Guru Kapiel, Grt video....sure this man is a genius!!!! now its time to bring back another genius.....Prashant Trivedi .....PTavataar.....what do you say.
Absolute genius indeed! I could just listen to him all day! Can't believe he knows about reptilians! When I talk about reptilians to people, they think I'm crazy. He is speaking the words that I want to say, but find difficult to translate! Thank you!
@@ao1920 literally in the first minute of the video, Santos states how sidereal and tropical are essentially just two separate but equally useful languages in uncovering the deep multi-layered symbolic meanings within astrology. It’s NOT necessarily a belief system, as I speak English and Spanish, but am more polished and effective communicating in English.
@KRSchannel ... I just wanted to say, I have SO MUCH respect for you!! It takes courage to show the world you are open to this kind of information. I honor you for that, kind Sir!! ✨🙏✨
Thank you so very much for having Santos back!!! Santos, I am so happy to see you portraying your wisdom in a positive manner. Not sure why you got into name calling but that anger seems to have left you... The key to living what Santos is talking about day-to-day is to be 'self full'. Our humanity is based on living in our hearts with free will and determination. This means that you should do things, ie: act, in order to make yourself happy. The only caveat is that it's not at the detriment of others. Aggregating, organizing, and socializing people IS the controlling mechanism. It is the propaganda the church invented saying that you need to sacrifice yourself for the greater good. The Christ Consciousness is within each one of us. You don't need to go through anyone/ anything in order to ascend. Jesus is a metaphor. The hive mentality is the poisonous concept that we have been infected with. Starve the beast people -- stop picking a side as that is what creates the divide and conquer. Get rid of your TV, stop eating meat, stop drinking booze and pop, drive less, walk more, boycott Starbucks, Walmart, McDonalds, etc., buy only non GMO local produce... you get it. Corporatism IS Fascism and that is what we are living under. Profits only can't guide us humanely. I am the light, powerful and joyful, right now and for eternity, gratefulness for what we receive everyday. Peace
I disagree. I have read and researched so much myself for years now... Santos is quite amazing when you study physics, as I have, and see the proof that we live in a wave form universe. His agenda? It's his business. I wish him well quite frankly. Jenn M, what you need to understand is that listening to anybody's view exclusively is dangerous. Take the gems from every person whom you meet. Again, all I know is that so many seemingly crazy things that Santos talks about are truth when you look into quantum physics (haha, even though there are no quanta) math. I am creating my own reality and building my own beliefs from my own experiences. I encourage you to do the same. If you don't then you are merely participating in the theatre at the the literary level of existence (which is fine by the way). There are however higher levels, philosophical and spiritual. The first level is literal. I am the light, powerful and joyful, right now and for eternity, gratefulness for what we receive everyday. Peace
But genetic modification is not all bad, your taking a side there, and you are genetically modified as a human.... And its not realistic to boycott everything... That also creates a whole perfectionist ideology... lol Really no need to stress it you want to watch Game of Thrones- its all good there is much to learn form it, you don't have the "right" food, and all you got is x meal its all good, you want to have some coffee from Starbucks once in a blue its all good no crime committed its called life on Earth one life out of billions- its all good. See all this can go in so many ways.... This in of itself can create so many stresses, I don't think thats the point of this life, but more that each soul has their own individual paradigm, and goals within the whole. Just another perspective.
Damn dude, thank you for putting so much into perspective, and so clearly too. This comment will help many people, but guaranteed at least one, for life, because you just made so many things click together in my head. Peace harmony, love and gratitude onto you.
+Illusions You can come up with solutions or you can be lazy. Buy an earth box, grow your food, and be independant of corporations. Grow in one box till you learn then buy more, you can easily support yourself and you will literally have more than you can eat. If you want to perpetuate demonology into the world you can, but dont act like you sre being forced to and you cant not do it no matter what lol because that is absolutely not true.
I can see you facing your own words from your books right now about why you follow the sidereal system and, I absolutely love that conflict in your mind and the way you try to agree and you may be thinking "tropical is somehow actually accurate too, and I cant deny it OMG"... This is priceless! Human evolution is priceless!
KRSchannel - Learn Astrology Interesting; I was called a double-Scorpio (AS and Moon) Magha Nakshatra by a vedic astrologer. I looked it up and discovered i have many of the characteristics of the Magha, down to the beauty mark on my right thumb. And I though I was going crazy when I felt like Venus was communicating with me. Turns out I have Mercury and Venus conjunct in the 12th house, so things are beginning to add up. Understanding astrology seems to come to me naturally so I'm learning it to study my daughter's chart. Let's just say I also have Uranus in the 5th in Scorpio. Her chart blows my mind. But there will be much fewer secrets for her than most.
you do a lot of good videos conversing with other astrologers. if you're open to ideas from viewers, how about a roundtable sort of discussion with you and Kapiel and a few others, riffing on this topic, the validity, overlap and relevance of the two systems?
He is a ignorant human being whom believes the earth is flat. How can such a mororinc human be called a legend. Hes talking about the procession which can only happen on a globe. Wake up and tell Santa to shut up
Research flat earth brother, i came across flat earth while wanting to become an astronaut and doing a lot of research, the globe model is a joke and i cant believe i ever fell for that nonsense
I have been learning alot of things recently and I would say that Santos Bonacci has definitely played a part in my awakening. I have only looked at vedic astrology recently and now thanks to your channel I will look forward to studying the sidereal as much as I have enjoyed studying the tropical ❤❤❤
I am only just looking in to VEDIC AND WESTERN ASTROLOGY so you guys blow me away! Thank you so much both of you. Santos, I sent a friends request to, hoping I could be honored to join him on this wonderful journey of knowledge. I am so inspired to train in Vedic. I have ordered the Upanishads the other day to help me understand better being that I am from such a WESTERN CONDITIONING. Yikes. Hope I can learn it as I love it so much.
OMG THANK YOU! I have just started studying astrology and I have been unbelievably confused by the two systems. After listening to Santo's explanation it has all clicked. Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy! :D
Wow, loved every minute of the interview KRS! Thank you for having Santos on...been listening to his stuff for a while through the years but never heard his idea on flat earth. I felt his explanation of the torus field was superb and beautiful at the same time!
In fact, I have heard about the themes spoken in this video. this video was amazing.. I love the interaction between both. Actually that the earth is flat is something that actually resonates and makes all sense. I have been focusing on it for quite a while.. And the correlation the line of though was really good. I am studying astrology (tropical) but something connects me to the sidereal.. that´s why i also follow your videos. Great video. Great Info. Loved it!! Please continue with this interaction cause it is simply FABULOUS :) the connection between everything its something way to precious and AMAZING!! Thank You for sharing :) Once again Love it!! :D
Thanks for this, KRS. I've always just found, at least since I discovered it, Vedic to me more accurate than Western. Vedic also to me seems to have more dark, and more realistic interpretations too. The fact that Western/Tropical doesn't account for the precession of the Equinox seems to be a good argument to me, but Ill see what this man has to say..
The reason Srila Veda-Vyasa described earth as a flat in Bhagavat, is that it would take much more time and chapters to explain astronomy in detail (wich is not the focus of His Bhagavat book) as he also give the seven up lines and seven lows as was explained in this video. Explaining earth as flat he explained more easyly about the 14 planetary systems to us, but if we study others vedic text wich focus on astronomy its clear the earth is a globe as Richard Thompson, a vedic scientist, astronomer and mathematician teacher in many Universities have prooved in many ways.
pls help lol. So basically eastern is more concerned with the life path and the soul of the individual ? and western is dealing more with the emotions and how your mind actually works?
The book he's reading is an audiobook I listened to by chance one night I got really high and it made my understanding of this stuff so much more in just a few hours.
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Wow what a random combo. I got reading by santos and I been following kapil for a long time. I just came across this and wow it’s amazing. Santos also did a video with krassi who also gave me a reading and so did santos. Great minds
Interesting video. Though it sounded a little harsh on the twelfth house suns. Like, if we have the choice for our babies, then rather let them be born after 8 in the morning. We are all here to gain knowledge and wanting to improve our capacity to handle life's challenges. I would rather let people feel they can handle things, instead of discourage them with a fact they cannot change and all the 'bad' things connected to this. Especially tricky when it comes to beginners in astrology. Nevertheless, I mostly always do like your informative videos.
Sun as a plate, with its planets moves around another point. That movement shifts, and measured using Pole star like Dhurva nakshatra. That shift is the precession or Ayanamsa for a year. This is how "The Start of Aries" is calculated in Vedic Astrology (Sidereal), making it fixed zodiac.
Hello KRS, I know I'm late to the party being that it's now 2019, but this was a brilliant interview with Santos! I have been dabbling in astrology for a few years and this presentation made things much more clear, it was the ah ha moment for me! I have always found Santos to be a genius, even though it may take a little time for the things he says to sink in. Thanks for this presentation! BTW I wanted to add here that had I heard this in 2016 about us living on a flat plane, I would have blown this off to crazy talk, but now after several years of research and my own background in the sciences I look at things in a whole new way, ie not crazy at all!,. LOL, We are living in very interesting times indeed. Great stuff!!! I have also just subscribed, glad to have found you... All the best from Utah. :)
Beautiful! Thank you once again for having Mr.Santos here. I saw the whole thing. I can see how the Flat Earth Theory can be applied to the Ethereal World where the Pineal Gland sees the world as flat and the Kabalistic energies hoover and rule us above. However, on this 4D dimension the Flat Earth Theory would break the laws of physics plus "where does the Sun go at night?" Interesting segment as always, and thank you.
Dang, I was born at 9:28am in the 11th house and I'm an Aries (via Tropical) If my mom would have waited just 32 more mins I'd be Aries in the 10th house. Dang it, mom 😂 Also, I love that Santos is Pisces in Sidereal and Aries in Tropical bc I am too (April 13th) and I've been struggling with which one to follow. His explanation at 56:55 explains it beautifully 🙏❤️
This video is amazing, I have two questions though, the natural astrological pattern seems to only apply to the Temperate zones of the earth, what about those born in the Tropics where Spring is hotter than Summer and it's basically Summer all year round, or those born in the Frigid zones where it's basically Winter all year round? And the second question is what is better to use in tropical astrology in regards to the houses? The equal system or the original system?
Problem with Indian astrologers is that they cannot explain where the sidereal zodiac has its zero point. Therefore there is no correct position of the planets within the zodiac. Thus the validity of the sidereal zodiac is seriously challenged. There are dozens of different ayanamsas, but no system can really say where the zero point is. For sxample, Tina Turner, fiery personality, in tropical zodiac she has Lion rising and Mercury in Sagittarius. What makes sense. In sidereal zodiac she has all planets in element water and earth. So this just doesn't make any sense.
The dude on the right looks like he wants to pass out. Sometimes I fall asleep listening to santos, that way the language of the gods seeps into my subconscious mind
Thanks Santos...u did a great job.Keep it up!I To the other youtubers here,if we can just ask the question of "why" rather than the question of "how come",we all will benefit together.Thanks Kapiel once again.Your channel is one of the very best.
An assumption that it'll all be fine and dandy if we only agree that both zodiacs are correct just does not convince me at all. I know some astrologers find it not that important, I find it quite incoherent (different ayanamsas, general characteristics, etc.) The example about the planet being always in the same house whether it's sidereal or tropic is just plain wrong.
Totally agree with this. I never understand how astrologers say "it doesn't matter, you get the same reading from either zodiac". That's like saying ascendant sign doesn't matter then. Same reading for an Aquarius or Pisces rising? Same reading for someone with lagna lord in 8th conjunct ketu in one zodiac, but then using another they have lagna lord exalted in 10th conjunct 5th lord. Night and Day difference. Plus dasha changes.. someone may be in the main dasha of the most malefic planet for the ascendant in one zodiac, but in another it's a benefic or yogakaraka dasha. ...but 'don't worry, the reading will show the same results' according to astrologers that refuse to just admit there cannot be two correct zodiacs for giving readings!
Precisely! Vedic and Sidereal go together. If you want to use the Tropical system, call yourself what you are! A Western astrologer (which I used to be from age 12 until my introduction to Vedic -- which, by the way, I fought bitterly at first!!) Me to my friend who introduced me to Vedic: "But I'll lose my Exalted Mars in Capricorn...." My friend lowered his head, looked at me sternly, and said, "There is NOTHING "Earth" about you."
@@indeed6471 I fully agree, unfortunately a lot of people don't think it through or are simply not smart enough to realize how illogical this way of thinking is. This is one of the reasons why so many people don't take astrology serious, way too many contradictions and dumb people in astrology who are not critical at all. I whished astrologers would come together and do more serious research, instead of claiming stuff without any real evidence.
@KRSchannel Finding the argument against Copernican view of the world hard to believe. Its so deeply ingrained in us today. Our entire scientific/engineering systems work around this. GPS, How aeroplanes fly, etc.
Imagine - if the Passionate minds of this era, came together to focus upon a list of given points, for just 1 week. What would be the points of collective works and those of challenges - what could we learn from their efforts, and due to their efforts"?"
Not true. According to Tropical, my Moon is in the 6th house, and my Saturn is in the 4th. According to Sidereal, my Moon is in the 7th, and Saturn is in the 3rd. So the houses differ, too.
so basically use either tropical or sidereal depending on where you are on the earth because the sun alway follows the ecliptic that is fixed on the seasons in that region? can you confirm?
Well, I have to disagree on the house systems being the same. I was born 30 mins after the sunrise, in tropical system my sun is in 12th house however, in sidereal it is placed in the first..Thus all the other planets are also in different houses. In Vedic astrology the house system seems to depend on the sign of the ascendent not the beginning of the asc.
Vedic/ tropical astrology doesn't effect the houses, house system is separate from zodiac. Whole sign equal house methods are different but vedic can use either.
I guess I'm not spiritually awakened or whatever but I kind of thought this interview was highly dull. Like idk the previous one was really good but this one just left me all bored. I'm possibly just very ignorant or whatever so sorry if anyone is offended.
His statement that planets would be in the same houses, under both tropical and sidereal systems is factually incorrect. He is quite knowledgeable & I am surprised he missed that point...ofcourse his belief that the earth is flat is just too wacky...
mine changes when I use a vedic chart, but when I searched for sidereal especific chart (yes not vedic) it was exactly the same, all positions were the same escept the signs
In Vedic, my sun is on 2nd house....in Tropical my Sun is in first in every chart I have had,calculated. So the planets have not always been in same place whether you use Sideral or Tropical.
43:30 The guy straight up says mothers should not have their babies born in the 12th house and then brags about his son being born in the 11th house. How do you think that makes the sensitive 12th house people feel?
although Srimad Bhagavat speaks of earth as a flat, in other Veda like Rig-veda and Surya Siddhanta its clearly said that the earth is a globe, the term used is -bhu-gola, earth is like a globe.
Tropical astrology theory works if you only assume there is a northern hemisphere. Does 0 deg Aries begin March 21st though it is Autumnal Equinox below the equator? No
Man!! Western astrology definetly wont work for me because I was born in the southern hemisphere of the earth. And since tropical astrology is based on seasons, it doesnt make sense to half of the world. When spring aries starts in North America {northern hemisphere}, fall libra starts in Argentina or Australia {southern hemisphere}. Our seasons are inverted. How can western astrology be right when it only aplys to the top half of an entire planet. Thats why I cant stand people that talk about western astrology!!! People are so blind!! Damn!!
According to the theory the north of the planet is the head or rahu and the South is ketu the body. Therefore the seasons are calculated from the northern hemisphere. However, I am sure 4000 years ago people didn't know that. They just found this explanation when they found out about the two hemispheres. 😂😂😂
Very good point! Western astrology can't work for people born in the southern hemisphere, I agree. For example, in Chinese astrology (BaZi) one researcher suggested to invert signs 180 degrees to make the chart correct, he suggested this for the sign of the year, the month and the day because Chinese astrology works with elements and seasons, if the month of the Horse is Fire and it is hot (June) in Northern Hemisphere, it can't be Fire in the Southern Hemisphere at the same time - it is cold there so the month of the Rat (Water - December) rules there when Horse rules in NH. So, I would like to know how Zodiac moves in the southern hemisphere. Does it move counter clockwise as it moves in the north, or does it move clockwise? I heard that it moves opposite the way it moves in the northern hemisphere but it is better to ask the professional in astronomy. I am from the Northern Hemisphere myself and I really would like to know how things go&move in the Southern Hemisphere. If the Rising Sign arises (ascend) on the eastern horizon here but does it really arises in the Southern Hemisphere in the same way? Northern Hemisphere and Southern Hemisphere are very different, poles are opposite each other and I guess that from astronomy perspective there are some differences that might exist.
@@anastasiabaksheeva9495 Dear Anastasia, I've read many chart so far with very good precision. This is not only my conclusion but of all of my clients, I live in Southern hemisphere. I don't wish to make the matter more confusing but so far It has worked incredibly with amazing results. It does work on the SH. Astrology depends a lot on the faculties of the astrologer and his knowledge of human nature. I think the truth lies in recognizing the true shape of the earth, what we're being told and what is a lie.
In other words a virtual trueman show.....a curious experiment within a crystal fish bowl.....that never leaks or spills over.....or not oh my god oh my god
The Thelemites are centered around the number 93, which of course is the element Neptunium on the periodic table. This is likely the reason why they state that the Sun is 93million miles away.
This does not make sense to me: he says that the sideral system regards the "higher" bodies (above the astral), while the tropical system is more related to the physical body...how can that be? Sideral system uses the same exact houses as tropical, and the first house for example is related to the physical body... I still can't understand the difference between the two...
He claims that in both systems the Sun is ALWAYS in the same place, but in my case, it is not. My Sun is in a different house and sign.... I am not sure if I believe this guy if he is making false claims about the most basic thing of both systems.
Beautiful talk as far as the tropical zodiac is concerned, but my only objection, Srimad Bhagavatam doesn't support a flat earth theory, nor does the Brahma Samhita or Bhagavad Gita. In fact the cosmology described in Brahma Samhita/Bhagavatam and other Vedic texts are nowhere near being the 'same' as what's presented in Abrahamic texts. Santos is just plain wrong in that regard in his suggestion that the Bhagavatam explicity supports a flat earth theory. The first Canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam in itself introduces all planets as being 'anda' egg or round shaped.
Listen to him carefully...Planets are round shaped 'Anda' only..but all of them are contained inside one shell/ring which has a wall/glass wall...there is nothing like an outer space as per him its all part of that (within this wall) ...nobody has or can penetrate or go outside that glass wall as it cannot be broken
+JagrukBharat Enlightening India hello..i've been studying eastern astrology for years and left the tropical behind.. do you believe in the tropical, too, or is it just plain wrong?
+JagrukBharat Enlightening India hello..i've been studying eastern astrology for years and left the tropical behind.. do you believe in the tropical, too, or is it just plain wrong?
*Wow I am indeed impressed!! I am Libra rising conjunct Rahu (♓🌞), it seems I have been drawn to this for a reason! This clarifies so much, Thank you divine one, Love and Light to you all always, Namaste🙏🌈🦋💘*
@@24worldyungheightz89 Cool energy combination, I am Scorpio rising also (in my tropical/western astrology chart), Sun in Pisces Moon in Virgo, (Vedic constellation accuracy: Libra rising, Pisces Sun, Leo moon in Purva Palguni ) so basically, my degrees are right in between that cusp. the interesting thing is it plays the same aspects in both calculations now that I'm enlightened by the actuality and relevance of both my astrological charts as well as when I compare it to my divine masculine Twin Flame (Sagittarius Sun Aries ascendant)...
@@whitephoenix_oftheecrown7608I see you're working with some powerful placements as well. I'm a sun in Taurus moon in cancer and rising in Sagittarius in my tropical chart but, for some odd reason I relate more to my jyotish chart. I don't see myself as a Taurus at all. My question for you is.. Which one do you prefer to follow for accuracy?
@@24worldyungheightz89 yeah that's interesting isn't it believe me I've been studying this for a while now which is how I discovered my Twin Flame, you will find yours as you share the scorpio rising cusp as well.. this video helped put a lot of ease because I am a true Pisces I tend to drift off in so many realms lol ...tbh i was told it best to focus whats on the ecliptic Versus above it like vedic does (in the stars) because it changes and moves with time , the western focuses on the seasons which never change and the also have other things they follow like the Lilith energy which i find to be accurate in the relevence of it , you should watch the (PeaceDealer) he has a playlist in his channel called the lilith signs or something, i found i had lilith in taurus or taurus in the 8th house but taurus is in my 7th house in my western chart which means i have gemini in the 8th house but i feel all in all its all the same thing because on the flip side its reflecting your chart in same meanings like this video was talking about and what Santos Bonacci was bringing awareness to the concepts we need to see..
wow i wrote alot more than that and i honestly don't feel like typing it all again lol but basically I'm saying that whichever one you feel more relevance to that is the more accurate for you because only you know yourself the best and whatever energies you resonate with the most, I, however, feel like both my charts work coincidentally together because i am awakened to how it all plays in everything about me and my life situations, i basically see it has my Vedic chart is what accurately backs up my western/tropical chart if you look at the degrees and cusps so you can see how your different from other people with similar placements by counting the degrees of those energy placements/ zodiac signs..
If we live on a flat and motionless plane where the stars and wandering stars circle around us every year in a designed pattern (f.e. the lotus flower pattern from venus) we can start to better understand the power of astrology and energy. When we observe that polaris (or the north star) has not moved in thousands of years, it contradicts the illusion of us being on a flying spaceball. When you are open to astrology please consider researching geocentrism, wich shows the true power and knowledge of astrology. If you want to know the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration - quote Nikolas Tesla
Thank you so much, so much for this. Truly an eye opener for me; a budding astrologer in search for clarity and direction on what to start focus first.
Sure but in Aries it is still spring in the northern hemisphere and autumn in the southern hemisphere, and therefore the qualities of the condition behind Aries differ between northern and southern.
Please have him back😍😘😄 Im sorry it might sound childish i remember watching sailor moon and what he describe its the same even cartoons talk about planets.
The world is "flat" from the perspective of demigods and mystical beings, a higher level of consciousness and plane of existence where multiple dimensions of being are present. From the perspective of human consciousness, the world is a globe because our consciousness is limited. Our little peace of reality is folded into itself like a globe and parameters are placed upon where we can go and what we can experience. We are experiencing a small peace of reality.
How can such a knowledgeable man believe and defend such nonsense as a flat Earth...?! So sad. That simply does not resonates with the fabric of creation and the fractal quality contained within everything that exists... outward or inwards. Universe itself is the greatest of all mysteries, let´s just be humble recognizing that we don´t have all the answers. Please, and above all, let´s just not go backwards again and loose what we have so hardly achieved, God knows at what price.
I only see one perspective on This. But I honestly went from tropical to sidereal. It really is more spiritual. And Am Still learning. Elements, Houses, what the planets effect Us. Us. Tropical ♊️ Sidereal ♉️ But I do consider myself Taurus. With different Qualities. ☀️ ♉️ 🌖 ♍️ ⬆️ ♏️
So happy for your team ups! Bonnacci totally awakened me 5 years ago watchn his videos and your videos I prefer among astrology so tp have both of you humble funny guys sharing ur knowledge is so appreciative ty and bless both of you
Towards the end of his lecture I realize that that is a man with an agenda up to the point when he spoke of Uranus overlooking all the stars and anything after that is completely bogus