Saltyshoelace said it for me. I am dutch, but when I see what a Danish company can do with wind turbines, it should be better to say that a windmill (or turbine) is from now on more part of the Danisch culture rather than the Dutch. Very nice to see.
yea, I am a amateur still in school. In thermodynamics we are covering the equations around work and power. In electronics we are covering generators. So it interested me in windmills.
The max size is usually 50Mw. They are modular, fast setup, modern (no archaic manuals or incidents requiring engineers to fly in from overseas), simple, and reliable. Further, the EPZ (protection zone) in case of incident is: ZERO feet! They can contain ANY incident because of their comparatively tiny size. Whereas the EPZ for the old HUGE plants was tens of miles, at least 30 if i remember correctly according NRC. These new, small reactors are made by NuScale and others, check 'em out.
Had a block put on planning permission for a wind farm in my area unless it uses non-Vesta's turbines. Solidarity with the Isle Of Wight workers. We will cost you dearly as the fight will go on forever. We will not roll over on this one.
HOW IS THE MUSIC?? I`M OF ARGENTINA., IN IMPSA "INDUSTRIAS METALURGICAS PESCARMONA" has been produced THIS MACHINE. THIS IS TYPE OF ENERGY IS THE BEST AND CLEAR. EXCELLENT MACHINE!!!!
They're a major industrial blight on the landscape no matter how you spin it. Drawn images of wind turbines (e.g. on cereal boxes) make them look like quaint old windmills, belying the fact that they're often 400 feet high and dwarf local natural features, especially when installed on ridge-lines for maximum utility. There's good reason why they get consistently negative reactions from locals; that is, the ones who don't sell-out and sign agreements not to speak ill of them. It's like bribery.
I'm certain your figure is correct. Oil spills do not occur with impunity 24x7. The Valdez spill was in 1989. Do the math. Many of the spill victims can be saved with rescue efforts by volunteers. The breadth of species killed is far more wide with these air blenders. The ratio of power output to mortality rate is pathetic for these ugly eyesores. You're right, "some people" are so ignorant. Those that begin their rebuttal with a personal barb and end with a barb are usually "some people".
the debate here in america is weither or not the windmill should be subsideries of the government. So obviously cost per watt is a issue. However i have not seen a projection of what one windmill cost, anyone have one handy?
The delivery infrastructure is also in need of upgrade, BAD. Certainly more in need of overhaul than healthcare, that's for damn sure. Can't get any public option MRI's if there's no electricity.
You dont have any idea about what you are talking about. The new nuc plant designed by westinghouse AP1000 has been approved for every country it has been reviewd in. Im sure if their was a chance one or two of the countrys might have disapproved, dont you think?
In summary (and my final comment): the new, SMALL nuclear plants in a strategic, partial-mesh array are proven to have 0 safety risk due to the small amount of material. The max output per plant is 50 megawatts. Placed strategically, this is the only viable solution for the insatiable electricity use including future growth. We also need to upgrade delivery. Anyone who is against feeding the grid must decide between electricity, and going back to the dark ages. Your choice. Signing off..
exactly. with EVERYTHING optimal, one turbine can barely make 2 Mw. 3 tops on a rebuild w/ new coils etc. Too many moving parts. I used to drive past the huge farm in PawPaw, IL while driving back and forth to Rockford IL on I-39. 90% of the turbines weren't even turning due to unfavorable conditions, disrepair, etc. It was exciting when it first came out, but it is already a flagging technology. We NEED small, modular nukes. That is, unless something comparable is discovered.
Houses don't have blades that slice through the air at high rates of speed ? Use google, the avian mortality issue is thoroughly documented. Nice subtle jab there at the end.. good one!!! jagoff
Oh definitely. They're a hot commodity. Look at who invests in them: old money dynasties for one; movers and shakers for sure. However. The grid is going to collapse without SERIOUS generation power, and wind turbines make a lilliputian amount of power for the footprint they have. You say it takes years to recoup on nuclear..... it takes damn near as long to get the land allocated for these turbines with all of the "not in my back yard" and eminent domain suits. Nuclear = fast, POWERFUL power
The united states has more uranium than the middle east has oil, Im not trying to bash the windmills because their windmills i hope they can work however in the future if technology helps produce a 100 mw wind tower, lol, good for it. However, With newton in mind, How can you get that much power from a wind tower? i would like to see 100mw wind mills, that *might work, but How can you get the same amount of power from.
15 rpm measured at the rotor center puts the speed of the blades and blade tips at upwards of 100mph! Far too fast for the birds to negotiate. People dying doesn't mean we should kill birds too. RE: Nuclear power. Look into modular
But what are pollutants from coal burning doing to the ecosystem? How about all that waste coming from nuclear power plants? And how are wind turbines more ugly than the gray haze of smog that blankets the industrialized world? Birds are a concern, but clean air and water is a necessity for the entire planet. Next time you see a wind turbine, think of it as a soaring monument to our ingenuity, our engineering, our will to create a cleaner world, and our appreciation of all living things.
My only interest is in stable, cheap electricity for the people. Turbines just don't offer that. They're neat for autonomous complexes and such, but the national grid ? A drop in the bucket. As far as those solar towers with the molten material generating steam, those show real promise. We'll see if it bears fruit or not. My concern NOW is that the grid is VERY old and rickety and will collapse under it's own weight in 20 years. Lucrative or not, we need to feed the grid. modular nukes can.
company i work for ? the company I work for has over 150,000 employees. Wrong guy. Again, I'm talking about REAL power for a floundering grid. You obviously don't understand the scope of the demand vs. the trickle of power these turbines provide. Like i said, these turbines are cool for small, self-contained complexes with predictable future needs (AND having been studied by audobon society for migratory paths prior to placement). Anyway, we need REAL power fast to avoid collapse
honestly, though, don't cars kill millions of birds every month? I have visited a wind site several times and have never seen one dead bird. I admit they do kill the occasional bird but it certainly is an acceptable tradeoff considering the pollutants these machines offset. Perhaps some wind sites are poorly located? Maybe. But I can't think of one good place to put a nuclear reactor or a belching smokestack. Can you?
The future is going to be either: 1) Complete failure of the coal-fired and hydroelectric grids by 2020 or 2) Many small, modular nuclear power plants with a max output of 50 megawatts, configured in a strategic partial mesh configuration. You should know this as FACT if you truly have a master's degree in energy. These turbines aren't worth a shit. low output. low ROI. High maint. cost. Bad for the ecosystem. The only new tech. with promise is solar capture towers / boiling salt / steam
You cant even back up what your trying to prove if it is anything at all. If you do "know very well what your talking about" you can answer my question So masters o' energy answer my question? Compare units of nuclear power to units of windpower, in terms of MONEY? lets hear it!!!!!!!!! masters of energy? YEA from an online college based in India, pffff
well see some states just dont have the wind required to run these things... all what you saw usually have a good stream 24/7... Michigan may be one of those states that just doesnt have enough wind... but im not sure, I wish MO where i live would get them also but we jsut have incensistant wind
