VELMA: How Mindy Kaling Left an Entire Fanbase Crushed! 

I just got commissioned yipeeeee

I got a cookie :}

Im going to college

I passed my university exams

@@ros9764 absolutely great

agreed

I detect no BS in that statement!

Most definitely.

That's it, lads, world peace achieved.

'Hello, Based Department? I would like to inform the size of this W.'

she successfully made the worse reboot ever

Every single characters here are bastardized for no coherent reason. Glad Scooby not included, but that because he completely absent here

She gave them her personality

She's made me look like... NOT a gremlin

@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 They didn't include Scooby Doo here because he's a suitable character for young audiences, only for that decision has already saved him from getting ruined by whoever wrote this abomination.

lmaoooo the jokes get worse you can't imagine! lmao

@MohammedAgbadi You're very generous to even be calling them jokes. It's all statements that miss so often that shooting yourself in the foot by accident is considered funny and an accomplishment Apologies if that came off rudely.

Yeah really, The moment I heard that line, I couldn't help but think this show was essentially one big, monster sized middle finger to not just scooby doo, but to Animation in general from HBO and time-warner.

I actually don't get the joke 😞 Can someone explain it pls?

@@DJefferson_04 From what I know, 420 is maybe related to s e x joke or something, idk, I am not familiar with that kind of joke. Also, 'adults watching cartoons' still a thing until now, but it seems this show's trying to poke fun to those who are still watching cartoons, or is it just a 'plain joke'...

Damn and she’s delusional tbh.

There ain't no privilege like rich privilege! Never had to worry about: Getting into a good college Paying Student debt Paying Medical Bills Paying Dental Bills Paying Mechanic Bills Paying Legal Bills Being Homeless What to do with her parents when they get old Finding a job Financial Stability in 10 years Affording a family Affording a house Affording a car Affording to eat Living in a bad neighborhood Working retail/ customer service Working manual labor jobs Surviving the lack of work from the lock down Not having her voice heard Her dreams dying due to circumstance ...and many more!

@@Adolf-hitler1933 Aren't you supposed to be dead?

Nah, Fred is the most redeemable character because he never pulls this shit on purpose.

And not even good fanfic, the kind that actually does something interesting with the characters, this is the terrible self insert fanfiction that everyone likes to make fun of.

Velma is a Mindy Sue

@@Randomyoutuber-4831 Self Inserts are at least honest about it and use the premise to explicity change canon with an outsiders knowledge. You can do really neat things with that. 90% of all fanfic is garbage, which means 10% of SI fanfics are good.

@@RM_VFX best comment of the night , right here.

And I honestly cannot understand why the characters even found her attractive. Forget about her race and looks, those are absolutely fine (despite the writers' attempts to convince us that they're not fine. I'm talking about all those "Vermin Dinkley" and "you're not one of those hot girls, Velma" jokes). But she's not smart she's not kind. She's just mean. She always tries so freaking hard to humiliate others and bring them down. All the other characters, except her dad, would be better off without her in their lives. She doesn't even grow as a person! At one point she realized how awful she is, but after that she did not change her ways at all! So why are all these characters are attracted to her? What do they see that all the other people don't?

Only consolation is he's getting paid at least. Frank Welker also voiced Scooby in several series/movies.

I mean he chose to take the role, and quite frankly he's probably wishing he wasn't in it at all right now. xD

@@ThePrinceHasArrived but hey, at least he didn't play the role of the new Fred. He doesn't deserve Frank Welker's voice.

@Fishy Haha, it's funny that you say that because personally, I think Fred is the only 'good' part about the show. The few times I've laughed have been at him and I think what really does it is Glenn Howerton, he's got great delivery. All the characters were trashed on, and though they paint Fred as an idiot who can't even take care of himself, he manages to be the only one I can tolerate and get a chuckle out of me. While I originally thought it was somehow even more annoying that they turned him into a feminist, he is still stupid and I love my dumb himbo boi.

@@ThePrinceHasArrived I call it a Jar Jar scenario

Yup. They investing time for this heap rather than continuing good cartoon

I would honestly watch more boondocks, that shit was crazy and epic

We need a petition to switch the priorities on those

There was gonna be a Boondocks reboot...!? MAN--!

@@deltaxeno7807 this is the first I’m hearing about this too

nah they messed our boy fred uup fr

Sobbing crying puking for what they did to my golden retriever himbo 😭

And yet he was still the most badass character in the show, I'd argue, for tackling his hypnotised, gun-wielding father, wrestling with him over the gun and eventually snatching it to club his dad unconscious with it. That takes some serious courage that nobody else had.

FR, he's the absolute opposite of who he actually is

Fred was definitely one of my Favorite Characters and HBO went and Destroyed Fred and my Childhood along with him.

Some artist actually redesigned the Scooby Doo characters once (to see if they could be better than the Velma show) They race swapped most of the cast (pretty sure Velma’s Korean while Daph and Freddy are black) but mostly let the characters keep their OG personalities (while adding a little more dept) They also kept Scooby, and (you’ll be shocked) ACTUALLY gave the darn show a plot!

I agree. If only the writing was good, it could've actually worked.

I agree with this.

@@gigikju9934 Was this Lavendertowne? I thought her hypothetical redesign and plot was super cool.

Ive seen so many redesigns and reimagines that work so well even with race swaps taken heavily into account Mindy and her co-writers and producers just cant write or theyre just mean

Yeah I'm not sure how I'd feel about anyone touching me, let alone kissing me

It would make your brain concentrate about something else maybe? Get your mind off the situation that's causing a panic attack? I don't know about panic attacks, just throwing out ideas

@@osets2117 Thank you for thinking of trying to help, but I have already found good means of management when they crop up. They don't involve being kissed, I tell you that.

@@YourWaywardDestiny I figured going up and kissing a person having a panic attack would be a very bad idea lol

@@osets2117 No. I’ve had panic attacks before. When you have it, it becomes very hard to breathe. Kissing would make it worse. Edit: I guess it varies from person to person, but generally speaking, kissing someone with a panic attack just sounds like a very bad idea lol

And all the sexualization of teenagers throughout the _whole_ show (not just that scene in the first episode and _that_ one episode). I mean, how did they even got away with it?

This show "could have had so much potential"? How? All I see is shit...just pure shit. It's like the show was made to destroy the scooby doo franchise. I literally don't see any redeeming qualities...

Mindy literally admitted to kissing another man without his consent on Conan I agree she's awful. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j_FNMhVd0fw.html

@@arima_song the sexual themes is even worse than euphoria

@@Es_gee yeah, definitely

Exactly, this show oozes "I hated high school".

She's apparently a very messy person (promotes an Indian Velma but has in the past made it known she doesn't want to be known for being Indian, sexually harassed someone on set then threatened others that they'd lose their job if word got out, writes some questionable things about other races and ethnicities, etc)

lmaooo

shh, according to (not racist and totally progressive) mindy, black people can never be rich.

@@aimlessautist Which is ironic when you look at her background.

Daphne also comes from a rich family, but Fred and Velma came from middle class ones I believe

@@helloill672 there was one time (in Mystery Incorporated) that Fred was also in a wealthy family. He was the Mayor of Crystal Cove’s son. That show also had Daphne in a very rich family and Shaggy was definitely upper working class at least

And Daria still have some moment when she shows some sympathy and feeling. But Velma. Is just pure jerk and unpleasantness. She just looks like edgy watpad character that trying to be edgy or smart but fail miserably

@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 You hit the nail on the head.

Mindy’s Velma is Darrhea

@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 La la LA la la--- yeah, Daria would hate this iteration of Velma who she'd probably see as someone who hates literally everything - at least she had actual friends and enjoyed watching TV and writing.

Daria knew she wasn't a role model and never tried to act like. She just didn't think anyone knew what to do with life and resented anyone who acted like they did. This Velma thinks she's right and it sickens me.

@Define Anime Are you talking about the live action movie? Because I'm pretty sure that was it's own universe.

@@laegume its still a scooby doo remake tho i think they just mean she had a similar personalityand velma was still likable, it doesn't make sense to take away an ethnicity's just to give another ethnicity bad rep

@@laegume no I'm talking about the scoob animated movie from 2020

I still don't like Mystery Inc Velma, she was a toxic narcissist asshole toward Shaggy. The old dvd animated movies like Zombie Island have the best Velma that was voiced by BJ Ward, imo. Also, Velma's ethnicity has been changing constantly in these modern adaptations for some reason. She was played by a Japanese American actress in Scooby Doo! Mystery Beings and Curse of the Lake Monster movies, then in Scoob she was turned into Hispanic, and now it's Mindy Kaling being a Velma imposter. But she has always been white in all the past animated movies and shows, so I'll take the old stuff as "canon" over the modern garbage Scooby Doo crap.

@@ryantheanimator1156 to be fair she was... A very terrible person who didn't handle her relationship with shaggy having a best friend other then her well

I will never forgive Scrappy Doo for existing

Scrappy saved the franchise from cancellation. Show would have been over by the third franchise and just anotherforgotten show. But Scrabby brought ratings back up enough they got rid of Velma, Fred, and Daphne. The ratings slid by the end of the season because Scrappy was getting some minor complaints about taking over episodes too much. They brought Daphne back and toned Scrappy down. Most people who dislike Scrappy, only haate the first season he was in and that's because of much of a change it was. But numbers show fans liked him being on the show after the initial change was accepted. Scrappy was preferred to Fred and Velma (at least according to the ratings of the show). But he was not more popular than all three humans, so they brought Daphne back)

@hi hungry i'm dad And you might. But when he came out, he was actually beloved by the majority of the audience. It wasn't until the 90's/00's the hate permeated pop culture as a meme.

I never hated Scrappy I'd love to see him comeback hopefully in an iteration of Scooby-Doo that's actually good.

@@kyleellis1825 I don't know anyone who liked scrappy. The stories were much more entertaining with the whole gang instead of just shaggy, scoob and scrappy...His whole "let me at em" and "puppy power" were just obnoxious and annoying. The problem with the original show was that every story was similar/predictable and you can only tell it so many times before people get bored with it.

I like that you brought up the OTHER good example of completely-invented "adaptation"

Fred says to Velma “I have a disease where I can’t recognize people who aren’t hot…. My doctor says it’s basically sickle cell for rich guys.”. Who thought that was funny? It's not anything like sickle cell which is a serious disease so not only is it not funny, it's offensive.

@@stephenshoihet2590 exactly. Honestly they are including things like race and ilness but its......not real. More like its all a bad joke and not serious at all. But if we said that they would claim they are just woke and we arnt which is likely how they even got it made in the first place

@@kingcockroach. it's like the world as they know it as told by twitter😆 I have to imagine they thought it was funny to go hard on all the stereotypical stuff... i have a great, strange sense of humour and i find most of their stuff just cringy. They've done a pretty good job of making almost every demographic hate the show so that's nice 😂I think that it's been so long now since Hollywood created shows with great characters and interesting stories that a lot of young people don't even know what good shows are. Just give it good visual effects and people are happy and that's the only good thing i've heard people say about Velma: the animation looks great.

It made me rethink my hatered for Scrappy, still hate that runt, but man, not as much

@@JamesTDG Scrappy is only overbearing in his first season. They massively toned him down in the ssecond. With Daphne back on the show as a balance, Scrappy really worked great his last couple seasons. He did save the show from cancelation afterall. We would only have had the first 3 scooby doo cartoons and a couple short TV movies. Scrappy is why the fandom survived long enough to get us stuff like Zombie Island and the Live action movies.

I’ll say one more positive thing: the animators worked really hard to make this look so good! Too bad literally everyone else working on this seems to hate them.

Mystery Inc really shines on the characters and stories, in other words obviously much better than this train wreck of a spin off. I've personally always liked the animation

@@assiaelmabrouki5552 Personally I always enjoyed the What’s New Scooby Doo cartoon. We got to see the gang have interests outside of solving mysteries like Velma being a big fan of hockey or Shaggy being a talented golf player (ok it was technically mini golf) and showcase their talents. I wish we had seen the other interest of the gang In Mystery Incorporated. I don’t really remember the gang talking about individual interests on that series.

That is what I wanted 😭😭😭

But what would they do for season 3 that would be as good or better than season 1-2? The entire story wrapped up on the last episode

@@osets2117 there were originally plans for a S3, so it could be done. The creators talked about it somewhere. But we’ll likely never get it.

Why is it that good shows ALWAYS get abandoned somehow and replaced with train wrecks, ugh... It kinda reminds me when Spectacular Spiderman got cancelled too and was replaced with something bad. I swear

@@user-mAfuNqrSe020x thats because its ok and even preferable to be racist to them, apparently. recently, charlie cheon made a video that talked about this in depth and welp, im glad im not american lmao

@@FruitsChinpoSamuraiG I mean, it's absolutely possible to make actually funny jokes about different races. I watch a pretty diverse group of RU-vidrs who joke about each others races and religions all the time and it's always funny. But this show just doesn't have good jokes, especially when it comes to jokes about races and ethnicities.

@@arima_song oh absolutely, it's just that in many cases it's hidden behind 'jokes' and the same treatment towards everyone else is not permitted at all. I like jokes, just not bullying or hiding behind the 'it's just a joke get over it' when it's bordering on racism (or is straight up racism), and that's for all groups.

@@FruitsChinpoSamuraiG yeah, you're right. I believe that most people can feel this sort of things. When the guys I watch on RU-vid joke about such things, their audience knows very well that those are only jokes. These guys have been friends for a decade and they would never intensionally insult each other. And everyone can see it. When a joke about a race, religion or ethnicity is made in meanspirited, hurtful or insensitive way, you can feel it. And I'm very much against those kind of jokes. But if it was made because of a person's ignorance and if they recognized it, apologized for it and learned from their mistake, I don't really mind it. None of us are perfect and we can't just expect that all the people are well informed about every hurtful topic for every existing group of people. For example, as a person who grew up in Eastern Europe, I can't expect everyone to know that making bad jokes about Gulag is pretty insensitive (since almost all the people from around here have had a relative that was send there). If they weren't intensionally insulting and just weren't well informed, I won't be offended. I'll just inform them and move on. But if they are well informed and if a joke is actually good and was made in good spirits, then even I will laugh at it.

@@arima_song those are all very good points and I agree, about growth and making sure everyone is aware its a joke all in good fun. Funnily enough, here (western Europe) nazi jokes are a nono but goulag / communist jokes are 100% OK unless someone expresses their distaste. In fact, it's often used as an example of jokes that won't offend anyone lol what a joke (aha, get it?)

The scooby fans know the pain of the legacy Halo fans...

I also felt your terrible pain too....

ahhahaaahahaha nahh that's a good one!

That show was a masterpiece.

My personal fave :D

best show ever‼️

“Take it easy son it’s just a drawing.” 😂

Scooby ran when he heard mindy was going to reboot the series

@@yabe-kfptentacultist 🤣

Can't make Scooby dirty if he was not there at the first place

I think they are introducing Scooby in the second season because I watched a channel who reacted to Velma (her videos are the only way I can handle the show) and they (the writers) had it so a part of the lore was the abandoned science project, Project Scoobi. It was a brain swapping experiment... I think I don't like the idea of Scooby being introduced if he's linked to that 😬

@@yabe-kfptentacultist 😂😂😂

I say this every time they introduce a character that is hated by fans of a show series: It can and will be so much worse. Scrappy Doo was the bane of everyone’s existence and dumped on for YEARS after the end of Scooby and Scrappy Doo. Honestly, he didn’t bother me so much. Annoying? Yes. But I knew something that many people didn’t. It could ALWAYS be worse. And here we are some many years later and now we have Velma. Note: I also said the same thing when they introduced Poof and Foop in the Fairly Oddparents. People went on and on and ON about how much they sucked. Poof only said one word “poof” and Foop monologued like a Bond villain. They quickly threw both to the way side. What happened after that? They brought in the dang fairy dog and after getting rid of him after a handful of episodes due to unpopularity, they then introduced Chloe who was by far the worst of the three.

On my scale of 1-5, 1 being hate, 2 being dislike, 3 being neutral, 4 being like, and 5 being love, Scrappy Doo is a 2 because at least he saved the series. Mindy Kaling's Velma, on the other hand, gets a 1 for being an insufferable "know-it-all".

They never deserved it in the first place. That basically asking for validation for existing by simply calling attention to this one aspect of yourself. You can't be someone who happens to be X Y Z who is also a minority. You are just... a minority. You can't exhibit any other traits and you damn sure can't have any flaws whatsoever. They could always create their own stuff but it would never be mainstream at first because it's very specifically niche. Doesn't mean it can't be successful at the niche it fills but it's not the instant success like having your name attached to something already successful. The idea of 'representation' is insulting and disgusting. They never deserved it and never should have allowed it. Now if a character is created that so happens to have those traits IN ADDITION to being an actual person with all the hopes, dreams, virtues, flaws, fears, ups, downs, and everything in between, I don't think anyone would be opposed to that. Sadly that's been soured by all these bad one note caricatures then actual characters.

@@graveyardshift6691 Your logic is so flawed and backwards. Most people wanting good representation ALSO want everything else along with it. It doesn't end at X,Y, or Z. That's how you get shows like Velma to begin with. Are you insinuating that people who are scrutinized by society for unjust reasons don't deserve to be represented properly and treated as normal people when they've done nothing wrong?

@@m.a.k.dynasty4504 That is exactly what I said you goofball. Give us the whole package and not these one note 'can do no wrong because they're a 'protected minority'' garbage tier caricatures. (or 'is everything wrong with society' in the case of Fred.) That is exactly what I am saying. They had a 'hard life' because of this one aspect they feel persecuted for. Boo hoo. You expect me, a straight white male, the most demonized class to exist, to feel any sort of empathy when I am given none? I'm expected to get the fuck over myself because no one is coming to my defense. Why should I do any different for you? Why should I be lumped in as this giant monolith and be judged by the aspects I cannot control then the content of my individual character? You asked that of me during the 'bad ole days' when you WERE actually being hunted in the streets and I agreed to. And now that the 'tables have turned' you don't ask this of me, you demand more. I think it's right of me to look back at you and call you and idiot for mistaking my kindness for weakness. You do not get to treat me as the demon when I agreed to treat you as an EQUAL human per a very reasonable request. That is what most of these 'representation' bullshit fanfictions are about. 99% of them ALWAYS turn out to be some kind of revenge fantasy because 'I had a hard life'. I've seen enough of them to know where they go and they always end up the same way. Representation has been tried and been found wanting. It always results in shit like Velma. Time to ditch it and go back to the old formula where we get the whole package then some garbage one note caricature hailed and celebrated as GREATER then sliced bread. As I also said, they want to write these kinds of stories, don't expect them to break out of their little niche holes because they only represent and very small percentage of the population. Doesn't mean they can't be successful, but they will never reach 'mainstream' appeal because of how niche the subject actually is.

@@user-mAfuNqrSe020x I don't think there's exactly a good or bad way to make representation . If it's included it's just included, people always get so upset about there either being "too much " rep or "not good" rep when really you shouldn't be focusing on it that much

@@graveyardshift6691 🤔uh bro what do you mean? Like I agree with maybe 50% of what you said. But the other half is kinda off for a lot of reasons. Like why cant we just I dont know not give a crap about majorities and minorites? To be more clear we can have diversity without the cringe stuff. Diversity is not bad in a show if written good. Most agree that velma is trash because its clear nobody involved had any idea how to make a good story.

ahahhaa

It's not social anxiety what she is experiencng. It's more like mind control induced conditional hallucinations

Yes, she was mind controlled

@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 then that was a lousy ass way to show it.

Yeah, they watch it so we don't have to, we salute

I do appreciate norvile FINALLY being done with Velma’s BS.

@@Black_Frost212 I agree,though it took far too long and somehow I have a feeling it won’t last long cause that’s how the author rolls

@@krowqueen4497 yeah…but it was definitely nice to see 😅

lmaoooooo that's smart

Half the people bashing on this show said that.

☺️ thankyu😍

Dude, she was always gay lol look at the interviews with the old live action scooby doo. They just couldn't make her actually gay in the past because of censorship

@@plursocks She was as gay as dumble dore was in harry potter. only when it was convenient for the writer to win pandering points on twitter. The character was never gay, even in the live action movies she wasn't gay because like I said she had a love interest named patrick who she was trying to impress, n the cartoons existed before the movie were she also only showed interest in guys. your not gonna change sexual history just because straight characters are straight.

@@ragingnoob3603 how tf were they trying to win twitter points when twitter didn’t even exist?? 💀and 2002 was already homophobic asf. In the 20.2 and 2004 live action movies James Gunn wanted to make Velma gay but he wasn’t allowed to because the studio kept watering it down until it just wasn’t there anymore.

@@user-mAfuNqrSe020x Bisexuals also actually demonstrate a romantic interest in both genders and will comment on both regardless of their current love interest. I see this argument used a lot to try and explain the sudden orientation shift of previously heterosexual characters to their new homosexual personality. It's very weak and doesn't hold up when you apply the 'actions speak louder then words' maxim and view a character's history. This isn't something that just springs out of left field and can be used to deflect accusations of homowashing. This is something that an individual can sense is wrong from an extremely early age. By the time they're as old as the like of Mystery Inc, it's not so much a question of 'am I this' as 'how do I be this'.

Hasn't she always been considered gay though? I feel she's more bisexual than anything tbh

False info. Gigi is not Scooby.

False. He wasn't a lady. He was a military brain transplant blueprint

Thank you! 😁 happy new year!

Thank you!! Can't wait to see your new content!

bisexual people exist dude

@@strangevol5264 This

Apparently, they have been trying to make Velma a lesbian but every time it gets to editing it gets cut. Which is why you see her in no relationship/no love interest. Or if she is, it is a heterosexual relationship. Besides, Mystery Incorporated tried to hint at Velma and another female character, Hot Dog Water, as an interest. Besides Bisexual and pansexual people exist. If this is true, I wouldn't be surprised. Film, animation, and shows, are in the end an industry that wants money. And having LGBT is a plot that is not about LGBT coming of age story getting cut. And not to mention back then when laws and regulations were being made to Regulate what film can show being gay was seen as illegal. While it is not anymore but centuries of discrimination are not something that can be solved easily. Take films adapted from comics for example. While comics may not always have the best LGBT representation there are plenty of them: Red Robin, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Loki, Deadpool, etc. These are pansexual/bisexual characters that have been adapted to live-action films/shows. But can you count a single love interest/relationship that was not straight? No. Because any plans of them were cut or "straight washed". You can have actors, writers, and directors, all up for just gay characters and homosexual relationships but if being gay is not "important" to the story then it gets cut or "straight washed". Margot Robbie has been pushing Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy's love story for the big screen and quotes "I have been pushing that for years... I cannot tell you how hard I have been pushing for that." There are probably many iconic characters that have been attempted to be depicted in a homosexual romance but before they can make it to your screen it was cut and maybe even straight-washed. Even nowadays you see LGBT theme shows/films. Can you recall any show or film where the characters happen to be gay but are not important to the plot? Probably not because homophobia still exists. People can lose their jobs or have the show/film they have been trying to make get cut. Just because they have one character that just happens to be gay. It is an issue that still exists today. Seriously how many times have you heard an uproar of homophobic complaining about a gay couple in a film or a kiss between two girls that aren't even the main characters and don't even last two seconds? You would be surprised by the lengths companies would go to silent workers or cut films/shows just so they don't lose money. And the trouble writers and directors would go to give a LGBT character.

@@strangevol5264 While, yes, bisexual people do exist, it's abundantly clear that the more socially-driven people aren't trying to make her bi; they want her to be a gold star lesbian beyond reproach.

All of those are explicitly done due to production mandate. Velma never had a romantic interest the studio didn't force. The Live Action movie tried to have her be gay/bi and the studio flipped out, making Jmes Gunn write a love interest for Velma. It's why her Love interest in the first movie has 0 relevence to the plot or interactions with anyone but her. He was reshoots only. People have seen queer coding in Velma since pretty much day one of the cartoon. It was always unintentional but it was noticed before the studios gave her dates to curb the 'Velma's queer" comments.