Video Guide Laminator 11 - Mounting prints behind acrylic 

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@@ZenithArtSystem Hey, I bought about 2 weeks ago, adhesive film (from your shop in Bonn). I can't get the printed photos without very small bubbles on acryl! Everytime, after printing (using a Canon Pro 100S - flawless print), adding film to photo (flawless), I get very small bubbles on acrylic/plexiglass (visible only if using a led frame - all 4 sides have a led light). I printed already 5 times and everytime I get those small bubbles. I've written in english for others who may have similar issue.

@@as6488 Without seeing the bubbles I guess you are talking of the really tiny ones, which are called "Silvering Effect". Those may come from the paper you are using to print. Which paper do you use? It needs to be absolutely smooth, like a high-gloss photo paper or our synthetic paper (printable PP-Film). Also the best results will be with extruded acrylic glass (XT). Here the thickness tolerances are normally less than in the GS-Version.

@@ZenithArtSystem Thanks for your reply and sorry for delay. Using XT Evonik 8mm (polished). Paper: A3 & A4 - pro platinum pt-101 (glossy). Printer: canon Pro 100S. Roller laminator (desktop version): 75mm width, cold, 64mm diameter silicon rollers. The issue I have is ONLY during last step: applying the printed photo (film already add) to the acrylic.

@@stonewolf777 Hmm. This is not so easy. Everything looks correct. Maybe you have not enough pressure? We found that in the last step you really need to apply a lot pf pressure. Or the rolls from your laminator are too soft? Or they are uneven? You can check this, if you put them together so that you only see a tiny gap and then slowly roll them. If the gap opens and closes you have a problem. Or maybe it is too cold in your workplace? Then the adhesive of the film does not "flow" nicely. Is it our adhesive? Where are you based?

Yes you do and the roller is a serious tool and not cheap but will last for years... The roller is called a DRS-1 for "Dust Removal System" the are widely available from companies who supply laminating films and adhesives such as DRYTAC... the manufacturers website is www.sdionline.com/ The tac level of the roller is color coded... for general purpose I recommend a red one... David Goetter large format application expert :-)

goetterdone what is the ballpark price range for one of these roller systems?

Matthew The roller is called a DRS-1 for "Dust Removal System" the are widely available from companies who supply laminating films and adhesives such as DRYTAC... the manufacturers website is www.sdionline.com/ The tac level of the roller is color coded... for general purpose I recommend a red one... David Goetter large format application expert :-)

goetterdone Sorry it took so long to reply! Thanks for your help!

Thank you !! We are offering an inkjet-printable Polyproyplene, which we call "Synthetic Paper". Available in Matte and Glossy, plain or self-adhesive. Check our webshop for the sizes and prices. You need a VERY smoothe paper for this, the best is a plastic foil. Otherwise yo may see little white or black spots due to the texture of the paper...

@@ZenithArtSystem Thanks a lot! I ordered a roll and hope now that the problems (spots you described) will be resolved.

@@wrobi2267 Yeah, thank you. Please feel free to contact us if you still have the issues and we will try to help you solving it...

Yes, kind of. You do not need a frame, the picture just hangs on the wall by itself. And with the acrylic it gets a spezial depth and glare, which you do not have with a "standard" framing.

Well, this is hard to answer without seeing it. Are the bubbles like tiny black or white dots or really big bubles? Size approximately? In which stage do the bubbles appear? It could be the paper? But I gues you have used the same. It could be the pressure of the rollers? Did you change it? The temperature? Is it "normal" room temperature? Also in the night where you store the roll adhesive? Finally maybe the Acrylic itself. Is it XT, i.e. Extruded Acrylic? The cast acrylic has more thickness tolerances so we do not recommend using this type.

@@DirkBilgen they are bubbles that are bigger than silvering. About the size of a thumbtack. I was able to mount the photo successfully by using an empty roll to wrap up the liner. This kept the adhesive tight to the roller and I also used less pressure.

Thanks for your comments. We are recommending to print onto our Synthetic Paper. This is Polypropylene instead of normal paper and therefore the surface is absolutely smooth Normally paper has some tiny differences in thickness or some texture. If you put it behind acrylic glass it works like a microscope and therefore you can see small inserts where the paper does not stick to the glass. Here you get black dots... If you want we can send you some samples of the Synthetic Paper. Please check our website or the Webshop... Www.zenith-art-system.de

That website in English ?

Yes, pressure is one of the possible reasons. Please try again with higher pressure. But also the rollers need to be quite rigid, if they are too soft, pressure will not solve the problem. Further, the type of paper is critical - it needs to be absolutely smooth, best is printable Polypropylene not "real" paper. Also the Acrylic Glass should be of very good quality and the type should be "extruded" not "cast". Some producers have quite high tolerances in thickness, which is a killer also...

The carrier of the adhesive is 12µm. The adhesive on both sides is 10µm, so in total 32µm. For more information please check our website...

You take a flat board (MDF, DiBond, Forex whatever) and stick a double-sided mounting tape on it (for example our KKD). The protective paper from the Mounting Film is siliconized, i.e. nothing will stick to it. This is the secret - simple but effective ;-) Then we stick another board to this plate which has the same thickness as the acrylic and also cover this with the double-sided film. This is the "step", which you need as the starter...

Manche kleben sich einen Streifen Laminierfolie oder Klebeband auf den Liner und versuchen, den Liner damit abzulösen. Ich selbst fahre mit meinem Finger mit etwas Druck an der Kante vorbei, so dass der Kleber an minem Finger "hängenbleibt". Mit dem Fingernagel auseinander-pfrimeln finde ich sehr schwierig...

We are building and selling it. Check us under zenith-shop.de

Thank you very much. The Blue Roller is available in our webshop shop.zenith-art-system.de It is called ASR-300 Anti-Static Dust Roller. shop.zenith-art-system.de/en/tools-accessories/laminating-tools/14/anti-static-cleaning-roller?c=32

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There are a lot of possibilities for this. Some of them are: - Not enough pressure - Rolls of the Laminator are too soft - Rolls of the Laminator are not absolutely even - The acrylic has too much variation in thickness - The Double-Sided Mounting Film is not from us :-) - The Media used is not from us :-) - The working space / storage room temperature is too low

@@ZenithArtSystem how soft should the rollers be, still rubber right? There is about 2 mm of squish at high pressure.

@@moosec6985 The rollers need to be hard. There should be no squish at all. It seems that this is the problem already...

@@ZenithArtSystem ok, I tried with the laminate warm and I did not get any silvering. I do it in my garage and it was below 60 degrees. That is too cold, correct?

@@moosec6985 60°C is super hot ! :-) But I think you talk about 60°F - yes, this is way to cold...

Thanks for your comment. We recommend our Polypropylene Paper because the surface is absolutely smooth. If you are using normal paper (or satin paper) there will be small white or black dots (silvering). This is because the surface of normal paper is not smooth enough. Our PP-Paper is printable with nomal pigment ink printers like Epson, Canon, HP, so there is no problem. We also offer it in self-adhesive! Yes, panoramic pictures tend to bend a lot. You need to add a stroing back plate like DiBond and a hanging frame made from aluminium to support it and hold it straight. Please have look at our webshop for all the above...

@@ZenithArtSystem Is it useful to use your self adhesive PP Paper and mount the Paper-Acrylic-Sandwich to a 3mm Dibond Board? Is the glue on the PP Paper strong enough for that?

@@chico11mbit Yes, we developed the PP-Paper just for this reason. And the glue is strong enough... We can send you a sample if you want...

Hello! Thanks for your comment. This is a very sophisticated high-quality product. I think you can find similar products in Indonesia of Chinese Origin, but they do not have this clarity. Of course we can send individual rolls also to your country. shop.zenith-art-system.de

Zenith Art System GmbH if you can know how much the price is rolling and how many meters long, if you can ask for no whatsapp, thank you ...

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