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Variable Gearbox - Ravigneaux Gearset 

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Variable Ravigneaux gearset, 5 speeds via clutches but up to 7 are possible (6 forward, 1 reverse). Modeled, animated and rendered in Maya in 1080p 50fps.
0:41 First gear forward, orange carrier is blocked, engine is connected to the red carrier and blue is idling.
1:05 Second gear forward, blue carrier is blocked, engine is connected to the red carrier still and orange is idling.
1:30 Third gear forward, all assemblies connected to engine which gives a 1-1 ratio.
1:56 Forth gear forward, blue carrier is blocked, red is idling and engine is connected to orange carrier.
2:23 Reverse gear, orange is blocked and engine is connected to the blue carrier, red is idling.

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@whengrapespop5728
@whengrapespop5728 3 года назад
This is the first time I’ve understood how this works. Awesome video!
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 3 года назад
Thanks! I will make another when this hits 1 million :)
@EngineersAcademy9204
@EngineersAcademy9204 4 года назад
Planetory Gearbox Animation !! Superb !!
@vadinhopsc
@vadinhopsc 4 года назад
Very clear and beautiful animation.
@michaelbuckers
@michaelbuckers 3 года назад
It's not variable gearbox it's just a planetary differential drive.
@SkylineFinesse
@SkylineFinesse 3 года назад
i was about to say. pretty sure the 5HP19FLA in my audi contains this.
@AutoReignMY
@AutoReignMY 3 года назад
It is variable as stated on the title, I think you meant NOT CONTINUOUSLY variable.
@harrymu148
@harrymu148 3 года назад
its a planetary drive with different settings
@08halit
@08halit 4 года назад
would be interresting to use it as an differential and have it locked as a 4 speed locket on 2 separate ways and gear it out on different rpm to save fuel
@RGV2300
@RGV2300 7 лет назад
you can get 6 speeds here plus reverse, and it's a ravigneaux planetary gearset
@guntherglaser5223
@guntherglaser5223 5 лет назад
Flugzeugfawerke
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 3 года назад
4 speeds
@carlosaugustoortega6254
@carlosaugustoortega6254 5 лет назад
Excelente conjunción de engranajes y acoples.Maravilloso
@drummer_zay9493
@drummer_zay9493 4 года назад
CARLOS AUGUSTO ORTEGA así es, la física de esta application particular es hermosa, que gran mente nos dio Dios para inventar tales maravillas!
@SOPM2007
@SOPM2007 5 лет назад
I like the realism of the plastic parts!
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
Thanks! I could make it much better if I were to re-do it though
@wolfgangh.7027
@wolfgangh.7027 5 лет назад
O.K.: Not continuously variable. They exist FOR bicycles since 1907 (3 gears), 1983 (5 gears) 1993 (7 gears). In use for automobiles also quite a long time. Wonderful to have a look to the inside of it :-)
@DavidG2P
@DavidG2P Год назад
Nope, not for bikes. Those were plain planetary gears, not Ravigneaux sets
@wolfgangh.7027
@wolfgangh.7027 Год назад
@@DavidG2P Sure? For example the Rohloff gear hub (14 gears)? What is the difference then?
@DavidG2P
@DavidG2P Год назад
@@wolfgangh.7027 You were mentioning 3/5/7 gears, I'm referring to those.
@bledlbledlbledl
@bledlbledlbledl 5 лет назад
Oh well that some SPIN on the planetary-gear idea :P
@EngineersAcademy9204
@EngineersAcademy9204 4 года назад
Yes !! Its Really Awesome
@justanotherrandomperson1359
@justanotherrandomperson1359 4 года назад
Bad joke but ok I will congratulate you
@juancarlossaavedra4505
@juancarlossaavedra4505 4 года назад
It looks like a 3 speed gearbox
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 3 года назад
4 and R
@thepope2412
@thepope2412 3 года назад
I can see this being used in a high torque wrench
@RayLovesCars
@RayLovesCars 3 года назад
Pretty common in ford automatic transmissions
@youtuber-xn9of
@youtuber-xn9of 4 года назад
hi. realy helpful and thank you very much for the video. which software did you use to create this animation. i need to create an educational video for children to promote disability awareness. it will be a great help. thank you
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 4 года назад
Thanks! I used Autodesk Maya but would use Blender now.
@tigerseye73
@tigerseye73 6 лет назад
Good animation and useful design. I like.
@uselessguys6621
@uselessguys6621 Год назад
❤ super video very helpful
@kristisx007
@kristisx007 5 лет назад
wow you have just reinvented planetary reductor
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
No, I just animated a random gearset.
@valibekurinbaev8187
@valibekurinbaev8187 3 года назад
good job
@piotrkaliszczyk1591
@piotrkaliszczyk1591 3 года назад
Is this some kind of an animated rigid body simulation, or just animating rotations of the parts?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 3 года назад
Just animating the rotations.
@osamabadr1084
@osamabadr1084 4 года назад
Wonderful
@peixetstudios
@peixetstudios 5 лет назад
Buen trabajo! Enhorabuena!
@alphahelix91
@alphahelix91 4 года назад
sperren die kleinen Räder um dann die Kraft auf die zweite Achse zu übertragen , oder handelt es sich um ein Paradoxon ? Ok das zweite ist ne Kupplung nur der Auslöser fehlt.
@mario_uzumaki
@mario_uzumaki 4 года назад
it’s less weight, but the ratio is not as variable as manual gear set, harder to set up and more friction
@Ademann
@Ademann 5 лет назад
That's just the principle of the simple planetary gear!
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
Well, it goes a bit further in that it's a double planetary gearset. Nothing new indeed, can't someone make an animation of something that has existed for almost a century?
@Ademann
@Ademann 5 лет назад
@@axiom1650 Оkay everything is fine.
@Ademann
@Ademann 5 лет назад
@@axiom1650 1890 company SturmeyArcher in England, produces first 100,000 bicycle hub gears with 3-speed planetary gearbox.
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 5 лет назад
@@axiom1650 well, the title is misleading, it should say Ravigneaux gearset animation, nothing 'Variable' about it as animated.
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 3 года назад
Typically overdrive ratios are the final gears, not first! Otherwise very cool.
@21Trainman
@21Trainman 3 года назад
Is this how they make 7 speed hubs for internally geared bicycles?
@robertmcdonnold3038
@robertmcdonnold3038 5 лет назад
I think a little bit of dialogue for those of us who are not engineers would have been nice.
@quillmaurer6563
@quillmaurer6563 4 года назад
Is this related to the design used on the Toyota Prius? Or is it more like that used on automatic gearboxes with discreet gears and band brakes? Most of my understanding is manual transmissions (I've never taken one apart but I have a good understanding of their function - not so with automatics). I see four possible moving pieces, which basically means three inputs to one output. Lock one and that's two inputs one output, sort of like a Prius to my understanding (engine and motor as inputs, output to wheels), or lock any two and you have one input one output, which I suppose could be used in auto transmissions.
@secrettree
@secrettree 4 года назад
Yeah its like an automatic transmission where clutches lock the inputs at will. The prius transmission is very similar except it doesn't lock the inputs, it varies them using electrically. I think they use electric motors (as a generator) to vary the torque to the inputs. This way some of the energy can be harvested vs wasting it to heat like a clutch.
@martinhickman3390
@martinhickman3390 6 лет назад
Is this not very similar to the Sturmey Archer S3X hub, like AW hub but without the ratchet Pawls?
@avid0g
@avid0g 4 года назад
Why does the orange member have three arches? Does this reduce total mass? I would expect six spokes attached at tangents to the hub. Spiral-cut gears for torque and low vibration. Plenty of room for more planetary gears to increase torque.
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 4 года назад
It's nothing but a fictional design, thanks for the insight though.
@danielramirezcruz.2209
@danielramirezcruz.2209 6 лет назад
Good video interesting.. thanks
@peixetstudios
@peixetstudios 5 лет назад
Muy interesante!!! :)
@DownhillAllTheWay
@DownhillAllTheWay 6 лет назад
In all the machines I know (a car included) the gearbox drives an output shaft. In this design, there are two outputs turning at different speeds (apart from where the whole thing is apparently locked and turning as a unit). Before being convinced of its viability, I would have to see how it gets connected to the output shaft. It seems to me that further gearing would be required.
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 6 лет назад
You'd do well to re-evaluate your knowledge, this very design is in a good portion of cars on the road and has been used for almost 100 years. People seem to assume I'm trying to show something new here.
@DownhillAllTheWay
@DownhillAllTheWay 6 лет назад
VRBTech - It's a shame you didn't back that up with more information - like which cars use it, and how the two output speeds get translated into a single speed to drive the wheels. I'm not saying you're wrong, nor am I arguing with you, but as I said before, "I would have to see how it gets connected to the output shaft. It seems to me that further gearing would be required". As two components of what you have shown are rotating at different speeds, there clearly has to be something more between this gearbox and the differential, in which case, the system you have shown is not the entire geartrain - but only a component of it.
@mickvonbornemann3824
@mickvonbornemann3824 5 лет назад
Most torque converter automatics, I assume
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 5 лет назад
@@DownhillAllTheWay It is a Ravigneaux gearset. In practice the ring gear is always the output, wet clutch packs and band brakes control the power flow to the input shafts. This system was used in 3 and 4 speed automatics. It was used in, among others, Borg Warner DG 150/200/250, M35, M8, M12, Ford FMX, AOD, and 4R70. As for which cars used it, Studebaker, Ford, AMC, Jaguar Rover Triumph MG, Citroen, Datsun, Volvo, SAAB and many more.
@glsdelta1
@glsdelta1 5 лет назад
Clutches are used to couple the output elements to the output shaft.
@eduardoluisjuillerat3523
@eduardoluisjuillerat3523 5 лет назад
Versión moderna de la caja de cambios de Ford T, la que tenia 2 adelante y Marcha atras
@blu3_enjoy
@blu3_enjoy 3 года назад
how do it lock
@entdeckungssucherderfinder2482
@entdeckungssucherderfinder2482 3 года назад
Neues Automatikgetriebe von Citroen 🚗 ? 😉
@sinomirneja771
@sinomirneja771 3 года назад
What dictates how fast the orbit is turning?
@carmelpule6954
@carmelpule6954 6 лет назад
It is a variable gearbox if the outside circumference is a slipping clutch.
@susie3702
@susie3702 6 лет назад
put that way all auto boxes are variable if you slip the clutch
@MyAheer
@MyAheer 7 лет назад
hi it will be very useful if u can animate a drivetrain of rear wheel drive mid engine car you know gearbox and differential i want to build one and don't know it works
@chasinelwood1977
@chasinelwood1977 5 лет назад
Hey there. Is it possible for you to share the 3D models for this device? I'd be greatly appreciative of it
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 4 года назад
Would you need it for printing? I started making a printable model but never finished it.
@breakfast7595
@breakfast7595 2 года назад
@@axiom1650 a 3d model would be great to learn the principle
@huntersmith1372
@huntersmith1372 3 года назад
Aren’t these used on some E-Bikes?
@SANDSHOE
@SANDSHOE 6 лет назад
Did this automatic transmission will work for electric engine?? See in my vlog...
@jimgreene3863
@jimgreene3863 5 лет назад
nice video BUT I hate it when there is no commentary or text about info on this very nice item
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
There is some info right below the video. A good explanation can be found if you search "How Automatic Transmissions Work" by Thomas Schwenke. This video was merely made to test my hardware and software for rendering.
@suzukispider
@suzukispider 6 лет назад
variable how? it's a simple planetary set with an extra gear. and you can't turn the big one backwards if that represents the engine, engines only go in one direction. you showed orange held still twice, and the impossible backwards engine. other than the extra gear, how is this different from a standard planetary set?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 6 лет назад
Variable: capable of being varied or changed; alterable; it is not a fixed ratio gearbox. The engine can be connected to any shaft (or the ring gear) via clutches, in reverse it still turns in the same direction. Something you could have figured by reading the description and a simple google search, which is where you'll find the answer to your last question.
@jackmatthews4437
@jackmatthews4437 5 лет назад
Sorry to say but this is NOT a variable gearbox, It is a an every day planet system used in many transmissions. 6 fwd's and 2 rev's, depending on what you hold and what you turn.
@leonardreynen2988
@leonardreynen2988 5 лет назад
this design has a fatal flaw, one of the planetary sets is supported on only one side, doubt that its used commercially.
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
It's merely an animation/representation, not how it would actually be built.
@prochanel5865
@prochanel5865 3 года назад
God job. Orang Indonesia kaga bisa bikin ini, bisanya ngamok2 minta jatah duit doang taunya. Cape deh.
@riteskills
@riteskills 6 лет назад
and what's the difference between this and a regular automatic that's been know for ages?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 6 лет назад
This is also nothing new (originates in the 40's). Ravigneaux gearboxes are common these days. The 'Simpson' gearbox was/is an alternative which has multiple normal planetary gearsets while the Ravigneaux allows for a smaller amount of needed gears & gear carriers. This allows a lighter and cheaper construction.
@madilynb.5552
@madilynb.5552 7 лет назад
sounds like something you could do ?
@denispalmer1937
@denispalmer1937 3 года назад
a better simpler stronger system is available continuously variable, with reverse going into production soon, fewer moving parts,
@Greatdome99
@Greatdome99 3 года назад
Still need clutches to change gears, so not that different than current automatic XMSNs
@MaitreFou974Officiel
@MaitreFou974Officiel 7 лет назад
sounds like exactly the same that an GM automatic gearbox, for example on bmw E46, no ?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 7 лет назад
No idea to be honest.
@annaplojharova1400
@annaplojharova1400 4 года назад
Many US 3- and 4-speed automatic indeed use this concept. The 4-speed then has another ring with a band brake around the orange planets (the physical arrangement is a bit different, of course), placing one gear between the 1'st and 2'nd of the 3-speed basic topology.
@rogerbeck2085
@rogerbeck2085 3 года назад
Where can I buy one
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 6 лет назад
This is a Ravigneaux gearset.
@aliawadallhassnsaadhassn5397
@aliawadallhassnsaadhassn5397 5 лет назад
Severely complicated you can make it easy easy
@brucerogermorgan2388
@brucerogermorgan2388 6 лет назад
Planetary gear sets have been around for 100 years, what's so new about this one?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 6 лет назад
Bruce Roger Morgan Absolutely nothing. Only for the purpose of animating the video.
@ShocKBsB
@ShocKBsB 6 лет назад
Bruce Roger Morgan -- At the age of 100 you had no comment. So what's new is you.
@lostguy2023
@lostguy2023 2 месяца назад
No sound? WTF?
@amyvari4462
@amyvari4462 4 года назад
Can you plzzz tell me the software name?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 4 года назад
Autodesk Maya & Redshift. However I'd recommend blender.
@rafiekahmed8568
@rafiekahmed8568 4 года назад
Hello where is the output taken fromm
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 4 года назад
The output can be taken from different shafts depending on configuration, in this case the output is taken from the large outer inverse ring gear.
@thiagopolli8129
@thiagopolli8129 5 лет назад
It is solidworks?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
No, modeled in Autodesk Maya and rendered with a GPU raytracer called Redshift.
@oussamathedjfreeman
@oussamathedjfreeman 11 месяцев назад
Stl files to print plz
@MyAheer
@MyAheer 7 лет назад
mid engine rear wheel drive animation and if u cant plz send me the link of any available video
@ReachShaunNow
@ReachShaunNow 6 лет назад
I can develop what you need. I charge though.
@cuocsongtaybac868
@cuocsongtaybac868 Год назад
Hay
@MisbokulMisbokul-td3ww
@MisbokulMisbokul-td3ww 10 месяцев назад
fire simplex device remover l video please
@vaioskaliakoudas6388
@vaioskaliakoudas6388 7 лет назад
Would this work in a car?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 7 лет назад
This principle is used in many gearboxes in cars.
@stevewyatt3339
@stevewyatt3339 5 лет назад
Ford Planetary..............
@madilynb.5552
@madilynb.5552 7 лет назад
do you do drawings of gear sets and animation ?let me know
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 7 лет назад
Yes, this animation was drawn, 3D modeled, animated and rendered by myself.
@madilynb.5552
@madilynb.5552 7 лет назад
i want to see a less complicated (in parts )planetary .
@madilynb.5552
@madilynb.5552 7 лет назад
compound gear ratios within a planetary gear set ,and to be able to change ratios easily .input sun gear held carrier out put ring gear .and only two sets of tumblers opposing each other ?possible?
@madilynb.5552
@madilynb.5552 7 лет назад
need more information ?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 7 лет назад
I understand you mean more of an application since you talk about input/changing ratios? Definitely possible but I'm afraid it would take to long as I'm very short on spare time atm.
@axelgaard1
@axelgaard1 6 лет назад
do you have 3d plans of this gear?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 6 лет назад
Only polygonal model, and not very well optimised. I'll have to check if I still have the model.
@JoaoHSP
@JoaoHSP 4 года назад
@@axiom1650 If you could send me, i'd really appreciate.
@liod_9
@liod_9 3 года назад
мой мозг не в состоянии это постичь
@anrg726
@anrg726 5 лет назад
Invalid variator. For this you need 3 electric motors. If you have at least 1 electric motor, why invent a variator?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
Read the description? It's nothing more than an animation of a Ravigneaux gearset, patented almost a century ago.
@Deste95
@Deste95 5 лет назад
actually you need only 1 electric motor to control the orange part, then you can get a variable continues transmission between the red one and the blue one. for example you can connect your engine to the red part, and your wheel set to the blue one, and use a small electric motor (much smaller than the main engine) to control the gear ratio
@paulchainkang
@paulchainkang 5 лет назад
Could you provide the 3D models for 3D Print?
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
I could if you would provide pictures of the result :) How do I send you the data?
@paulchainkang
@paulchainkang 5 лет назад
@@axiom1650 Yes, I will provide pictures of the result, successes or failures. Please send the models to Disposable Temporary E-mail address: cucob@maillink.top Thank you in advance.
@paulchainkang
@paulchainkang 5 лет назад
@@axiom1650 Another way is to upload your models to Thingiverse, www.thingiverse.com/.
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
@@paulchainkang I will need to make some edits to make it properly printable, what dimensions would you want the entire piece to be? And what are the tolerances of your machine? It won't be very scalable as I have to take the tolerances into account.
@paulchainkang
@paulchainkang 5 лет назад
@@axiom1650In the case you need to spend more time and effort to make the mode printable, I would rather not bother you for this. May be next time, Thank you for the kind responses.
@rogerwalsberg
@rogerwalsberg 7 лет назад
Not variable
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 7 лет назад
This was mainly a test for rendering animations, but it seems it's not the best choice of title, as it implies it would be a CVT gearbox.
@HammyWheeler
@HammyWheeler 6 лет назад
It is variable... just not continuously variable. Title is correct.
@driverjamescopeland
@driverjamescopeland 5 лет назад
It's a spur gear planetary differential. You CAN build a variable transmission from any open differential... but it's not a transmission 'til you incorporate some means on controlling the bias. This is basically a single axis version of what in your average automotive axle. The core of the Toyota Prius transmission is based on the same principle.
@Person01234
@Person01234 3 года назад
@@axiom1650 I don't think "variable" implies "continuously variable". In fact I think the exact opposite - If something is "continuously" variable this must be to differentiate it from other types of variable that exist. CVTs are continuously variable because their ratio varies continuously (without steps). It inherently implies that being simply "variable" (in gear ratio) is something that can be done non-continuously. Otherwise CVTs would just be called VTs.
@TheGOATPerfectFunny3489
@TheGOATPerfectFunny3489 5 лет назад
Part name please .
@axiom1650
@axiom1650 5 лет назад
Purely imaginative part.
@yamaan93
@yamaan93 5 лет назад
send cads plz
@clinthunt5933
@clinthunt5933 5 лет назад
very cool yet not variable
@eLJaybud
@eLJaybud 5 лет назад
It's called a planetary gearbox, nothing new here.
@phalanx3803
@phalanx3803 4 года назад
well yes an no while it not completely new its that no one uses it most planetary gearbox use 2 or more planetary's where this is one planetary meaning it can much more com pact but the mainstream keep using multi planetary's so this style never took off.
@phalanx3803
@phalanx3803 4 года назад
well yes an no while it not completely new its that no one uses it most planetary gearbox use 2 or more planetary's where this is one planetary meaning it can much more com pact but the mainstream keep using multi planetary's so this style never took off.
@phalanx3803
@phalanx3803 4 года назад
well yes an no while it not completely new its that no one uses it most planetary gearbox use 2 or more planetary's where this is one planetary meaning it can much more com pact but the mainstream keep using multi planetary's so this style never took off.
@phalanx3803
@phalanx3803 4 года назад
well yes an no while it not completely new its that no one uses it most planetary gearbox use 2 or more planetary's where this is one planetary meaning it can much more com pact but the mainstream keep using multi planetary's so this style never took off.
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