Khorne was birthed from murders, Tzeentch from schemes and plots, Nurgle through rot and decay and Slaanesh of course is the fault of the elves... But Vashtorr was the creation of every mechanic who used Percussive Maintenance on their machines..
Bringing Vashtorr into the story is a way to actually make it, make sense that Peter Turbo stays chaos. Machine crafting chaos god + Peter Turbo is a match made in the warp.
I love iron warriors and this is what I’m thinking. It would help make a lot of things make sense and also has a lotta different routes to take. You could make Peter Turbo a demon, Prince or to where he looks like he’s a demon prince, but he actually is just an giant life-support suit or they could still go the route that he infected himself with the obliterator virus…..well a more perfected form.
One thing we need to understand about the warp is that the chaos gods aren't the warp, they are the strongest forces in the warp yes, but they don't define the warp
@skypiratecaptain welp yes...zeetch sent a greater demon to the deep warp on a intel operation lol it came back insane....that dickhead karos fateweaver. One head speaks truth the other head lies.
I’m hoping he’s successful, it would make sense if Perty somehow slips up and becomes an avatar for his cause. A charged up demon-dread-primarch would be dope AF!!!!
@@guilherme5094 fabulous bill is my favorite. Manflayer is up there with betrayer as far as epic monologs and funny stuff but he did sell his soul to the lady boi themselves for the help in keeping his children safe. Even tho he died but didn't and he still had a soul for kanathara to try to take at the end of the story......
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I will Third that second all night long, Good Enemies be hard to find! Ole Bale Eye is Legendary amongst the Imperium and Orks and for damn good reason.
Thats a good question. Id definitely say he could represent a few things really. Intelligence, ambition and will power seem decent ideas but maybe he could also be involved in the act of billions augmenting themselves with bionics and mechanical prosthetics and could draw some of his (un)divinity from that or at least once he achieves apotheosis? IDK this is just a very quick glossing over and I haven't had a chance to really read a lot of novels or anything with a great deal of vashtorr so this is a very baseline scrutiny of his character.
This entire battle with the Dark Wusses went completely illogical. Explaining: Power Armour, Shieldings, Mechanics, all that is somewhat of technological nature, is under influence of Vashtor. He can make Power Armours kill their inhabitants, then control them onwards. He can turn any shielding against their makers/controllers. He can divert energies, stop energies, or start energies to flow where, when, and how he wants. Those with brain implants, and this would be about all of them, could be influenced in thought and action by him. He can make entire ships battle their own fleet, by "mere thought". How so? ALL of technological nature is revealed to him as he looks at it, and can be, therefore, be manipulated by him. He can simply order technological mechanics at will, though literally willpower over the mechanics, or through "Techno-Speak", in essense, base Machine Code, or Binary (in our reality). Now, here we see the EXACT SAME THING happen as with the Borg in Star Trek: MASSIVELY underplayed compared to their abilities, corrupted in this manner, only to "serve the story". Sure, the Borg were INVINCIBLE at first (but were corrupted along the way, weakened, "idiotified", through things like that IMPOSSIBILITY: the "Borg Queen", which is 1'000% Anti-Borg in nature, for one.). If you do something as stupid and create an overwhelming foe that can't be dealt with in normal ways, DEAL with it, and do not start to "unmake" it, by weakening it in whatever way. That is extremely poor writing, extremely poor thinking, in short, extremely unintelligent qualitative creation. Dead simple fact.
Think it through: He is already the God of Technology! None other has these abilities, as he has them. USE THEM, even if it kills the whole franchise. Why? Well, because that would happen in reality. Lesson to be learned here? Don't be a fool and create unbeatable god-beings. THINK before you DO. Then think it over, make SURE it works out. Then do this last step 20 times over, to eliminate possible creative suicide!!! Just do not "underwhelm" an "overwhelming" creation in his actions, abilities, or resistances. Keep it realistic, only THEN, you get quality creation!!! Feel free to disagree, but motivate it in a proper way. "Just because." is not an argument. Why not? Well, JUST BECAUSE. *Grins coldly with a gleam of fake intelligence in his eyes* There. :P In all seriousness: Because, without proper motivation, reasons become lies: Or: If not motivated, you give the impression not to understand it, and remove the chance for the other to reply on it, or to learn of a different logical point of view. Which is never a good thing, for either side of a conversation.
[Not literally, but for reason, later explained in this reply] "Vashtor took control over the defence platforms, and turned them into Be'lakor's army, annihilating many, and gravely wounding Be'lakor." And now, the reason: This exact part proves what I said afore: Vashtor can take control over anything that is somewhat of technological form, and either remake it, simply "kill it" (in it's workings), or turn it against it's own users. And STILL Vastor lost this one? Get real.
On the OTHER hand: Be'lakor (The First-Damned AKA "The One Who Heralds the Conquerors" and "The Dark Master"), equally so, was underplayed here. He's the Master of Betrayal, and could have used his powers to undermine the loyalty of Vashtor's supporting armies or their generals/commanding officers. But no, let's not do that, though it would have been a severe blow to Vashtor, and thus logical and realistic to do so. But why be logical and realistic? Let's not do this, and kill the whole story, the whole franchise, by not doing so. Since, "that is logical and thus realistically good to do so." It matters not, as there are billions on inconsistencies allover the WH40k Lore, what makes another one more? And this, then, explains the intellect that drives Games Workshop. Or, the lack thereof.
Another example of this "Underplaying" issue; the Tyranid: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This happened with the Tyranid and the Orcs in the Orctarius War: The Tyranid came out victorious, and HOW!!! VASTLY improved by the "Great Orc Munching Fest", the Tyranid Leviathan Fleet got pounded by the Empire??? Not even remotely so!!! It was a moron's move to have the Tyranid and Orc clash, as the outcome was dictated even before the idea came to bear by Kryptman (Well, the writer, really.). The Tyranid overcome all obstacles, as they can "adapt on the fly" to whatever form of technology, tactics, or masses they encounter. This alone gave the Tyranid the overwhelming certainty of complete overwhelming victory over the Orcs, and by that, IMMENSE further bolstering of their species. One with half a fish-brain of a million-year-dead goldfish would not have even CONSIDERED pulling this stunty off in ANY a story, but the writer(s) did. With consequences. Consequences that were completely ignored, UNDONE even, in the following clash with the Empire of ManUnkind!!! Blasphemy! And with the Tyranid, equally so, this is a continuity: Underplayed, misplayed, corrupted despite set Law and Lore. Why people allow this is beyond me. It's becoming a second "Star Wars - Acolyte", where Anti-Lore and Idiocies rule that realm. Maybe we can call this in Warhammer "Warhammer 40K - Acolyte", Warhammer 40K - The Kathleen Kennedyfied Edition", "Warhammer 40K Disneyfied Edition" or "Warhammer 40K -Anti-Lore Edition"? Merely thinking out loud, here ... . So in- and in sad ... .
