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Vibrato: The Ugly Truth (Dramatic Sopranos) 

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"Don't worry about your vibrato. If you are singing well, then your vibrato will be fine." That's what I was told. But then I developed vibrato issues and I got passed from teacher to teacher who couldn't help me make any headway.
Wish I had known earlier that vibrato isn't something you just let happen and hope for the best. It is a technique that you can develop. Even if you have vibrato issues, you can get through them with proper training.
Check out the amazing vocal technique from Birgit Nilsson, Eva Marton, Ghena Dimitrova, and one bonus singer at the end. See how these ladies compared to some other talented singers who happen to struggle with vibrato issues like I did. They are all singing "In questa reggia" from Puccini's Turandot.
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Комментарии : 75   
@AlejandroHernandez-pq2wv
@AlejandroHernandez-pq2wv 11 дней назад
Excelente video. Por favor sube mas contenido acerca del vibrato y como entrenarlo de manera correcta!
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 11 дней назад
Thank you for watching! I'm glad you found it helpful. I will definitely plan on doing some more videos about vibrato!
@SteveL2012
@SteveL2012 День назад
Nilsson is the gold standard in this repertoire.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn День назад
👏😍
@p.w.e.2374
@p.w.e.2374 2 дня назад
The first one sounds like Anna Netrebko on a good day.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 2 дня назад
🤷‍♂😄
@theon9575
@theon9575 18 часов назад
😂👍🏻
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 16 часов назад
@@theon9575 Thanks for watching! ❤
@mikaelb7735
@mikaelb7735 12 часов назад
Superb comment!! :))
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 12 часов назад
@@mikaelb7735 It is so hard to hear a lovely voice that doesn't have the technique to match 😭
@danielphendarko2651
@danielphendarko2651 13 дней назад
The last singer is Anne Roselle! Glad to see she’s getting more love on youtube ❤️
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 13 дней назад
Isn't she amazing!?! Thanks for listening.
@paullewis2413
@paullewis2413 16 часов назад
The first example is absolutely appalling - unlistenable 😮😂
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 15 часов назад
@@paullewis2413 I know, it is devastating to hear a voice with so much talent deteriorate with technical difficulties! 😭
@mikaelb7735
@mikaelb7735 12 часов назад
Rosell and Nilsson the only ones that gave justice to this aria!!!
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 12 часов назад
They are amazing, aren't they?!?!
@jamesbingham4220
@jamesbingham4220 5 часов назад
If a teacher claims to “teach” vibrato find another teacher.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 4 часа назад
Thanks for your comment and for watching my video! My experience is very different than yours. When I developed vibrato issues in my 20's, I was so lucky to find a teacher who worked and helped me to fix every bit of the vibrato action. That obviously hasn't been your experience, but that teacher saved my career! Thanks again for being here. I hope you have a lovely day! ❤
@jasonhurd4379
@jasonhurd4379 2 часа назад
I am sorry you didn't include Gertrud Grob-Prandl. Her vibrato was so well-controlled it made Nilsson sound wobbly.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn Час назад
🤣She is FANTASTIC!!!! Thanks for your comment!
2 дня назад
Very Interesting, becuse many singing teachers say, that vibrato comes with time, and do not train it properly.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 2 дня назад
That is what I was told! And then when singers develop vibrato issues, teachers blame it on the repertoire, because most don't know how to fix it. Luckily for me, I found a teacher who helped me fix my issues! I wish more singers were as lucky!
@theon9575
@theon9575 14 часов назад
Like the majority of singing teachers*, I do not have a sucessful singing career behind me, but with a lot of listening experience it seems to me that there is vibrato and vibrato. The first kind is a deliberate & practised vocal technique that a singer can use for effect and depends on solid breathing and vocal training. It goes in and out of fashion, too , so that an '80s singer sounds very different from now, 40 years later. Even before...try Conchita Superviva 😉. The second kind of vibrato is an involuntary unsteadiness in the voice which develops with time, or in an overworked singer, or simply with age with weakened control over the singing apparatus including the lungs and vocal chords which inevitably comes with time. *ps i confess to a prejudice against 'most singing teachers'. The idea of setting up oneself as an authority with dogmatic and rigid ideas about how to do something that one can't do oneself seems ridiculous to me. Watch an E Schwartzkopf masterclass, for example, or Marylyn Horne teaching etc etc or any successful singer, you will never hear her blaming the repertoire for poor vocal technique. LOL ....
14 часов назад
@@theon9575 I agree completely
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 13 часов назад
@@theon9575 Thanks for your comment! The thing about the typical pedagogy, is we tend to blame myriad sources for vibrato issues and forget that vibrato is a technique that can be trained. Age itself doesn't cause vibrato issues. Singing for a long time with insecure technique causes vibrato issues. So I wouldn't say it is "inevitable." It's all about technique which for me is the VERY BEST NEWS! That way it can be fixed ❤
@4444marla
@4444marla 3 дня назад
Nilsson ran rings around all of them. Dimitrovna, huge but not clear like Nilsson. Interesting! The use of breath controls the vibrato!
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 3 дня назад
Breath is so crucial, isn't it?!
@4444marla
@4444marla 2 дня назад
@@evan-dunn It’s number 1.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 2 дня назад
@@4444marla Kristine Ciesinski used to say, "the mastery of the voice is the breath."
@user-vt5qn2tl3o
@user-vt5qn2tl3o День назад
@@evan-dunn Без правильного дыхания невозможно правильное пение! Это самое главное. Когда я только приступала к занятиям вокалом, меня в первую очередь учили правильно дышать.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn День назад
@@user-vt5qn2tl3o So true! I'm glad you had a good experience in your vocal studies. Thanks for your comment!
@Bravilor
@Bravilor 5 дней назад
I am wondering if it's considered good or a hindrance to be basically unable to "uncouple" the speed of one's vibrato from the tempo of the song. Is that perhaps the case for most people? When I sing my vibrato automatically adjusts to the tempo of the song. Sometimes that can be in a position where I have to kind of choose between an oscillation that's too fast or one that's too slow to feel natural. (For example when the 16ths are too fast and 8ths too slow). Then I wish I could just let go and do what's natural. If I do manage to uncouple it, I lose my bearing tempo-wise.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 5 дней назад
That is such a great question! Vibrato is a semi-reflexive action in the voice. That means it is like blinking in that you can choose to blink, not blink, blink fast, or blink slowly AND your body can blink without you thinking about it. The same is true for vibrato. A vibrato can just happen on its own. However, for most people that means that the speed isn't controlled and there can be glitches in the vibrato action. If you have a fully developed vibrato, you can speed it up, slow it down, and use it to release the tension in your voice. Keep working on it! Do you have a teacher who helps you with your vibrato work? I hope you are finding joy in your singing!
@ZENOBlAmusic
@ZENOBlAmusic 9 дней назад
But if you slow down Nilsson's vibrato of course it will sound wider because it is slower. I don't see how that makes any point. That is part of the problem the vibrato can slow down with age. Or some singers creates an artificial vibrato by vibrating the mouth and tongue, where they can do all types of stange things. Part of the reason why "dramatic sopranos and tenors" these days often have wide and slow vibratos is because they over push their middle voices to sound more dramatic, because they are not real dramatic singers with big voices.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 9 дней назад
Thanks for your comment! The point of slowing down the vibrato is that when you listen to Birgit Nilsson at face value, her vibrato doesn't sound wide. This makes it easy to assume that vibrato SHOULDN'T be wide, when in fact, vibrato should be VERY wide. It just shouldn't SOUND wide. And it is true that singing the wrong rep, or pushing your voice can exacerbate vibrato issues. But most people don't realize that the vibrato issues already existed for most singers long before they started pushing the wrong rep. Just because the vibrato issues are small when a singer is young, doesn't mean that they have a healthy vibrato. Vibrato slows down with age NOT because a singer is getting older, but because they have been singing with a faulty vibrato for a longer amount of time. If you sing with a healthy vibrato, the vibrato won't slow down when you age! You just have to keep training it effectively. I hope this helps!
@beauburkhalter6602
@beauburkhalter6602 2 дня назад
Stemme and Goerke. My goodness. I think Elena Pankratova is the best Turandot the Mets had in a while
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 2 дня назад
It is a challenging role, but it becomes impossible if the technique is struggling!
@smurf902
@smurf902 День назад
Goerke is disgusting. She used to be halfway decent. 2010/2011 onwards, she's hired simply because of reputation and name, doesn't matter how she sounds apparently.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn День назад
​@@smurf902 Thanks for your comment! I understand your frustration. I definitely wouldn't say she is disgusting. She is a lovely person, with amazing leadership skills and a passionate artist. She has her vocal struggles, but I'm really glad that she performs despite any technical issues. That takes a lot of bravery too!
@jjlungdoc7472
@jjlungdoc7472 День назад
I am not sure “ slowing it down” has any value because by definition is not real. Besides, Nilsson’s voice was known for being essentially “ vibratoless” or as close to that concept as ever heard. How she managed that is another question.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn День назад
Thanks for your comment! The value of slowing down the vibrato is to show that there is more to Nilsson's vibrato than meets the eye. You are exactly right . . . she had a vibrato-less feeling to her voice. But that can be deceiving for singers who try to imitate a vibrato-less feeling in their own voices. When in reality, the healthiest vibratos are very wide, like Nilssons! It is just that if you aren't trained to hear it, then you won't know that what is happening. Hope this helps and I hope you have a lovely day! Keep singing!
@jjlungdoc7472
@jjlungdoc7472 День назад
@@evan-dunn understood. Thank you for your reply.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn День назад
@@jjlungdoc7472 No problem!
@downfromkentuckeh
@downfromkentuckeh 7 часов назад
A little wide, but not as bad as I've heard in the past
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 7 часов назад
Thanks for watching! Which singer in particular are you thinking of?
@danielhanson3200
@danielhanson3200 15 дней назад
Is the first singer's vibrato slow and too wide?
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 15 дней назад
If you listen to it slowed down, you can hear that it is a similar width to Nilsson's. Perhaps a little wider, but similar. The main issue is the accent of the vibrato.
@danielhanson3200
@danielhanson3200 15 дней назад
@@evan-dunn is the accent inverted, i.e., inverted vibrato?
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 15 дней назад
@@danielhanson3200 Yes! That is a fair characterization.
@draganvidic2039
@draganvidic2039 6 дней назад
It’s a wobble more than an inverted one
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 6 дней назад
@@draganvidic2039 Thanks for your comment!
@danielhanson3200
@danielhanson3200 15 дней назад
I thought caprino was tremolo or bleat, meaning the vibrato action is too fast for most people's liking. For instance, Lauri-Volpi had caprino, despite having great high notes.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 15 дней назад
I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you asking if the terms caprino, tremolo, and bleat can be used interchangeably? If so then, yes, that is how I used them in this video. Tremolo refers to a technique used on string instruments where the instrumentalist repeats the same pitch with quick bow changes. It is fast, but the main issue for singers is the lack of width. There are many singers with quick vibratos who also keep it wide: ie Titta Ruffo.
@danielhanson3200
@danielhanson3200 15 дней назад
@@evan-dunn tremolo is used in piano playing as well, often with octaves.
@danielhanson3200
@danielhanson3200 15 дней назад
@@evan-dunn sorry, I was not clear. Until your video, I thought the three terms only referred to a vibrato action that is too fast, making it unpleasant to most listeners, not that the width of the vibrato not being wide or big enough.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 15 дней назад
@@danielhanson3200 That makes sense. Thanks as always for joining in the conversation. I appreciate you.
@ransomcoates546
@ransomcoates546 15 дней назад
You fail to mention that that one soprano with vibrato issues is singing extremely flat.
@JuanCarlos-cd1tq
@JuanCarlos-cd1tq День назад
Que tonteria
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn День назад
Thanks for your comment! Sorry it wasn't very helpful for you. Understanding vibrato in depth has been a crucial part of my vocal development, and the development for my students. Hope you have a lovely day and keep finding joy in your singing!
@draganvidic2039
@draganvidic2039 11 дней назад
Christine Goerke 🤦🏻‍♂️
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 11 дней назад
Vibrato is so hard! Especially if you aren't lucky enough to get really good training 😭
@draganvidic2039
@draganvidic2039 6 дней назад
@@evan-dunn She later on got an inverted vibrato and sings more flat than ever, a truly horrific voice nowadays.
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn 6 дней назад
@@draganvidic2039 😭
@CH-tj2ru
@CH-tj2ru 4 дня назад
Your hating ass gets on my damn nerves 🖕🏻
@smurf902
@smurf902 День назад
CG needs a good year or 2 to completely rework her voice and someone who is brutally honest with her. And not sing ANYWHERE until that pitch is fixed. But of course she won't.
@unclelouie3828
@unclelouie3828 День назад
Cut all 'this' b'shit. It's the end result that counts! How about Supervia? People would BOO her today. And , Olivero etc It is what it is. GOT IT??
@evan-dunn
@evan-dunn День назад
Hello! Thanks for your comment. I'm not sure if you are saying that you like Supervía and Olivero as singers. I love them! 😍 Regardless I hope you have a great day.
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