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Buchad khane milk band gay bhens Mari 😢

सही बात

Agree 💯

Bhai Ji Ne Pina hai use Kitna bhi Samjha do koi Fark Nahin padane Wala Hai vah Log to Koi Na Koi Bahana karke pienge hi Anpadh Aur gawar Ko Samjhana impossible hai

right

Which cruelty? You don’t know anything bro….you are helping cow by milking them…..we are Indian….vegan word is not for us….

It's like ek cruel boss hai jo apne employee se zyada kaam karwa raha hai jo uske health ko impact kar rahi hai .. To hame kyaa karnaa chahiye 1)employee ko bol do job se nikal jaao and now u r of no use.. OR 2) Employer ko samjhaao aur uski cruelty band ho uspe dhyaan do.. Obviously option 2 is better... Vaise hi cow ki employment chin ke use slaughter house bhejne se achaa hai ham cruelty pe focus karke us dishaa me kuch kare

@@jaychheda4250 yhi bat me bhi smjha rha hu….nice example bro…👍

@@chiragjain1354 it is possible….

@@chiragjain1354 bro 1….bhai calf ko Bs 1/10 hi dete h…usse jada diya to unko dast lg jayega…. 2…..milking se cow ki jan bchate h….thodi apni research bhi ker le….koi Bol de to Bs andhbhakt ki trh man lo….

Thanks 🙏

Let this debate be in this comment box Please start with one point we will definitely engage in this healthy discussion

would you like to Join Jain Vegan Group?

​@@GirishShahJain I would like to join the group.

आपने पूर्ण रूप से तार्किक बात कही है

Agree 💯

Lol u don't know how delicious meat is that's why you are saying this

​@@themadtitan728 lol you don't know how illiterate you are.. That's why you are telling this 🙂

​@themadtitan728 and lol you don't know what will happen after life that's why you are saying this

Brother cruelty us time bhi hoti hi thi .. agar ithaas padhkar dekhoge to pata chalega .. jab neminath bhagwan shaadi karne jaa rhe the tab unhe pata laga ye sab jaanwar meri wajah se mare tab unhone ye sansaar tyag ki bhawna aayi .. naa ki ki doodh tyaag dene ki 😑

Exactly! I lost it at this moment and coincidently found your comment. Like him there are so many humans who think they are someone to do something against nature, they are superior to other species so they can decide what and how much happens to them. This happens when you are blinded by religion( as you do not question wrongs and justify them rather) and merely a human being.

Dekh bhai tujhe animal agriculture ke baare me ghanta kuchh nhi pata aur tera gaawar pan saaf dikh rha hai to apna muh soch samjh kr khol

Sent to slaughter house

Thrown on roads to die.... that's their fate.

We can use them is farming…..and yes they are enough energetic…for this work…

@@technoakmusic7291 Now hardly any Cow/Buffalo used for farming. Tractors replaced them completely.

@@technoakmusic7291 what about the rape it has to suffer every year, we call it cow, what we can't even think about our mom how can we do it to cow calling it mother? Carbon emissions and water pollution? Animal slavery is again there in farming through male cattle .

If we will stop consuming dairy product cow value will decrease and beef will go cheaper…sir you don’t know this simple thing….how product rate goes down and up🙃…..don’t became fool…

We can stop using modern farming technology…as it will be the best move to help our environment….. 1..it will help our soil…form chemicals… 2…cows will be saved form slaughtered… 3…there is huge business mind…in veganism… 4…and I thing it will effect our health.. 5..we Indians are one of the biggest fool….that we are following western countries…in every field…

@@technoakmusic7291 If we stop drinking milk, the price of milk will drop, and it won't be viable for dairy industry to breed, feed and maintain cattle. So they will stop breeding them. Without this cheap supply of cattle coming from the dairy industry, the beef industry will have to breed them themselves. This will raise their costs in a big way and so they'll have to sell the beef at much higher prices. This would lead to lower demand for beef. Think it through.

Logical…

@@ananddoctor problem started by cow owner: if they stop sell cows to beef supplier problem is solved: in indian culture when cow is died we did properly antim sanskar it very important

Ye alag hi aaya hai again vegan wala yaha bhi 👀

@@shubhjain4553 Mai bhi aya hu himmat hai to reply kar.

@@NaveenKumar-nx8yi This vegan trend wants us to curb consumption of milk products in turn will lead a farmer or a person earning money through these means to send these cattle to slaughter house because why they will keep them and spend money on them. This in turn would be consumed by these non veg people. So this is what they want. They want Indian traditions and religious culture to destroy so that they can succeed in their own means. We already have seen what happens to the nature when more animals are slaughtered. We already seen nature side effects across the world who are major consumer of non veg items. this will happen in India ahead if this kind of mentality prevails.

@@NaveenKumar-nx8yi tu koi toap hai kya iss duniya me. Aukat me reh

@@dhavanshah6126 😂😂🤦

You are going in the perfect direction, I follow a Jain Vegan diet too, mock meat is good for the non-vegetarians who are transitioning straight to vegan, Imagine there are non-vegetarians who are giving up meat and dairy at the same time and we Jains do so much drama to just leave one item from our diet which is dairy. Not only so much we go to so much extent that we create such fake videos to tell the Jain community to continue to torture animals and drink milk because our boss tortures us too at job. Such great visionary can only use such stupid examples.

@@YashDoshi89 Jains maintain a whole lot of gaushalas, we dont need to stop drinking milk, but we need to change the source of that milk, we should get milk from jain gaushalas or from those villagers directly instead of those industrialists, and if your care and concern is true than you should donate in jivdaya to save gaay from katalkhana/industries and bring them to gaushala just like all our jain grandparents still do but today's generation has forgotten. And according to jain diet we shouldnt eat cheese,butter,yogurt,etc. they are abhaksya but milk is not. If everyone stops eating cheese,yogurt,butter there will be enough milk to fulfil needs of every human without any kind of torture to cows. In short, we need to stop consuming every milk items made in industries we can consume only direct milk taken from gaay.

Hyprocrisy is that when our jain sadhus were saying that each and every milk product which is created in industries is abhakshya these youngsters were not willing to quit cheese,butter,yogurt,etc. but now when the western propogandists are saying everyone is happily following it

Aajkal jain pizza , jain maggi bhi mil rahe hai kya weh sabhi abhakshya hai ??? Aajkal log chocolate jaise diary milk , dark chocolate khate hai kya weh sahi hai khana ???

@@saikrishnanayak1993 ha ye sabhi abhakshya hai

Based on RTI report about 9 crore cows and buffalo's were artificially inseminated last year, several crores of animals are killed in slaughter houses every year, almost all animal come from dairy industries Can we afford to part of this Creulty by consuming animal milk and dairy products, selling useless, exploited animals to slaughter industries Why India is leading exporter of BEEF?, why beef is sold cheap at almost half price of motton? Why India leading exporter of BEEF? Request all to refer atichar sutras on animal cruelty sutras and get addresses of few dairy's practicalically commercially producing milk for mass consumption Based on original multiple crystal clear sutras and super science of kewali Bhagwan Mahavir Swami all true Jain's should adopt VIGHAI TAYG as part of lifestyle Quit all ANIMAL BASED PRODUCTS (NON VEG, MILK, CURD, BUTTER, GHEE, HONEY) plus quit Liquor, oil and oily items, jaggery popularly used, stated by Mahaveer swami 2600 years back VEGANS ALSO CLEARLY STATE TO QUIT ALL ANIMAL BASED ITEMS THEREFORE VIGANISM IS PART OF VIGHAI TYAG RASTYAG (QUIT ALL ANIMAL BASED PRODUCTS) Considering above fact true Jain's should appreciate concept of veganism and congratulate them for spreading message of Mahaveer swami all throughout world I am ready to discuss on any platform since I have understood and experienced miraculous benifits of 100% VIGHAI TYAG,RASTYAG ALSO VEGANISM since several years Also again request all to refer atichar sutras on Animal Creulty On mere baseless fears apprehensions we should not blindly oppose veganism with baseless logics and arguments I am ready to discuss on any platform Pradeep Shah Mumbai 9096697773

You're very true Pradeep , this Admin has put the Image of Jainism on Stake

@@natureslawdietsystem3235 pradip ji jay jinendra परमात्मा महावीर प्रभू की यही सिख है विगय त्याग। पर विगन बनाने वाले, उनका प्रचार-प्रसार करने वाले अगर गलत सोच रखकर ( may be bad intention) ये काम कर रहे है तो वह विगन का मार्केटिंग हो जायेगा ....इधर विगन का प्रचार...उधर गाय बैल...कत्तलखानेमे।

@@BhavyaRādhaKrsnadās यह एक सोच-विचार उन्होंने रखा है जो जैन धर्म को जानकर, जीवनयापन करते है वह अपने बुद्धि से सोच-विचार करते है " पन्ना समिख्खा धम्मा " प्रभू महावीर कहते है...अपने बुद्धि से धर्म जानकर ,आचरण करो ना किसी के कहने पर

प्रभू महावीर के चरित्र ग्रंथ मे...जब गृहस्थी थे तब ध्यान ओर तप पर ही स्थिर थे ....जो सामने आया उसे ग्रहण करते थे । तब भी मति, श्रुत और अवधि ग्यान से परिपूर्ण थे . जब दिक्षित होकर विचरण करने लगे तब जादा तर तप किया करते थे बहोत ही थोडे दिन अन्न ग्रहण किया जो मिलता....उसिको स्वीकार करते थे

We have nowhere supported this, we have cleared this point in the video.

@@JainMedia you have not, founder of amul himself said dairy industry isn't sustainable without beef and meat industry which is why he was against ban of beef.

@@JainMedia Please refer Vighai Tyag and Rastyag sutras also atchar sutras on animal cruelty then tell us how can we ever dare to consume animal milk Please understand super science of Bhagwan Mahavir, talking of मोक्ष and consuming दुर्गतिकारक diet Real pitty Because of grossly wrong diet most Jain's are seriously diseased like any others, please understand super science of Bhagwan Mahavir Swami understand apply and experience miraculous benifits

@@natureslawdietsystem3235 absolutely correct

@@JainMedia ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jYhxFyOizPg.html

Itna atche se samjhaya fir bhi samaj ni aayaa laatoo ke bhoot bato se nahi mante

Bhai konsa jain h tu kaha se padha hai .. vighay me to tel b aata hai .. tune uske baare m nahi btaya .. oil industries par bhi ban kara .. without oil khana khaya kar .. oil haris body m bhi use na kiya kr .. aadha adhura gyaan leke aa jate h

@@shubhjain4553 bhai@nature's law & diet system ne toh iski maa ka dudh bhi nahi Piya hoga vo bhi torture Krna hota hai🤣🤣🤣🤣

Vighai tyag jitna maine padha hai woh sirf curd ban karta hai milk nahi kyuki curd meh living organisms hoteh hai.

@@idgaf0099 अपनी परिवारीश का परिचय मत दो

Convince ho bhi kaise paoge aapko future dikhta nhi .. or jo dikhana chahta hai unhe galat saabit kar do

Completely agree. Milk at time of our tirthankars was a very different story. We did not use so much milk! Male calves were kept for work on fields. Now its in everything with plenty of cheese paneer cream mava mithai ghee... shops full of it & shelves full of it. It has been commercialized & industrialized. And dairy owners even gaushalas cannot economically raise cows & their calves even male calves upto the time they die. They will get bankrupt or the milk will be too too expensive. Plus hormones & antibiotics are pumped in to meet growing milk demands. Cows suffer horribly as today they are overmilked & their baby calves kept at distance away from them so their milk can be given to humans. It is cruel to take away a calf's food & bonding with its mother. All gaushalas also often just give away baby male calves & of course those people whom they give them away to, take them for slaughter. The male baby calves are killed for your milk demands. Cows feel love for their babies & emotional pain just like us. They cry for their babies. They are helpless as we steal their milk. They are intelligent & sentient they know a person is milking them not their baby. Vegan is the way for Jains today to follow nonviolence & ahimsa. We cannot fool ourselves & deny the cruelties of constant pregnancies & deliveries where after the mother cow has given birth to her baby she cannot love & bond freely & her male babies are killed. Unless as Jains we reduce milk consumption drastically (which is really not possible so it may be better to stop totally) to only half a cup from a cow daily using it for medical or religious purposes in very small quantity only, we will be stealing the milk that should go to her baby. What's the point of saying gaumata & never letting her be a true mother after forcing her biologically to have constant pregnancies! Pray 🙏 that we Jains do not continue this cruelty. We may keep them as family but not to take from them nor steal the milk that belongs to their babies. This is not about westernization nor is it a scam. Some commercial people will misuse this movement just how China makes & sells statues of our Gods, but that doesn't mean us praying to statues is commercial. No we are not brainwashed when we stop dairy, we have seen the cruelties that cows & calves suffer. Please go vegan for our gaumata. And today our relationship to animals can change from bondage & cruelty to letting them live free. We have to work for a living but no don't confuse the logic. Animals are slave labour which is not ok in humans too. People doing cleaning jobs manual jobs are making their choices with dignity. Everything we did before we cannot continue. Sati, child marriage, child labor, all cannot be kept just because we did it for years. Let us Jains update the consciousness to true ahimsa.

@@ameetasanghavishah3977 accurately explained!

@@ameetasanghavishah3977 excellent

THE TRUTH ABOUT DAIRY. SHARE THIS VIDEO. FACTS 1. Male calves abandoned or sold for slaughter by dairy farmers. Gender Imbalance Statistics (Livestock Census 2012) Buffalo: 15% Male, 85% Female (Buffaloes produce 55% of milk in India) Cow: 35% Male. 65% Female (Cows produce 42% of milk in India) 2. Separation of a cow from her baby A 2017 FIAPO study in 451 dairies found that 24% of calves were permanently separated from their mother immediately after birth. 3. Forceful and Abusive Impregnation Cows/Buffaloes give milk only for 8-12 months after their calf is born. To ensure contionous supply of milk the dairy farmers impregnate them forcefully as early as 2 months after she has given birth to her calf so that she give birth to another calf nine months later. They are impregnated by Artificial Insemination or Forceful Mounting by bulls. 54% of India’s breedable cattle (704 lakh animals out of1305 lakh animals) were impregnated by artificial insemination in 2015-16 according to Ministry of Agriculture and Farmer’s Welfare Data. 4. Calves denied their mother’s milk Cow’s milk is for baby calves, not human beings. A calf will drink its mother’s milk for 9-12 months before being weaned, A 2017 FIAPO study found that calves were weaned off their mother’s milk at the age of 3 months are under in 74% of the 451 dairies surveyed. 5. Oxytocin A 2017 FIAPO study found the illegal and indiscriminate use of oxytocin in 47% of the dairy farms surveyed. When injected with this hormone, the cow experiences severe stomach cramps similar to labour pains for hours. 6. Milking Machines Milking machines are painful and cause redness and swelling of the teats. They damage the delicate teat canals of the cows and cause painful infections like mastitis. 7. De-horning and Disbudding The cattle experience extreme pain during and after the procedure is done to remove their horns. No anaesthesia is given even by vets. It is done so that they can’t fight back when they are being abused and beaten. 8. Nose-roping Pulling or twisting the rope exerts pressure on the extremely sensitive nasal septum, causing the animal pain but makes it easier for handlers to move them about. In addition to the initial pain of piercing, nose ropes cause cattle chronic pain and injuries. According to a recent study, moderate to severe injuries in the nostrils were noticed in 62% of cattle. 3% lesions bled continuously and 44 % had pus discharge. 9. Pre-mature death The natural lifespan of cattle is around 20-25 years. At 4-7 years of age the cows stop producing sufficient milk due to their constant abuse. At this point, they are no longer profitable to maintain and hence they are abandoned or sold for slaughter. When sold for slaughter, cattle are jammed into overcrowded trucks and transported in a journey that can last many days to places where they will finally be killed. The milk revolution is the reason for the pink revolution. India is the largest producer of milk in the world. This has also meant India becoming the 2rd largest exporter of beef and 5th largest producer of leather in the world, which is also an environmental disaster in its own right due to the water pollution it causes (eg. Ganga river pollution) among other aspects of environmental degradation. Please note: Human beings do not need milk to survive as they can get all their nutrition from plant based sources. In fact, in nature no animal drinks the milk of another species. You can try to dairy alternatives like soya, peanut, coconut based milk alternatives among others. Watch the Full 12 minute Documentary Link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-30bCIsh3oh8.html Live and Let Live. Go Vegan.

Great questions, I am sure he won't answer you because he knows he has made the video without any research or data :) please update if he replies to all the questions

@@YashDoshi89 bhaiya mehul bhaiya will surely answer it

Thank you for putting across relevant questions in such a detailed manner. I sincerely hope through honest dialogue and discussion, better sense will eventually prevail in the Jain community. The change has already started. :)

Im so glad there are people out there who have logical reasoning & willingness to counter question instead of saying 'great video' 'good topic' 'thank you for bringing this out' just because it is a channel on our religion. Preachings go through lot of manipulation over the ages. It is time people stop following the herd & think sensibly because that's what our religion is all about.

@@YashDoshi89 Then enlighten everyone with your knowledge , how being "Vegan" will help in cows not getting slaughtered more???? And BTW, if you had cared to go through his entire video ( Which i am damn sure, you haven't), he has answered all of his questions.... May the wisdom prevail..

मिस्टर चंदन मुझे लग रहा है कि आप को वीडियो बराबर सुनाई नहीं दीया वरना ऐसी बातें आप नहीं करते। जब वीडियो में स्पष्ट रूप से कह रहा है कि धर्म प्रेमी संदेश में बहुत विस्तार से बताया गया है फिर भी आपको अपना ज्ञान बांटने में रस है लेने में रस नहीं है

@@jeevanbhanushivir818 आपको भी सुनना चाहिए कि वीडियो में सिर्फ ek taraf दिखाया गया है.. Bhagwan और राजा के time alag था.. अब अलग.. Bahut परिवर्तन है उस समय और अब..

This vegan trend wants us to curb consumption of milk products in turn will lead a farmer or a person earning money through these means to send these cattle to slaughter house because why they will keep them and spend money on them. This in turn would be consumed by these non veg people. So this is what they want. They want Indian traditions and religious culture to destroy so that they can succeed in their own means. We already have seen what happens to the nature when more animals are slaughtered. We already seen nature side effects across the world who are major consumer of non veg items. this will happen in India ahead if this kind of mentality prevails.

@@dhavanshah6126 if you think jainism was also only a trend and our tirthankars had conspiracies out cannot say anything about you, secondly even if you or you do not consume dairy cows are going to be slaughtered no matter what you do every cow and buffaloe ends up in a slaughterhouse even if you pay rabaris for milk they abandon and sell calves to slaughterhouses cannot lie longer just for our desires

@@dhavanshah6126 In the first farmer purchase the cow for Milk. Then do the cruelty to get the milk in unethical way. Further milk is a baby product. Milk is made from cow's blood. How a Jain can consume Cow's Milk intended for cow's calf. Are we the children of cow? So Milk is Vigahi item in Jainism.

​​@@dhavanshah6126 first of all.. Economy can't be superior to cruelty ... Secondly , 20 years ago from now, use of cell phones, wally talky, radios , Nokia, etc were extremely popular.. Did the advent of new smart phones snatch jobs from the workers and manufacturers? In fact with gradual change they shifted to new work fields.. Similarly, with an increase in demand of Veganism. Farmers will leave their old jobs and start working in new vegan centred jobs. Plz man have two brain cells to understand it

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JqfnWqy2orY.html

Ahimsa milk is a myth

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Right

I’m jain and i’m ashamed of this video being jains we should decrease suffering rather than promoting it!

Qa galat bola yeh bhi btaona comment me hi

@@akshitajain6306 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jYhxFyOizPg.html

You are right

You are a perfect example of today's Jain, our Jainism clearly calls dairy as vighai so if we are a true Jain we cannot consume dairy especially in today's generation where there is more torture in dairy industry than in the meat industry.

@@jaychheda4250 so to prevent those 100 cows from going to slaughter house you continue to support dairy industry which will produce lacs of new cows and then kill them? So you are okay to protect those 100 cows but not protect the lacs of new ones that are being artificially impregnated why we are chatting here and every second a cow is being slaughtered, congrats 50 animals were slaughtered by the time I completed typing my comment. So who is responsible for them? Vegans or Jains ? What do you think?

@@YashDoshi89 no torture for cow

@@jaychheda4250 I hope you are doing well. Yes, I am aware of the fact that inorder to PROTECT food grains, you spray pesticides and which results in death of rodents(mice, rats, etc.) So it is a preventative measure. By no means I am saying that it doesn't involve killing. But the killing is not direct. The rodents, insects have a chance to stay alive if they don't come near the crops. It is not direct killing. At the end you eat because you want to survive. In the process, try to minimize the harm to other. Coming to your next point about. "because we do not use bullocks for plowing, they end up in slaughter houses and because we drink and use milk products they are saved from slaughter houses" is I think incorrect. We use milk and its products because it tastes good. Humans do nothing unless they see a profit. Because we need milk, we need cows. So we artificially inseminate the cows. Then after that if the calf is a female then it will be used for milking later, otherwise the male calf will be sent to a slaughter house, where they would be raised to a certain age and then slaughtered. Another thing, inorder to raise a cattle you need to feed hay, grains to the cattle. This grain was sprayed with insecticide and pesticide to protect it from rodents etc. So now you have increased the killing of rodents, one for grains you eat directly and another for cattle grazing. Also, do you think the cows lactate all the time? No, they are inseminated cruelly and given injections to increase their milk productivity, which decreases their life. And it is done so as to meet the world demand of milk and make milk cheaper. Just check how much would an absolute cruel free milk would cost. It would be much expensive. Do you really think, that the main use of cows is for the milk? It is for the beef in the western countries. Just like our staple diet is roti, sabji, daal chaval, their is beef burger and other beef products. And India is the 4th largest beef exporter. So can you see the chain, if you don't need more milk, you don't need to inseminate the cow and you don't need to send the cows to slaughter houses. Because cows naturally would make offsprings at a much lower rate. Also, India is among the top 5 leather producing countries. I wonder where does that leather come from. At the end what I am trying to say is that, anything you eat and use has a life cost, environmental cost associated to it in these technologically advanced times. It is how we minimize that cost. And also in my previous comment I had mentioned "No / limit harm".

Very well said bhai👍🏻

आपकी बात सही है, लेकिन कुछ लोगों ने तो दूध पीने को ही खून पीने का नाम दे दिया है और वो चाहते हैं कि सभी लोग दूध पीना ही बंद कर दे.. समस्या Process में है तो उसे ठीक करना चाहिए न कि हम Product को ही अपने जीवन से निकाल दे

@@JainMedia tyaag.. Yahi hai jain dharm ki buniyaad.. Agar aap galat dikhne par uska tyaag nhi kar sakte Toh aap kya jain dharm samjhogey.. Jainism ke niche galat dharm mat promote karo

@@JainMedia samasya aapke khopde main hai.. Aapko doodh ki badi laalsa hai bhai.. Thodi bhi nature/prakriti ki samajh nhi hai Aapko.. Bas RU-vid pe views ke liye dharm ke aadey kuch bhi bolte ho.. Doodh baccho ka ahar hai.. Badey insaan ko doodh ki koi necessity nhi hai..

@@JainMedia veganism par video banana, usse conspiracy batana aapko aasaan laga par doodh ke liye joh aapko samasya lag rahi hai uska hal dhoondna aapko mushkil laga Toh aapne aasaan kaam kar Liya.. Kaamchor kahi ke

किसने बनाया ये रूल? ये किसी औरत के साथ भी कर सकते हैं?

No with the permission

Is this an argument??? Every species on this earth has a role to play.... Btw how would non consumption or adoption of veganism will help remove the menace of Dairy Industry??? Answer if you have

Only muslim people take cows to katlakhana, in my area till now every truck carrying cows for slaughter were owned by muslims, neither hindu not jain can take them for slaughtering.

@@darpanchheda2465 by reducing the consumption of milk the demand of milk and the diary industry reduces which means less torture to cows and discarding Male calfs sent to slaughter houses Got it

@@PhilozoicT doesn't that mean you are even sending milk cows to the slaughter house.. As their milk is not required.. Why waste money on taking care of them..

अपनी बूढ़ी माँ की सेवा करना कर्तव्य है , लेकिन बड़े होने के बाद उसका दूध पीना? वैसे ही गाय न तो हमारी माँ है न उसका दूध हमारे लिए आता है तो वो हमारा कैसे? दूध बेचने वाला मार्केटिंग नहीं कर रहा? वीगन तो नहीं बोलते बाजार का खाओ । फल सब्जी अनाज मे सब मिल जाता है

I felt sick to my stomach the day I got to know about KHALBACHA. Insan or girne layak nahi raha. Ye lowest hai.

I hope so

no one can live healthy without milk ghee...taking vit b12 vit k2 tablets

Jain vegan and I think What he speaks is bull shit

First see full video and understand ...then post your comment.

He spoke beyond logic. That is truth. Ofcourse truth is hardly understood.

It's like ek cruel boss hai jo apne employee se zyada kaam karwa raha hai jo uske health ko impact kar rahi hai .. To hame kyaa karnaa chahiye 1)employee ko bol do job se nikal jaao and now u r of no use.. OR 2) Employer ko samjhaao aur uski cruelty band ho uspe dhyaan do.. Obviously option 2 is better... Vaise hi cow ki employment chin ke use slaughter house bhejne se achaa hai ham cruelty pe focus karke us dishaa me kuch kare

@@jaychheda4250 Cow ko hum khud zabardasti pregnant karke paida karte hai, taaki woh dundh de paye and bachda bhi. Aur employee apne marzi se kaam karta hai and yahape cow ki koi marzi nahi chalti.

जो शक्ति हमें पलtती है वही शक्ति सभी जीवो को पलtती है हमें तो बस उनका शोषण बंद करना है पहले कृत्रिम गर्भाधान बंध करवाइए उनका प्राकृतिक तरह से रहने दीजिए​@@jaychheda4250

You are right Satyam, that the cruelty has increased, but think if we stop buying milk and milk products what will happen then? If we stop asking for good milk where will the remaining cattle go? We need to consume good pure milk and milk products which either are cruelty free or are from local livestock farmer so that we give importance to calfs and buffaloes.

Old cow's does not always end in slaughter house they are useful as well as they produce cow dung and urine. And there are goushalas holding more livestock animals then slaughter houses have. We just need to preserve what we currently have and support in consuming milk products so that we can save cow's and buffaloes. And now about birth which many livestock farmers do not use, but there can be a demand for cow welfare and awareness program from public and government to make everyone understand why naturality is important for a cow to give birth.

@@dakshjain4626 bro I advice you to see a big picture- we have to promote veganism along with animal rescue ,.. In the reality I don't any perfect answer but I am searching for .. I think we (who wants to do good work ) should gain power and rule the world by own way

Exactly, no one wants to talk about that

If milk is not taken then it is torturing for cow

@@prithvirajheralage9291 what did cows do before humans started taking their milk? You guys find a bullshit reason for everything to support your dairy consumption.

@@YashDoshi89 cow calls man to Remove milk. You people find reason that this is wrong and you are right

As shravaks, no matter what we do, there will be hinsa. The objective is to reduce this hinsa as much as we can. I believe in co-existence. If we consume cow milk, can we do our bit by taking responsibly of 1 cow for her lifetime to be healthy, non-torturous & ensuring that when she is no more fit to provide milk, she isn't killed. The least we can do 🙏🏻

E pap no samarthan kare chhe... samjhaaye chhe?

kyaa kholi? aap vegan thi kya pahale ?

My friend does a calf takes birth from milk as you said said that eating eggs is justified by this logic.

Nor chicks take birth from unfertilized eggs

Egg is non veg because chicken comes from egg

There are 2 types of eggs fertilized and unfertilized. The eggs that people eat are unfertilized eggs. There is no chick in unfertilized eggs. Many birds and reptiles remove unfertilized eggs from time to time. So we are not killing any chick it's just like milk where we are not killing anyone.

Pranam Plz tell me one thing, our ancestors used to have cow’s and ox as pets which were like family members. And most of houses in villages still have them. They use their milk for their family members. That time also if someone have extra cows then he used to sell that extra milk into market. Does this amounts to cruelty on animals ? If yes then were our ancestors were cruel ? I agree milk demand has increased due to increase in population and using injections and selective breeding is cruelty on animals and wherever we see we should stop such kind of act. But not drinking milk and making a cow unuseful would make her go to slaughter house. U will make ur child to drink milk becoz it contains calcium which would make ur child bones strong or u would make him take calcium talbets to avoid cruelty in cows ? Today we are blindly saying that ancestors were wrong but they way of living were much more peaceful that that of today. Do u think stopping of milk will stop sending cows to slaughter house and stop beef export ? After all cow’s are vanished then slaughter house will get closed off ? No my friend after that they will start some other propaganda and focus will shift on some other species. Who knows next species could be our grand childrens. So my friend our ancestors were not mad to follow such things, so believe them and keep yourself out of such false propaganda.

@@hiteshjain5133 milk revolution is the propoganda. I spoke to my grandmother. They had (to be more clear-owned) lot of cows and buffalos at home. But they never drank their milk. It was only kept for special occasions and that too in a rich zamindars house or gave it to infants in a situation in which breastfeeding was not possible due to some issue with mother. Consuming milk everyday is the result of milk revolution and propoganda which we indians are sadly following thinking that its our tradition. Vegans treat cows as mother buffalos as mother chickens as mother everything is equal to mother-hence we dont wanna harm. Veganism was supposed to be an indian concept of ahimsa but sadly we are influenced by the Western mindset and give priority to addictions instead of treating animals as god and selflessly loving them.

@@hiteshjain5133 lord krishna would release the tied calves so that they would drink their mothers milk. And gopikas would complain to lord Krishna's mother because if the calves drink their milk they would not have anything to feed their children. So would you say lord krishna is doing wrong? Would you say that he is doing propoganda? Thats what we vegans are trying to do. We have enough evidences even in our scriptures to say whats right and wrong. Its just the perspective that needs to change. If i had children i would feed them with breastmilk to whenevr it is required or borrow breastmilk from another human to feed the child if I cant give. I would feed them nutritious plant based calcium and protein sources and not tablets. because milk is not the only calcium source that we humans have. Please note that we vegans donot take tablets for calcium but we eat wholesome foods like sesame which contains calcium.

@@hiteshjain5133 I'm not disrespecting my ancestors by condemning practices such as sati or untouchability. In the same way I'm not disrespecting them by following veganism. Civilization wouldn't happen if we dont use our brain, emotions and think out of box.

@@shivaniputtabakula795 being vegetarian was indian concept. if u thing by drinking milk u r harming cow, then u should not have vegetables also their also there are many jeev, u cant drink water becoz in a single drop of water there are many jeev,. Concept of ahimsa is very much misunderstood in todays world. Jain dharm says whereever possible u should avoid hinsa, but things that are necessary for a human being to live must be done. plucking fruits from trees accounts to hinsa and u can also say that we are taking a so called child of tree, drinking water there are many bacteria, when pulses are cultivated it amounts to many kinds of hinsa, but all these things are necessary for a human being to live so we have to do all this kind of hinsa. veer phrabhu said wherever possible u should avoid hinsa. In potato, onion and other jameenkand there are infinite jeev and this is not only told in our aagam by mahaveer prabhu 2500 yrs back but also researched and proved by science. but this jameenkand can be avoided, becoz these things are not necessary for a human being to live. Veganism was never supposed to be indian concept of ahimsa, the western mindset made this propaganda by terming the name similar to vegetarian to confuse people. In olden times also people in India followed vegetarian meals but consumed milk and other dairy products. Today we are very much influenced by western media and we term our rituals and our way of living life as outdated and unorganised, without being understanding the depth of the concept, isn`t it ??

@@deepanshujain1735 No limiting the dairy option is not permenant solution but creating more gaushalas which will provide its milk to jain households and temples is the only permanent solution

You are very much bright

क्या गाय भैंसों की दूध के व्यापार की वजह से गाय भैंसों पर अत्याचार होते हैं या वो मारी जाती हैं? 1. गाय भैंसों या पशुओं के दूध का व्यापार क्यों होता है? उत्तर : पता नहीं कब से मनुष्यों ने पशुओं / जानवरों / प्राणियों के दूध को पीना शुरू किया इसमें बकरी से लेकर ऊंट तक के दूध को पिया जाता है लेकिन सबसे ज्यादा गाय और फिर भैंस का दूध पीया जाता है ये मानकर की दूध से ताकत आएगी खासकर अपने आप को शाकाहारी कहने वाले लोगों में ये मान्यता है कि जानवरों का दूध उन्हे शक्ति देगा ( शायद ही कोई व्यक्ति गाय का दूध पी कर सांड या भैंस का दूध पी कर पाड़े जैसी ताकत वाला बना हो) 2. एक गाय भैंस को दूध कब आता है और कब तक आता है? उत्तर: एक गाय या भैंस या कोई भी स्तनधारी माँ को दूध तब आता है जब उसे बच्चा हो और तब तक आता है जब तक उसका बच्चा उसके दूध पर ही जीवित हो (अमूमन करीब 6-8 माह तक ) याने ये प्रकृति का नियम है कि दूध हर माँ को उसके बच्चे के लिए ही आता है |

Even if people stop drinking milk, making leather will still be legal and cows will still be slaughtered for leather.. how is that related over here?

@@rashikothari8748 Good Point The leather industry goes hand in hand with Milk Industry. The milk industry provides the leather industry with the male baby calves and old mother cows to be slaughtered. Hence providing them with "Raw Materials". I agree that making leather will still be legal, but at least we will stop supporting them with our actions and help reduce the suffering. There will never be a world with zero suffering, but that doesn't justify suffering caused by us which is to 1. Forcefully breed animals 2. Force feeding them a diet which will make them produce more milk 3. Give them antibiotics, steroids 4. Separating babies from their mothers 5. Eventually killing babies and old mother cows 6. Repeat 1 to 5

It has just rubbed you in vary badly and exposed your hypocrisy... That's it.. Stope being a "Woke".. 🙏

जानवरों पर अत्याचार हो रहे हैं यह वास्तविकता है, हम भी इसका विरोध करते हैं लेकिन यहाँ पर हमारा विषय अलग है.. बाकी इससे ज्यादा तो हिंसा खेती में होती है अन्न खाना कोई नहीं छोड़ रहा 🙏

If ur comparing that kheton mein bhi hinsa hoti hain but the intensity of pain is not that much as compared to the intensity of pain that’s going in the treatment of cows - and let me tell you one thing the concept of veganism has come from Jainism from the word VIGAI- when u leave all Dairy products - and in Uttarayadhan Sutra bhagwan says if we tie animals and treat them badly for our benefit it is a sin - I think you have been pressurized by dairy Jains and sadhus who consume milk to open this topic because they are not ready to leave their rigidity and that’s why they are going against veganism…Our Lord says depending on the situation use ur vivek and seeing the present painful situation use ur vivek and don’t contribute on hinsa rather than blindly following ur ancestors

You as a Jain would not go to this extent and label vegans as shadyantaratists- you should in fact support the vegans who are actually emphasizing on the term compassion as laid down by LORD mahavir and rather than having a rigid and a narrow mind have a broad view and support all Those who are being instrumental in carrying forward Ahimsa in every field - ur channel just focuses on labeled Jains and u all judge other non Jains and criticize them - that’s not daya or humanity -

@@JainMedia are you a real jain? Do you truly admire Mahavira's principle? I doubt that. If you still consume dairy products despite being aware of animals suffering in dairy industry then you shouldn't not talk about non-violence and compassion bcoz that will be hypocrisy!!

@@JainMedia क्या एक इन्द्रिय जीव और पन्च इन्द्रिय जीव में कोई फर्क नहीं होता???

Bhai you are from the second category of person. You have become a target of this propaganda which is eyeying upon destroying the agriculture industry of India. 24 carrot gold kabhi bhi acha nahi hota. Isi tarah khaane me agar aap dugdh padartho ko apni plant based diet ke sath nahi include karoge toh 24 carrot veganism aapki sbhyta ko nirbal bana dega.

Veganism is an absolute nonsense... Think about it and you would know about it

Pehle video dekho phir comment karna....

@@bharathjaln8803 i hope aapko 'could', 'possibly', 'might', in words ka meaning pata hai. Anyways maine video dekh liya hai.

Jain scriptures are based upon all knowing bhagwan mahavir .anything contrary is wrong. No body can be complete ahinsak. Only siddha parmeshthi are complete ahinsak. It is relative benefit and loss of hinsa ahinsa. Cows are not killed becuse of milk They are killed becuse people eat meat.

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Very shameful.. A Jain Channel promoting cruelty and death of cows and buffaloes. He is not explained anything truth but support pain and suffering of all innocent animals they are torture and slaughter only for your milk.

Yes veganism is superior than vegetarianism. You're a jain so you should know

@@abcxyz7192 kisne bola nonveg dudh se kis janwar ki hatya hoti h

@@abcxyz7192 dudh se koi animals nahi marta h

@@abcxyz7192 agar gayo me se dudh nahi nikala jata h to gaye bhimar bhi ho sakti h aur ye me nahi khud doctor khate h

@@abcxyz7192 aur bachda 1 than ya 2 than piyega bace 2 than ka to use ho hi sakta h

Veganism is an utter BULLSHIT... I am damn sure , he isn't that fool to become one....!!!

Milking is not voilence

@@prithvirajheralage9291 milking is not violence but the dairy industry is.

He is not denying that! The way cattle is treated is the problem but our ancestors had a system in which milk was extracted. Not just this even dairy brands who promote they don't use any cruelty on animals but use machines in the name of hygiene for milk extraction. How is this not cruel! What he is emphasising in the video is that this people who promote veganism (not all but majority) have nothing to do with ahimsa, they are cashing on people's empathy towards animals. Their hidden agenda is to put them in slaughter house. The problem is the execution of milk extraction not milk.

Veganism is a hollw idea with dangerous motives

Should we completely boycott milk? Was Krishna, maharana pratap, Shivaji wrong? And what you think about artificial Meat advertisement by vegans? Vegan Chicken Advertisement etc they made...

no we should try to get the dairy products from the local villagers who without cruelty provide us dairy product ,and as very truly said by Mehul bhai that if we have a headache then we don't cut our head from the body instead we take medicine, so just like that if we feel for animals who are cruelly treated we must boycott such big dairy companies and stop use of packed milk and should consider local people for fullfilling our need for diary products and there every proceess we can see as they normally provide us with best quality milk and most of them are very caring towards their animals.

I am not against milk,, I am against the process from the milk coming.. I love God Krishna, But after the white revolution, The dairy industry cross the limits of crualtlity,,.. The fact is that India is the one of the biggest exporter of beef.. So be logical.. Question- 1.what the dairy do with male calf 2. What happened to old cow ,when she not able to produce milk. 3. Cow is not coming naturally they are forced to give birth by insemination, .. Hare Krishna

खेती में तो इससे ज्यादा हिंसा होती है, जीवों की size छोटी होती है तो इस तरह का विरोध नहीं होता बस

प्रणाम विरोध नहीं चर्चा है, और महत्वपूर्ण है ताकि इस चर्चा के अंत में फल स्वरूप हम कुछ सही निर्णय ले सके आपने खेती मैं जीव हिंसा का आंकलन किया हो तो , कितना चारा खा कर, कितना पानी पीकर 1ltr दुध मिलता है ❗

Milk revolution के बाद ही गाय का दूध का इतना उपयोग हो रहा है पहले दूध के उपयोग की मात्रा दवाई रूपी होती थी और आज पेट भरने और पौष्टिकता के लिए हो रही है Plain milk, Cheese, Paneer etc.. दूध का पचना बहुत ज्यादा कठिन है आप किसी भी Food scientists से पता करें और hybird गाय दूध से हो रही बीमारियों से श्रावक साधु को बचाएं A2 Curd, A2 ghee (मतलब सिर्फ desi गाय का दही और ghee ही चलता है)

100 grms groundnut से 1ltr doodh बनता है या 500 ml दही भी , उसमे jo प्रोटीन और न्यूट्रिशन मिलेगा वह अच्छा होता है vs Hybrid गाय से

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Uske bare me already keh liya hai, jain goshala bana rahe hai har jagah jaha gayo ko koi pida nahi hoti

@@aryajain5311 lekin bhainso ka gaay ko ko toh maata maankar besahara chod dete hai kya kabhi bhains ko gaay ki tarah awara firte dekha hai ? Kyu nhi dekha kyuki bhainso katalkhane bhej diya jaata hai

@@tarunsinghvi1683 bhai koi bhi businessman gaay ko mata samajkar nahi chodta, Jain Jivdaya Samaj Gaay bhains bakri sabko paise dekar katalkhane se chudwake gaoshala me bacha ke rakhti hai

Baat gayo ki nhi bailon ki ho rahi hai... Goshala banane se kya... Aur kitna bna lenge... Kya gay bhens ko jo artificially pregnant kiya jata hai... Wo ek tarah ka rape hi karna to huwa unke sath... Ya aap naturally pregnant huwe gayo ka hi dudh pite hai.....

Aur baat agar aap kisano ki kar rahe hain ki isse ek bade tabke ki roti roji v judi hui hai.... To uss hisab se to kasaiyo ki v roji roti judi hui hai mans bechne se.... Aur kai logo ki v jo murgi bakri palte hai..... Sab kuchh ankho k samne dekh k v as andekha karna aur har tarike se khud ko defend karna sahi nhi.... Ho satvik movement channel hai subhah aur harsh jain ka wo v jain hai aur wo v veganism ko promote karte hai satvik lyfstle k sath.... Main khud vegan ho chuki hun... Pehle sunti thi... Pr derply kvi socha nhi mujhhe dahi aur paneer sabse jyada pasand tha... Mgr jb pratyaksh samne janwaro ki stiti dekhi us din chhod diya... Aur main janwaro ki sewa unke dudh ya kusi mtlb se nhi karti.. usliye krti hun ki bhagwan ne mujhe insan bna k bhejha hai... Sabse se superior aur mujhhe unki sewa k liye sabse tatpar rehna chahiye jinke pass khud k liye awaaz nhi hai... Chahe gay ho bakri ho billi ho ya murgi..... Sewa kisi swarth bhawna se nhi ki jati...

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Not for 8 months only for 8 day

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From March(phalgun) to November(chaumasa ending) 8 months leafy vegetables are not consumed.

He didn't research and self analysed.

Pranam... firstly I will correct you it's Gautam swami ji and not Gautam Buddha 🙏 Cruelty jo ho rahi hai, please stop that...i agree it's wrong...per usko rokne k liye koi steps nhi liye ja rahe...cows milk band karna is not the solution, bulki unka usefulness khatam karke unko slaughter house m bhejne ka prayas ho raha hai...aap vigai tyag karo, but kya cows kaha jayegi vo bhi dhyan rakho...then be vegan....vegan vale meat ko kyu badava de rahe hai...meat kaha se aayega...kya sab artificial baanega?real ya artificial kisne check kiya...kya aapko itni samaj hogi after cooked meat given to you...kya hamare jinshashan m uska bola hai?? Agar ye sahi hota toh Bhagwan ne jarur kuch iska bola hota...per kisi se sunna hai ye kabhi...ek baar Guru bhagwant se baat karke dekho...samaj aayegi... 🙏

@@rahulchopra90 Pranam! the cows that give milk to the thousands of people are artificially insemination, in other words they are raped so that people get the milk because it is impossible to naturally get so many cows to feed the population of India. Then after they are raped, if the child is male then he is immediately sent to the slaughter, if female she is given hormones so that she gets her periods earlier than usual. Slaughter house main toh cows isliye ja rahe hai kyuki they stoped giving milk or they are born as male cows. Now just imagin that the cows are grown so that they give milk and then after they are done, they are killed Cows Kahan jayegi yeh question nai hai, itni cows ko birth kyu Diya ja raha hai yeh question hai, aur answer yeh hai ki unka milk bhi bikta hai and after their life unka mass bhi bikta hai. If they were breading naturally toh koi problem nai hai, but kya tumhe pata hai itni cows artificially born ki ja rahi hai just to fulfill the demand for the milk? If we let all the cows be in their natural state there will not be enough cows to give enough milk to the population. Because there is demand for milk more and more cows are grown (that is why they call is cattle farming because they are not naturally growing cows) I am not talking about the artificial meat as well, that we should not have at all but I am talking about milk that we drink The logic that you are giving is an excuse for many people because quitting butter ghee dahi and other related products is difficult for them (although there are options for all of them now) having things that come out of animals, if you want to drink the milk then buy a cow or rather adopt a couple because that is the only way they can have kids, let it get pregnant naturally, then let the calf drink the milk, and after that extract the extra milk for yourself in the same way as it was done in the time when bhagwan mahaveer and Gautam swamiji were present. This was acceptable and valid then, but now they are produced for milk and meat not allowed to live their life freely. Let the capitalist world do whatever marketing they want, but we cannot be the nimit of what brutality the cows face. People are concerned about they making money by selling vegan substitutes and giving this reason as an excuse to not quit what is actually wrong Also I will have this discussion with my guruji and get myself updated, if he says it's ok to have such milk and related products then I will comment here again but if facts are communicated properly, there are slim chances that my gurudev or any gurudev will allow such a brutal and inhuman act

@@jigarshah7355 pranam....aapne jo kaha m bhi vahi bol raha hu ki cows k sath sahi nahi ho raha hai, per kuch log vegan ban jaye, kya usse ye hona band hoga? Chocolate, biscuit, cakes,sweets etc many vegitarian items m ye sab use hota hai....kya aap sabko vegan banna paoge?nahi....per jo cows k sath galat ho raha hai, usko sabke samne Lao toh sayad kuch asar hoga unke production m, artificial se natural m convert ho sayad... Main point ye hai ki vegan meat aane laga hai, ese substitute ki hame jarurat nahi hai...kya aap usko promote karte ho? Milk and its products we can leave, but why they promotion meat? artificial/real who knows? If artificial, then also new industries will setup and again jiv hinsa .... Agar milk and its products hamare Jain samaj m galat hota toh kya Bhagwan ne aapni vani m bataya na hota? The way it's being produced can be wrong, so we should change that part and not just quiting milk will help us... instead it's promoting cows to non usefulness and cows going in slaughter house... Slaughter house band karvane k liye kyu nahi vegan philosophy vale bolte? And why vegan meat is coming into picture I am sure, agar ye sab aap Guru bhagwant ko batayenge toh jarur sahi answer milega...or m jarur janna chahunga 🙏

It’s not about food at all all maharaj saheb and everyone else does use tea milk etc and to some extent even sweets also

Our religion is just not about food

@@drakshitajain6411 our religion was not about food until now, today's generation has made it that way, Jain Aagam clearly states dairy is vighai, why are we not following it and eating cheese, butter, ghee with two hands? We don't preach about how to behave with humans but we have time to make videos on why veganism is bad? Isn't this a religion of food?

@@YashDoshi89 it’s not about food I’m following 90% of Shravika rules I’m studying our dharam daily don’t have much deep interest in maharaj saheb but I do follow them

@@drakshitajain6411 that is great, but you are the rare exception one, all my friends around in USA and India are all Jains, and everyone opposes me because I follow a Jain+Vegan diet. It is impossible to convince my own parents because maharajsaheb tells them it is okay to consume dairy. I am glad the new generation in the USA is converting to following Jain Vegan and I hope India can do it too

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Very shameful.. A Jain Channel promoting cruelty and death of cows and buffaloes. He is not explained anything truth but support pain and suffering of all innocent animals they are torture and slaughter only for your milk.