Go to DrinkLMNT.com/WhatIveLearned to get a free sampler pack with any purchase! I noticed a couple comments already from people who tried a vegan diet for several years but had to quit. Feel free to comment your story here if you have one! Edit: Some people on the internet accused me of lying about B12. See this post for my response: josepheverettwil.substack.com/p/was-i-wrong-about-vegans-and-b12
You have put unnecessary time for crooked teeth in this video, the question is not of refined foods, its about veganism, you still need to chew vegan foods, many times more than you would chew meat . You also didn't link your sources, it is possible that the paper funding has conflict of interest with the research.
I think this is all very controversial. Missing sources is a huge mistake in my opinion. Anyone that wants to be educated by this has no option but to take your word for what you're saying. Please post your sources
There was once a study done where children were allowed to choose whatever they wanted from a rather broad diet. They found unusual combinations like liver and orange juice for breakfast, and one child began to drink cod liver oil as a beverage. When they evaluated the actual nutrient value of what the children were eating, they discovered that the children were seeking foods that provided the exact nutrients they needed, and appeared to find the right foods mostly by taste. Unfortunately, this probably wouldn't work now. The study was done in the 1930's, before the rise of synthetic flavorings allowed us to make anything taste like anything.
This was absolutely how I ate in college. I would buy a lot of whole foods (lots of different nuts, vegetables, fruits, grains, beans, and proteins like yogurt and eggs) and for every meal I would look around at my options and pick whatever called to me and eat them together. Almost nothing I ate even remotely resembled dishes that had names, and when something did I was surprised and would laugh about it. We're talking about eclectic mixtures of vegetables served with peanut + sunflower butter and yogurt and a side of blackberries. Apples boiled in a soup with rockfish, carrots, and sweet potatoes. I normally didn't add additional flavors or sauces -- just ate them as they were. They became surprisingly tasty and was in the best health of my life, I'd say. It's a matter of buying things that haven't yet been processed or changed with additives. Something I miss dearly were the peanut and almond grinding machines that were common in grocery stores back home -- processed peanut butter and fresh ground plain peanuts are literally different foods and their tastiness is night and day. Frozen vegetables are my favorite because they're just regular vegetables that have been preserved in the best way for nutrition. Rice, oats, nuts, and beans can be purchased for cheap without additives. Whole fruits and eggs also don't have additives. The most processed thing I'd eat was plain full-fat greek yogurt, but fermented foods are a type of processing that improves nutrition, so yogurt, kimchee, sauerkraut, and kefir have health benefits and shouldn't be loaded with sugar. Meats, especially organ meats, are healthy in moderation and can be easily bought without breading or added sugar (I was eating beef liver for a bit when I was really putting in extra miles every day -- just didn't question what I was craving at that point lol) I'm working on going back to this diet because I've gotten spoiled with a more "normal" lifestyle (now that I can afford it) and social eating is part of my life now, but my health isn't as great. (I have an autoimmune disease so it makes a difference how healthy I am -- my quality of life improves dramatically the better shape I'm in.)
@@Mapleboi404 I'm not American. From the UK, left at 39 and spent the last 18 years travelling Asia. And yeah, you have to coax kids to eat vegetables. You don't need to coax them to eat burgers or sausages.
Is it like when sometimes i might get a craving for olives or pineapple out of the blue, suddenly i want a can of sardines and then fried mushrooms. Curious
You can do a video on just margarine alone as an example of the power of marketing. Because they really had us thinking a solid chemical oil dyed yellow was healthy
Ok, just so you know, something being oxidised doesn't mean that you now need an anti-oxidant. Oxidation is one-half of what we chemists call a Redox reaction - that's a reduction-oxidation reaction. As 'x' is oxidised, 'y' is reduced. An anti-oxidant would prevent the redox reaction from taking place at all and NOT- as you suggested- be used as a sort of 'morning after pill' for random oxidation happening without a corresponding reduction. I hope that makes sense. If not, please read up on "Redox Reactions," to give you an ACCURATE understanding of oxidation, as opposed to the use of "Oxidation" as a buzzword.
"of what we chemists call a Redox reaction" so if someone is biologist how he calls it by different name? if someone is mechanic he calls it with another name? its only you chemists who call it that?
I read up about using animal fat as moisturizer. An article actually said that although humans have used animal fat as moisturizers for thousands of years, it's safety hasn't been tested 😂 So I bought some.
As someone born with only 22 teeth and more than half being milk teeth which will eventually have to be replaced with implants - I implore you. Do everything you can to keep your teeth. Cut out sugar, not meat.
@@trentgrigsby333 dude this isn't being skeptical this is literally how you should think immediately about most scientific data online. there's plenty of research and findings out there solely funded to benefit a corporation or group of corporation's profits. ever watched kurzgesagt?
I just want to say that : nutrition science is a very approximate science . Their claims change constantly. It's because it is incredibly difficult to observe, analyse and understand the countless interactions in between dozens of organs and thousands of compounds: and their cross interactions etc I take everything they say with a grain of salt or two, but not three
If you really study the developmement of nutritioin "science", you'll finnd they just copy from one another since the 1930'ies. They also ignore real studies done by scientists of medicne, except when they fit their own dogmas.
Later on in the video where you're talking about the Plains Indian's height and pemmican, it's of interest to note some of the accounts of the franciscans that accompanied Spanish explorers 500 years ago. One Franciscan most famous for recording the people and events in the Southwest wrote about the Pima Indians. In one chronicle, he describes a seven-foot-tall Pima Indian warrior running the same speed as a bison, while taking it down with his bow and arrow. He describes the Pimas of that era in glorious terms. Today, the Pimas outside Tucson, Arizona are the fattest, most diabetic people in the entire world. Their diet consists of US surplus: canned and boxed foods + sodas and fruit juice.
@@DarkKnight-db1dy Yes, he was measured. BTY, at that time in world history, it was estimated that the Pima Indians were the tallest race in the world. Of course, not the whole world was known in that era!
@@higherresolution4490 Estimated by who? Pima weren't even the tallest Indians, let alone the tallest in the world. I have searched the internet and nowhere it mentions that they were the tallest. If you have any source to back your claims up, you can present it. I will be more than happy to add that info to my knowledge.
@@DarkKnight-db1dy it was the Plains Indians that were regarded as the tallest. Do a search for "Standing Tall: Plains Indians Enjoyed Height, Health Advantage"
Regarding the milk for babies...my sister was allergic to cow's milk and couldnt keep it down as a baby, so the doctors had her drink goat's milk. It worked.
@@avivastudios2311 Read what I wrote. I said she was allergic to cows milk. **edit: She would projectile vomit every time she had some, so going to goats milk, had less fat, or whatever it was... maybe lactase? that she was sensitive to.
Well, my wife and I are recent parents and before my wife was pregnant she used to eat a very restricted diet given digestion problems of her. Once she got pregnant most of her digestion problems went away and she started to eat a lot like me, with lots of red meat, home made bread (I bake it myself), dairy products, green leafs and vegetables, almost no suggar drinks and instead plain water or fruits blended into water. And our son was born with perfect weight and is being breast feeded along with some formula, but mostly breast milk, and recently incorporating solids, and he is very large for his age, most people saying he is the size of a two years old when he is only 7 months old. Funny thing is that according to all weight and size charts he is pretty much where he should be for his age, so that makes me thing that a lot of kids are undernourished or even malnourished without people noticing it.
The WHO's growth charts are much higher than what my pediatrician uses. My son is at 50% according to WHO but 80% according to our doctor's charts. He is a chunky boy, eats all the time and has 6-8 poops a day at 12 weeks.
It should be noted that bone strength and milk have a long complicated history that to say the least, milk doesn't directly correlate with increased bone strength and growth
@@cozypadd Nah, there is a clear difference between health effects of just full fat and skimmed milk, and homogenized and non, and pasteurized and non (though there are some health concerns with the former too)
@@defeqel6537 there are health concerns with all of them. Plus any dairy product. If you just look at a world map showing amount of dairy consumption and compare that to a world map showing osteoporosis rates, you'll see that they are basically identical. Worldwide: the more dairy people in a country consume, the higher their rate to suffer from bone loss. Granted, that's not a study that shows causation. But the correlation is strong.
Interesting that in some videos, you really don't like non interventional studies. But then, in others, you're totally fine with data that was generated in non controlled environments.
@Joardam American Indeed. It seems the what he will use to support his inferences are a matter of convenience. There's no level to them. All of his inferences are treated in the same way. But when it comes to an opposite view, suddenly those tools are flawed and shouldn't be trusted.
It was mentioned in he comments but i also have read that doing sports during childhood and teenagehood and chewing harder foods as our faces grow and specially as food is introduced after 6months of age really has an effect on the size and shape of your jaw. My brother is the only sporty on in our family and his jaw is massive and has natural straight teeth. He even had space for all his wisdom teeth, which is something rare amongst all the people i know in their 30s and 20s now.
Same here, I ate a lot of tough to chew food, like homemade breads with thick crusts (not that soft squishy garbage at the grocery store), lots of apples or fruits you really had to bite into, lots of meats with varying degrees of quality (some you just had to keep chewing, yeah not the best stuff to eat but I do think it helped to shape my teeth and jaw, we didn't always have money to get better quality meats), and more. All of my teeth came in perfectly straight, and I've had no problems with my wisdom teeth crowding or other issues. I never needed braces, meanwhile everyone in my school had to get them. Chewing tough foods or foods with roughage definitely helps develop the way your teeth will be set and how strong your jaw/jaw line is. My dentist is always so surprised at how healthy my teeth are. I've only ever had one tiny cavity that was so small they didn't even need to give me novacaine. They drilled for 5 seconds max (yes it still hurt) but then it was done!
... ok to help you sleep better, like, they say that this study had been done over 3 generations, right? So I choose to believe that healthy cat lived a happy & healthy life, and the skull was examined after it died of natural causes.
During the 'health craze' of the 1970s, I was shopping for groceries with my dad and we came across a spread that touted it had 30% less of something than margarine. I pointed this out, we looked at each other, and decided that we weren't going to eat a substitute for a substitute. It was butter or nothing after that.
There are enough studies out there that you can cherry pick from to form any opinion you want nowdays. Know that vegan diets are not based on the needs of a human body, but is based on the morals of animal treatment and co2 emissions. Which doesn't seem very convincing, at least to me.
One really fascinating thing about most herbivores is how often they will eat meat when they don't get enough of something in their diet. Theres actually was less obligate herbivores than there are herbivores that need to eat meat on occasion. Can't keep poultry with most other farm animals because of it (even with each other sometimes...)
@@catpoke9557poultry last I checked are omnivore..... Been raising chickens for a decade never seen a chicken just eat grains , veg, and fruit.... Did you even Google before you typed. Nope people never do.
@@catpoke9557 They are referring to the ruminants occasionally eating the poultry. Something I'd never heard before until I saw a video of the cow sucking up baby chicks.
Is there any way we could get links to the studies? I know you mentioned a bunch and it may be tough, but some nerds like me appreciate it. Especially when sharing with others.
@@hexicdragon3094 My lectures would have probably failed me for sourcing like this. Quite a few of them are on rats when he's talking about humans and don't investigate or concluded his talking points. It gives the impression the studies weren't read, because I only read the abstracts and conclusions and you can see they don't match. I honestly suspect the studies were pulled from ChatGPT as it's about what you'd expect without specifying particular journals or litrature catagories.
There also was a study on kids in Africa, all the same gene pool and a marginal base diet. Supplementation was done with carbs, fats, and proteins (same calorie value). Kids supplemented with carbs and fat had a 3 point increase in IQ. Kids supplemented with protein had 10 point increase in IQ.
Not sure about that. For animals, fats are the most valuable, sought out, and scarce nutrient n nature, compared to proteins, carbs, and sugars because it is the preffered fuel source for our brains, which can't function properly without it. When people fast (run out of food) they use all the sugar in the blood from their last meal, then switch to burning our stored fat through ketosis and you can definitely feel the difference. When foods are scarce and we need more, rather than get weak, slow, and tired, well become more awake, alert, and aware after switching to burning ketones, because evolution made us store enegy for later, when we needed to hunt, gather, and obtain more energy. This only adds to the.mystery of how our brains developed to its current size and complexity because brains require so many fats just to function properly, not to mention growing and evolving into what we see today..
@@MrArtdelgado210 This had to do with quality of brain function, not just energy balance. I read the study; it was long-term and well-designed. (Also, my background is biochemistry, so I understood it.)
@@Reziac I've always been interested in the role of animal protein --- including red meat -- in measuring IQ. GRANTED, IQ tests (Stanford-Binet, etc.) are wildly Eurocentric and reward answers which reflect fluency in mainstream, rather privileged European-American, i.e. "white," society. 50 years ago, it seemed that Northern Europeans were "smarter" than other ppl. Otherwise, how did a tiny island-- England-- come to rule the known world for 4 centuries? Germany also got high marks. But now...China and Japan basically beat the pants off everyone else for academic performance, and India, in spite of crushing poverty, produces sterling achievement and accomplishment in technical fields, medicine, academia, etc. Diets in Asia vary wildly and include stuff that WASP Americans would never eat. So IQ MUST be more than food choices.
@@Reziac seems like a strange study to perform, was there any way to justify the findings as a contributing factor to their IQ, did they all live the exact same experiences every day? Does a 3 point increase from an IQ of 110 equate to a 10 point increase from from an IQ of 100?
my mother used to be a movement scientist and my father proffesional athlete. they knew alot about proper and healthy food. ive been eating a very healthy and natural diet. my little brothers were born 10 years later now we eat a nearly vegatarian diet im intrested to see what will happen in another 10 years or so.
Since vegetarians are OK with vitamin B12-containing animal products such as egg yolks and milk, you should be fine I am guessing. The risk really comes with being vegan and cutting those things out because vitamin B12 is NOT found in plants.
@@quartqwertbudisgood Hate to break it to you, but you may not notice any problems until it's been around 12 years. BECAUSE... vitamin B12 is NOT found in plants. AND the liver can store a LOT of vitamin B12... including stock a fetus's liver during the mother's pregnancy, so... yeah it may be a while. But if you are vegan I DEFINITELY hope you are taking B12 supplements... if so, you may be fine.
@@cau_luigi Indeed it's not a big deal IF they know enough to take B12 supplements... but I've unfortunately met a lot who tell me they don't even know what vitamin B12 is (and I even met one who said their DOCTOR didn't even mention it to them, at the same time as being aware their patient was vegan). So yeah... things happen (or not) depending on the person lol.
Dawg that teeth thing comes (in the very least partly) from traditional cultures chewing all the time, which strengthens their jaw and tongue so as to facilitate correct tongue posture and thus beneficiary facial bone structure development
Funnily enough, my teeth are a bit crooked because of braces. My mom decided to start orthodontic care when I was 9. My palate was set too narrow and now I have crowding. Don't get braces until you're fully grown kids!
@@UsoundsGermanyvery true. Kids vision doesn't fully develop until age 4-6 on average. When we see a 3 year old with glasses, someone is getting scammed 90% of the time. Also messes up their vision for life, when they may have never needed glasses in the first place, just patience.
I've been a vegetarian my whole life and I'm perfectly healthy. Love cheese and cooking with my pet chickens eggs too much to go vegan! Also, Vegetarians seem a lot more level-headed than vegans. I went vegan for a summer with my step mom once but had to go back to vegetarianism after feighnting when I came back home. It's a lot more hard to be vegan!
The month I tried a vegan diet my body felt incredibly weak every single day, even though I did research all the nutrients I'd require and tried combining certain foods to get everything I need, made sure I got enough calories, used supplements too.. But nothing seemed to work, so I decided I shouldn't continue like this and became vegetarian again. Everything went back to normal.
The month I tried a vegetarian diet my body felt incredibly weak every single day, even though I did research all the nutrients I'd require and tried combining certain foods to get everything I need, made sure I got enough calories, used supplements too.. But nothing seemed to work, so I decided I shouldn't continue like this and became vegan again. Everything went back to normal.@@C4rol5791
I've been vegan for years and would never look back. Veganism is better than just fine if you eat fruit and veg as near as they were formed in Eden as possible before we were thrown out of the garden, as legend has it. No processed / junk-vegan, expensive faux meats or vegan cheeses, etc. You need to supplement with 2000 micrograms of B12 but only once a week, that's all, as it's stored by the liver, the animals some of you eat wouldn't have much B12 if their feed wasn't supplemented. Chemical agriculture has destroyed all the soil bacteria that used to provide B12 for carnivores, omnivores, vegetarians, and vegans alike. A tablespoon of freshly ground flaxseeds and/ or a small handful of walnuts as your only oily or fatty foods per day keeps up your omega 3 and vision / mental processes clear. Vegan D2 powdered mushroom supplement once a day keeps us pasty city types healthy. Eating all your calories early in the day ( before 2pm) and then fasting until the next day along with enjoying clove and peppermint tea stops any feelings of bloating. Fiber is not your enemy, it is your best friend and it's especially friendly to your gut bacteria, you will have a big poo once a day, it's over very fast, it's comfortable, and you won't be trapped, fighting that tuff turd for hours whilst painfully trying to finish reading War and Peace. Not too much faff really when balanced against all the pain, suffering, zoonotic pandemic diseases, and early death (of humans and of other animals) that commercial farming creates.
@@zyrover i m just curious abt how ur carnivore diet looks like , sorry if u r feeling uncomfortable bcz of me , but could u share ur diet , not like detailed just what u generallly eat in breakfast lunch dinner , that would be appreciated
Well, given my genetics and my diet as a child I probably would never have needed braces, had I not smashed all of my frontal baby teeth out of my mouth in a brutal bike crash at the age of 5. Luckily I was not part of the control group 😄
I got all my baby teeth literally kicked out of my mouth when I was 5 bc my sister pushed me into a 16 year old boys roundhouse kick 🙃 but I have always had perfect teeth , never needed braces . My entire family’s teeth were / are JaCkeD .. most chose braces. No clue how I got so lucky with my teeth . My sister and I also suffered neglect and malnutrition for a number of years as small children. I’m very short my sister is very tall . You never know how kids will turn out .
Amazing, I never met anyone else who had my misfortune, and here I suddenly encounter multiple! I lost mine 3 weeks before my 5th birthday in gym class. A girl didn't feel like following the line that we were all taking, and ran straight up to me as I went for a trampoline dive roll exercise from the side. As I was focused on the jump, I didn't see her approach. Once in the air, I couldn't avoid her and smashed my face into her skull. 4 baby teeth ripped out the bone without breaking, leaving 4 bites out of the bone that took 3 years to fill up and form new teeth... (and at 14, I hit a car with my bike and broke the rear light reflectors to bits with my face. Once again I had lost my front teeth, not the baby ones this time... Screwed for life with expensive dentist visits... Even required a bone transplant at one point.)
i tried vegan for 20 days and i had increase of candida like no tomorrow i was really invadaded , so i became keto for 3 months, and then i addes little carbs and the reality is the vegan for me made me feel seek and quit and keto or carnivore, made me feel healthy and still not quiting
Why correlation does not equal causation? and why is using correlation instead of causation is a manipulation of data? you take two facts that seem to happen at the same time and then you draw mistaken conclusions. for example: 1. people in Netherlands drink milk a lot 2. people in Netherlands are very tall. this is correlation not causation. It does not immediately mean that they are tall because of milk. proving evidence for causation: Netherland = #3 in milk/capita and #3 for height worldwide disproving evidence for causation: Bosnia & Herzegovina - #41 milk/capita and #2 height worldwide also disproving: Serbia - #55 milk/capita and #5 height worldwide cherry-picking countries as a claim for benefits of milk for height is not science. BTW, tallest people in the world on average are from Europe. There is a higher likelihood of the cause being genetic rather than diet based. Don't fall into fake news...
Hey, this video seems to overlook the impact of volatile organic compounds and particulates from synthetic substances on our health over time. You can't just apply broad study results to individual diets or lifestyles. There's a whole mix of factors involved here
I’m a vegan/vegetarian since 1983. I’ve a Degree in Biology & Nutritive Sciences UIC, ‘83 + RD. Transitioned from 2MaD to 1MaD. Never have had a cavity my entyre life…although I do have a supposed “genetic” predisposition to periodontal disease. Although I absolutely am abhorrent to the idea of killing a sentient being in order to bury it in your stomach to “survive“? I’m convinced that the Bovine Is 1000% ideally suited for a well founded & healthy human diet (unfortunately). Thought Question? Where do the Animals that provide Vitamine B-12 Get THEIR B-12 from since most all animals consumed by humans are vegetarian Animals. (My Theory is that Vitamine B-12 is produced through Bacteria Action in the Throat while one sleeps & absorbed via the illeo-cecum)
Glad I found your comment. I'm getting really tired of people who don't want to look into the arguments vegans have (ethical + climate + nutrients) but keep trying to find anything that will fit their agenda because they feel "endangered" by the idea of not eating dead animals. I used to try to convince people that no, meat is environmentally absolutely terrible; no, eating X and not eating Y because you just walked Y isn't logical; no, eating supplements is a thing anyone can (and mostly should) do. But it's no use. If you eat meat these days although you keep mentioning how cute doggies and cats are + reading/watching 'educational' content, then you simply want to eat meat. That's all. You're choosing to be ignorant/immoral/whatever.
Dont forget that most Animals get Supplements too, so if you just need Vitamin D for example, the animals got the same supplements you would need to take
Fun fact, kinda unrelated but when i got to the video talking about increasing people with peanut allergies, as a baby I also had not only a peanut allergy but a shellfish one as well, not sure if this is just an asian thing but my parents would feed me miniscule amounts of peanuts or peanut products and shellfish everyday for 2-3 years with increasing amounts every year until at some point I had no allergic reaction at all, happy to say at 22 im enjoying pb and j and the occasional sea foods (although the pb and j might just be the only thing i can afford during school currently) A caveat is that (with no scientific research, just my parents experience) you do this only when you're young, i know friends now that if they even so much as catch a whiff of peanut essence they'll go into anaphalatic shock
I also had allergy with beef (itchy swollen skin) when I was a kid. Then at 16 when I migrated to the US, I started eating beef every day as the beef here is so soft and juicy. After 3 years, I no longer had beef allergy.
This is called desensitization and is what allergists do when you go for allergy treatment/shots. I don’t know if there is an exception for peanut allergies but for most other allergies desensitization can be done at any time- with the caveat that a young, developing immune system may be more resilient and apt to be correctly trained/changed and if an allergic response is too severe the technique may be too dangerous and not have a chance to work as the immune system is way too hypersensitive. I suspect this is what you are referring to.
It's also common for creating children with lactose intolerance. In my country there were no lactose intolerant people when they were using raw milk (which is boiled before consumption). Milk powder and pasteurized milk basically created lactose intolerant kids. Thankfully most doctors here now immediately tell new mothers to feed their kids mothers milk then raw milk which has reduced the lactose intolerant kids. Best advice I can give anyone is stay away from modern western diets and highly processed foods they are cancerous to your health.
I'm Asian too and I have one of the most common Asian allergies - lactose intolerance. I've never been able to drink fresh milk or consume drinks that were mixed with fresh milk all throughout my childhood. But all that changed when I was in college and started lifting weights, during which I started consuming whey protein. Initially I had bloating, diarrhea, etc... the typical discomfort associated with lactose intolerance. Fast forward years later, I ended up being able to chug whey shakes all day long and consume fresh milk products without issues. It's been over 20 years since I first started taking whey protein for workouts and I'm glad I've overcome my allergy by ramming head-on against it.
that baby deficiency is terribly heart breaking :( if anything people should be warned about the reality of harming not just you but your child if they plan on ever becoming a parent
We are not Vegans nor Carnivores. We are Omnivores. Our Canine and Molars teeth prove that we are Omnivores. Today I had Texas Barbecue Baked Potato, Blooming Onion, Potato Salad, Cole Slaw, Jalapeños, Sweet Tea and Pecan Pie for dessert …and I was thinking wow I could have had one of those “delicious” (boring , no taste) Carnivore or Vegan meal today instead…😂😂😂
@@Shamanniac1 exactly lol 😂 they just go vegan to get famous because it’s a trending topics. But the real vegans don’t give up. I have many vegans in my family and also vegan friends that have been vegans for many years and they are all in perfect health and doing great 😊
@@juanma9511 meat from the supermarkets is poison, if u don’t have access to grass fed beef and chicken and wild fish, u are just slowly killing your self
Not at all but we're getting there. I gave up all the junk food and sugars thirty years ago. Carnivores don't have anything like the tooth problems that the rest do because it's sugar that causes tooth decay.
I don't think the discussion about vegan or not should even be discussed. But make it more dependent on age; as a child grows, it needs a lot more, which is not possible vegan. But as you grow and get older, the more you can eat a vegan diet. You also often see this in the animal kingdom.
As a bodybuilding enthusiast I can tell you that creatine is 100% necessary for optimal health. It boosts performance, keeps more water in your muscles allowing for better hydration and helps improve body composition. Yes it's only by 3-5%, but imagine losing 20+ different substances and now you're suddenly stacking up all kinds of issues
Dear Joseph, I really appreciate your effort and love all your videos. For me as an academic, the most important aspect about claiming something is to have evidence. You do it already, but not for every Video where you claim something scientific. I would appreciate it, if you put the source of these articles/ Videos/ pictures you use. Thanks a lot!
@@LorcaLoca sTop eating a vegan diet already, i sense that your feelings are hurt. WE are evolutionary bioglogicaly envolped to eat meat and some low oxidative veggies. You better read some real studies my boy, i bet you watch cnn and trust everything they spew (missinformation) (propaganda) for their masters aka the food and pharma coperations.
All that you have to do for this video is to screen shot a picture and look up the article yourself. This comment just sounds like you're lazy when he does provide evidence in this video.
Bro traditional diets prized animal food because it was hard to get, they ate way more vegetables and fibre than any modern Westerner,on a daily basis, meat was not something people ate tons of everyday, meat feasts were occasional and meant for celebrations
Not true, if you actually watched this video he gave clear examples of indigenous people hunting and fishing and when there was left-over meat and fish it was dried and preserved as meat or fish pemmican with dried berries for example, to allow access to important nutritious food staples daily, for survival.
@@tigerspiritjourney the reason meat was dried and preserved is because larger animals would provide a huge amount of meat, no tribe could eat 300 pounds of meat. I would assume it was also something different to eat
@@JakeWestbrook13 humans have been selectively breeding foods for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years, no reason to not eat them, we just bred things to be tastier
Because we have compelling evidence that animals have a will and are sentient, while we have no compelling evidence that plants have a will and are sentient
All the "healthy" vegans I know MUST SUPPLEMENT. I did the diet for two years. You're eventually gonna need choline, creatine and CARNOSINE supplementation. Maybe you might not need it, but if you want your full strength you will DEFINITELY need it (I do heavy weight CrossFit)
@@SirPraiseSun it can take years to develop deleterious affects... Most nephrologists will tell you people are prediabetic for years even DECADES before full blown diabetes sets in and then years of THAT before kidney failure kicks in and dialysis is needed.. I know because I've had plenty of family succumb to diabetic complications sadly.. I think Atrocitas is delaying things with synthetic supplements... If he didn't take those things... His health would decline 🤔
5 years is usually inside the period where you are living off your liver's nutrient reserves while thinking you are obtaining all you need from food+supps.
@@OccidentalAryan because they arent doing their research and properly consuming what they need/ not absorbing all their food due to not chewing their food.
@@OccidentalAryan it's not luck it's nature taking back it's route of course not all of us are gonna have it smoothly after generations of carnivorous behavior
@@OccidentalAryan I've never read such nonsense before. In some countries, people have never eaten or even seen prepared meat because their culture doesn't allow it, or it's simply too expensive and there are no animals to slaughter.
Breastfeeding is the natural food for infants. That's why you need to introduce whole cow's milk when you wean off - thanks for the explanation. It makes all the sense now. Wait.
3:15 this doesn't make sense! If the effect was happening so fast with kids (not evolutionary/genetic) then why we are not seeing it in today's vegans who are truly vegans for many years?!
I have to argue that hunter-gatherers actually had different 'contemporary' diseases - cancer among them. Source: I recently watched a lecture on diseases in our ancestors.
I don't think (think, not know by any means. Just stuff i conclude from hearing stuff somewhere) that they loved long enough to really suffer from cancer and once they got cancer they were already old (30s) and at the end of their lifespan anyways and didn't survive very long once they had cancer. But there's probably no way to know if a skeleton had cancer for a few months and died because of that..
And they didn't live long enough to even develop heart attacks. They probably wouldn't, but it just shows how careful you need to be taking in information.
@@martinepeters9891 the thing with heart attacks is that this only develops if the body is constantly flooded with food. If your blood constantly contains fat and sugar, your arteries will eventually get clogged. Back then you didn't eat three times a day, that's a rather modern thing that came with corporations trying to sell you breakfast If you stop eating for 24-72 hours from time to time, because there's no food, your body has the ability to clean itself up
@MqKosmos yes, absolutely so! I read reports of how in the beginning of the war, people's health (like their gums) got better. Before of course leaving them drop dead after 4 years of not enough food and vitamins. I was just mentioning this as we often see claims like 'humans are all carnivores', because of the hunter gatherers. But they fail to mention all of the things that put things into a more omnivores perspective. Same with the vegans on the other side with their 'evidence'. Carnivores always come with 'their' hunter gatherers while conveniently leaving out that those people didn't have any beef and butter. They didn't have dairy until they started to keep livestock. Carnivores come up with their Inuit and Masaai (kinda barren there past few hundred years) while vegans refer to native tribes living in the tropics.
@@martinepeters9891 you are brainswashed by msm, you prolly one of thoose who took the clotshot. They lived in the wild so lions, tigers, deadly snakes, no modern healthcare etc. There is no science that says beef cause cancer. Serveral tribes has lived disease free to over 100 only eating meat. Meat is the key to prevent diabetes and other modern diesases. Read the real science and stop trusting cnn that pays them 70% of their budget.
The way you're saying it makes it seem like meat is the best thing ever. The truth is that we're eating meat way too often. Our digestive system didn't evolve around eating meat every day. Maybe veganism takes it a step too far but we should atleast reduce our meat and dairy consumption to live the most healthy we can be.
I'm a meat eater but there seems to be a lot of anecdotal evidence (influencer/celebrity interviews) and cherry-picked scientific studies (one study finds yada-yada MIGHT be true) used to illustrate the point. There might be some truth here and there but a lot of this seems to be conjecture
I completely agree! This guy should not scare people away from eating plants. It's reckless. I am a nurse and sick of seeing all the illness, most are preventable. The hospitals are not filled with vegetarians and vegans.
same here bro but we can't blame them they just didn't know any better...it's the mainstream diet recommendations nowadays that is the real culprit and the vegan propaganda...only thing we can do is look after our health right now and for the rest of our lives and do better for our kids
@the darkknight exactly - my mum is a vegetarian and was a vegetarian while giving birth to me and all my brothers - were were all premature and underweight
@@zacwayman9473 my mum is a huge meat eater and ate lots of animal products whilst pregnant with us. We were all born premature and slightly underweight. See how anecdotes work?
@@uselessgarbagehandler I know, but we were all born with asthma - fortunately mine and one of my bros had gone wherwother the other bro had horrible asthma and was put on steroids so he could breathe as a baby- not sure if there's a link though probably not
@@uselessgarbagehandler Yes and both could be caused by the replacement of saturated fats with polyunsaturated fats. And which diet really leans into having more seed oils or unsaturated fats? Oh right the vegetarian diet.
I feel that this is one of the most dishonest videos I've seen in a long while. I'm afraid that you resort to cherry picking studies, taking findings from those studies out of context and then asserting claims that aren't actually what the studies themselves were getting at. You also rely on a lot of anectodal evidence. It seems to me that you are using any excuse you can to justify eating animals and their products. A well planned vegan diet can be perfectly healthy, and most importantly of all, it doesn't involve the intentional mass killing of animals. I am unlikely to persuade you but I hope that some of the people reading my comment consider mine and other vegan perspectives in this video.
100% agreed. This video is trying really hard to seem evidence based but ultimately it's just not enough and it's using cherry picked studies to propel unsubstantiated ideas that can be very dangerous.
show facts not opinions and some people could change their mind. "cherry picking" is not an argument, and you still doesnt show what articles he taked out of context and how that context taken away would change the argument
The quality of meat even 20 years ago was totally different from what we can buy today. Full of antibiotics, fed with crap food, thats why I will not eat meat again.
Regarding the jaw development, you missed a very important aspect. People need to use their teeth to chew tough foods to develop their jaws properly. So one of the big issues with processed food us that it is so soft.
My grandparents used to make me chew on breadcrust and other tough stuff as a kid, because they said that's how my teeth will get strong. I always though it was cute but more or less a baseless superstition, but it turns out they were probably completely right.
I'm really surprised that while talking about narrowing palettes and the problems with teeth, you didn't mention that eating processed foods eliminates the chewing required for traditional unprocessed foods. Chewing is really important for proper facial development and nasal breathing, which can alleviate sleep apnea.
As for the cat study investigating raw meat vs cooked meat, it was eventually found that the cooking method reduced the taurine content in the meat, which was the cause of the observed health effects on the deformed cats. Nowadays either the taurine is added back to the meat as with commercial cat food, or it is cooked in a way where taurine doesn't leach out (taurine isn't destroyed by heat, but it is water soluble). Grilling or baking meat may preserve the taurine content versus boiling.
There's a reason they're called "supplements" and not "replacements". It really is astounding that humans can eat so many varied foods compared to other organisms.
No need to supplement if you are already eating the right foods in the first place. That Fruits & Veggies quack won't get a dime from me. And I don't need to shoot up with Ozempic either.
There is also a connection between issues with the dental arch, crooked teeth and having not been breastfed. Breastfeeding uses many more muscles in the mouth, jaw and face than bottle feeding. Breastfeeding appears to help the mouth, jaw and face develop properly. In many studies bottle feeding was correlated with issues with the development dental arch, crooked teeth, etc. So in addition to highly processed food for older children and adults causing serious issues, highly processed food and "highly processed" feeding methods (using an easy to suck latex or silicone bottle nipple rather than a difficult, muscle developing breast to milk nutrients from) for infants may contribute to mouth and facial development. (Yes, I am well aware *some women can't breastfeed* I'm an IBCLC (lactation consultant) but just because some aren't doing or can't do something doesn't mean that something isn't still the the most healthy thing.)
Do you think it would be better to feed a baby with a silicon breast type device with a valve type nipple compared to a bottle ? Do such devices exist do you know ?
So true. I have a normal jaw. Never needed braces, all my teeth are straight and strong. Same for my sibling. We were breast fed to at least 2yrs. Food was always home cooked indian traditional food (not what you buy in restaurants- thats unhealthy junk)..ate, Fish, Meat , Eggs, vegetables and rice. No sweets and junk food.
I took double dose of pre-natal supplements during pregnancy (doctor's recommendation) but I still had too low levels of iron, thus anemia for almost a year. I had postpartum hemorrhage and had to take stronger iron supplements both for me and my baby for two months after birth. The issue was probably that I had no money to afford a whole diet. I got pregnant unexpectedly during a financial crisis. While I ate iron- rich foods when I could, it wasn't enough and my diet probably lacked other nutrients. I also didn't get enough vitamin D and I was so exhausted all the time I only got out and exercised when I had to do the prenatal check up and exams. Moral of the story, humans aren't supposed to live off supplementary pills.
Congratulations for carrying out the baby to terms instead of aborting him/her. Most women in your situation would have killed them, yet you carried out your duty as a mother and respected their life,d espite all the complications you mention. We need more women like you.
Dang, I feel you! Financial difficulties make everything harder. I am glad that you and the baby pulled through! I hope you all are doing better now. I don't know if you have it in your area, but my sister-in-law used WIC during her pregnancy for a while after. It is a government program in the United States. "The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) provides federal grants to states for supplemental foods, health care referrals, and nutrition education for low-income pregnant, breastfeeding, and non-breastfeeding postpartum women, and to infants and children up to age 5 who are found to be at nutritional risk."
Could be heavy periods or you could be a carrier for a blood disease as well. Only iron supplements will fix that. No amount of food will. I say this as someone with heavy periods, sickle cell trait, and who's gone to a blood specialist doctor in the U.S. My best friend has heavy periods and no blood disease and still has to get iron transfusions.
It's just so damn exhausting. No matter what diet you have there's always a thousand people pointing a finger at you telling you why you're going to die because of it. There's so much conflicting information that it's hopeless to ever try to piece together any sort of meaningful understanding of it all.
@@L.OB-1 If only things were so simple. There are two sides to the argument. If you are finished listening after hearing just one that means you're not thinking critically.
@@kingbranden1369I totally feel you. I'm a vegan for ethical reasons for 8 years now while it seems the health aspects are never to be settled. I continue listening to all sites over the years and always something new comes up. You see that in other topics of health as well, especially concerning diet. There is always conflicting information, new research always contradicting older research. I tend to think that after all many diets work and people shouldn't so easily think it's just one. Of course that opinion can be challenged, but anything else doesn't seem to be that certain.
I wonder what effect mass farming of animals in small enclosures to fatten them up has had on the healthiness of meat, assuming that animals farmed this way have more fat than wild animals
no effect at all. and as always depending on the breed and geographical location of the cattle and exactly what they are being fed in the enclosure. as well as what they eat 'in the wild'. frankly all you have to do is do a necropsy (a post mortem examination by a medical professional on an animal isn't called an autopsy for some medical jargon reason) on any 'feeder cattle' as the industry in the USA calls em or 'feed lot cattle'. then compare those findings to the classical 'home home on the range' cattle that wander thousands of miles every year looking for natural forage in the wild. the only differences you will find? range cattle have denser and therefore TOUGHER muscles due to a lifelong environment wandering free vs feeder cattle have less tough (more tender) and less developed muscles due to being 'fat lazy cows'... which yes is the source of the insult for people who sit around doing nothing all day, you're being called a feed lot cow. the feeder cattle have a gentle and quiet lifespan which is significantly shorter than their range cattle cousins. it doesn't take as long to feed a cow in a pen and get it to 'market weight and age' vs a range cow takes upwards of twice as long to gain the same muscle mass and body weight. the range cattle must move great distances to find forage and water and possible shelter from inclement weather. depending on where in the world is Carmen Sandeigo (the cow) bears, wolves, mountain lions, coyotes, African lions, leopards, cheeta, tigers, and other predators may kill and eat the range cattle. not a lot of predators will approach a cattle farm, due to farmers shooting said predators, traps, poisons, and big tall fences sometimes electrified. also all that is depending on where the cow lives. more than one head of cattle is lost yearly to Africa's wildlife and accidents. also, the myth about 'tiny lots' at least in North America is in fact... a myth. in just about every single US State. feeder cows get regular 'outside time' even in the most freezing cold weather. a well exercised cow is a healthy cow, with better muscle development, demeanor, and tractability to be herded from pasture to pasture to barn/shed/enclosure/feeding machinery/bales of forage. smaller farms will have smaller lots of course. but even the local cattle farmers here in my area of Alabama USA right near three 'cities' with a total population a smidge over 55,000 humans... the cattle lots/grazing fields are sometimes miles long on a side. our lil corner of heaven is right smack North of the I-20 corridor and almost exactly halfway between the major metropolises of Atlanta, Georgia and Birmingham, Alabama. the Southernmost city i mentioned of the three, is almost exactly cut into fourths by a State Highway running North South and the US Interstate i previously mentioned running East West. so we're not big on raising 'beef' cattle. but we have quite a few dairy farms here. how did i learn all of this? i lived in Montana, USA for more than five years. so i had plenty of time to absorb lots of cattle facts.
It's certainly not healthy for the animals. Feedlot fattening invariably leads to antibiotic dependence simply from having so many animals in close social contact. And using a big diesel tractor to harvest hay and grain, then a big diesel truck to bring it to the feedlot, and then either machinery or a whole lot of water to clear away the manure, will always be problematic compared to letting the cows walk around the paddock harvesting their own feed. The best option is cattle farmed in a regenerative grazing regime, where the animals are actually helping to rebuild soil by locking carbon into humus.
You're making things up. There is no healthy plants only diet. We are all omnivores. Besides, you use animal products needlessly just like the rest of us. No point in pretending to be against it...
Sir, don't pretend that vegan don't kill, because of you vegans there are millions of insects getting killed every year by pesticides and herbicides used on fruits and vegetables. Don't these insects deserve to live?
It's because meat has become cheap and isn't a luxury anymore at least not compared to pre industrialisation. Before that most people ate the whole animal because either that's what they could afford or for cultural reasons
@@BackfeetBoi I agree with what you say about our relative affluence. My question / thoughts run more toward the high nutrient qualities of organ meat that we might be missing out on because we have recently decided that it is icky.
@sidecarmisanthrope5927 but not necessarily with the vitamins intact. Liver has Vit A if memory serves me well. High temperatures used in a lot if not most processed foods in the West, mean destruction of those vitamins.
I wish there was time to do a video researching the validity of the studies quoted and if there were motives behind them... seems like there are researchers to prove every argument turning everything into a black and white issue... leading to even more confusion..
There's no need for confusion. There's history. All you have to do is do some research for once in your life. PROPER, old-school research, the sort that most people nowdays either don't know how to do properly or are too lazy to do so, because it takes weeks/months to do. It's not even difficult to do. It's just time consuming.
I would be interested to know how fermentation (Generally done with yeast and/or lactic bacteria - if your product has a salt brine and is refrigerated, it's generally fermented) affects the vitamin uptake from vegan diets. And of course the other end - pickling (Generally done with an outside acid such as vinegar, longer shelf life, doesn't usually need to be refrigerated) and how that affects the vitamin uptake. Let me know if you do a video on this difference!
My hypothesis would be that it would only help with maybe 2 or 3 vitamins. It helps in the case of K2 but only in the form of either menaquinone 4 or 7, I can’t remember. But there are something like 13 different menaquinones that the body needs and, as far as we know, only other animals can make them.
it doesnt amtter how much you ferment it you wont get anything from it apart from the bacteria why do you thjink cows eat so much grass all day. literally not one animal is vegan. animals cannot utilise minerals and vitamins from plants
Social media started around 2004. when in same time internet became better and along with computer prices affordable to medium and lower income peoples, mobile phones as well with slow wap internet.
If you have bloating issues it's not because of AS that's for sure. Bloating comes from consuming too much fiber rich foods, beans make you fart because they are very rich in fiber, vegans fart all the time not because of AS but because they have a much higher intake of fiber than omnivores or carnivores. I rarely if ever fart and never have experienced bloating, that's because I don't consume excess ammounts of fiber and eat a low carb(less than 100g daily) and high in animal products diet. -Back to AS: they can give you cancer according to rat studies but take them with a grain of salt, they fed those poor rodents so much AS daily as a normal human would consume in a life time, if body weight/size is aligned.
One of my biggest eye openers in life was finally realizing first hand how i was supposed to feel. Happened when i cut out the junk and ate veggies fruits and meat only. I mean after 6 weeks i realized my whole being leveled up. Mental state, function, emotions, anxiety vanished, brain fired on all cylinders, i felt young and alive. I cant say enough about it. Dont eat junk. Society would be a better place if everyone did.
Very hard to do that. Most people today are addicted to sugar without even knowing it. I'm personally addicted to sugar and caffeine, it's hard to kick, but I'm definitely trying to reduce the weekend snacks.
I at some point noticed how I never felt great after eating meat. I stopped eating meat but continued eating fish which worked for me. People should experiment more with what they can digest well.
17:23 In korea its also customary to feed pregnant women kelp soup. I dont remember where i heard this but there are certain tribes in africa who burn kelp and feed the burnt kelp to pregnant women Pretty cool how people from different corners of the world discovered feeding seaweed to pregnant women makes babies healthy.
Indeed, the native communities have valuable wisdom, and it's almost a mystery for us how they obtained it. Here in this part of the world the natives living in the mountain regions traded with the people living in the coast to obtain fish roe to give to their pregnant woman. When scientist analized the nutritional contents of fish roe they noticed that they were rich in vitamins A, D, B12, Choline, etc. Critical nutrients for proper development. It's hard to tell how they, without microscopes and laboratories, knew this fact better than us
it's shame based self-flagelation. it's neo catholicism in terms of denying ourselves of our nature. it's the cycle of life that we are to eat or be eaten
there is no ethical difference to animals between vegans and vegetarians the realest criminal is factory farmed animals and animal products why don't they become co-op farmers so mass produced soy and corn they eat as a substitute doesn't churn tons of rabbits in the fields, etc?
Yes it absolutely is the primary motivation for most, the health benefits that they want to tout are how they try to use logic to justify a decision that was made for emotional reasons. I think 2 things can be true at once, it would be morally better if we didn’t have to kill other animals to sustain ourselves, and we are much healthier and thrive better by eating animals.
Imagine being suprised that living like our ancestors did for thousands of years (eating whole foods, meat, exercising daily, getting sunlight, socializing) is the healthiest option
@A B in some cases, a lot of it. like those that are on the carnivore diet, out of necessity, because for some reason their bodies got completely messed up and can barely process carbs until they heal.
No vegan disagrees about them except the meat, it has being proven again and again in various studies that a planned vegan diet has no disadvantages and is even better than omnivore diet in some cases.
I mean 84% quitting is a lot of well known people that could be shown here. However, that guy now has a totally different issue but would be interesting for another video
My eldest brother was born in Holland in 1943, in an urban area. This meant that he experienced a degree of starvation during his first two years of life (German occupation, the so-called winter of hunger of 1944/45). He is markedly shorter than eight of his siblings (his sister, born in 1944 is even shorter) and he has the crookedest teeth of the whole bunch. Other than that he is perfectly healthy and compos mentis now at 80.
i stopped watching at your b12 debate..... I'm not vegan I'm not carnivore but open minded, but you go on how like 7% of vegetarians are deficient in b12 compared to meat eaters and can only be found in meet...explain why over 30% of Americans are deficient in B12 and they eat meat... any body with a open mind knows B12 IS NOT NATURALLY found in meat or dairy , its added through the animals diet than stored in the body just how someone would supplement with B12... vegan vegetarian carnivore etc
Gluttonous diets of processed food isn't exactly rich in proper vitamins. Proper diets with plants and meat are meant for humans. We are all omnivores.
At 10:07, you incorrectly cite DOI: 10.1093/ajcn/78.1.131. The 92% holoTC figure explicitly refers to individuals that did *not* take B supplements. 88% of vegan "vitamin users" had low holoTC - very similar number, but if you look at the actual levels, they were substantially better on average (14 pmol/L vs 4 pmol/L) for vitamin-users. B12 levels for vitamin-using vegans were actually slightly better than LV-LOV individuals in this study. Clearly, B12 supplements do *something*. In the study, "vitamin users" took B vitamin supplements, but not with any particular protocol. That said, the study does show a stark contrast between omnivores and vegetarians - only 1% of omnivores had low B12, and 11% had low holoTC levels,
Also, where does he misquote the article? He simply stated what the article said. He didn’t say this was referring to “vegans who take vitamins”. If he said that, then that would be misquoting.
@@EmanPwns The context of the citation was a discussion of vegetarians and vegans who take B12 supplements, but the figures cited were for those who do not take B12 supplements. Why would you quote the non-supplement-taking figures when discussing the effectiveness of B12 supplements? I don't doubt that it was just an honest mistake, but it's either an incorrect citation or a misleading statement about supplement effectiveness. I chose to interpret it as an simple incorrect citation.
"When I was a lad, I ate four dozen eggs every morning to help me get large, and now that I've grown I eat five dozen eggs so I'm roughly the size of a barge" - Gaston, hero of Beauty and the Beast.
Nooooooo... ooooone's slick as Gaston! No one's quick as Gaston No one's neck's as incredibly thick as Gaston's For there's no man in town half as manly Perfect, a pure paragon! You can ask any Tom, Dick or Stanley And they'll tell you whose team they prefer to be on
Whenever mother-in-law went on holiday, husband and I would move into her flat, to look after her cat. Year 1, the cat couldn't get enough of the raw meat we fed it. MIL came home and chewed our heads off. "They mustn't have raw meat. It makes them too frisky." So that was us told. Pet cats must be kept in a permanent nutrient-deprived stupor.
Well meat isn’t the natural food for cats. Mice are. Cats are highly specialised predators. They need the whole mouse, intestines and all, not muscle meat from some cow 😔
@@LittleKikuyu Cats' natural prey is whatever their wild ancestors ate and currently eat. "Mice" is simplistic nonsense based on pop culture references. The domesticated cat's closest wild cousin is the African wildcat. Its diet includes mice and rats but is not exclusively rodent-based. They also eat birds, lizards, other small reptiles, and insects. Except for when you look at the western African wildcat, which is happy to hunt down hares and gerbils. The southern variety will take down antelope fawns as well as domesticated lambs.
