I've had the Stainless Vargo stove for a few years now and I use a Trangia burner with it, works perfectly bud, for fuel carriage I use the Trangia 1/2 litre fuel bottle which is probably more than enough fuel for several days but if fuel does run out the Vargo takes an open fire, its a proper multi fuel stove 👍🇬🇧
I suspect metal like stainless or brass works better than titanium. I feel like for the burner, titanium doesn't heat the same way and takes too long to fire up. It's just a theory and is not tested yet, but that's my instinct. I like the trangia burner which is brass...it's a solid stove.
I redid my system. Using the Vargo Hexagon wood stove ( 7.4 oz ) , a Evernew Titanium Cross Stand ( .5 oz ) and a Evernew alcohol burner ( 1.2 oz ) . I have a wood burner or an alcohol burner to use. The best is a combination of the two. The Vargo Hexagon wood stove , then the Evernew Titanium cross stand is placed inside where the wood would of been. On the Evenew Cross stand I place the Erernew Titanium alcohol burner. This raises the burner to almost in the sweet spot for the best heat to the pot while the Vargo Hexagon wood stove becomes the wind shield for the burner. In summery , This combination which offers two different ways to have a hot meal only weighs 9.1 ounces
That sounds like a brilliant combo...I looked into the Evernew products. I see the cross...nice and compact. I see the burner too...do you find it to be reasonably efficient on alcohol consumption? I have no practical experience and never know how much fuel to bring. I feel like I will carry more weight in alcohol than I did in gas.
I did a test last december, and my alcohol stove (the burner looks almost exactly like the Trangia burner) used 15ml/0,5 "fluid oz" (which weighs about 11,1g/0,39oz) of methylated spirit to boil 1 cup of water... I live in Norway, and our water gets pretty cold that time of year, and i let it run for a while to get it as cold as possible before doing this test... Im guessing it would take around 15% less fuel if the water was room temperature...
What I like about alcohol burners is there is no smoke, soot, foul smell, soot getting all over the camping gear, and clothes. The wood stoves makes a great wind screen! Using a small cake pan over the wood stove would be perfect to prevent soot from getting to the cook pot if you use wood. Add air holes to the cake pan to reduce smoke. Just a suggestion. If you add dish soap to the cake pan it will be a breeze to get soot off. :)
Thanks, yeah, I definitely need to figure out the combo that works. It's clear that this won't do it. I've been pretty happy with the Trangia...my buddy has it and it seems to burn really nice!
It's easier to use the fero rod if you hold the striker stationary near the alcohol and pull the rod back , quickly. The long handled spoons are really nice and I use one for Freezer Bag cooking because it reaches all the way to the bottom of the bags. The longer you use the alcohol stove the more you will be custom to it and able to judge the amount of alcohol that will be needed. Normally with a narrower pot one ounce of alcohol is all that is needed to boil two cups of water. I like to do the Freezer Bag style of cooking and all that is needed are two cups of boiling water. I also use a wood burning stove and an alcohol stove combination since i like to have that choice. For quick hot water the alcohol stove is nice to have and the wood burner becomes the wind screen for it. .
Ok, cool so it sounds like you have good experience... Here's my question...do you think it's better to carry a smaller narrow pot and maybe boil a few pot's of water if I need to boil it for drinking, or am I better to have a medium or larger pot and boil it once? I am super conflicted in my mind and I feel like I'm best prepared to boil water even though I can filter it. Sometimes I find my only source is a scuzzy pond and it's not ideal...just your thoughts?
That would be a personal choice. It just depends on how much you want to carry and have room for in your pack. The largest one I take is a 32 oz Olicamp. With water that bad you could prefilter the prefilter of your filter with a 1 Micron 4"x8" Singed Polyester Felt Filter Bag PESP3S. ( Amazon has them ) It filters down to 1 micron and you can get ones that filter to 5 microns. When it gets dirty you can toss it or rinse it. Water flows threw the bags at a good rate so there is very little restriction/resistance to the flow after it gets wet. If you used a different container before filtering then filter or treat the water before consuming it. There are some videos on RU-vid of the Polyester bags.
Thanks for this video. I have the hexagon woodstove and was thinking about the converter. I think I'll pass. It doesn't seem very alcohol efficient. I like the hexagon but it is definitely a bit more hassle to gather up all the fuel and break it down into the little pieces that fit in the stove vs. just carrying a pocket rocket. Couple of tips I can pass along on using it in wood mode: dig a little trench under it to provide even more air flow through the bottom vents, that really helps it run better. Also, watch where you it set it up carefully. If the ground is soft, when you put your pot on it, it can sink into the soil and partially close off the bottom vents. The whole design depends on getting a lot of air to go through those holes and create a chimney effect, so you have to make sure they don't get blocked up.
another great video. I like the stove as a wood burning stove but as you were saying using alcohol your gonna need alot for let's say a four day trip. still great review keep it up
Yeah man...the alcohol has me a bit nervous...I got a larger container for it, but now i'm talking about putting all the weight back into what I was trying to shed, and also the volume I wanted to reduce. Doesn't seem like a solution that helps me cut back.
The converter stove is missing an important element that helps conserve the alcohol consumption. Place a penny over the hole and regardless of the instructions try NOT to fill it above that grommet. The boiling time will be shorter and you can get by using only 1 vile of fuel for two boil burns instead of two viles for one burn... plus an added tip if you are using it for boiling water... cold water boils faster. Hope this helps... back in the day they called that converter a penny stove the copper distribution forces the flame through the tiny hole like a pilot light on a regular stove.
@@outerlimitless also if you stuff one of those womens circular cotton makeup pads in the converter before you add the denatured alcohol, it will also lengthen your burn time notably. Similar to the cotton in a zippo lighter. Remember the larger the surface area for alcohol fuel burning, the faster it gets used up. I'm not really into alcohol stoves because in a survival situation, that sort of obtainium is difficult to replicate and hard to come by. Purell hand cleaner works well if you happen to have some in your pocket in an emergency. I look forward to seeing your videos your videos. 👍
now you see, that is why there is no surprise that people who cook with alcohol stick to Trangia, which has proven very reliable for the past 60 years... most of the time I take to the woods a Firebox twig-burner-stove besides a Trangia alcohol burner set and I never had any technical problems (no moving parts) or lack of fuel. In very cold weather or altitude a Svea 123 or Optimus/MSR Whispy gasoline stove works better.
The alcohol stove is great but id ditch it and just use the wood stove. Then no need to worry about fuel to carry. With the side door you can feed it as needed and not have to pull your food off.
Even the wood stove seems like an awful lot of work. It's just not an ideal setup. I'd rather carry gas and a burner...it's like a guarantee that I can cook and I understand it well.
After watching two very disappointing performances of this titanium converter stove, I've determined that its a fail. I'm gonna stick with my Trangia, thank you. Thanks for making the video, my friend.
3D Outdoors they are available on Amazon or eBay for cheap. Amazon was like $9.99 shipped for 5 bottles. eBay had them cheaper, but I needed to buy a larger quantity and wasn't sure I'd need more...but now I wish I bought more. I'd get a dozen if you get them...pretty useful even for other things.
the reason for the massive fuel consumption us because the alcohol part of this stove set is junk. normal good alcohol stoves don't use near that much fuel. vargo put out a dud when they made this alcohol stove. so, if it were me i certainly wouldn't be giving this alcohol stove a positive review because the design of the alcohol stove is very very very poor by any high quality standards. in short, this vargo alcohol stove is junk (not worth buying and not good for free). thumbed up video for effort and for spirit, but wouldn't ever tell anyone to buy this alcohol stove. i would tell them to stay away from it. spend your money on something else.
I totally agree 100%. I did a follow up video to this if you're interested...might shed a little more light onto what I found. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--9FxIbQGssI.html
