Vercel Gave Up On Edge 

Theo pushed for edge so hard. Remember this kids

The edging stream where Theo took a break to blow.

All this time and effort reinventing client-server, ajax, and cdns. This is a 25 year old workflow.

You heard it here first, vercel is now in it's goon phase.

Never stop edging

My man out here rocking that 80's CIA agent undercover as a cocaine runner for the Colombians look, and pulling it the fuck off.

I’m gonna wait another five years and then see again if frontend has agreed with each other

I thought this was about Edge, the browser.

I love how Vercel always walk back whatever paradigm they pushed a year ago, just before announcing a brand new rendering paradigm that's definitely manna from heaven, this time!

Edge is not in thousands of locations. The largest edge network is cloudflare which is in around 300+ locations

Australia mentioned let’s go

This field is humbling. Every now and then we have to appreciate the fact that we didn't know and accept reality.

It amazes to me that we are adding this amount of complexity to save 200-300ms, many of these ideas are the opposite of good engineering.

Love the content but seeing your face making some weird expression on the cover of every single video just makes it so hard to want to click on it.

The edge thing will only work for companies like Cloudflare and Fastly that owns their own infrastructure and can offer a much cheaper pricing by compacting the edge v8 runtimes and get CPU-time pricing instead of runtime pricing. It won't scale for Vercel which is just running AWS Lambda and have the same cost model as original nodejs based runtime.

Not me rewriting my NextAuth jwt code because I am forced by the library to make it compatible with Edge(even though i don't use it), just so Vercel gives up on Edge today 😂 Unlucky timing, but at least I learned something new i guess

Theres potential for a meme here, with the thumbnail faces and edging and all that

i dont care how vercel feels, im going to keep on edging

I REALLY WANTED TO EDGE WITH THIS ONE😥😥😥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣

Good on Vercel for admitting something didn't work out and pivoting.

edging to this rn

As someone who really leveled up during this whole edge craze its been an absolute blast nerding out on the edge runtimes, how theyre built, performance, quirks and drawbacks and building around them. Its nice to see we arent just doing things to do them on edge anymore and are taking a measured approach to building with them and finding good improvements.

I saw this with no context thinking we were talking about Microsoft Edge for like the first minute or so

a perfect example of not having FOMO about new tech stuff - it will die sooner than you'll have a chance to test it out :)

crab is for Rust

More like investors are knocking, Vercel is trying to reduce their server expenditure. Shutting down the least used, and a lot expensive product to begin with.

I'm glad I didn't jump on this "edge" or even "serverless" nonsense because of hype. I mean I also didn't need it on apps that I've worked on. I invested my time getting to know Linux more and understanding how to deploy things on a VPS/VM on my own without these managed services and I can say that I learned a ton. Yeah it's great to know these managed services, but I think knowing the barebones is a more valuable skill long term.

next month "NEXTJS gave up on server components". the javascript ecosystem is a joke

You had me at ”This isn’t clickbait”

I knew this would happen and when I saw this title I shouted "Called it!" out loud

"if u don't give me a better name you're stupid" -- dawg chill out lmao

First time discovering this channel and I've always liked NextJs

Great video. Thanks for the heads up I’m in the middle of launching an app with “edge” built in functionality may have to do some refactoring 🤔

"None of these are running node" AWS: Hold my lambdas

working fine in my Microsoft edge..

What's the drawing app you use?

I had never considered building my side projects on any of these edge solutions because of the database rtt problem. Lately I've been building an app using turso as the database and it occurs to me that turso's embedded replicas perfectly solve that problem.

Vercel’s done with edging?

This video really took the edge off.

Doesn't RU-vid also use PPR? Or at least something similar. When you open RU-vid it basically immediately comes up with a page skeleton that then bit by bit gets filled with the dynamic content.

When will someone tell Theo that Remix has had the ability to do all of these things since day 1 😭😭😭😭😭

Man, that's why I love your videos. Yeah, you talked about news but you always have a deep understanding on the subjects and you bring us to a deep dive in it. I can't say how much I learned just watching your videos ! Amazing job, mate ;)

with partial pre rendering, can you revalidate (ISR) the data for the static parts of the page that lives on the edge?

I think I'm going to just stick with doing things the "old fashioned" way. Vite to build my frontend, deployed on CDN for quick loading to users browsers. Keep it a SPA, and stream in data over websockets so we get first bytes quickly, and extra data gets cached into localstorage. Can make this super snappy and also support offline usage (happens more often than people realize, spotty cell coverage, airplanes, etc). The recent allergic reaction to running JS on client computers is crazy to me. Sure, we can massively reduce the bloat (Vite with Svelte or similar can solve that largely), but just because some folks ship too much JS doesn't mean we have to go crazy and compute everything on the server-side like it's 1999 and we are still writing PHP. It seems too convenient to me that all these companies are pushing us to move compute back to servers, when that means paying them more per month! Conflict of interest. So I don't trust anything Vercel says, or any of these other companies that are doing similar (Deno Deploy, etc).

What is the diagram software being used?

At this point Next js has became the religious cult that everyone hates haha

Guess they have been "Edge" ing for a while. only to never see the "climax" of their work.

This really is the year of serverlessness

Finally! Considering returning to next

why they dont use bun for their backend?

What does SF pilled mean?

would have really appreciated a link in the description to the tweet in question

thank you

Wait... what? Seriously? I'm just learning edge. wt... dude! Okay, gonna listen to the video now....

How long till they update middleware’s so they can run on node runtime?

I am on the edge with Vercel.

Please link to original articles and tweets in the description.

Isn’t that partial pre-rendering strategy the same as Astro’s islands? Astro does not ship js to the browser by default, if one wants to add interactive, one creates “islands” of interactivity and that is the only js shipped.

Curious, what app or website was used to make the illustration?

EdgingTime PERFECT Name

edging is old fashion, everyone is gooning rn

what is that canvas/drawing tool?

another day, another switch in js

where is the tweet link?

vercel should edge more

I thought this was somehow about the Microsoft Edge Browser xD

Name for the edge runtime? - Edge Runtime

I think edge runtime is stupid, you should call it edging time

edge runtime == v8 isolate

vercel pivoting to gooning

At first I thought the Edge browser, then I thought CDN. Never heard of the Edge runtime before.

I didn’t quite understood, could you show us how you edge?

They abandoned their child

does someone have a demo app for ppr?

Sad to see Vercel losing their edge streak

Post the link to what you're reading in the description please :/

PPR solves an already solved issue. You just need to accept that not everything needs to be put inside react. Why not serve the static part of the site directly, use react for the main content stuff and use some other thing to glue them together? Why must everything live inside the react monolith?

After so much complexity and so many bugs... No wonder why

sir theo can you make a video for honojs and elysiajs

Is Vercel still pushing the jamstack architecture or have they abandoned that too?

Oh, Sorry, I kinda thought this was about browser compatibility issues.

1:52 when I saw Edge with capital E in the title, I thought it was about the browser.

Called it from the outset. All of the edge stuff is a cancerous outgrowth of the microservices hype era. The fastest experience for users will always be a properly configured and optimized majestic monolith (or regionalized set) with all resources necessary to compute a response in one place, and a CDN to serve pre-rendered sections and their static assets. The fact that anyone thought it was a good idea to spin up an entire virtual machine and init relevant JS libraries to serve a request (aka cold start) is beyond me. People forget that the V8 engine powering node may start slower, but that's only because it optimizes code more (and better) which makes it more performant over time (and use less memory!) than JSC and other Edge runtimes.

Doesn’t the quik framework stream everything, literally.

Nice haircut! 👍

Haha classic, if you use Vercel (and therefore NextJS) for an app that needs to live for several years, if you want to maintain and keep it current, you will have to rewrite it 10x over (at least) to accommodate all their endless experiments and paradigm shifts which have no real benefit to your business and all aimed to lock you deeper into their ecosystem. All the freebies and templates and silver-platter starter projects are just bait for their crap and they can't even keep those up to date with the pace of their changes.

crab = Rust

what if instead of using NodeJS you're just writing your website in a language that compiles it into an efficient binary that doesn't need a complex runtime?

SPA + code splitting = done ... no need for complex infrastructure

The Crab is Rust! I'm sure! It their logo :)

I might keep edging without vercel

For those in the comments: the context which allows this to exist, already existed. They just change its behavior a little bit and save quite an amount of time, 300ms is a tangible amount. Up to 50% faster responses, if what they said is true.

I also wonder what cratb 🦀 could be ? 🤔

I thought it was something related to the browser...

So should we switch to chrome or Firefox 😂

I'm quite confused by all this edging

Have you ever considered breathing?

No more edging?

Have you just picked your eyebrows?

This is all new to me. I have never heard of "vercel edge."