SG5 clause d states: "Rapid load balls may only be removed from the starting zone by a robot (i.e., cannot be bounced, rolled or otherwise removed from the starting zone by a loader" You cant roll the balls Also, SG4 clause D states "no robot may be in the load zone at the time the ball is released by the loader" You violate this rule when you place the ball with the robot in starting zone one at the same time Realistically however, you don't even need to roll the balls with your auton, just place the balls faster and you will be perfectly legal
Our team isn't violating SG5 because we aren't rolling the balls outside of the loading zone to our robot. Our robot is still the one to remove the balls from the loading zone. SG4 is a ruling specifying how to use the loading zone, not the rapid load period, so we aren't violating this rule either. I appreciate the concerns though, and let me know if you disagree with these clarifications.
@@7163BChewbotcaRobotics It says in SG5 that clauses a and d are still active in the rapid load period, also, the fact that teams in china don't roll the balls just shows that its illegal. If it were legal, it would be the meta, but its not, which is why china teams dont roll them. Either way, its still a great run and you guys dont even need to roll the balls for it to work!
Nice job, but the manual really clearly stated that "Note 2: Although it is not required, placing the Ball gently down onto the Field without any additional motion is highly recommended. Unorthodox strategies, such as “tossing” or “rolling” the Ball, will not receive any “benefit of the doubt” if the Head Referee cannot clearly confirm that all criteria have been met (especially clauses “B” and “D”)." (Page32 of game manual), So........?
@@7163BChewbotcaRobotics agreed, we have a competition today and plan to do that in our autonomous, I’ll let you know what the head referee says about it.
@@CrypticCowboys we did it and they didn’t say anything, I’m assuming this means it’s ok. We only got 88 points autonomous though as one of our shots missed, the ball was then blocking the robot from getting to the goals. We did get 196 driving skills though!
I thought the balls had to be placed onto the field for rapid loading and weren’t allowed to be rolled to/into the bot like that? Nice work though! Are you using the internal gyro to get such precise robot control/consistent driving?
@@7163BChewbotcaRobotics Wait, I thought that the manual says that it is illegal to have the ball in motion before contacting the robot for the rapid load. great job tho!
Your guys amazing 🎉🎉 I’m Team 4275 from Hongkong,and I have a question about the rules. Regarding G5, Robots begin the Match in the starting size. At the beginning of a Match, each Robot must fit within an 23” wide x 73” long x 15” high (584mm x 1854mm x 381mm) volume, as checked during inspection per . Is this true or is the official data incorrect? Does it apply to checkin size?
I know that you guys have said that your 4 motor drivetrain is consistent and don’t use gyro, but I still have the following questions as to how you made it so consistent (considering our code is very inconsistent): Do you use brain inertial? Did you put your turn velocity down to make it more consistent? Do you use PID? Do you use turn X degrees, turn to heading X degrees, or turn to rotation X degrees? Help from you would be much appreciated.
Amazing autonomous, we also have a dual catapult and have been able to consistently get 220 driver skills and sometimes get 244. I am wondering how you make your code so consistent and reliable? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Are you using a PID?
@@7163BChewbotcaRobotics thanks! We have wings at the back of our robot and are planning to work on a four motor drivetrain after the comp we have today. Are you using anything else to make it accurate like a gyro or a pid? Also do you use text or blocks and do you have it set as a drivetrain on vexcode is or 4 motors?
@@7163BChewbotcaRobotics If you wouldn't mind me asking, how do you do that? my robot is a flywheel, but we have no auto aligners, I'm so confused as to how we could fix this.
@@CrypticCowboys We believe our response to Q&A 2132 addresses most of your question. We agree that the top example in your image shows an illegal Rapid Load scenario. Because the Robot intake pulls the Ball from Starting Zone 2 in a Robot action, we also agree that the bottom example in your image shows what appears to be a legal Rapid Load scenario. However... Note 2 for rule addresses scenarios in which "... the Head Referee cannot clearly confirm that all criteria have been met (especially clauses "B" and "D"). Because your bottom example uses a strategy of rolling the Ball, Note 2 will come into play if the Head Referee cannot clearly confirm that the Ball is removed from Starting Zone 2 by the Robot and not the rolling action. This strategy has an inherent risk that the Head Referee could rule it as an intentional Score Affecting Violation of clause D, which would result in a Disqualification for the Match.
@@CrypticCowboys Yes, the Robot has to meet all criteria of rule at the beginning of every Match and after every use of rules and/or to legally reset the Robot during a Match. This includes Clause B of , "Contacting the inside of the Field Perimeter wall."
