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Vanguard Is Selling Your Retirement Plan (@#$@!!) 

Rob Berger
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Vanguard has announced that it is selling 280,000 small business retirement plans to Ascensus. The transaction covers individual 401(k) plans, sometimes called Solo 401(k)s, Multi-SEP IRAs, and Simple IRAs, but not individual SEP IRAs.
Here's my take on what's going on, your options, and what this means for Vanguard.
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@Kaustavpatell
@Kaustavpatell Месяц назад
Vanguard investor since 1999, Recently, I've been pondering retirement. I've also invested $800K on S&P 500 so i could secure my financial future. i need an approach to invest in Coin that will align with my risk tolerance and financial goals
@MickyGlover
@MickyGlover Месяц назад
While the market is promising, expert guidance is essential for effective portfolio management.
@GaryNicka
@GaryNicka Месяц назад
Agreed! this is why I work with one. My $520k portfolio is well-matched for every market season yielding 85% rise from early last year to date. I and my advsor are working on more figures for this year. IMO, financial advisors are the most sought-after professionals after doctors.
@kurtKking
@kurtKking Месяц назад
I could really use the expertise of this advsors.
@randychestnut6591
@randychestnut6591 Месяц назад
I have been a Vanguard investor for a long time. They have gone downhill since Jack Bogle retired. I am unsure of Vanguard's motives after they required corporations to go Woke and pulled that stunt with the fee structure which caused large migration from one fund to another and triggered arbitrary huge capital gains for its investors staying behind in the original find. Jack Bogle would never have made this change in that manner.
@taylorism7787
@taylorism7787 Месяц назад
@@randychestnut6591Asking for good governance from the places where I invest is not “going woke.” Anyone who cares about their investment in Tesla has reason to be activist when the board wants to award the CEO $47 billion despite profits drastically falling.
@slovokia
@slovokia Месяц назад
Vanguard is like if Blackrock partnered with the Department of Motor Vehicles as a brokerage to hold its funds. It still has great investment products but their brokerage platform and customer service is like dealing with a mediocre, badly organized and indifferent government bureaucracy. Vanguard should split into two separate entities: one to manage and implement investment products and one to implemement brokerage / account administration functions. The second entity should then figure out how to charge a fair fee and implement a competent service organization.
@SammifromMiami
@SammifromMiami Месяц назад
@slovokia when we transferred our Roth i401(k) from TD Ameritrade to Vanguard it was not a pleasant experience. When I first contacted Vanguard the person I spoke with said she would be my point of contact and would walk me smoothly through the process. Never was able to speak with her again. Had many multiple opportunities because they kept effing up the process.
@Dividendflywheel
@Dividendflywheel Месяц назад
Great idea. Perhaps a third entity to create and manage the products (offered on all platforms).
@genzinvesting8405
@genzinvesting8405 Месяц назад
You are pronouncing it correctly - they are a plan administrator. These plans are a nightmare to administer with all the DOL and IRS requirements, so probably smart for Vanguard to get out of this business.
@zoner__
@zoner__ Месяц назад
It doesn't work for Vanguard because most administrators use high fee mutual funds in the options, hence the $20 fee for using Vanguard funds. Number one reason for not leaving funds in 401K after leaving employer.
@joebrouillard565
@joebrouillard565 Месяц назад
You are a good man Rob. Thanks for looking out for our best interest.
@Carlos72797
@Carlos72797 Месяц назад
Vanguard taught me that a 0.02% management fee is much better than a 0.03% fee. Now the website makes it difficult to avoid accidentally signing up for a 0.3% robo-advisor fee.
@andreacorbifein
@andreacorbifein Месяц назад
Thank you, Rob! I have past experience with Ascensus and thought it was awful. Almost zero transparency! My old 401k was with Ascensus and AB (active management) and I fought for years to get better options. Now with Fidelity and so much happier. I'd advise jumping ship for those affected.
@twhite8308
@twhite8308 Месяц назад
I hope Vanguard is making adjustments to stay true to Bogel's ideas.
@jhrielly
@jhrielly Месяц назад
There’s more to this.
@johnc4789
@johnc4789 Месяц назад
It appears more like Vanguard is trying to increase revenue by any means that goes against Bogle's ideas. Not impressed by Vanguard's CEO.
@larryjones3017
@larryjones3017 Месяц назад
Vanguard has many well managed funds.
@johnc4789
@johnc4789 Месяц назад
@@larryjones3017 And ETFs.
@MILGEO
@MILGEO Месяц назад
As a long time Vanguard shareholder and Bogle fan, I can say that they gave up on following his approach years ago (sadly)!
@oceansunsetak
@oceansunsetak Месяц назад
Thanks for the update Rob. I heard about this on Google News a while ago but didn't really understand 10 years ago 50% Fidelity 50% Vanguard was never user-friendly today about 10% in Vanguard money markets
@tankeryanker4671
@tankeryanker4671 Месяц назад
Early bird gets the worm. I enjoy the morning videos. 🐦 🐛 ☕️ I have no complains with Vanguards site. Their customer service is horrible and rude at times. They do not want customers calling in. They want customers to use the site only. Definitely not a personable experience. If vanguard raises fees on index funds, I’ll leave! 🙂‍↔️
@davidr5098
@davidr5098 Месяц назад
Totally agree, customer service is rude. As Rob said, the system is already outdated, definitely needs a revamp.
@tankeryanker4671
@tankeryanker4671 Месяц назад
@@davidr5098 vanguard threatened to close my accounts because I called in too many times with questions about my account last year. I called in 2 times in 1 month. Pretty wild. I actually got a certified letter from vanguard.
@rightwingprofessor1356
@rightwingprofessor1356 Месяц назад
My experience is different. As PAS client, I "pay" 30 basis points a year for a Personal Advisor, and my service is professional and excellent. That aside, Vanguard does not have the platform/web site that Fidelity has. I have no experience with Schwab. While I have had a few "less than knowledgeable" Vanguard service reps, none have been rude.
@Dividendflywheel
@Dividendflywheel Месяц назад
My exact experience (rude customer service). I went elsewhere and I am happy (ecstatic) where my money is appreciated.
@ginamurray711
@ginamurray711 Месяц назад
This is very helpful. I just found your channel. Thank you 😊
@torchy187
@torchy187 Месяц назад
Fidelity Investor since 1995. Very happy.
@1369usmc
@1369usmc Месяц назад
Fidelity is by far the best. Best tools. Best customer support. Best advisors. If you have at least $500k you can get a personal advisor (usually local) for free. Something to consider if that if you have left your job, speak to a Fidelity advisor. They will advise on keeping it at your company or rolling it over. Anyone 55 or older who gets laid off should be able to keep it at your company and start taking penalty free distributions. You still pay tax on the withdrawals but no added penalties. You may consider that before rolling it out of the company. Always ask the advisor if (s)he is a fiduciary. If they are, they must work in your best interest even if it goes against the company's benefit. .. from a Fidelity fanboy.
@larryjones3017
@larryjones3017 Месяц назад
Fidelity has been good for me. They are offering ROTH IRA 's now.
@zoner__
@zoner__ Месяц назад
Runs ring's around Vanguard. Stick to mutual funds Vanguard. What a terrible online platform.
@PandemicGameplay
@PandemicGameplay Месяц назад
Fidelity is excellent
@Wbrundog
@Wbrundog Месяц назад
I switched to Fidelity recently. Much better than Vanguard.
@Harry_16710
@Harry_16710 Месяц назад
Great info, Rob. Look at that subscriber number - should hit 200k by next month!👏👏
@stevenbrady440
@stevenbrady440 Месяц назад
Rob is so good, you are going to see some fraudsters posting here asking for help. And then other scammers reply saying they know the magic person who can bring great wealth. Or crypto scammers. One just posted and I reported it. You can see it on the set up. One person asks a softball question like I need somebody to help me. And then the fraudsters respond… Beware
@VashtiPerry
@VashtiPerry Месяц назад
Yes, I cannot stand those bots. They create whole threads of comments just to seem legitimate and some people fall for them. It's really sad
@stevenbrady440
@stevenbrady440 Месяц назад
@@VashtiPerry exactly. I think people don't fully realize this is hand of international organized crime. Nor do they fully understand that these criminals will try to steal every dime you have, and every dime that your family and friends have. And I’m sure they don’t stop there. If they can get into your computer… Now we have a whole host of other crimes like blackmail, identity fraud, taking out loans in your or others’ names, mortgaging your house, you name it. They do it because it works often enough. And when it does, it can be highly profitable.
@heidikamrath1951
@heidikamrath1951 Месяц назад
I always reply with “SCAM ALERT” and then report them.
@hockey1freak
@hockey1freak Месяц назад
wait Steven Brady you mean we don't give you $100,000 and you will double it in a month?
@patty109109
@patty109109 Месяц назад
@@hockey1freakyou mean Stephen Andrew Brady? They always have a middle name :)
@yongcassle5134
@yongcassle5134 Месяц назад
Thanks for the update Rob! Very useful info.
@LisaSonora
@LisaSonora Месяц назад
Thanks so much for this overview. My small biz 401k got it's notice from Vanguard so now I have ideas on where to transfer. Much appreciation to you!
@doncooper2344
@doncooper2344 Месяц назад
IIRC you could also just convert/roll your Vanguard Simple IRA to a Vanguard traditional IRA if you've had it for two (?) years. Having fewer consolidated accounts is often a good idea.
@peterwright837
@peterwright837 Месяц назад
Vanguard is back in the Cash Management business. They now have Cash Plus accounts that pay a decent rate of return and provide FDIC insurance.
@Arun71150
@Arun71150 Месяц назад
Thanks for saying this. I was confused when he said this as I have the Cash plus account as of 2024
@rightwingprofessor1356
@rightwingprofessor1356 Месяц назад
The primary reason I remain with Vanguard is because it is the ONLY Investment firm that is not a Stock Company (Schwab) or owned privately (Fidelity.) If your personal financial goals include buying and holding low cost, broadly diversified investments, index funds, and a management system that rewards owners instead of stock holders or personal family members...why leave Vanguard? I do not own any of the "investments" that Vanguard is selling and I bet 99% of those who read Bob's newsletter or watch his video don't either. For me, this a "nothing Burger!" By the way, Ascensus is a huge third party administrator. A number of employers I have worked for in the past used them.
@cato451
@cato451 Месяц назад
Thanks Rob. Great video.
@hermes8258
@hermes8258 Месяц назад
Hi, I am in an entirely different league and experience level than you are. Just retired. But I learn a few things (often many things) from listening to your RU-vid videos. Thank you.
@hevoforo1629
@hevoforo1629 Месяц назад
Good discussion. I have a solo 401k with VG, got the "letter", and did my investigation and concur with your findings. Fidelity charges zero fees. Like you, I had an abysmal experience with VG in the 2000s and I'm now done with VG. Thankfully, there are competitive alternatives available today.
@BillyCarsley
@BillyCarsley Месяц назад
Ascensus Trust is where I had to send a rollover check when I was moving money into my Vanguard 403b
@williamstanke9210
@williamstanke9210 Месяц назад
Hi Rob, thanks for posting this video. I am disappointed in Vanguard’s decision to effectively “fire” my SIMPLE-IRA. I will be moving my account to Charles Schwab, where I already have another IRA. 0:17
@Doso777
@Doso777 Месяц назад
Vanguard seems to slim their product range in Europe as well. Vanguard Germany recently completly closed their brokerage and robo investment offering. They offered that service for a little under 2 years.
@twilde3754
@twilde3754 Месяц назад
Yikes. Another thing to keep in mind. Good to know about Vanguard. Thanks!!
@jeffreyspecht7343
@jeffreyspecht7343 Месяц назад
Just moved all my Vanguard Ira funds to Fidelity as service and support has degraded for years.
@noreenn6976
@noreenn6976 Месяц назад
I called Vanguard due to an issue they were having sending me emails, they have outsourced some of their customer service outside the USA.
@terry_willis
@terry_willis Месяц назад
Maybe when you get to a gigantic size, niche areas just become insignificant to your overall operation and are just not worth the hassle.
@lindax911
@lindax911 Месяц назад
@4:00 20 buck _per fund_ can add up. My IRA is invested in 10 different funds. So that would be $200 in annual fees, _plus_ the 20 buck account holder fee? _That's_ a lot of fees ... just to have the account.
@rayzerot
@rayzerot Месяц назад
The account holder fee is waived if you agree to accept your account reporting digitally instead of through the mail. It's more a service charge for postage delivery than an account fee
@user-cf1tm6fx4w
@user-cf1tm6fx4w Месяц назад
​@@rayzerot wrong. We're talking about Ascensus. It doesn't say that anywhere.
@webbmyers1339
@webbmyers1339 Месяц назад
Vanguard: "Diversifying your portfolio is good for you." Ascensus: "Diversifying your portfolio is good for US."
@briangasser973
@briangasser973 Месяц назад
That is not a lot of fees for a 401k.
@user-cf1tm6fx4w
@user-cf1tm6fx4w Месяц назад
@@briangasser973 I mean... it is when the alternative is $0 fees.
@juliewilson7656
@juliewilson7656 Месяц назад
Vanguard is making more significant changes starting 6/1/24, including for closing accounts. Any chance you can do a video on these changes?
@Dividendflywheel
@Dividendflywheel Месяц назад
Mr Berger @6:54 you NAILED it. Vanguard was my first choice but their customer service was rude, snobbish and condescending. I took my money elsewhere and I am very happy
@robsimon6514
@robsimon6514 2 дня назад
HI Rob. Yes, you pronounced it correctly. They are the recordkeeper for our Company's 401k plan which is branded as Vanguard.
@barneyfyfe8313
@barneyfyfe8313 Месяц назад
I mentioned this in a previous post asking for advice. I called and found out all accounts labeled "brokerage" and with an 8 digit account # will remain with Vanguard. I had the funds my one nonconforming Simple IRA transferred to another account. Done.
@BillyCarsley
@BillyCarsley Месяц назад
If your feature is low fees, how is that putting them out of business? Won't everyone want to go with them?
@roger47th
@roger47th Месяц назад
E-trade does Roth 401k. No fees.
@FunStuffBuddy
@FunStuffBuddy Месяц назад
Just dishing out BANGERS!
@simone_maya
@simone_maya Месяц назад
Before I stopped dca-ing into my Vanguard account, it was 220k and has now depleted to 175k in the past year due to rebalancing I did out of fear uncertainty and doubt.
@simone_maya
@simone_maya Месяц назад
What are best alternatives to take in other to secure a financially free retirement and achieve ultimate peace? I don’t want to fail after 42 years of working hard.
@FranciszekPawal
@FranciszekPawal Месяц назад
If you want to rebuild your retirement by yourself, without the help of a partner, I will tell you it is near impossible. Even NewRetirement and co can’t do the job of an FA with expertise, a large following/client base and experience. Hire one and begin to develop a rapport.
@WillAustin
@WillAustin Месяц назад
Sorry to hear this. Sounds like you would benefit from going back to DCA-ing and not trying to time the market. Check out the Bogleheads method online if you haven't yet. Good luck!
@cathyg1099
@cathyg1099 Месяц назад
Rebalancing isn’t always the best strategy. Run the scenarios through portfolio visualizer.
@brennendavis3283
@brennendavis3283 Месяц назад
Vanguard actually does have cash management via their new Cash Plus accounts.
@stevegould5185
@stevegould5185 Месяц назад
One more recent change at Vanguard. Near the end of last year Vanguard eliminated their Coverdell education savings plans. We had to roll my son's plan into a regular 529 plan.
@jeffrey1312
@jeffrey1312 Месяц назад
I worked for a small company that had a 401(k) plan at Ascensus. They are fine. I have nothing bad to say about them.
@solosolosiervodecristo1488
@solosolosiervodecristo1488 Месяц назад
I hope Fidelity and the other firms dont start doing the same thing.
@billclarke3754
@billclarke3754 Месяц назад
Or have all three- Fidelity, Schwab and Vanguard :) Customer service is pretty much non existent at Vanguard; things are great until you need to speak with a human :)
@bharatborse9125
@bharatborse9125 Месяц назад
Ascensus has been managing 529 plan in colorado along with Vanguard.
@woodchuck003
@woodchuck003 Месяц назад
Last year vanguard announced that it was moving out of ESG funds, in addition to the financial hit vanguard was also having a legal trouble in relation to the ESG funds, I know an Australian court last year found them guilty of fraud. I wonder if this fallout is due to them trying to pivot too hard into selling politics as a financial service. Instead of selling a financial service.
@russwinslow
@russwinslow Месяц назад
Thank you for this summary. Very helpful.
@MichaelToub
@MichaelToub Месяц назад
Great Video!
@DarakeDivz
@DarakeDivz Месяц назад
No impact to me, but appreciate the heads up and the thoughts. Cheers 🍻
@georgbot6966
@georgbot6966 Месяц назад
Ascensus has been around awhile, one of the largest TPAs in the US
@obrienortega6942
@obrienortega6942 Месяц назад
Glad I transfer all my assets from Vanguard to Fidelity. I’m sticking with Fidelity, Charles Schwab, and Merrill.
@egobambi6763
@egobambi6763 Месяц назад
Thank you.
@thoryan3057
@thoryan3057 Месяц назад
ASCENSUS IS TERRIBLE. If I ever have an employer that uses them in the future I'm putting absolutely nothing into it. Don't even want the match. I went through so much Hell because of them.
@bobdrawbaugh4207
@bobdrawbaugh4207 Месяц назад
It seems unethical to me. If you open an account with Vanguard then sell it to a third party. I don’t know it just seems slimy to me,
@JasonBuckman
@JasonBuckman Месяц назад
Vangaurd is leaving that business. Doesn't sound slimy at all. That part of the business is going defunct, so they are selling it off.
@corner559
@corner559 Месяц назад
Everyone who's impacted by this should move their money to Fidelity.
@borninpa
@borninpa Месяц назад
but what if you have a roth individual 401k along with traditional 401k. Sounds like Fidelity does not handle that so not everyone can move to Fidelity.
@JasonBuckman
@JasonBuckman Месяц назад
My Vanguard 401(k) is at Ascensus. Or my Ascensus 401(k) is at Vanguard. Not sure which. I can log into either website using the same login credentials. Doesn't even matter which website I use. The UI is the same.
@bklynbass
@bklynbass Месяц назад
I set up a traditional and Roth solo 401k at vanguard last year and it was immediately apparent that it sucked. Severely limited investment choices, and yes separate login so I couldn’t integrate it with the rest of our vanguard accounts. I switched to E*trade almost immediately. It was the only commercial no-fee provider I found (Schwab had cancelled its Roth soloK at the time) that offered a self directed solo 401k with both traditional and Roth options. And all my other etrate accounts (Roth IRA, trad IRA, brokerage account and high yield savings) are integrated with my solo 401ks in one login.
@johnwhite2576
@johnwhite2576 Месяц назад
try t rowe price
@JoeSmith-jd5zg
@JoeSmith-jd5zg Месяц назад
Ever since Bogle died, they have been going downhill.
@Dividendflywheel
@Dividendflywheel Месяц назад
Agreed!!! Even before he passed away they started deviating from the Bogle philosophy
@richardpope71
@richardpope71 Месяц назад
I'm moving my SEP to Fidelity's and keeping the same fund. I called them and they offer Vanguard VTSAX so should be ok with no worries on taxes or fees I have to pay to do this. I may move everything over to Fidelity so I can have it all under one.
@AZHankG
@AZHankG Месяц назад
Ascensus runs the New York State 529 using Vanguard Funds, it typically is one of the highest rated 529's nationally. This is I believe a longstanding business partnership between Vanguard and Ascensus.
@SkywalkerPMs
@SkywalkerPMs Месяц назад
I have limit orders in at Vanguard now. I will keep VFIAX, but will be out of the etfs soon.
@karenscookingkorner
@karenscookingkorner Месяц назад
Figures 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ for sure its going to include me. Really appreciate the heads up on this Rob!
@smallcoffee75
@smallcoffee75 Месяц назад
This will be good news for the Holders of these plans. I can not image that Ascensus customer service can be any worse than what Vanguard has become.
@user00165
@user00165 Месяц назад
Oh yeah, how about if they will move all customers services to India?
@TheFourthWinchester
@TheFourthWinchester Месяц назад
​@@user00165they will be using AI services for that.
@clifford629
@clifford629 Месяц назад
My customer service experience with Ascensus as an employee is that they can't answer any questions, even basic, about my ESOP (Employee Stock Option Plan).
@richardm.441
@richardm.441 Месяц назад
What do you mean when you said they have given up on cash management? Don't their money market accounts pay higher yields than anything offered by their competition?
@djphilthy78
@djphilthy78 Месяц назад
Hello! First of all, thank you for your channel & videos, they are extremely helpful & informative. I was hoping you could elaborate on your "freeloader" approach...what specifically you mean when you say that you get benefits and services without paying the high fees. Have you made a video specifically on this topic, or could you provide more details as to exactly what you mean?
@hanwagu9967
@hanwagu9967 Месяц назад
The arrangement sounds a bit convoluted with Ascensus providing administrative, custodial, and recordkeeping services while not being a broker-dealer. I just can't see people who go to Vanguard in the first place suddenly wanting to pay fees. Not sure why the agremeent didn't include removing fees. $20-$25 per Vanguard mutual fund per account and per participant in custodial. Who is gonna want to pay $60-$75 for a simple 3 fund portfolio per person per account type per year? I don't see how Ascensus is a winner in this deal, given the numbers that are surely going to jump ship to Fidelity, schwab or somewhere else. Would love to see the business projections for this acquisition that made this a winner for Ascensus.
@corwind3888
@corwind3888 Месяц назад
What are your thoughts on using an online firm versus a brick and motor outfit? There aren't too many choices that are that close to me, and yet I do worry about how secure an online account might be. Thanks.
@wackzingo
@wackzingo Месяц назад
I was not familiar with Ascensus either although it sounded familiar and I just realized why....I was looking at 529 plans and noticed they are the fund managers for a bunch of state funds.
@ronalddale5439
@ronalddale5439 Месяц назад
Rob, have looked at Strive Asset Management? I like putting performance over politics when it comes to my money and would love to hear your analysis on this firm and how it compares to Vanguard, Blackrock, State Street, Fidelity, and the others.
@Jary3166
@Jary3166 Месяц назад
Great video Rob, thank you! I will love your videos, including the ones on credit card rewards! I've heard your recommendation for both brokerage firm, HY savings account, and credit card - would you make a video in the future about what institution you like for checking account and daily spending? A lot of them tend to charge fees - I wonder if you negotiate them down or have found places that have no fees and good customer service. Thank you!
@clsanchez77
@clsanchez77 Месяц назад
My guess is they are streamlining business operations to reduce costs. I have to imagine it costs a little more to run smaller plans.
@Deadman-fq8yz
@Deadman-fq8yz Месяц назад
Hi Rob, I'm new here and have been watching some of your video's , new and old, one that struck a nerve was about Fees for a Financial Advisor. I recently hired a group that will handle my money during my retirement. My question here today is about there fee. Do you think 0.8% is reasonable? They will be Advising, Planning and Distributing funds as I don't feel I am equipped to handle it on my own. Thanks for your time.
@user-xl3qh4kt1v
@user-xl3qh4kt1v Месяц назад
Per my phone call with Vanguard, you can transfer to an IRA at Vanguard and can initiate that process over the phone. These small business plans have administrative burdens to comply with, so they are expensive for investment companies to offer. If you no longer need to make contributions to your SIMPLE IRA or solo-401(k), etc., you no longer need an account with those administrative burdens, you just need an account to hold the money. Transferring to an IRA at Vanguard might be the easiest option to avoid the transfer to Acensus and associated fees.
@five-dollar-library
@five-dollar-library Месяц назад
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@alex182618
@alex182618 Месяц назад
Ascensus is located 30 min drive from Vanguard headquarters. Both are close to Philadelphia.
@ghostl1124
@ghostl1124 Месяц назад
I think Vanguard is closer to Pittsburg than Philadelphia.
@andrewroth9175
@andrewroth9175 Месяц назад
They did this to my ESA Coverdell savings (education) account last year. They eliminated these accounts which a had to move to Schwab.
@gecko2000405
@gecko2000405 Месяц назад
I like Vanguard, but fail to understand how an customer owned company that doesn't have a stock or have to pay a dividend, has such a pathetic user interface and cannot destroy a BlackRock or State Street, then does shady things such as 'sell' IRA's.
@arofhoof
@arofhoof Месяц назад
The dividend is paid into the business to reduce fees. Or at least that's how I understand it.
@EcomCarl
@EcomCarl Месяц назад
It's crucial for small business owners to stay informed about changes to their retirement plans. Considering alternatives like Fidelity and Schwab, which offer competitive options without fees, could be a smart move. 💼
@Jack-nu6oi
@Jack-nu6oi Месяц назад
I just received the email from Vanguard about their new commission fees. When I take my RMD this year and want to reinvest it in my taxable account; are they going to charge me a fee?
@jimraftery4592
@jimraftery4592 Месяц назад
Do you have a video on the following topic? My wife's employer changed a few years ago and we moved the funds in her previous 401(k) to consolidate under her new employer's plan. The old plan charge a considerable "fee" to allow the money to be moved. This didn't seem right. This video made me wonder if such as thing would happen in this Vanguard case. Thanks.
@HSet77
@HSet77 Месяц назад
Vanguard stopped servicing some IRA annuity accounts back in 2020 - Those accounts invested in Vanguard funds but held by Transamerica - It was a messy move - if I remember.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 Месяц назад
Troubling if Vanguard has done business with Transamerica. My late mother had a small life insurance policy that originally was with Sun Life as I remember - the policy apparently got sold a couple times,ended up as Transamerica. I am listed as beneficiary. Transamerica has refused to pay. I think their business model is to try not to pay. Piratical in my opinion. Another similar small policy was with Prudential which promptly and courteously paid with a minimum of documentation asked for. Transamerica asked for much more docu and personal information and did not pay. I believe that I e- mailed them her death certificate.
@HSet77
@HSet77 Месяц назад
@@davidpowell3347 Perhaps, you can get Fidelity - or similar company - involved to make a transfer to them if they offer similar policies. They have clout to get it done.
@HSet77
@HSet77 Месяц назад
@@davidpowell3347 Does a company such as Fidelity offer similar contracts? Ask Fidelity to transfer those policies from Transamerica to Fidelity. They have the clout to get it done without all the stalling tactics. Perhaps worth a try.
@karens6053
@karens6053 Месяц назад
how would this effect a VOO, vanguard S&P 500 investment, is it a bad idea to keep a VOO or other vanguard ETF?
@PeaceBeginsOnYourPlate
@PeaceBeginsOnYourPlate Месяц назад
If everyone did low cost index fund investing at Fidelity and didn't fall into the trap of actively managed mutual funds, I wonder if Fidelity would run into similar troubles.
@consciouscrypto3090
@consciouscrypto3090 Месяц назад
The thing about Fidelity's accounts that have those expenses, they're all managed accounts. That means someone is picking your investments, doing your rebalancing, adjusting for business cycles, all for you. You literally set it and forget it. In contrast, at Vanguard you're doing all your own strategy and execution. At Fidelity that's free too, but for most people who work full time, and NOT in finance, it pays to not be doing it all yourself around your actual job. But yeah, if you want to do it all yourself, it probably doesn't much matter whether you choose Vanguard, Schwab, Fidelity, etc. They all have some types of no fee offerings.
@JosephDickson
@JosephDickson Месяц назад
$20 isn't bad compared to a brokerage that charges fees on the fund value that exceed it annually.
@mylesdavidson
@mylesdavidson Месяц назад
Glad my solo 401k is with Fidelity. Hope it stays there!
@KMarik
@KMarik 12 дней назад
I don’t think it’s just small employers, I work for a company with over 30K employees, and our plans will move to Fidelity in July.
@WinstonSmithGPT
@WinstonSmithGPT Месяц назад
Pulled all the money out of my vanguard because I couldn’t get anyone on the phone for a 7 figure account. They never tried to retain assets or ask me why.
@Bilobatron
@Bilobatron Месяц назад
It's happening before the 3rd quarter. VG confirmed account transfers to Ascencus are scheduled for July 17-19th.
@joannec8501
@joannec8501 Месяц назад
Hi Rob I have a question I’ve been trying to solve. That is regarding solo 401(k). There are several bloggers and RU-vidrs stating that a person can have a solo 401(k) if they have part-time employees that work less than 500 hours per year there’s more to the rule than that. But that’s the basics. I think they are crossing that information from traditional 401(k) and implying that that could be a rule for a solo 401(k). The IRS website says you cannot have any common law employees meaning anyone on a W-2. Except for a partner or a spouse. I’m going to reach out to my CPA.but this question does a fact, my spouses solo 401(k). Any thoughts?
@gryblk21
@gryblk21 Месяц назад
I am currently converting my 401K to a Roth at Fidelity. I am sure I understand what you said about Fidelity not having a Roth account. Could you clarify please?
@roger47th
@roger47th Месяц назад
401k Roth is different than a Roth IRA.
@howardfam49
@howardfam49 Месяц назад
I tried to move an IRA into Vanguard. Talked to 3 different people and got 3 different answers on how to do it. Very Hard to get in touch with a customer rep at vanguard. Got frustrated and moved it to Fidelity wo any fuss there.
@g.t.richardson6311
@g.t.richardson6311 10 дней назад
Yes Fidelity actually answers phone, and returns calls. bent over backwards helping transferring in a small HSA (only high 4 figures) I do have a mid 6:figure IRA, and my wife has a low 6 figures one. When she retires we will surely transfer her HSA there as well
@sportsnetusa1
@sportsnetusa1 Месяц назад
Vanguard also transferred management of 403(b) accounts to Ascensus.
@mdomnis
@mdomnis Месяц назад
My guess is they just don't see the financial benefit of keeping these small plans so they're selling them off and focusing on larger customers. There will likely be some layoffs at Vanguard too for people that were focused on these plans. Seems like what a lot of corporations do when things are about to get rocky. They cut the stuff around the edges that isn't a big chunk of their business and the staff that goes with it and focus on their bread and butter.
@smallcoffee75
@smallcoffee75 Месяц назад
I wonder if any of the workers in their overseas call centers who read from a script cannot comprehend English will be laid off.
@mdomnis
@mdomnis Месяц назад
@@smallcoffee75 I doubt it. :(
@Anthony-zw1qb
@Anthony-zw1qb Месяц назад
I have funds with Fidelity and a Roth IRA with vanguard. Happy with both companies. Of course vanguards website can be annoying but they have nice index funds.
@GoKU-xx2vg
@GoKU-xx2vg Месяц назад
You can get Vanguard index funds from almost any broker.
@Anthony-zw1qb
@Anthony-zw1qb Месяц назад
@@GoKU-xx2vg yea with a fee unless it’s an ETF
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 Месяц назад
@@GoKU-xx2vg with additional fees
@stevenglowacki8576
@stevenglowacki8576 Месяц назад
Schwab does not offer SIMPLE IRAs where the entire employer plan isn't being held with them. I only started with Vanguard for mine precisely because Schwab didn't offer them. I'm looking at moving to E-Trade. I already have accounts at Fidelity, but I don't know for sure if they actually offer them, while I do know E-Trade does.
@usaindian1704
@usaindian1704 Месяц назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *📰 Vanguard is selling 280,000 small business retirement plans, including solo 401ks, to a company called Ascensus.* 02:22 *💼 Consider moving your plan if Vanguard's service quality or fees are concerns. Fidelity and Schwab offer viable alternatives without fees.* 05:46 *🛒 Vanguard's exit from small business retirement plans suggests they're no longer competing with full-service platforms like Fidelity or Schwab.* Made with HARPA AI
@divekatdreaming
@divekatdreaming Месяц назад
Selling???? The Vanguard Group is mostly a service company for the accounts that hold Vanguard funds and Brokerage accounts.... So... Is Vanguard selling the servicing to the other company and getting a profit, or are they just transferring the accounts to them for them to service? The letter said Ascensus is acquiring the accounts, not that they bought them. So, maybe Vanguard decided that those accounts have higher service costs and so are transferring them....and those higher costs is why Ascensus is charging fees... Also, the Vanguard funds themselves have lower fees, so would the cost to invest at, say, Fidelity be more than Vanguard, because the service costs to the funds are higher to begin with? Fidelity has stockholders that they have to pay, but Vanguard does not. It doesn't really make sense, though as service is what Vanguard does.
@quantumcat7191
@quantumcat7191 Месяц назад
Good to know. I'll roll my 401k next week.
@seanwool
@seanwool Месяц назад
Do you get the feeling that Vanguard is trying exit the brokerage business entirely and focus on selling their mutual funds and ETFs on other platforms?
@noreenn6976
@noreenn6976 Месяц назад
good question
@SammifromMiami
@SammifromMiami Месяц назад
I guess it’s back to Schwab. We had our Roth i401(k) at TD Ameritrade. Schwab buys them and we have to move to Vanguard. Now for 2024 Schwab is doing them. Back and forth, back and forth.
@danmarkiewicz3697
@danmarkiewicz3697 Месяц назад
@Rob Berger Thanks Rob, good catch and explanation!
@hownwen
@hownwen Месяц назад
We have a single person SEP with vanguard. I think you said we're not effected
@hownwen
@hownwen Месяц назад
I can see my personal and retirement accounts in one log in
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