Millie is so aggressive and uninformed. Ed is the complete opposite. That man is a gift to this earth. Thank you PBN for your assessment and comments. Spot on.
@@RagingBullNuts most people see what they want to see. I am a carnivore, but I am not about to say millie won. Both sides had some good points. He was way off on abortion though.
Juaquin De La Rosa I didn't say Millie one, I pretty much said what you said. I just pointed out that even he said she brought up good points, dismissing what OP said about her being misinformed.
@@RagingBullNuts Yes, I know you did not say that. I was agreeing with you and added more because all these vegans keep acting like Millie Weaver got destroyed, lol. ✌
Isaac Smith Pretty rude to harass a small farm business with protesting. He and group put them selves in public View... and you get upset when media shows up? Immature vegans
@@Blue-hf7xt The protesters were not acting rude before Millie showed up. People are allowed to protest. If you want to silence free speech, that's what's wrong. You would want to be allowed to protest for your beliefs too. I'm not saying for protesters bullying, yelling, or getting physical on people tho. Why are some people not ok with peaceful protest, but ok with bullying, saying death threats, and doxxing people or business people online?
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c so what you are saying, defending the protesters. iS it’s Milie’s fault Her presence caused them to be Rude? Because Vegans would normally be just practicing their freedom of speech and religion. Vegans are giving vegans a crazy name.
It’s been proven that veganism does not make you infertile lol. Nutrient deficiency does. Vegans CAN be nutrient deficient, but if done properly this diet is the healthiest in the world as many nutritionists and scientists have stated
@@davidhendrix5171 true, but that doesn't ruin the whole movement. many vegans i know are very quick to spread the word about crazy people who come in spouting bs. there is one man, i forgot his name, but he promotes fruititarianism. he says women have periods to drain their bodies of toxins, and that not having a period means you're free of toxins. he has no backing to his claims and we all know it. he doesn't represent the entire movement.
Lily Rose anyone can be nutrient deficient. I believe omnivores are more often deficient in stuff like blood protein levels, vitamin D (or was it B12?) than vegans. Can’t remember exactly where I’ve seen those studies...
Exactly!! So many vegan moms I know personally. Not to mention the many Facebook groups discussing vegan pregnancy and parenting, all which share access to midwives, coaches, whatever you need to feel like you have some support instead of people trying to feed your baby meat because they think you’re starving their child- based on opinions.
They didn't live long because of infections supported by lack of hygiene, hard work that used up their bodies , bad conditions to exist. And meat was not the reason,because they died in their 30, years before developing ' meat associated' diseases.
@@reggieshmeggie4219 you're right on that one. I think meat served a role when calories were super scarce and we probably would have died much sooner without it. I think in terms of the appeal to tradition falacy, using the other unethical things they did (slaves, genocide, etc.) , and comparing their lifestyles then vs. now (they weren't able to go to their nearest grocery store and buy flax seeds, etc.) Is far more valid in these terms.
Maybe one day she wakes up and listen to herself talk. Ed: Are we animals? Millie: No. We are conscious beings. Did she not realize animals are conscious? They feel fear and pain. She clearly has not evolved. She keeps on talking about ancestors. Ed wins hands down.
But most importanly, right after "we're sentient beings", she said "we came from god" well, the Bible teaches us that everything came from god, including animals😅
fladave99 Mills also look at Serena williams, she is completely vegan. I don’t think she has any of the deficiencies that you named. Eating meat is wrong, just accept it. Also, these reasons don’t morally justify how killing an animal is alright. Human flesh is rich in nutrients to, what do you say then, start cannibalism?
most vegans are unless they get into biology "we dont have claws,teeth" then they dont even deserve to be debated.However when talking about actual scientific studies comparing vegans vs meat eater or animal suffering...vegans always win.Vegans focus way too much in true human nature argument but then again when they lost they say "appeal to nature is BS!!"
+Hug Mungus, You can say: "is appeal to nature. And by the way, ALSO, naturally we are not omnivores, but herbivorous". That adds value to the discussion. For many people is important our dietetic nature because many of us want to eat what is healthiest for us, for what we are more adapted to eat. And the argument is in the vegan side so is a point that give veganism points in a debate. Watch the video "Milton Mills, MD: Are Humans Designed to Eat Meat?". And from William C Roberts one recognized cardiologist: "Is atherosclerosis a disease affecting all animals or only certain animals? Atherosclerosis affects only herbivores. Dogs, cats, tigers, and lions can be saturated with fat and cholesterol, and atherosclerotic plaques do not develop (1, 2). The only way to produce atherosclerosis in a carnivore is to take out the thyroid gland; then, for some reason, saturated fat and cholesterol have the same effect as in herbivores. Are human beings herbivores, carnivores, or omnivores? Although most of us conduct our lives as omnivores, in that we eat flesh as well as vegetables and fruits, human beings have characteristics of herbivores, not carnivores (2). The appendages of carnivores are claws; those of herbivores are hands or hooves. The teeth of carnivores are sharp; those of herbivores are mainly flat (for grinding). The intestinal tract of carnivores is short (3 times body length); that of herbivores, long (12 times body length). Body cooling of carnivores is done by panting; herbivores, by sweating. Carnivores drink fluids by lapping; herbivores, by sipping. Carnivores produce their own vitamin C, whereas herbivores obtain it from their diet. Thus, humans have characteristics of herbivores, not carnivores." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
Unless they get into the "humans are herbivores not omnivores!!" Im vegetarian and every time I see his video about how we cant kill a pig with our hands its makes me so mad maaaan.Just because its so wrong yet so many uplift him like some kind of vegan jesus
trypophobia loving republican savior they should debate against my brother! I’ve tried to talk to him about veganism, but he refuses to listen because he always thinks he is right😯
Guys listen, I came on this Channel 3 hours ago Just to troll. After tens of videos i found out that veganism is the proper direction of humanity. I can believe i didnt think about it before but evolution led us here. The problem is i am greek And u all Know about greek food And greek holidays. We eat Meat Like crazy it is literally our favourite thing.
@@andresargote454 For instance being vegan and pro choice. So you are ok with killing babies for convenience, but not with killing animals for food. That says to me you have very low morals.
Dutch Bushcraft HAHAHAHA you are very funny my guy, isn’t “live and let live” carnies favorite comeback to vegans? It is not yours nor my decision whether a woman believes she will be able to provide a healthy life for her offspring. It is her choice, not yours, not your religions, not your laws. You do not carry that fetus for 9 months nor will you even provide a penny towards its life, it is not for you to decide. “Pro-lifer” who kills animals without a second thought.
@@bruisley709 Killing people and killing animals are different. Some vegans are overly conflating them. Tho in the past, killing people was more ok. You could've used other examples, like how slavery was a past culture but that doesn't mean it's ok. Tho diet choice is not the same as slavery, and I'm not going to force people what to eat. I just mean Millie's argument for tradition was weak.
Her name literally says it all: Mil(Lie)-Weaver : Weaver of Lies There are two things you can never win against: 1. The Truth 2. An argument with Ed Winters opposing Veganism
Let's not stigmatize names that people can't help. There's other nice or vegan people with those same names too. Especially when Millie and Weaver are pretty common names. I see weaver as positive. As in crafting and creativity.
It is true, but Alex and everyone there have been bought out by every industry. Just trying to push views and as stated, to sell a new product of theirs. They are con artists and hypocrites not only working for different industries but are also bought by the Zionists to push the shadow government's agenda. There is even an article on infowars about how eating plants is beneficial to health and longevity. www.infowars.com/the-benefits-of-a-plant-based-diet/
Caroline Stevens ....Ha... HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! We have low iq? For agreeing with eachother? Don't cults practice sacrifices, usually animals? Veganism has nothing to do with religion, stop trying to group us with cults.
Jovilyn Mendoza Because deep down they realise it's the right thing to do but they don't see how they could. That's why they get frustrated and lash out.
Many people just can't face the facts of what their diet is actually doing, so they have to resort to all kinds of denial, justifications and self defense tactics to protect their ego's from feeling bad and carry on with their behavior. It's purely egoic.
@Gavriel Shakelberg all meat eaters i know are sick, dead or in the hospital for organ failure. guess personal anecdotes don’t always mean facts of they?
I still eat some meat but am working on Stopping. I think his calm collectiveness is partially due to no meat and its dieproducts in his system....seriously.
It was supposed to be an interview, but she didn’t even listen to Ed’s answers to her questions. This was more like a monologue where she screams bullshit..😆
"We kill animals more humanely than other animals do" Hmmm I thought we weren't animals?? Millie said we're conscious beings placed here by God. She contradicts herself so much...
That doesn't mean Millie was saying humans are animals. I agree that some humans kill animals more humanely than animals. That's a fact. Tho Idk how many farmers and butchers do. Watching Plant Based News and Jake Tran, it makes it hard for me to really trust businesses.
rockinstrawberries wheat and crops are fertizled by bone meal and animals products such as blood meal fish products bone meal feces or other animal origin matter therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet it's impossible.. it's a legal requirement for farmers In the US to fertizled there crops by bone meal and animals products such as blood meal fish products bone meal feces or other animal origin matter therefore there is no such thing as a vegan diet it's impossible.. vegans are not allowed to buy wheat or crops in the supermarket because it's fertizled by bone meal and animals products such as blood meal fish products bone meal feces or other animal origin matter ... vegans are not allowed to eat in a vegan restaurant because the wheat and crops are fertizled by bone meal and animals products such as blood meal fish products bone meal feces or other animal origin matter... vegans must go organic and veganic farming methods.... vegans must grow their own vegetables and wheat in the back garden or apparement where the vegan hippie lives lettuce it's on bite size vegan q and a... vegan men have a lower sperm count vegan females are usually feminist or d y k e s... Leo deprico and bono are warning us mere mortals about the dangers of global warming now the vegan activts are also getting in on the act because they want to moan about something else... Mr trump has pulled out of the Paris climate change agreement because there is no such thing as global warming....
You realize that growing plants without animal products is possible? As well, being vegan is not the elimination of using animals, it's whenever possible, and as much as possible, choosing the option that does not exploit animals.
Ed destroyed her, even though she controlled the mic and barely let him speak as she kept taking the mic away. She clearly has no clue what she's talking about.
It's not about destroying people. How does that help convince people? How is that different from some bullies on the opposing side? That reinforces the stigma of vegans are fake science and just wants a excuse to control others. Many people are just naive and brainwashed. Especially towards something niche and different. It takes time to educate people.
As a Christian vegan that was so painful to watch. He was so patient with her. My understanding of the Bible is that God intended Adam and Eve to live a vegan life. They could eat from all the trees and plants. The animals were their companions not their food. It was their disobedience that changed things. I hope she can watch this video and see that she wasn’t even listening to his responses to her questions.
mauricio virmond I read your question and tried to research articles of whether or not they feel pain. There seems to be a difference of opinion. I myself wouldn’t eat them because I don’t eat seafood either. I’ve only been vegan for four years so I’m still always learning 😊🌱
Agreed; Genesis 1:29-30. "Behold I have given you every plant yielding seed; it shall be food for you; and to every beast of the earth and to every bid of the sky and to everything that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food."
L. Garcia You do not have to support all women. You do not have to support all men. What are you trying to relate? She is very unprofessional, stupid, and ignorant. She is a brainwashed pig
Stupidity is a plague... watching her makes me lose the will to live! How Earthling Ed manages to keep his cool every time is beyond me! Massive respect!
I doubt there's literal blood out your ears. You meant metaphoric. Acting patience and factual like Ed is the answer to people like Millie. Especially when some people think vegan has fake science. Vegan is niche, and many people are naive and brainwashed.
Brave or foolhardy? The thing is that InfoWars never has to deal with facts. She and her crew shot enough footage that the creative editors working for InfoWars can cut it so that it looks like Ed said things that he didn't say. And given the incredible level of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias of their audience they don't even need to worry about their editing being obvious or that they will seek other sources to confirm what InfoWars is say. Just as long as InfoWars rings the right bell their audience will start salivating right on cue.
Andy Brown Perhaps not consuming dead flesh is easier on the nervous system. Some theorize that the anxiety and fear of the slaughtered animals have a negative effect on those who consume them.
I think he did a great job to calmly explain the vegan argument to the viewers of infowars. I’m sure their viewers were watching this and whether or not they agree with Ed, they got more information about the argument for veganism than they probably had before this debate.
She's clearly uneducated about veganisme versus carnism! I ♥ Ed! He's such a cool intelligent dude and I wish I had this coolness ;-) . Thank God for PLANT BASED NEWS team and animal activist like Ed!!!
"Carnism is a concept used in discussions of humanity's relation to other animals, defined as a prevailing ideology in which people support the use and consumption of animal products, especially meat"
Omg when Ed actually had a chance to speak and he hit her with truth bombs, it’s like her brain short circuited. She looked so confused and she just regurgitated out the same point, even though he explained it to her three times. What on earth is wrong with this woman?! God help us.
So? Not everyone has to agree with you on that. People meant humans and animals are not equal. Such as killing people and killing animals are not the same.
Louis Gedo fact the meat industry is thriving proving the vegans have lost the debate. Plus I have met former vegans who have anemia. Some vegans where I work know they are B12 defeciant by their own admission. Yet denial of science fact continues from them. Also I am in perfect health I eat loads of meat. My Doc says I have the heart of an athelete. I go gym allot. Also I have met loads of severely obese vegans I also I am so well educated on fitness and health i can see all the unhealthy vegans on the pro vegan anti slaughter house marches. Its always unfit unhealthy people on those marches. Some of the speakers were big fat thick twats saying how healthy they think their diet is. The evidence is quite the opposite.
VGTOW 😂 get a monthly injection for b12? Lmao why not just be a vegetarian rather than vegan as a middle ground? Personally, not either, but I never understand why a person chooses veganism as opposed to vegetarianism. Veganism is nonviable in a natural state, while vegetarianism can be sustainable long term.
CaptainKirk Nationalism , you are wrong, there's nothing that is unnatural about being vegan. Besides, "natural" is a fallacious argument and isn't valid in informing us of what is morally justified or what is morally irresponsible behavior. Slavery, rape, and murder are all natural but just because they are, it can not inform us about whether rape, slavery, and murder is morally responsible behavior.Reject the Cult of Carnism....because morality matters....GO VEGAN !
Louis Gedo made up words are nonsense. Our bodies are biologically meant to consume plants and meats, with a large percentage being plants. Vegans are high moral supremacists who are willing to harm their offspring and others for the sake of morals they view as right...even when it is proven vegetarianism is viable and veganism is not. Natural in the sense that you do not need synthetic supplements to be vegetarian and you do for veganism. So, no, not some philosophical "natural".
To get b12 you need assistance. I deem that as unnatural. As in, you could not survive as a vegan without any additional supplement. A vegetarian can. Most animals that you deem slaves would cease to exist overtime if not living with them...I personally believe that to be far worse than eating fresh eggs and drinking raw milk. You'll never understand the joy and connection to the animals you say you care about so much, when they give birth and live alongside of you year after year. Instead, you would rather pedestal yourself and allow these creatures to slowly die off and then no longer exist.
Ed is one of my favourite activists. Always patient, well versed, always prepared, not threatening and so knowledgeable. Thank you for being the face of billions of animals with no voice and for representing vegans and veganism so well
Hahaha, our ancestors thought the Earth was flat. Some how saying that "Oh, it's what we do for so many years" can justify whatever the action is. #worldveganworldpeace🌅
These people are not Christians. They just use the Bible to take certain scripture out of context to attempt to defend a defenseless position. Millie needs to spend an entire day in a slaughterhouse and tell me if she believes her God is OK with that. And if she says yes… Then we know who her God is.
I don't care who you are, you'll never win against Earthling Ed. You'd have to be pretty arrogant to think otherwise. We're lucky to have him and many others
Let the man speak! Ugh. As a young female Christian... I just can't even with her. Lolololol the product in the end! Because our bodies aren't meant to be digesting rivers of meat! That's hilarious!
She shouts so much, and she is closest to the mic. That voice :/ screeching rubbish - ouch! She's not familiar with the sensitivity of her mic, imported from overseas...
I've only started watching the first few minutes, but she's already stating something about Christianity which is blatantly untrue. God did not put animals here for us to eat. In the very first chapter of the first book of the Bible, it is clear that God's original design for mankind was to be herbivores, (Genesis 1:29-30) there was peace and harmony between all living beings at the very beginning, that was God's will and still is. I wish that Ed could've corrected her right then and there, but since he's probably not a Christian, he didn't catch that mistake.
Lily Marie I think he did not correct her because that would have changed the conversation to a biblical one and that is not what his message is about. He tries to keep people from swaying the conversation off topic.
Yes, that makes sense. Don't get me wrong, Ed always does an amazing job, in my view. I love that he is calm, kind and respectful. It's just a bit frustrating when Christianity is blatantly misrepresented, as she did there.
" that was God's will and still is" But it's not. The bible makes numerous references that we can eat meat. I mean, even Jesus ate fish. Not much more to say about that...
I bet she wished she hadn’t found someone as intelligent as Ed when she started the interview,😂 he was all over it and did a brilliant calming debate!!! Love it! Thanks for sharing PBN!
Ed is just a saint :) Having to repeat the same explanations all over again cause she's incapable (or unwilling?!) to understand them the first time around... Getting triggered just watching the intro about her.
I know that many people are not religious here but I am and if you want to know a few things bear it with me. When it comes to the Bible that woman is wrong. God never planned for humans to consume meat, we can see that in the Genesis story of Adam and Eve. "Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29 People started eating meat only after Noah's story since the earth was destroyed and all. That is why 7 pairs of clean (The term clean refer to kosher laws, see Leviticus 11) were taken in to the ark. Then the LORD said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and all your family... take with you seven of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate." (Genesis 7:1-2) The story of Cain and Abel was completely taken off context. God called for the sacrifice of animals as a symbol of the future sacrifice that would be done by the Son of God but had nothing to do with consuming the meat. You can read Genesis chapter 4 for that.
This was so painful to watch. Yes I am vegan but even if I were not, her arguments have no basis. That may be the lawyer in me because there is NO WAY TO KILL HUMANELY...
Brah, Harry Potter was based on the Bible, JK Rowling talked about that a lot...sorry mate, those experience points need to be manuevered to dungeons and dragons.
"lions go for the genitals first "well at least those animals still are in possession of them ,unlike the poor pigs and sheep that are castrated as babies without anesthetic routinely on farms ,the ignorance is astounding
man, imagine if anyone else offered to debate her. ed was probably the perfect person in that group, no, in the entire planet to debate her, and it still fell on deaf ears.
"When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off of her hand" - that's also bible. I'm sure she'd obey. Just like the fragment about menstruating women to be "unclean". It's funny how religious people only choose those fragments of the bible that suits them.
Thats why I somewhat respect muslims,they really REALLY believe what their book say doesnt matter how fucked up it is.However this revisionated christianity definitely played a role in laying the foundations for most western super powers.
You can cherrypick pro and con against just about any "sin" in the Bible, especially when it comes to flesh eating and killing! It was designed that way -- to be confusing, and then tell people they must blindly follow it. God is not found in any book written by man.
I am a vegan. I started it because of curiosity and in two till three weeks felt more energetic, stronger(durable) and clearer mind. During almost three years of veganism I have learned a lot about myself and world around me. I was conscious about environment before became the vegan, but I love the fact that whatever meat/dairy/fish eaters say/argue I AS A VEGAN KNOW THAT MY SURVIVAL ON THIS PLANET PRODUCE OXYGEN and that's most important. Pluss I CAN AVOID KILLING ANIMALS. I am Catholic but I am not religious, but clearly remember that commandment is YOU SHALL NO KILL and that's it. It does not say who or what.
This lady does not know her Bible very well! The Cain and Abel debate is perhaps the silliest argument I have heard so far. God was pleased with Abel’s offering, but the Bible teaches that it was his faith that pleased God, not what he offered. The offering itself, at least from a true biblical worldview is irrelevant. As Jesus said, “You [God] have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings” (Hebrews 10:8). However, there are a couple of things about the offerings that are noteworthy: 1. There are other ancient Hebraic versions of the story where Cain brought the offering of animal fat, and the righteous Abel who brought the grain offering! “…but as to Cain who did not want to make an offering, but after his father became very angry, he offered up a gift once. He took the smallest of his sheep for an offering and when he offered it up, his eyes were on the lamb. Therefore God did not accept his offering, because his heart was full of murderous thoughts.” (From ‘The Book of Adam and Eve’). 2. In the biblical version of the story both offerings are described as Minhār offerings, which elsewhere in scripture always connotes a non-blood offering. 3. As the Hebrew word for fat and dairy is the same (without the vowel markings) many early Christians believed that Abel never killed an animal but gave to God milk or cheese. Granted that’s not vegan either, but this is important within the context of the Biblical narrative as it is not until much later, after the flood, that God gave permission for humans to kill and eat animals. Therefore had he killed an animal then he would have been acting against God’s laws. It seems clear from a biblical worldview that eating meat is permissible, but that not everything which is permissible is beneficial, either to us, the planet or the animals. It does not reflect God’s perfect will, His creative intent, for us to kill animals.
She had a list of questions to ask Ed and didn't care to listen to the answers and respond properly .Fantastic factual replies from Ed as usual and yes he is my leader and can speak on my behalf forever. Thank you 👍
3:00 great argument. If you ever come across these kinds of people, just tell them to take it up with Seventh-Day Adventists. They're Christians that have advocated a plant-based diet for years. It's far more productive.
I’m no Vegan, but to be honest, that girl seemed like she was against the ropes, I’m thinking about trying a Vegan diet just to find out how it feels but a lot of people say it’s not good, maybe I should give it a try?
If she knew beforehand who he was, she would have never chosen to debate him. If you like meat so much, just admit you don't care if animals get killed because you prefer the taste of meat over alternatives.
If I hear somebody bringing Cain and Abel to a debate, I immediately lose all interest in that person, there's nothing from the intellectual point of view from that person that can fix that, congrats to Earthling Ed for being so controlled and perseverant.
Ed is amazing. I don't have the patience to talk to someone like her. It's difficult to have a conversation with someone who doesn't listen/isn't open to other opinions. Ed is the man- so kind, eloquent and patient xox
