Vauxhall Grandland FIRST LOOK : Supersized winner or waste of space? | Electrifying 

​@@PhilBaxter cry about it.

Same here. With a growing family (ie. Height wise teenage/pre-teenage children) this looks like it could fit the bill. Will see how it compares to the Enyaq when review comes out.

Fingers crossed on the price. Hopefully Stellantis will have enough sense to undercut the Tesla MY, which is probably the benchmark in this segment. Although as far as I am concerned this seems to be a more practical car than the TMY.

V a u x h a l l ist Back 🇬🇧

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Worst car I have ever owed would never consider the mark ever

Agreed. Bought one brand new in 2021 and kept it 9 months as it was so bad. Thanks to COVID, and the lack of new cars, I only lost £600. Lesson learned.

@@nicksmpsn6546 which one? GM era or one of the three post GM models (current Corsa, Mokka and Astra)?

@@mirkozlikovski9553 It was an Astra following Vauxhall's takeover by Stilantis. It had the 1.2 turbo Peugeot unit.

This is allot more spacious, the 3008 is cramped.

@@oliverstemp9132i think the Grandland compete more with the 5008, not the 3008 dimension wise

@@micheleoncini8369 apparently it will match the 3008 on price

You mean Peugeot

@@garystreet6756 It's not that simple... Since this one has a longer wheelbase and a different body and interior from the back seat onwards, it's also a different chassis setting and other components, and a different suspension with self-adjusting shock absorbers and the headlights and seats that are not found in Peugeot at all . Peugeot has not been involved in any of these changes and differences.

@@Djeseret I will concede it’s better looking than the old model which is bland boring and ugly compared to the 3008. The French don’t have a great track record in supporting UK brands. I’m old enough to remember Roots and Hillman wiped out by Peugeot.

You know they were just rebadged Chevrolet before that.

@@oliverstemp9132 Yes it is a very... interesting topic… A well-kept secret on par with the cover-up of UFOs on American bases, is GM's stone-cold ban on revealing how much work Opel did for American GM. GM was afraid that the American brand and the national pride that it was 100 % American designed and developed cars would be damaged, if it came out that it was not true. When Opel worked at its peak for American GM, more than 50 % of the Opel business consisted of designing and engineering, what everyone... in the US thought were all-American products... In fact, apart from the very largest and SUV / pickups and the Corvette and the Camaro, (with the exception of some minor detail such as the steering wheel which is sometimes designed by Opel) - the majority of Chevrolets are designed and even technically engineered in Europe by Opel and not by GM in the US. This task was carried out on behalf of Chevrolet according to Chevrolet's specifications and wishes to suit the American market, but still, it was Opel who did the work. I even have rare photo evidence of how a covered prototype of the new 2016 Chevrolet Cruze being rolled out from Opel Deign, or GM Design Europ As it was then called, because they worked for many GM brands. Sometimes Opel has leaked images where they are working on components for Chevrolet in the background, without commenting on what is going on. There are masked cars that briefly rolled in Europe, but which then appear in some remote part of the US and which then turn out to be a new Chevrolet or Buick. In some cases, they even retain Opel's special camouflage that was not used by American GM. The American prestige project Chevrolet Volt is based on the Opel Astra and around 86 % of the technology was developed and engineered by Opel who also developed the finished car and made everything work Volt appearance and body was designed in the US by Chevrolet, this time only certain components of the visible such as steering levers and the steering wheel came from Opel, transferred straight from Astra, but if you look at the interior and the design of the panel, you recognize that it is an Astra underneath the surface. The entire program and technical development was transferred from Germany to the US for the final work under the direction of Opel engineers and Opel product manager and electric car expert Frank Weber - Now BMW's technical development manager who led the development of BMW's entire electric car program, he was bought over by an impressed BMW right after the VOLT program was finished. The purpose of this was to hide the foreign interference and to market that GM was important to the US and was driving American leadership and American superior technology - for political reasons, as GM received government support during the economic crisis. The fact that the new leading advanced super technology from GM was not... American, could have caused major political problems in Washington. And speaking of electric cars... the famous GM EV1 was entirely based on technology developed by Opel and carried over from the Opel Astra Impulse 3 With a new battery and a new electric motor, but otherwise based on the Astra, that too... You will find one of the preserved EV1s in the Opel museum for this reason. Opel design chief Mark Adams was head of Cadillac design in 2012 and 2013. So, to put it simply, it's Chevrolet and Buick that are rebadged Opel...

No there is nothing on the steering wheel, there is nothing shiny at all on the steering wheel, not even the emblem...

Yeah, I got a Volvo one! Like this car a lot so no contest.

You could always get a specialist to do it for you if not.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of Wolseley's light-up badges when she said that. I was a bit too young to own one though.

I think you are right however Peugeot and Renault are not far behind.

Yes, I think so, full marks to Vauxhall. There are downsides, they are quite pricey for Vauxhalls and the WLTP range on the small to midsize models is underwhelming.

@@sharonec5419Renault are ‘fully electrified’ already.

​@oliverstemp9132 the clio isn't available as an EV yet, only as a Hybrid

@@carlbell2007 that is ‘electrified’ then.

Doubt it, the electric vauxhauls Are overpriced.

How does a stellantist feel...are they a stellantophile or a stellantophobe I wonder?😂

That's good, be a nice price second hand😅

😄 LOL, I have only just noticed that! I wonder where they drive Left hand drive Vauxhalls!

Prorotypes Still

Watch the welt cambelt disintegrate before your eyes through the oil filler cap and leave you with a fix bill more than the vehicles value

@@csabazsinko3749 it will be serviced by a Vauxhall garage every 10,000 miles, as long as you use the correct oil, and regular services, it will last, it will get replaced after three years.

On Stellantis group's current pricing this won't be less than £45000 with top model over £50000. Then when it doesn't sell they'll provide 'discounts' to what it should be priced to around £35000

It will be priced similar to the sister car Peugeot e-3008 which is close to 50 grand 😅

@@brummiesalteno-81that would be a real shame, this seems to be a genuinely nice car, but £50,000 is too much for a Vauxhall. If Stellantis want to sell this they need to price it just below the Tesla Y.

@@hishamg agreed.

Brands within Stellantis are just competing against one another.

Exactly. And so one could easily imagine the ‘weaker’ ones disappearing…

@@thomash2806 Years ago, the motoring press used to do group tests for different brands which were very much appreciated by car buyers. Now, this doesn't happen because most of the cars in any one segment are from the same conglomerate, VW or Stellantis. Using same platform but with a different body and badge put on

To be fair, the Corsa was/is overpriced and have really bad specs compared to most other vehicles. Like the Astra/308, their specs are like 5-6 year old, yet roughly same price as a Tesla Model 3.

@@Colt16v Good point 👍

Opel brakes are usually better adjusted than the others... as they are set to cope with constant braking from top speed on the Autobahn, which is a requirement that the other brands do not prioritize.

Oh yeah🤔🤪

Who says you can't have the Scenic?

​@@sharonec5419my wife ! 😂 We're of an age that we remember when Renault's were notorious for their bad electrics. My wife can't forget that history with a Renault electric car.😂 I know, I've tried.....😅🤷

@@judebrown4103 Awe OK. Well all you can do is try. She's the boss.

No opel badge

Also I'd like to add... It's good that they fixed the cupholder problem with current Grandlands. For an SUV/Family car, the removeable cupholder design seems very much as a last minute addition. There's not enough, it's not versitile enough for different containers and it's easy to damage and loose. For me it is the poorest point on a Grandland. I can see this new version, they've fixed that issue.

That's great as far as I'm concerned, I want one but would only ever buy used!

Because it's logistically easier for their limited run batch of show cars to be the same and they know 99% of people who see this won't care either way

It is an opel where they temporarily changed the badge. Watch one of the german Versions of this Review...

It's such an old-timey sounding name, just makes me think of "Grandad"!

Expect Stellantis rip off prices then DISCOUNTS!

Hi - it because outside of the UK, these cars are sold as Opels. They change the badges depending on where the reviewer is from.

As a British car (hope made in Britain or bit of it), may I suggest one of our wonderfully named towns. Living in the UK, we have so many to choose from that will raise an eyebrow and may cause a snigger or two. Shitterton or Cockermouth? Nah, not right for this car Wetwang, Fingeringhoe or Nether Wallop, wait what about Lower Swell... hmmmm? 🤔 No I know, I give you the Vauxhall Netherthong 😆🤣

​@@FinglebatI think the only Vauxhalls made in Britain now are some of the Vans (alongside their Citroen, Peugeot, Opel can alternatives)

@@Finglebat LOL...they really are terrible