Velineon Comparison 2 Pole VS. 4 Pole 

Capacitors not solenoids the braiding around the wires on the four pole is to protect the wires if The wires on the two pole rubbed against the shocks they would wear out too

Cool video, I’m glad you gave the tip about the 4 pole motor not working with the 2 pole ESC. I had a brand new 2 pole motor and ESC that I bought for a failed project a long time ago so I’ve had them on hand for nearly 10 years, and recently a 7 year old 4 pole motor for my slash gave out and I threw the 2 pole one in there.

I like this Velineon Systeme great power

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Why I'm i watching this at midnight

He might want to know the things on the back of the ESC or capacitors solenoids and the reason they're outside is the last longer the cooler you can keep them so by putting them inside the wear out faster. so you might actually want to learn about it a few things before you give advice on what they are

Super informative vid guys and awesome job on the edit/clips added, real fun to watch. Just bought a 4000kv Xerun 4-pole motor for my HPI Blitz, not sure how the rwd's gonna take it!

can you run a 3s lipo on the 2 pole system??

Id kill for any of those brushless motor and esc

What comes in rtr slash 4×4,what ever it is I got hopes of fit the still work system out of trashed slash and bolt in something driveable! Will it work or pipedream

My wires have broke to

Is it just mine or does the 4 pole jolt when it starts? My friend has a 2 pole and its really nice and smooth when starting up. Mine gets moving after about 10% throttle, therefore making it "jolt" when it gets going. Let me know if i should post a video explaining what i mean.

Good info man 👍

I got both..the 4 pole is faster.. all depends on what you wanna do..I'd rather the 4 pole for street and speed but for dirt and etc grab the 2 pole ..

Hi just wondering is there any power difference between the two motors, cheers 😊👍

I bought mine used. I cannot tell for the life of me which motor I have. Wires match the 2 pole, but according to the rebuild kit its the 4 pole.

Traxxas upgraded those three capacitors you say you don't like, that's what caused the fire and why the new one has no issues...

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Clean your damn truck man!!!!!

Which one is faster 2 pole or 4 pole ?

Traxxas sent me a new one no problem..

Capacitors, not solenoids, Plastic braiding not Kevlar, and finally Traxxas's term "waterproof" doesn't mean "submergable". They mean that you can run a hose on it and not get any water in the electronics versus regular water resistant electronics that will get wet just by running it on a damp day.

Dude keep your camera stationary. Your video was making me dizzy af.

thats false everything u said is false

You had a faulty motor

Rookies

2 pole system is garbadge

A 2pole motor has better top end having fewer magnets allows better RPMs. It is also more efficient so for a longer racetrack with longer straights you will have higher speeds at the end of the straights and longer battery life for more voltage near the end of the race. The 4pole has more magnets giving you better torque but its a less efficient design so a 4pole motor is better for shorter tracks and shorter races. Also a 4pole motor is better for larger motors where a 2pole is better for smaller motors though most manufacturers make tiny motors like 28xx 24xx and especially 20xx motors with many poles because a smaller motor has inherently less magnetic strength so more poles makes up for this inherent loss of gauss strength. The 3355x has a totally different inhouse PCB design allowing it to run BOTH brushless and BRUSHED motors and can auto detect the motor type. Our tests (3 EE degree fellows) show the 3355x having more than the 200amp constant and a longer and higher peak amp rating than listed and explains the extra heat. It has higher temp rated OpAmps and lower res capacitors as well. That said the processor (which is what dictates the motor turn limit of an ESC, not the amp rating) cannot work with 4pole motors because it is a slower model, the 3355r has higher resistance capacitors but a faster processor so it can handle the higher hertz required to generate the exponentially higher number of power phases required by a 4pole motor. Therefore a 3355r will actually run a 2pole motor more efficiently than the 2 pole 3355x, although with slightly less amps and shorter burst amp time. All this ends up creating 2 completely different ESCs but with nearly equal performance. ☆BTW, If you are running say a famously powerful AstroFlight brushed Drag motor that will crush the latest brushless motors easily but cannot seem to find an ESC to handle this power hungry lil gem you can pick up the 3355x at RCMart fir $80 and kick brushless butt in a drag race as an AstroFlight Drag can only run for 30seconds or less! But you will win every drag race.

Great video! I had tons of problems with my old 2 pole. On the original version the little cups would break off the ESC. The 4 pole is AWESOME.

Another way to tell the difference of the motors....I believe the old 2 pole is silver metal on the end of the can & the new 4 pole is black plastic on the end.

I was running mr stampede 4x4 vxl brushless and I have had it for 3 plus years and I was just messing around with it and driving it up stuff and it starts to smoke and I don’t know why. Anyone have a answer

Very informative video! Picked up a 2wd slash VXL that “wasn’t running right” for 100 dollars. Turns out it’s the two pole esc and a 4 pole motor! It’s got aluminum front carriers, big bore shocks and a nice proline caliber tire setup!

Get arrma. Send in a fried motor or esc get a new one for free

ACTUAL pros and cons dude? Punch and top speed?

Can you put the 4 pole on a 2wd?

what batteries do run

Those are capacitors on the 4 pole not solenoids. The 2 pole also doesn't have capacitors.

Please take this video down.👍🏻

Jesus with the camera work! I'm cool with free hand but fuck! I thought I was watching a ping pong match!

Those are capacitors not solenoids, helps reduce burst current draw from battery

Thanks for the advise because I wasn't sure if the 4 pole esc would work for the 2 pole motor

Informative!I hate the wires on the 4 pole even if they dont rub on anything.

Dude just had same problem 2020, go figure

Does the 4pole accurate faster

Man clean your trucks 😮

How fast was the 4pole ?????

Nice!

What are the prices and part numbers?

I'm dizzy

Good video no bs gets right to the point. Even love the proof videos of the trucks being chucked into the water . That was classic I got a laugh out of that. Keep up the good work and bash on.

Great review bro. Thanks for the reminder on being able to send Motors & ESC. I'm just getting back into the Hobby from over 7 years, I haven't touched my Rustler vxl or Brand New TC4 till 2022. Still have one brand new old vxl esc motor.

What do you think about castle motor

Great video. Hoping you can help with a question...Should there be difference between the 2 motors if you turn the shaft by hand? My 4 pole version doesn’t turn smoothly, it seems to ‘ratchet’ turn in small increments...is this normal or is mine defective?

dude that shock tower rubbing on there is Not the motors fault. lol

Those are Capacitors. Not celinoids. just FYI.

I wish them fans had a screen guard on them. rocks get in there .