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Vapour barriers for roofs and walls explained 

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Vapour barriers for cold roofs is one of the top questions I'm asked by email and on the phone.
What is the correct vapour barrier for a cold flat roof? The answer is the one that's on the specifications for the project you are building. If you are building a domestic building in the UK you need Building Control and possibly planning permission. To get through Building Control you should have some sort of drawings and some specifications (these specifications should have all the details you need to construct the building, however normally they have been cut back to keep costs down). The drawings will help to get you through Building Control but what you really need are construction drawings with specifications containing details on them. A lot of the time the details are missing. This omission makes up a large part of the problem we have in construction today; without the details and specifications you don't know what air Vapour Control Layer (AVCL) or vapour barrier to use. Depending on the buildup of the roof or the wall, the designers should have done dew point calculations, and worked out the resistance needed to stop condensation forming on the inside of the building. This is called interstitial condensation when it forms in a wall or roof structure. There are many vapour barriers on the market, some have very high resistances to moisture and some low, all are vapour control layers and nearly all of them also control the movement of air. This is what we call the Air Vapour Control Layers.
If you use a vapour barrier that's very strong, i.e. it stops a lot of vapour passing through a wall or a ceiling into a roof, then you need to deal with the moisture left in the room with ventilation of some kind. If however, the vapour barrier you use is too weak and moisture gets through into the buildup of the wall or roof, then it may get stuck there and cause problems like rot in the internal timbers or the back of the roof. With a cold roof it's essential to make sure that above the insulation and below the roof there is a good vented void to remove any moisture that makes it up into the construction. The vented void can then allow the wind to blow the moisture out, basically it's a second line of defence.
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@pppscooby
@pppscooby Год назад
Can you do a video on vapour control on a single brick building with studs inside instead of block. Do these need a vapour barrier or a breathable membrane outside. Garden office, not part of main house.
@opentrail
@opentrail 2 года назад
So glad you are making these videos with really useful content. I love watching them - its an education especially as most of us have old stock property that needs some insulation, but even for new and self builds. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Glad you like them!
@bigtonyh9428
@bigtonyh9428 Год назад
Another great vid ! Steve you absolutely saved my skin on my house project flat roof a good few moths back I was so grateful for your time and effort in helping me with clear video points and all you wanted in return was a thumbs up 👍 .. what a gentleman and a complete professional . Than you .
@HampsteadBuildersLt
@HampsteadBuildersLt Год назад
Thanks glad to help
@utensil999
@utensil999 2 года назад
Great video Steve. I really apreciate your videos, im not a builder but i think this info is really usefull for the average person as everyone should have an understaning of these things so they can question trades who are working on their poperty. Looking forward to your video on correct fitting of downlighters in vapour barriers. Thanks
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Great to hear!
@noskills9577
@noskills9577 2 года назад
As a spark I’m interested to see what you think about downlight installations and what you think is a way forward to improve vapour control.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
I recorded that vide last week and it will be out this coming sunday
@user-ix4ge6rr7u
@user-ix4ge6rr7u 2 года назад
No Skills - Hi mate, I think the majority of fire rated down lights are also Part C compliant (Resistance to contaminants and moisture).
@TrickyTree84
@TrickyTree84 2 года назад
Don't
@noskills9577
@noskills9577 2 года назад
@@user-ix4ge6rr7u thanks - I’ll have to do some research.
@lukeservice6615
@lukeservice6615 2 года назад
Really helpful again mate. I’m almost ready to fit vapour barrier to cold roof, it’s the downlight scenario I’m trying to get my head round. Looking forward to see your video on that, I had in my head where I cut the insulation away I will vapour barrier that area, like putting vapour barrier inside an empty box if that makes sense, but I guess there has to be a hole for the cable? 🤯
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Tomorrow afternoon
@jackpartridge7891
@jackpartridge7891 2 года назад
Hi Steve I have a question if you could please answer :) … I’m looking to knock a non-structural wall down to make my downstairs bathroom a little bigger so its connected with the toilet which is at the back of house however the toilet room is a single external brick wall so it’s very cold which im hoping to insulate and make warm.. Taking advice from this video this means I could make a stud frame 4x2 and fit against the wall and then fit 100mm PIR boards up tight against the studs and that should do the trick no vapour barrier needed? For extra reassurance I could buy expanding foam and put around the PIR to stop any worries about the condensation to meet regulations? Any advice on insulating a single brick wall is welcome, hope u can help me 🙏🏼
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Yes you do need a vapour barrier the rest you have got ok
@jackpartridge7891
@jackpartridge7891 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer hi Steve what vapour barrier would I need and how do I attach the vapour barrier to the brick? Do I leave an air gap or no? Hope you can help as not many people know how to on my situation which is making me feel very confused. Thank you 🙏🏼
@dannymurphy1779
@dannymurphy1779 2 года назад
Love the outside rig Steve. Would be interesting to build a mini 'wrong' roof one day and see the effects of it, incorrectly fitted downlighters and all! I guess the most challenging one is the rear extension with roof lantern and kitchen below, no abutment vent, the usual 20 spotlights. Just trying to give you a few ideas!
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
If I get the chance I will do some thing wrong in this rig
@mikeweldon9971
@mikeweldon9971 2 года назад
Been there done it seen it fail , spotlights letting moisture through & also the heat they create causing condensation. I have seen top hat fire rated led covers to help this problem. The building control like great big cut outs around the light fitting is the problem.
@effervescence5664
@effervescence5664 2 года назад
Have to admit vapour barriers being on the inside of the structure never made sense to me when working in the states or back in the UK. Vapour control layers on the outside of the structure make far more sense and just having an air tight structure where the passage of air is controlled on the users terms. The difference with being back in the UK is the general construction isn't a reduced height warm room with a cold roof over it.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
I think warm roof with cold roof over hte top is the way to go but hight being the problem
@effervescence5664
@effervescence5664 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer While I was working there they do a reduced height construction warm room + ventilated cold roof. LVL's and engineered joists are generally the go-to for it but it near enough takes up the same space plus 1-2 inches. NA is massively ahead in wooden framing building techniques though compared to the UK and the general level of air tightness is much higher on the new builds back in NA than new builds here in the UK.
@videogalore
@videogalore 2 года назад
Great video! Can I say as someone on the design side, that when specific products are named it's often pushed back by a builder as they either have no history with the named product or simply that their favoured merchant doesn't stock it. It's not easy on this side either and usually results in a phone call with an answer needed in about 10 minutes as to "whether 'X' membrane would be alright?".
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Great point and since COVID that ten minutes is 40minutes
@Tom_Hadler
@Tom_Hadler 2 года назад
I think one of the reasons people don't specify an err....specific product for a vapour barrier is that they don't know which one to use. Another is it's good practice to put vapour barrier on a detail, and then the specification document or side drawing notes would call up the exact thing or requirements of the thing (such as "comply with BS such and such). It is a jungle, I hate the amount of different and varying products and how confusing it all is. Even if you used NBS spec (costs a fortune) there will be many decisions to be made, and it seems to need specialised knowledge now that even architects will struggle with. What happens is firms will end up having a standard wpec they always use, which is great, until they do something different but the spec doesn't change to suit. Minefield is construction now, it can't have always been so complicated and over engineered?
@timlawton3391
@timlawton3391 Год назад
Hi Steve. Thanks for this, really helpful. Quick question though... As you say, the butyl tape is expensive. Is there any reason why you couldn't seal joints with polybutene sealant or something similar? Seems like it would be significantly cheaper to do so.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
If you're gonna do it, you have to do it using the system so that you can get the guarantees but realistically don't do it and do a warm roof. If you do a warm roof it's far better and you don't have all these problems
@JohnOfChernarus
@JohnOfChernarus 8 дней назад
Can someone please explain where this vapour barrier goes? Over the rigid insulation and behind the plasterboard with no gap….?
@justaky
@justaky 2 года назад
Hi Steve, I'm so glad I've come across your video. I'm sure you've spoken about this many times. I'm currently doing a DIY renovation to my property we have an old extension, cold flat roof. The roof joists are roughly 5 inches high. So what I've done is kept 5cm gap from the flat roof and drilled holes in the joists for air flow, immediately after the 5cm gap, I've then insulated with 5cm celotex and taped with alluminium tape for air tightness, which leaves me a remaining gap about 2-3cm from the bottom of the joists, this allows me to fit downlights without obstructing the insulation to allowing heat of the lights not having much effect. Can you please advise further, I'd be happy to email :). Many thanks.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Sunday Ill have a video coming out that covers down lighters
@asdaasda4967
@asdaasda4967 Год назад
Hi steve im doing a warm roof and wanted to ask ive got the aultrix 600 vapour barrier going down on osb board do i need to use primer to stick the vapour barrier down also the top deck of osb boards can i use long screw to go through directly to the joist or do i need to use the plastic fixing seen in your other videos? Thanks
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
If you are screwing down the insulation, no you don't have to use a primer. I would always use thermally broken fixings when mechanically fixing down the insulation.
@asdaasda4967
@asdaasda4967 Год назад
@@SteveRoofer thanks for your reply, i was also wonder if i can use a torch on felt underlay which come in 1m x 16mm as a vapour barrier instead of aultrix 60, also have you heard or used elotene dsn self adhesive vapour barrier is it as good as aultrix 600? Thanks
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
@@asdaasda4967 Their vapour resistance is the same very good and the price is basically the same I have used lots of different one not the elotene DSN self-adhesive vapour barrier I know some of them are more stickier than others, and we found that the aultrix 600 is the most sticky at the back and that's why we like it
@pdgnews
@pdgnews 2 года назад
If you just put metal tape over the seams of the foil backed insulation board (covering the studs/rafters too), wouldn't that have the same effect as using a vapour barrier?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
yes possibly but can you guarantee that you get everything every hold and divit !
@eddddd123
@eddddd123 2 года назад
I'm doing my bathroom with ridgid insulation and just foil taped every gap joist I could ....I rang someone from celotex and they said the foil does act a a vapour barrier....I really did find it confusing looking on the internet for the best way forward
@pdgnews
@pdgnews 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer I asked because that's exactly what I did with a vaulted bedroom last year. I was meticulous with the tape - probably went a bit overboard. So when I saw your video, it had me thinking. Love the videos - I've learned so much from them, especially as a DIYer.
@pdgnews
@pdgnews 2 года назад
@@eddddd123 Ahh, good to know, as that's exactly what I did last year.
@eddddd123
@eddddd123 2 года назад
@@pdgnews Yes Paul it should be fine.....I did put thin plastic membrane around shower area just to be safe and alot of ridgid insulation was doubled up so I'm hoping it will be fine.....what gets me is you spend all this money on insulation and then put a big hole through the wall for a fan lol....feels like your totally defeating the object 🙂
@chrismcdade6565
@chrismcdade6565 2 месяца назад
Hi Steve, Thanks for this. Great advice. I’m looking to convert a garage into a workshop and wondered if an air gap should be between the single skin brick work and insulation? Also, should there be any sort of barrier between the back side of the Insulation and brick wall? Thanks!
@petercawthorne5997
@petercawthorne5997 Год назад
Hi Steve, finding your videos very helpful.... I have a warm roof on a single skin brick wall in a conservatory. Just about to insulate the walls. Could you point me towards your video on warm roofs ? Many thanks
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WZ6Ng6YI9OA.html&ab_channel=SteveRoofer
@allyburg7145
@allyburg7145 8 месяцев назад
Warm roofs are technically better as you don’t have a cold void to allow condensation to form
@king_slayer6631
@king_slayer6631 Месяц назад
Hi Do you need to buy a breathable vapour barrier or non breathable type when doing walls and roof...thanks john....lreland
@dbiwatches1891
@dbiwatches1891 2 года назад
Hi Steve I've been having a long think about how to insulate around my led downlights and have decided to use 60mm all over in a 6 inch timbererd flat roof. My idea is to cut the insulation short to allow for clearance for the downlight then sticking a 25mm insulation piece on top of the 60mm creating a kind of top hat sealed void. Then I can vapour barrier the whole area and stick the barrier to the flush to timber 60mm insulation around the downlight void area,any thoughts mate much appreciated 👍
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
This sundays video is how to fit downlighters
@adiborza4131
@adiborza4131 2 года назад
You put the vapor barrier at the inside of the roof, and the outside of the walls?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
It always gos on the worm side of any insulation
@adiborza4131
@adiborza4131 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer thank you.
@courtneyjones3310
@courtneyjones3310 26 дней назад
Do I actually need to insulate between the rafter or could I just board over with a bigger insulation board and gain the same effect. It is a loft and not a habitable space
@andysims4906
@andysims4906 Год назад
I can’t help thinking we are causing more problems than we realise. In modern properties there is no air movement, extractor fans don’t do much as the building is so air tight they don’t pull in fresh air. Both my son and daughter live in new builds and when they stay with us for a few days they always say they feel so much healthier . New builds feel more stuffy.I live in a 1960s house . Even my builder says don’t ever get the cavities filled . He said it took thousands of years to invent the cavity wall and 50 or 60 years to decide to fill it. I do have plenty of insulation in the loft but that’s as far as it goes. It might cost me more in heating and not very green due to less insulation but at the end of the day my health is more important than all this seal everything up attitude..
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
Yes all this air tightness is going to be a big problem
@nicks4934
@nicks4934 Год назад
Trickle vents and open windows
@wagabira
@wagabira Год назад
Open the windows when needed
@theowhite
@theowhite Год назад
heat recovery ventilation remedies this, but can be expensive
@ICE-Man-187
@ICE-Man-187 Год назад
After being in the building trade for over two decades, I wholeheartedly agree!
@neilhogan1742
@neilhogan1742 2 года назад
Hi Steve, what about vapour control plasterboard/ foil backed plasterboard? Does this count as s vapour barrier on a retro re fit?
@rodgerq
@rodgerq 2 года назад
How would you seal the joints? One of these double sided butyle tapes on the studs then the boards screwed up in to it?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Yes foil back PB can't be mad air tight
@klaeLIFE
@klaeLIFE 2 года назад
Thanks for this. So if I build a garden room and install a vapour barrier CORRECTLY, where does all the moisture go now that the building is air tight?
@garyherberson8119
@garyherberson8119 2 года назад
If it’s a heated room, the moisture stays suspended in the air. If its un-heated, there’s no temperature difference (inside to outside ie cold spots) on any surface for the water to settle out.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Good question! you need to vent internally and manage the internal air space, how you do this depends on the usage of the dwelling a Mechanical Ventilation Heat Recovery (MVHR) system may be necessary. You cant have things both ways. Live in a highly insulated airtight space and not expect there to be consequences. Unfortunately because of the price of energy and hour reasonability to the planet this is the way we have to go
@_Mark_H
@_Mark_H 2 года назад
Air tightness and moisture vapour tightness are two totally different things. A vapour barrier still allows moisture vapour to pass through it but at a controlled level. This is why you don’t use a DPM as a vapour barrier which blocks any moisture movement.
@jamesdiver2183
@jamesdiver2183 2 месяца назад
Whats the worst that can happen if you dont seal joints on vapour barrier?
@gongatots4115
@gongatots4115 2 года назад
what's always puzzled me is how a vapour barrier works when we put hundreds of screw holes in them when fixing our plasterboards. And worse of all is the 3 or 4 missed screws that happen that won't even have a screw in it to fill the hole.
@_Mark_H
@_Mark_H 2 года назад
Butyl tape should be used.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Yes I'll Be showing that in another video
@bobjit252
@bobjit252 2 года назад
Vapour barrier moisture barrier seems to be abit of a buzz word these days , why would you want to keep moisture in ???
@garyherberson8119
@garyherberson8119 2 года назад
keeps the moisture away from rotting the timber
@TrickyTree84
@TrickyTree84 2 года назад
So the moist air doesn't condense on the structure and rot it!
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
We insulate a lot now days thus stoping the transferor of engage and taking with it the moist air so things have changed
@154electrician
@154electrician 2 года назад
Does using foil tape on top of the kingspan do the job?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Possibly If you can make it air tight and if its going to last the lifespan of the building !
@whalebonefields
@whalebonefields Год назад
@@SteveRoofer Why on earth don't PIR manufacturers would publish spec of the foil facings? I'm having to buy and install a seperate vapour barrier because they don't. If they stated their sd value/MNs/g, emissivity etc, then maybe all I would need is lots of alu tape.
@fredericguyon1449
@fredericguyon1449 2 года назад
This is an interesting video but a lot of talking for not really providing an answer at what to use among all the product.
@adarshjoshi9019
@adarshjoshi9019 Год назад
Hi, What should be the thickness of insulation board for my garage cold roof?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
Depends on if you need to meet building regulations if you need to build to building regulations thickness is 150 mm now
@darrendean8801
@darrendean8801 Год назад
I have a brick single skin garage and planning to insulate: 1.BRICK 2.Breathable Membrane 3.Baton walls over Breathable membrane 4.PIR 5.Vapour Barrier 6.Plasterboard or Timber sheeting to finish - No air gap Is this correct?
@RedlineRossi
@RedlineRossi Год назад
Hi Darren, I'm doing exactly the same thing and it sounds correct to me. Although I am going to hold out until the summer until I do this. It's the cold fibre glass roof that I'm going to struggle with. Let me know how it goes 👍
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
So it looks to me as if you are doing this from the inside. If I was doing this from the inside I would be using one of the new multi foil products as they're amazing. I did exactly what you're talking about on my garage multi foil on the inside that also acted as the vapour barrierOver batons on the brick wall job done fantastic acoustically internally and thermally internally
@tommyb5244
@tommyb5244 Год назад
With old houses built in 1900. No cavity. 9 inch solid wall. Would you say batten and then put insulated plaster board over it? Or is it silly
@HampsteadBuildersLt
@HampsteadBuildersLt Год назад
are you talking about walls or ceilings?
@tommyb5244
@tommyb5244 Год назад
@@HampsteadBuildersLt brick walls
@HampsteadBuildersLt
@HampsteadBuildersLt Год назад
@@tommyb5244 no not silly its the way its done ad a DPC (damp proof course) under the batten.
@tommyb5244
@tommyb5244 Год назад
@@HampsteadBuildersLt so battens drilled to the wall with a dpc under. And and good insulation board with a vapour barrier behind it?
@HampsteadBuildersLt
@HampsteadBuildersLt Год назад
@@tommyb5244 yes plasterboard avcl insulation battens dpc
@adamb9931
@adamb9931 6 месяцев назад
imagine how angry this guy gets when you don't wrap the chicken leftovers in enough cling wrap.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 6 месяцев назад
That's good
@zaz2405
@zaz2405 5 месяцев назад
Great videos, thank you! I'm DIY renovating a terraced back to back house with only one solid brick external wall. I'd like to insulate this wall internally as I've had all the plaster removed back to brick. The plan is to fix studs to the wall at 600 centres and place 60mm Rockwool for sound and thermal insulation and then regular plasterboard on top. Is it a requirement to add a vapour barrier to this one wall?? Thanks in advance.
@SaaiMus
@SaaiMus 12 дней назад
Hi Steve, great videos! I have a question which I'd love your advice on. Engineering drawings for our flat roof loft conversion states that we have a 50mm void, 150mm kingspan between the joists, then 25mm kingspan below joists, then plasterboard and skim. Where would the vapour barrier go?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 8 дней назад
You put the air vapour controller on the warm side of the insulation always however with the situation that you're in here you don't necessarily have to put it right at the bottom i.e. between the plasterboard and the lower 25 mm Kingspan you can put it under the joists so that slightly higher up in the construction. So the buildup would be something like this 12 1/2 mm plasterboard 25 mm Kingsbay air vapour control layer 150 mm of insulation between joists. Of course the problem you have just like everybody is that you have to fit the air vapour controller, extremely well using all the manufacturers systems products, this is expensive and very time-consuming and I don't think I've ever seen anybody do it!
@SaaiMus
@SaaiMus 8 дней назад
@@SteveRoofer Thanks for your reply Steve, appreciate the advice and support. I think putting it between the 150mm and 25mm insulation will be easier as it can be stuck onto the joists and stretched across
@joefanningartist
@joefanningartist 4 месяца назад
Great video, in construction years and membranes can be so confusing. What I've taken from this, is do the proper research if you want to a good job. For vapour barrier membrane AIR TIGHTNESS is key, that's why they give you the tapes with it.
@renstillmann
@renstillmann 7 месяцев назад
Hi Steve, what about insulating a Van? Metal? Air gab yes/no? Vaper barrier yes/no? What is wise here? I mean it's not the same as a house right? What do you think would be wise when it comes to insulating a van like Ford transit or Fiat ducato Mercedes sprinter etc. On bare metal. Lots of moisture probably. Should it be able to breath? Or not? So many possibilities and questions.
@alanhodgson8443
@alanhodgson8443 2 года назад
Very useful.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Glad you think so!
@whalebonefields
@whalebonefields Год назад
if you have to multiply a MNs/g value by 0.02 to get a SD value, then why is Alutrix 600, according to the manufacturer, >1500 SD value and yet is 4,310 MNs/g?
@antonyelliot8636
@antonyelliot8636 2 года назад
Great vid Steve, been waiting for this one since we spoke via email
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Cool, thanks
@voyt5729
@voyt5729 8 месяцев назад
Cam I use thick Heavy Duty Black Polythene Sheet as a vapour barier and bitumen flashband as a tape? Just to save money...
@MrTurboSAAB1
@MrTurboSAAB1 Год назад
hello Steve,I would like to ask how to install kingspan PIR in our attic.Its end terrace 1958-59,cavity wall with concrete tiles and bitumen felt,average humidity in the loft is over 80%RH in Winter and all stored stuff gets moulded,even rafters. We are in the process to reroof,so replace few bad twisted rafters,install tyvek membrane and new tiles.If I want to keep attic for stuff storage,but still having it fairly insulated from ambient temperature,can I use PIR panels between rafters leaving 40-50mm vent channel behind. There is going to be over fascia vent and dry vent ridge installed. Is this good solution? thanks
@mrcagas1158
@mrcagas1158 Год назад
How would you do a vapour barrier on a brick wall where the kingspan is foam stuck on the brickwork and the plasterboard foam suck onto the kingspan
@youreaknob
@youreaknob 8 месяцев назад
So if the barrier is on the inside what stops the insulation from getting mouldy? Also how do you attach a plaster sheet to a plastic vapour barrier?
@davidchi1277
@davidchi1277 7 месяцев назад
As clear as mud.
@1000Mikey
@1000Mikey 8 месяцев назад
great video explaining how to do it the right way. If I build a warm roof over a single block shed that has a vapour barrier in the roof, do I just use a vapour barrier on the walls up to the joins or does the whole internal space need to be completely sealed?
@northeastcorals
@northeastcorals 2 года назад
I'm looking at VCLs online now after watching this & I'm realising your lucky if the retailer even lists the gauge or mu of the membrane, let alone info like SD values etc 🙄
@mattyhunt72
@mattyhunt72 Год назад
Is a vapour barrier still needed if using Gapotape on the PIR? Thanks.
@SomersetWilliam
@SomersetWilliam 11 месяцев назад
I happened to have a ton of dyneema fabric ( cuben fiber). Do you recon, I can use it as a vapor barrier?
@CroElectroStile
@CroElectroStile Год назад
Isn't it good to allow the vapor to escape the building, how is it good that it cannot escape?
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 2 года назад
Great vid! Sealing of light fittings would be esp using fore hoods as I'm just about to redo my cold loft.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Thats my next video
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer Tha's good news, I've followed eco-home-essentials website "How to Install Insulation in Your Attic Correctly" if you have any comments on that they would be good to hear. I'm going to be using Tyvek Airguard Smart for vapour control -- and thanks to you realise I need more butyl tape!
@theadoresnibblegoober6258
@theadoresnibblegoober6258 2 года назад
Can you make a warm roof system with a slope roof. If what’s the max slope ?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
I think that a pitched roof stopes being a pitched roof when you get down to 12 degrees Ill have to look it up. However theoretically if yo made a roof with say 30 degrees pitch the same as a flat roof what's the difference? The only thing I can say is that hot air rises and at the top of the flat roof you may get a collection of moisture if you are going to get any problems at all.
@theadoresnibblegoober6258
@theadoresnibblegoober6258 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer great on sight thanks
@barryward1365
@barryward1365 2 месяца назад
Brilliantly presented information Steve, you are a life saver. 👍
@jamesdiver2183
@jamesdiver2183 2 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@chrisandrews8632
@chrisandrews8632 9 месяцев назад
BS5250??
@danfdz7862
@danfdz7862 Год назад
Hi Steve, thanks for this video,, can you help? we need to insulate a large wooden shed, please advise the best way to go abot it... ONLY THE INSIDE. ITS GOT A PITCHED ROOF AND WALLS ARE 2.5 METERS HIGH ,,,Thanks.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
if you do not want to spend a lot of money just use Rockwool with a plastic AVCL on the inside I would not be to fused about the quoity of the AVCL for a shed
@neildallasgreatwich4518
@neildallasgreatwich4518 2 года назад
😂👍🏻😂
@abskan4015
@abskan4015 2 года назад
If only they produced PIR insulation at lower depths with higher u values. Or mineral slabs and adding a foil barrier to the outside prior to boarding roof, dormer to reflect the UV. I don't get the vapour barrier internally approach. The system is too rigid and needs adapting at times. Too many houses thrown up with a load of PIR and not enough thought about how the house needs breath.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Agreed
@mjcsl001
@mjcsl001 2 года назад
Great video, thank you 👍
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@thetravelboss7820
@thetravelboss7820 Год назад
Wicked Steve. Thanks a lot mate. You’re a Legend.
@Daymanoahha
@Daymanoahha 2 года назад
maybe not your field.. :) but do you need a vapor barrier if you're insulating floorboards?. My floorboards are suspended on joists and then there's just a big gap before the dirt underneath. Lots of cold air comes up through the floorboards and i was hoping just sticking insulation in between the joists would help (leaving space underneath for air ventilation). Sorry not roof related ;)
@Daymanoahha
@Daymanoahha 2 года назад
p.s. great videos, I'm watching a bunch just out of interest at this point!
@TinaG-lc5ch
@TinaG-lc5ch Год назад
Great Video, i have watched a good few about vapour barriers trust me. I currently have a single skin (concrete block) summer house. Would you say i have it right when insulating the walls to have 1. Breathable membrane, 2. Kingspan insulation in a stud frame and then the vapour barrier before cladding or would it be vapour barrier at step one on the side of the block and insualtion or the warm side of the room or both? Hope that makes sense. Thanks in advance
@tinagriffith4600
@tinagriffith4600 Год назад
Any advance steve would be much appreciated Thanks
@richardjones3112
@richardjones3112 Год назад
I’d rather live in a draughty house than a mouldy house.How many builders can you trust to do this work properly?Great videos btw.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
Thanks
@callummcveigh3137
@callummcveigh3137 9 месяцев назад
Could you share a link or recommendation of a product for the VCL you used on the ceiling please?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 9 месяцев назад
Novia 1200 Vapour Control Layer 100m2 Roll
@pinarellolimoncello
@pinarellolimoncello 9 месяцев назад
Extremely helpful Steve, thank you.
@ecosse543
@ecosse543 Год назад
Just dont put downlights in your ceiling on a cold roof. There are very good led light strip systems out there now. No need to cut holes in a ceiling anymore.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
The good thing at the moment is that we have lots of different lighting options, so realistically with forethought there is no reason to cut into the Air Vapour Control Layer (AVCL)
@freyareid2420
@freyareid2420 2 года назад
Brilliant set of videos wish i checked this before reading hours of planning docs to try simplify the various flat roof designs and construction
@MrFrobbo
@MrFrobbo 8 месяцев назад
Static caravans (flat cold roofs) - would be interested on your take re vapour barriers and excessive condensation. Mine uses the silver thermal /vapour barrier in the cavity between the ceiling and the external tin roof, above a 1.5" layer of rockwall (or similar) and air vents are punchured through poorly and the seal is not remade around them, they are huge condensation traps in this state, leading to dripping on ya head!
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 8 месяцев назад
that's just thermal bridging for you
@MrFrobbo
@MrFrobbo 8 месяцев назад
@@SteveRoofer I've resealed the foil all around the vents and it appears to have solved the huge condensation and dripping issues, but I wonder how to check now it's all sealed, should have installed roof cam 🤣
@larsfars2070
@larsfars2070 2 года назад
A very practical video. Great advice and so true about the internet.
@tonyk132
@tonyk132 2 года назад
Hi Steve, I've always wondered what it is about a thick gauge dpm which makes it unsuitable as a VCL ?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Nothing to do with how thick it is
@_Mark_H
@_Mark_H 2 года назад
DPM is not CE approved for vapour barrier use and must not be used. It is a totally different product.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
@@_Mark_H Yes exactly my point
@9111logic
@9111logic Год назад
All good for my new building where I have been following all the advice discussed with you in the past, but now I'm building a solar shed for all the electronics where there should not be much vapour other than what was there initially. I was thinking of making this unit an air/moisture-tight one from the outside rather than worrying too much about the inside since I'm also adopting a "Warm roof" as well. Any suggestions from this fraternity ?
@innerdowsinglightship
@innerdowsinglightship Год назад
Fantastic explanation. thank you so much for this video.
@felix3943
@felix3943 2 года назад
What’s next can’t wait !!! Become an online boss > Promo>SM!!!
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
More coming at 5 om tonight
@hingamp
@hingamp 2 года назад
One way of getting through this minefield of vapour barriers is to always go for the highest grade on the market. I now specify Intello Plus on all my jobs since it reacts differently to any other membranes: it stops the moisture going through your build-up in winter and it lets any intersticial condensation dry out in summer by opening its pores. In a way, it's an acceptance of not perfect workmanship on site and will resolve some of the moisture building up in your voids. Very clever.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Yes good point I will be testing some of the new intelligent membains shortly
@il1723
@il1723 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer Hi Steve, did you manage to do any tests on the intelligent membranes ?
@rmakkinc
@rmakkinc 11 месяцев назад
@@SteveRoofer Any tests on intelligent membrains? I also would like to know more about this. Your insights are much appreciated!
@benrichards1
@benrichards1 2 года назад
I'm going to use thermaquilt on my walls as the only vapour barrier. They say it acts as a vapour barrier and insulation in one. What do you think?.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
don't know anything about it whats is Sd value ? also make sure its airtight
@benrichards1
@benrichards1 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer its actually called superquilt, and it says vapour resistance 1569 MNs/g.
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
@@benrichards1 so a Sd value of 311 thats good
@benrichards1
@benrichards1 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer thanks for the reply.
@pureblood1415
@pureblood1415 Год назад
Would you advise to foam any gaps?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer Год назад
Any foam we use cans as its easier we have access to large canisters with big guns but they are never in the right place at the right time so we use the more costly way and use individual cans we can go through 24 cans on one roof that around £200 in foam alone
@pureblood1415
@pureblood1415 Год назад
@@SteveRoofer thank you for reply. Yes not cheap eh.
@tonybrown4298
@tonybrown4298 2 года назад
Is air vapour barrier breathable ,
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
You would not say its breathable in fact its probably best to say its restrictive
@_Mark_H
@_Mark_H 2 года назад
Air permeability and moisture vapour permeability are completely different things. The term breathable is very misleading in the construction world.
@adamcunningham2511
@adamcunningham2511 2 года назад
What a con
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Can you explain ?
@adamcunningham2511
@adamcunningham2511 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer there is absolutely no need for one of these things what so ever
@klaeLIFE
@klaeLIFE 2 года назад
Everything is a con when you don't understand it
@adamcunningham2511
@adamcunningham2511 2 года назад
@@klaeLIFE i understand that it completely unessesary
@klaeLIFE
@klaeLIFE 2 года назад
@@adamcunningham2511 please explain so we can save the industry wasting so much plastic
@hotnuts21
@hotnuts21 2 года назад
When doing a warm roof do you need to connect your wall vapour barrier to your roof vapour barrier to make the room airtight and if so, how? With it being on the other side of the deck?
@SteveRoofer
@SteveRoofer 2 года назад
Realistically you cant but you can get close and close is all you need Ill be showing that soon on the test rig
@hotnuts21
@hotnuts21 2 года назад
@@SteveRoofer oh great, I look forward to that soon I hope :-)
@bigboyshit1
@bigboyshit1 Год назад
The plasterboard that now comes with a vapour control layer built in - does that provide the same protection?
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