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VGT turbo caused major engine damage pt1 

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The first time that I have actually seen a vgt turbo failure that caused the parts to go back through the exhaust side and cause piston and liner damage.

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@sandy1653
@sandy1653 4 года назад
As far as talking too much goes, when you're describing technical minutia or how something failed or why you're fixing the way you are, I really enjoy it. Especially as I'm just a shade tree mechanic wrenching on my own stuff to save what money I can, so I never get to see anything like this. And the opportunity to watch over the shoulder of a master mechanic and pick up knowledge is priceless.
@daniquebaker91
@daniquebaker91 4 года назад
hear hear
@kd5byb
@kd5byb 4 года назад
AGREED! :)
@cadlejustin
@cadlejustin 4 года назад
Amen!
@ronchappel4812
@ronchappel4812 4 года назад
Shade tree mechanic :D I must remember that phrase.That's definitely me
@Rocky-ne9vf
@Rocky-ne9vf 4 года назад
Yeah! Agreed.
@enzedpcs2
@enzedpcs2 4 года назад
Why on earth would someone complain you talk to much. It’s how we learn stuff, and personally I really like the stories you tell.
@ronchappel4812
@ronchappel4812 4 года назад
I think one of his customers complained a little which is fair if they're paying exact time rates.Other than that i cant think who wouldnt like the talking.That's my favorite part
@jumpinjojo
@jumpinjojo 3 года назад
Gary Miles *too much. Not to.
@joshmaynard8231
@joshmaynard8231 4 года назад
Same here I enjoy when you explain stuff an talk about it. Or when you are telling stories to. Love your videos Warren.
@zephyrold2478
@zephyrold2478 4 года назад
I second that.
@trevormansfield6740
@trevormansfield6740 4 года назад
And me
@michaeledwards6335
@michaeledwards6335 4 года назад
I always use vegetable oil. It was cummins recommended so I use it on all liner rings now. Thank you for every video. I watch you faithfully. I own a truck shop in eastern Va. I have been in the business of truck repair for 40 years and I learn something new from you all the time. Thanks again.
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353
@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 4 года назад
Thank you sir.
@terminaldiagnostics5576
@terminaldiagnostics5576 4 года назад
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 washing up liquid works well too believe it or not no additives to attack the rubber let's then slip right in
@canuckyank82
@canuckyank82 4 года назад
The professor strikes again. Everyone sure learns from him. He is amazing.
@rdecoster1
@rdecoster1 4 года назад
What a touch with the dial depth gauge set up. It is fun and makes you feel good to fix broken stuff! All I can say is your customers are some LUCKY people!!! They should remember you at Christmas for sure!!
@butterycoloredman5776
@butterycoloredman5776 4 года назад
You don’t talk enough warren!
@zephyrold2478
@zephyrold2478 4 года назад
I second that.
@terminaldiagnostics5576
@terminaldiagnostics5576 4 года назад
@@zephyrold2478 he's a do'er nice to see. Don't need to much jargon watching a craftsmanship should be enough
@daniquebaker91
@daniquebaker91 4 года назад
@@terminaldiagnostics5576 dont you wanna know why he`s doing things the way he`s doing it??? and him talking away ,.. its almost like being there and learn from a honest to gawd mechanic
@chabssperformance1442
@chabssperformance1442 4 года назад
Love the Talking Warren very Informative keep up the good Work.
@rdavit
@rdavit 4 года назад
Another master class on engine rebuilding. Thank you Warren! P.s. Truly enjoy when you explain the reasoning of why you do things a certain way.....like a college professor.
@canuckyank82
@canuckyank82 4 года назад
I've called him the professor for a long time. My dad was a diesel mechanic his whole life. He knew all the tricks but he was no professor. Warren is in the stratosphere with his videos.
@danielmassee3789
@danielmassee3789 4 года назад
I learn more just from Warren talking about this and that than I ever will in a book, very informative channel keep up the good work.
@michaelcarlson1528
@michaelcarlson1528 4 года назад
Great video and the install of the piston demo was absolutely picture perfect! I was happy when you had that issue with the ring and explaining to not be in a hurry during this process! Those are the kind of things you hope will happen during filming! Great job Warren!
@warrenpost1502
@warrenpost1502 4 года назад
I wish there were more guys like you around, someone that takes the time to do a good job
@brucedickison8788
@brucedickison8788 4 года назад
Thanks for the commentary, very interesting. I appreciate the effort you put into the videos.
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer 4 года назад
context is everything Warren! Keep up the good work! OMG those VGT turbos can be a lot of drama...........the Switchblade design ive seen Jpaydirt (youtube) talk about and demonstrate is the Future. Its simple, few moving parts and really no way for something to go down the intake. As always thanks for sharing, one of the best channels ive subbed to )) At least with wet liners you dont have to go thru the whole "liners in the freezer" thing before installation. Lanolin doesnt harm rubber and plastic also.
@bobferranti5222
@bobferranti5222 4 года назад
I like and appreciate your talking and description, it helps make the video's much better, keep it up. It's always a pleasure to watch you assemble a engine or internal components, you're so meticulous and precise.
@philipploof9390
@philipploof9390 4 года назад
without you, sir America would literally grind to a halt! thanks for always being there to get u.s. back going again, that's why I love it when you get hot under the collar that's when the engineers should be around to learn what could be made better, again thanks for showing up to work every day.thoughts and prayers!!!
@randyrhodes7526
@randyrhodes7526 4 года назад
The snap ring info is perfect, a lot of people do not understand that snap ring orientation is important.
@russellflemister393
@russellflemister393 4 года назад
warren you don't talk too much it's how we learn please keep up the hard work thank you
@thomashaley5284
@thomashaley5284 4 года назад
After 40 years experience I'm pretty good at what I do. Not so much on these new engines, but welding and mechanical maintenance. How in the world can one man have so much knowledge about so much stuff. Warren is a rare breed. Would love to work with him for a week for free. Glad my 4044M doesn't have a turbo!
@Mr549er
@Mr549er 4 года назад
please warren love the commentary the more the better other wise how do we learn what your doing im old school born 1964 keep up the good work , you are truly blessed with many many skills , i always said to my self this guy has the knowledge of 10 men blessings to u and family .
@BlueWaterRedBlood
@BlueWaterRedBlood 4 года назад
Keep up the good work, your the first wrench I have found on here that shows the whole process and explains everything very well. Not to mention you obviously have a hell of a skill set with the variety of stuff you work on, thanks for taking the time to make these videos!
@wesreeder6721
@wesreeder6721 4 года назад
Warren. You just talk as much as you need to. I enjoy your vids every day. I have learnd so much watching them and I'm no back yard mechanic. You take real good care and stay safe. Thanks again Warren.
@Rocky-ne9vf
@Rocky-ne9vf 4 года назад
Hearing your ongoing talk is good. Let's us know more of what might be important points and not so important points. And, your positive approach is good to hear.
@DXT61
@DXT61 4 года назад
If Warren gets stumped then Ol Pete must be a real badass mechanic.
@Rs500ybd
@Rs500ybd 4 года назад
it's not that he gets stumped no one mechanic knows it all. it's a game of catch we all bounce information about stuff to each other that is how it works. My Area of knowledge is Electrics. Can Bus Ect. I was by his side in the Videos where he Did the CAT/Cummins swap on the blue Day Cab. Headache at the time but he Sorted it I have lost count on how many loom amalgamations to earlier chassis. But That is the only way you are going to keep the vintage Chassis alive. Great videos to watch Some of Us like the Banter As mechanic Banter is Unique. if I lived in the USA I Would be proud to work alongside him.
@bambam680
@bambam680 4 года назад
I say thesame thing
@fsj197811
@fsj197811 4 года назад
You're a good mechanic, I've learned quite a bit watching your videos. Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge with all of us out here in computer land.
@brettgoodman4360
@brettgoodman4360 4 года назад
An old Cat manual would likely tell you to use SAE 30 for everything.
@jeffsnider3588
@jeffsnider3588 4 года назад
I've noticed that about CAT, recently they came out with a bulletin saying to use 50 or 60 wgt in final drives. I went to an oil and lube class at Detroit Diesel, they say the multi-viscosity oils just won't hold up like a single viscosity oil. Maybe CAT follows this policy also.
@lucyandjumper7558
@lucyandjumper7558 4 года назад
Your not talkin too much,roll it dude!!
@jumpinjojo
@jumpinjojo 3 года назад
Lucy and Jumper *you're
@duanecreativemachine
@duanecreativemachine 4 года назад
A lot of hand cleaners have alcohol in them so I suspect that's why they say don't use it for o ring lube. I enjoy the talking as you show things. I learn a lot more with the explanation.
@johnmclaurinmclaurin924
@johnmclaurinmclaurin924 4 года назад
God bless your hard work warren ,man I really enjoy your videos
@jgvgjv2980
@jgvgjv2980 4 года назад
Talk as much you like,Warren, love all of it, more the better
@WBOS72
@WBOS72 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing all the tips, tricks and explaining everything step by step. Your channel is my favourite Warren.
@generobben7290
@generobben7290 4 года назад
Here is #3 piston. Oh Shit. What a disaster. Great video, Warren.
@davehevner8219
@davehevner8219 2 года назад
Really enjoyed this video Warren, your little bits of knowledge shared is wonderful. You have years and years of experience that is incredibly valuable. Thank you for sharing it with us. Your great !
@Mahees_230
@Mahees_230 4 года назад
I really enjoyed the test drive and the rebuild with the S50 hay squeezer. That's the engine I want to put in my project truck. Keep right on talking. I pick up things about the John Deere, Cummins, and the T444E engines you work on. Never stop learning.
@6-4fab53
@6-4fab53 4 года назад
Warren, sounds to me like you do jobs the right way! (which anybody in this line of work would know) And your buddy Pete does a lot of dealership repairs or more than likely replacements. We all know how dealerships operate! Anyways, you put out the best content on RU-vid as far as diesel repair goes in my opinion! I can't tell you how much I have learned from watching your videos! I have been doing a lot of automotive repair lately but look forward to getting into the diesel side in the near future! I always look forward to seeing your next video! As always, stay safe out there! Dan @6-4_Fab Glen Rock, PA, USA!
@poohbear4130
@poohbear4130 4 года назад
Last time I looked it was “your channel”! Don’t worry what the trolls say, do what you think is right! HD mechanics love to discuss these very issues, my brother is a HD Mech and he talks my ear off and that’s how I learned! Keep up the good work.
@dh-_1011
@dh-_1011 4 года назад
I had a thought about the o rings. Maybe they say to not use oil on them to install because of swelling so you use dish soap to install them then once they are in place, oil eventually gets to them and swells them up in the block to help seal/hold things tight? Just a thought! Stay cool, Warren.
@cineminded
@cineminded 4 года назад
I realy like the tractor videos , especially the John Deere ones. Everyday I work with John Deere tractors and feel like I learned al lot about them true your videos.
@ianwallett7438
@ianwallett7438 4 года назад
If I reuse the main bolts when rebuilding my pellet mill it will shear the heads off every time when it’s running again. I know it’s two completely different machines but it shows bolts can become week when torqued right up then loosened and then tightened up a second time. They are big Allen bolts and require a torque multiplier to achieve the recommended tightness. I just use the inch drive and dog it to the max now, fed up messing with the multiplier. Good job as always Warren 👍
@larryburns7094
@larryburns7094 4 года назад
Just done 2 cyls on earlie 6068 I used tire soap for years .good video .
@4321grp
@4321grp 4 года назад
When the 92 series Detroits first came out, they had a lot of trouble with liner seals failing and getting coolant in the crankcase, we got a number of warranty jobs from RoadwayTruck Lines because they had lot of new trucks with 6v92s. Detroit went to a different material for their liner seals, and they never had that problem afterwards.
@robertoobregon3750
@robertoobregon3750 4 года назад
Great video and keep on explaining, it's been like 30+ yrs since worked on engine like this.
@glenvanbavel8710
@glenvanbavel8710 4 года назад
Awesome video, keep talking in them . I sure do learn a lot from you. Thanks again for putting in the time to film and edit.
@sagevalleyliving387
@sagevalleyliving387 4 года назад
If someone says you talk too much. I say The hell with them. I have said it before. Sir the you way of explaining things would make you a very good teacher. I know you really don't care what the option(s) are for the most part. I always enjoy your videos and content you put out. Have a wonderful and safe day. :)
@rogerjustice8835
@rogerjustice8835 4 года назад
Unfortunately the story about reusing rod bolts, that's one of those times my Dad would have said son the best lessons in life are learned the hard way. I must have taken it to heart because it seems everything I learn is the hard way. He also said if you ain't making mistakes you ain't doing nothing.
@ronchappel4812
@ronchappel4812 4 года назад
I've changed liners only once,on a 70's Cat D5.The workshop manual said to use lithium soap on the liner seals,which threw me for a while! After doing some internet research i found they meant lithium soap GREASE.I'm still a little embarrassed i missed that
@Rx7man
@Rx7man 4 года назад
strange why the turbo piled up, unless it's a common problem with that turbo, perhaps a piece of casting flash or something came loose in the exhaust runner (were all the exhaust port extensions good?) and went through the turbo, causing it to self destruct.. The problem is if you get any piece of metal in there, it'll hit the turbo vanes and turbine wheel repeatedly, the gas tries to push it inward while the centrifugal force pushes it outward, and when things are moving at 100,000 RPM, impacts are pretty intense. I think any exhaust manifold ought to be designed with a bit of a siphon in it to prevent the shrapnel from being able to go back into the engine Looks like a great channel, Subbing!
@gcflower99
@gcflower99 4 года назад
Warren, great video and explanation! You mentioned that they were in a hurry to "just slap it together and get it goin' ". They may have been in too much of a hurry the night before when the engine was damaged. That's right, the night before...run a vgt machine hard and then shut it off right away and the turbo will usually self-destruct from being hot and oil starved (once the engine's off, there's no oil pressure). Paranoid? You bet! Take just a little time to take it easy on the way back to the barn and let that turbo cool before you turn the key off. It's a lot cheaper.
@canuckyank82
@canuckyank82 4 года назад
How long should a tractor idle to cool the vgt enough to shut it off?
@user-cs6us5px1s
@user-cs6us5px1s 4 года назад
video content is superb keep doing what you do, I really enjoy it
@xaydemeyers3344
@xaydemeyers3344 4 года назад
Thanks warren for another video really appreciate the time you put into these videos👍🏼
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 4 года назад
I'm going to say this once if any person says he doesn't do great work then they need slapped this man is a great mechanic I wish he could work for me
@openstationloggingkevinbak4625
@openstationloggingkevinbak4625 4 года назад
Color coded orings never heard of them but i guess if you do alot of engine repair guess it helps good luck always find these interesting your braver than i am. Was working on 1 of town trucks when i worked there i was a little nervous about working on a few things the town hired a man that does this kind of work he told me just gotta be brave and get right too it lol
@Super52889
@Super52889 4 года назад
Another great video sir you are such a excellent teacher and you in my opinion you do not talk enough
@Gordonseries385
@Gordonseries385 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing Warren enjoyed watching and the tips! take care and safe
@bobt1634
@bobt1634 4 года назад
I had the vgt seize at low boost on a few tier 2 6068 kohler generators. Luckily the vgt failed at minimum boost and it rolled coal the next morning then faulted out. The oil drain tube bolt closest to the block on the turbo deserves a cus word that hasn't been invented yet!
@henrikchristiansen6145
@henrikchristiansen6145 2 года назад
Warren your awesome to watch!!!!, But I do have 2 questions for you, but realize that I'm a small engine and outboard mechanic. 1. Why not do compression checks on these engines to aid in diagnostics?? 2. I have been taught by old school mechanics that you should always use Red Loctite on rod bolts whether new or used, why not do that to make sure that they don't come out?? I don't mean to be an armchair mechanic on you, but I just wanted to ask these two questions. Aloha................
@fastst1
@fastst1 4 года назад
If you want something for hitting, stop by the home center and pick up a couple sample blocks of synthetic deck material, Usually they have a few hundred color sample blocks, no sawdust.
@richardjones3112
@richardjones3112 3 года назад
Brilliant informative video,thanks from UK.
@tomh6477
@tomh6477 3 года назад
When I installed liners in most diesle engine I have worked on the tech manual said to lube the o rings with vegtabje oil and it worked great.
@2tana22
@2tana22 4 года назад
Great video, I learn a lot with you sharing your expertise, your the wizard and know how to make the broom fly
@flyboy6876
@flyboy6876 4 года назад
Talk all you want Warren your a damm good teacher
@newjerseybill3521
@newjerseybill3521 4 года назад
On the old Cleveland diesels, we used to use Murphy Oil Soap on the liner Orings. Seemed to work fine.
@jimforsyth2.
@jimforsyth2. 2 года назад
It's just a good practice to use fresh bolts on anything that is under load or on a rotating mass. In a internal component
@garyfeltus9801
@garyfeltus9801 4 года назад
Hey Warren l like your talking while work. I believe you great videos. If people don't like they go watch something else. Thanks for sharing.
@gregphillips9670
@gregphillips9670 4 года назад
Mack includes a special o-ring lube with their muzzle loader (piston and liner) kits for the MP series engines.
@ItsAlwaysRusty
@ItsAlwaysRusty 4 года назад
Talk all you want. It makes the video smooth.
@kevinsantema6807
@kevinsantema6807 4 года назад
Hey waren, first time leaving a comment, John Deere 308 lubricating soap # AR54749, made for cylinder liner packings, Thanks for the great videos, they are a great resource
@wackowacko8931
@wackowacko8931 4 года назад
I would check that the owner is using the right oil to work with the turbo and engine. Some turbos are really finicky about what oil is used, and a lot of farm shops use whatever oil is around. Also, the owner should not shut it down hot, it needs to idle for a bit to cool down the VGT vanes and the turbo cartridge after working hard for a lot of hours. If he can't wait around for that to happen, have him invest in a turbo timer. It's cheaper than an engine rebuild.
@pnwRC.
@pnwRC. 4 года назад
You've got some GREAT content on your channel. I just had to subscribe!
@dennisbailey4296
@dennisbailey4296 4 года назад
I use Sil-Glyde Silicone Brake Lub. It's great from brakes and all rubber O rings.
@4321grp
@4321grp 4 года назад
I also used dish soap on liner o-rings, I used it on the 92 series Detroits
@denjhill
@denjhill 4 года назад
Instead of dish soap how about a thick dielectric type grease. Non-petroleum based. Seems like it would give you a little bit of stickiness to maybe help hold the oring in place without swelling the material.
@blacksmoke5009
@blacksmoke5009 4 года назад
Looks like another case of run m hard put m away wet! Thanks for sharing bud keep on doing what you do greatly appreciated bud !👍
@davidbarnett.2313
@davidbarnett.2313 3 года назад
You give out tons of information. If someone doesn’t orientate on the problem, through speech, how will they know what you are doing? And the rest is just fun, like the guy pulling you in the grader and not looking back, and you yelling to get his attention. That image is stored in mind lol.
@MrPhenomenon1
@MrPhenomenon1 4 года назад
love your videos man,just discovered your channel.Got to put some liners in my mercedes soon,om 364.Will be getting new rod bolts for sure!
@johnwaby4321
@johnwaby4321 4 года назад
Love your talking procedures
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 4 года назад
Thank god my Chinese vgt turbo is low mounted. Lol. What a mess. Good job. Oven cleaner works amazing for freeing sticky vanes.
@johnmatthews1439
@johnmatthews1439 4 года назад
That’s a very common problem with 7430 and 7530 the crown breaks off the piston and goes through the vgt I would recommend replacing all 6 piston and liners Make sure to remove all EGR pipes and air intake pipes after cooler and EGR valve if you can get it out there will be debris from the failure
@Toyotas_n__Tools
@Toyotas_n__Tools 4 года назад
I'm redoing a head gasket job on my truck and the reason I was told my gasket may have blown was that I reused my head bolts, I only got 20k or 30k out of it. They are TTY bolts also tho. My timing chain guide also broke which is something else, this is a late toyota 22r
@rtjautomotive
@rtjautomotive 4 года назад
Chinese guy LOL.Like we havent had enough of the chinese guy.I work in same field you do.Good luck,God bless.
@petepeeff5807
@petepeeff5807 4 года назад
Ya, all those parts that are 90% right and we have to spend another hour massaging them to work because nothing else is available.
@3408kid
@3408kid 4 года назад
great job once again i really enjoy your channel,just wondering how much the parts cost for this thing? im sure they could have bought a jd 4020 for what this repair cost and it would last 10,000 hrs at least before trouble! such a shame all this overengineered stuff costs people so much time and money
@tomh6477
@tomh6477 3 года назад
Also when I installed the liners I would set them all down in the bores then with out a head gasket on I would lay the head on top of the liners and carefully snug the head bolts down in the same pattern as the recommended torque sequence not to the full torque but just enough to seat the liners .
@DaveG7920
@DaveG7920 4 года назад
How many hours on it Warren? I'm typing as I'm watching so apologies if you mention it.
@daithi007
@daithi007 4 года назад
Keep up the good work Warren.
@randallmyers
@randallmyers 4 года назад
can you give us an update on your Rental Tractor venture, What's going on with that, just fit it in if you can, i know your busy keeping your customers running but should would enjoy hearing about it, thanks for the content
@Isnt_ThatRight
@Isnt_ThatRight 4 года назад
Man will you stop being worried about the wingers.
@randyrhodes7526
@randyrhodes7526 4 года назад
I enjoy your work a lot, Keep it up !!
@tommyboy2855
@tommyboy2855 4 года назад
Warren, you don't talk too much as a matter of fact we like to hear you talk especially you stories and as far as your camera or vocals go screw them it's all good your a mechanic not a videographer.
@tedohio3038
@tedohio3038 4 года назад
Old Case heavy equipment mechanic I know always takes new pistons out of liners and reinstalls them himself.
@kerrygleeson4409
@kerrygleeson4409 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing Warren 👍🇦🇺👀
@jimjones3516
@jimjones3516 4 года назад
really Like the close shots.
@ivoryjohnson4662
@ivoryjohnson4662 3 года назад
You don’t talk too much….when you talk it’s something valid …unlike most people
@ronwade5433
@ronwade5433 4 года назад
Thank you for not putting music in your videos. I am retired now but have wrenched in three GM dealerships over more than four decades. Long form videos are great for those of us with normal attention spans, too bad for those that do not. This turbo killed a perfectly good engine, is it warrantied or, what recourse do you have?
@bennyogden4524
@bennyogden4524 4 года назад
You make good videos I enjoy your show keep up the good work
@rocky3481
@rocky3481 4 года назад
One good thing about the coronaviris is you find people on here that know their job and you can watch all there videos when you can't go to work yourself I have enjoyed them all especially the rants ha ha
@canuckyank82
@canuckyank82 4 года назад
Did I pay attention carefully enough? Was it the VGT (Very Green Trash) or was it related to those EM veins on the VGT? Now this appears to be a design problem and location problem. Here's the more important point for the JD owner- What is the guarantee that this won't happen again? Same damn problem? Nope. Get rid of that tractor right now because it has a serious design flaw. Stupid engineers. Warren you hit the nail right on the head or the sleeve , with that famous rubber hammer. Just freakin' fantastic, professor. Thank you so much for a great detective video. Just loved it. That 3 thousandths by the way- reminded me once again of dad and his gauge.
@bigcheese370
@bigcheese370 2 года назад
I see a lot of guys saying what they use on the o rings. Guys it’s simple, use lubricating soap. John Deere has it, don’t know what other manufacturers say to use.
@michaeldunagan8268
@michaeldunagan8268 2 года назад
@19:30 Vegetable Oil will generally caused O-rings to swell-up.
@cstew8355
@cstew8355 2 года назад
If you didn’t talk on your videos then there would be no point watching.. cheers warren talk as much as you can brother… you are a very interesting chap
@navigatorx1017
@navigatorx1017 4 года назад
It's a lawyer thing on the head bolts. Inexpensive way to cut own on liability.
@jimforsyth2.
@jimforsyth2. 2 года назад
Sharp out 99% of the time ,but most chrysler hydraulic units use a taper sided snap ring with sharp side in
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