least, and these counters won't always be 100%. I think it'll get to a rune/artifact difference when it comes down to encountering high HP -water, still have improvements I can make on the team. I just summoned Kinki recently, what would be the +2 for that team, DD + support + Kinki?
@@CloudTears been a while since i last played but people tested with triana kinki and 3rd its up to you coz i rly cant remember but basically i think it got to the point where they auto.d it.
Good amount of ways to cleave it as well since its a 1 threat comp,suicide comps should also get rid of odin , then its a wrap Odin is untunable even on swift with spd inc eff artis , and even if you somehow manage an idk 210 dd set on cr s4 there is the risk of adrianna not using s3,bad defense overall,same issue as sylvia fei + support
Probably something like a mihyang kroa bethony/chris whatever else could kill odin once and have mihyang finish up , obviously properly speed tuned with most likely spd inc eff artis or some chilling comps , i know mih kroa is much faster , now idk about the math on chilling tho
So Cloud, can you give me some teams for offense or defense using Fermion. Anything you've seen or had to deal with or know how to use Fermion in conjunction with. I've seen many, many g3 defenses using him that didn't seem great(I know its not spamable which skews its defensive capabilities). I've also been told that Fermion offenses are guaranteed victories but no one has expanded any further. Just curious if you anything that may be able to help me with him on offense and/or defense. Thanks!
Main issue I see with Fermion defenses is they forget he needs Accuracy, his strip + provoke and DEF break are quite strong for locking down. You can also treat him as potential anti-cleave and/or anti-Sonia, since he has damage mitigation and naturally high DEF. Skyfall had a Chandra, Feng Yan, Narsha defense perform well during tournament, so if you can think of Fermion as a Feng Yan there, it could give you some ideas. In the current Byungchul meta, he's also worth considering as a pair to counter turn 1 cleaves together, though if you can work a Swift threat into the Fermion defense, it's more threatening. As for offense, he's technically a dark tank, so you can work around with that.
I shared it in previous video (timestamped): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7MJ6ULvMIKo.htmlsi=G6ZWcXTq0IVtlygW&t=626 If you're in the Discord, I can also share it with you there, just ping me.
I've thought about this loss scenario and it would be from never moving or your Chacha/light tank eat an unwanted DEF break, but the lockdown on Covenant would be localized to only the AoE from Ciri/Vritra. If you can get Covenant s3 off at any point, then you should be fine, your Chacha + light tank should be able to sustain otherwise -- especially if it's automatic sustain like Felleria, though can't say yet who is the best light tank for the job.
@@CloudTears Ty for this off I test it on Europe serv at this moment the 2 bad thing can happend I saw its if its a -water vitra and he still have the threat on he can survive or if I dont manage well the threat and I got a defbreak on chacha or light tank. Maybe fran can solved the 1st problem. I prefer use a wil chacha 100 res for avoid the maximum a defbreak from vitra
