That's more than drunk driving; he drove right over the one person after hitting them, then fled the scene. Needs to be years in prison and permanent suspension of licence.
Ok someone who's clearly and literally drunk is one thing. Someone who's had a few or is technically over the BAC limit is another thing. To be perfectly honest, a guy who has a few beers, then drives normally concentrating on driving and the traffic is miles better than one random, cellphone addicted nitwit, who can't stop staring at and tapping buttons on his cell phone. And those people are far more common on the roads than actual drunks.
It’s not the first time he’s driven drunk, it’s the first time he’s got caught. That’s what a judge in a local court used to say to anybody trying that excuse.
Not the first time the adults played in the road. They had enough time to get to the right. Just because you have the right to do something dumb instead of something safe like keep right and ride single file.
@billwendell6886 you kidding? The cyclists were in the right lane (slow lane). The drunk behind them was in a hurry trying to pass the car in the fast lane. You might find it annoying but they were doing what they were supposed to do. Defending drunk driving is a bad look on you
Tires can sometimes distribute the force widely enough while human bones are made to flex just enough to avoid fracture. I was once standing on a corner right next to a jogger whose foot was run over by a municipal bus that cut the corner too sharply (the curb was bevelled for wheelchair access)--the jogger screamed in shock but after a minute of sitting down and flexing his foot, realised it wasn't really injured and ended up jogging away.
He said his bike and his helmet saved him from serious head injures. He's a 69 year old retired physician. He was knocked unconscious, had a severe concussion, broken ribs and as far as I can tell a bruised leg but that's it. He also said he doesn't remember getting ran over and watched tbe video back and couldn't believe it.
It's unfortunate, but cyclists have to be more selective about where and when they ride on city streets. Regardless of whether or not the driver is caught, the damage that can occur can last a lifetime.
In nyc you're not allowed on the side no matter how unsafe the road is i once got a ticket riding on the sidewalk and i was riding extremely slowly guess they rather have cyclists get hit by cars
Once again proving a little common sense goes a long way. No one thinks about the consequences of their arrogance until it's too late. Ride single file, stay out of the way of fast moving hunks of metal that weigh 2 tons. No one owns the road, but cars against bikes never goes well for the 2 wheeler. Why chance it?
@@PeterRabbitWhatsup : Don't have your driver's license, yet, do you, sport. Also, a guy just got trucked and your response is "wHy aRe thErE biCyCLes oN tHe roAd," so you're either terrible at trolling, or terrible at being human.
Remove his driving license for life. It is one thing to be driving drunk, another one to hit people but driving over them to escape. That is a person who forfeited his civil rights in my book.
They’ll probably find another incident in his record. __ On another note, BOTH cars were speeding, considering the presence a group of bicyclists. The black car was going too fast in passing them. I doubt they will pursue it, but I bet a couple cyclists, including the one with the camera, had their route software devices running that tells the speed they were going, & then you can work out the speed of the cars. I also wonder if the black car driver was drunk & they were racing. Maybe they know each other. They should contact the other driver for witness report, and dig a little.
Agree, the driver of the back vehicle appeared to be speeding, but hard to say, we need to know the speed limit is on that road. On the flip side, the cyclists should have been in single file over to the far right, instead of road hogging in parallel. Still, no excuse for the driver to intentionally run them over like that.
@@thepriusgod Yep US is really a fall off country, these kind of people like the guy you mentioned? Agreeing the the suspect and not the victim is crazy
Riding on the road isn't the problem, inattentive and malicious drivers are. I'm all of pedestrian / cyclist / car driver / truck driver, and I look out for the wellbeing of all other road users while I am using it too. It isn't my road, or my lane, or my crossing, it is public space paid for by taxpayers, of which cyclists make up a significant contingent.
@@LayzeeGiant Nobody lives forever, going by that logic even crossing the road is risky behaviour. I enjoy road cycling, and do it whenever possible. It's great for the body and biomechanically perhaps the best exercise. Makes me stronger as a result, and yes, car has hit me (car 100% at fault) and got a generous insurance payout of close to $100K which paid for a new bike among other things, with no long lasting injuries to have to endure. Life is good
Cyclists that bike in the street like that have far more faith in others (gas-powered-vehicle drivers) than I do. Glad they are reportably doing ok as that looked horrible.
Exactly! This is also why I've never been interested in motorcycles. If someone makes a wrong turn and we crash, I get out of my car, we exchange insurance information and life goes on. If he makes a wrong turn and I'm on a bike or motorcycle, I may not live to talk about it!
Nah, you can only make this argument in Texas because arriving at your destination 3 minutes early matters more than the lives of others here. In any other state, it is an expectation of the driver to be wary of their surroundings and react accordingly. The cyclists were in the right-hand lane. If the driver wanted to go faster, they would simply move to the left lane to pass. This is an egregious example of road violence that only happens in Texas.
They said he ran, right? He's going to prison LOL. You never run, no matter if it's a light fender bender. As a child the school bus I was riding got hit and the driver fled. I bet he's still in prison for that one.
No injuries? Wait for the x-rays to come back before making that claim. Wait for the cyclists to tell you how they feel the next day. Sometimes injuries, road rash, and bruises don't show up until the following day.
What reporter would say "no injuries" with no Xrays and that video? That is so implausible. Not saying they weren't seriously hurt, but I'm sure they took xrays already.
claim most likely policy limit is going be the bare minimum and no lawyer would wanna to sue him to hold him personal accountable pass his insurance policy limit.
If you only knew how many people driving on the road around you are driving revoked, suspended, revoked as habitual offender, unlicensed for CDL or disqualified... you might not even want to drive.
I think 60 days in jail should be sufficient, with a conditional release: He must maintain continuous employment to pay $1200/mo for 20 years to repay the $250,000 medical bills and pain and suffering bond; or return to prison for 7 years. And only be allowed to drive a vehicle equipped with a certified breathalyzer, which won’t allow the car to be operated if the BAC is more than 0.01 and which must be inspected for tampering every 90 days; and with an automatic collision avoidance system, like that Subaru may have. Subsequent DUI/DWI conviction or other felony conviction or operating an unrestricted vehicle within 10 years would be a mandatory 20 year prison sentence. That gives the guy a chance to mend his ways and live a meaningful life, instead of either a slap on the wrist or just uselessly rotting in prison. All would depend on what the court would find his character to be. That’s my opinion.
The thing about that is, there are people who get charged and convinced of dwi without any evidence other than an officer saying they saw something. So, no failed blood alcohol test, no video evidence, no failed sobriety test, no evidence whatsoever other than an officer telling a judge "they seemed to be impaired". Things like this are tragic, but I for one will never under any circumstances advocate for the law to have the authority to give you jail time simply because they feel like it. If we're being honest, they kind of already can. We just can't throw our hands in the air everytime something unfortunate happens and beg the government to govern us harder. This never leads to anything good.
I don't think those were minor injuries. Here is what the Fort Worth Start-Telegram said about the injuries: The victims were identified as Thomas Geppert, 69, and Deborah Eads, 65, both of Grapevine. Geppert’s injury was listed as a “severe laceration” and he was hospitalized at Baylor Scott & White Medical Center in Grapevine on Monday night. Eads’ injuries were also listed as “severe laceration” but were treated by paramedics at the scene and did not require hospitalization.
I was hit by a car while walking across an intersection. Driver didn't yield. Hit me hard. Broke my arm. Large cut on the back of my head, took eleven staples to close. Banged up my right knee. Turned out the driver was a 17-year old kid, driving home, and just three blocks away from his house.
@@francismarion6400 Pretty dumb comment man. It takes awhile to cross a street. Once you get the right of way as a pedestrian you have to go because traffic signals barely give you enough time to cross. It's the responsibility of the motorist to make sure there are no pedestrians crossing because god forbid an elderly person, child, or impaired person is trying to get somewhere.
As other have mentioned, the bike may have distributed the load. He was also unconscious and limp when the car ran over him which might have helped. And he was probably thoroughly warmed up and loose from biking, thus reducing injuries.
Geppert, a 69-year-old grandfather and retired physician, says he left the hospital with cuts, bruises, a fractured rib and a concussion. His bike is destroyed. “I think the bike saved me,” he said.
..................or people on their cell phones. With all the people I see with their faces down looking at their phones while going 70 MPH, I would never ride on a road like this, group or no group.
They almost always do. It's a big racket, a money-maker for the local govts. The person pays for an expensive counseling program and gets it back. Even if they have done it multiple times. Same for medical licenses, unfortunately. A doctor can sell prescriptions, work while on drugs, lose their license and get it back after a year or two.
The highways were not designed for bicycles, just motor vehicles. It's not a biking area. It's just not safe. Theres so many drivers that there's not even enough roads for the cars. Biking in DFW is just for the insane.
I understand what your saying I’m just saying it could be safer around here. I own three trucks and pay a ton of taxes to the state and county. That’s all
@@russellridge8623 Most roads are actually funded by local taxes on income and real estate. Federal and state roads are partially funded by gas taxes. There is no road tax unless it is a toll road.
one reason i quit riding on roads long ago, for the driver.. 5 years in prison, 50K fine, loss of license for 10 years, probation for 10 years... if i were king
The person that ran them over is a lunatic. As an avid cyclist I NEVER drive side by side like that- it's 100% the drunk drivers fault but I always ride on the far left to avoid this exact situation. Its probably legal for them to take a whole lane but why risk it?
@adrians.7489 baby, I'm sure you mean you ride on the far right, unless you're in England. One of the bicyclist was riding on the right and was hit first.
@@SPECTORMANZyou’re absolutely right on both counts 🙏🏽. Yes the person was on the right that got hit first, but they were also 1.5 yards away from curb. I personally try to stick really close to the right but in this case not sure it would have made a difference. This person was drunk and reckless !
@@adrians.7489 I have been doored, so I try to make a balance. I see there are no parked cars, but why do we have to be smooshed next to the curb were all the debris are?
there are different ways to see that.. here where i live its often recomended to TAKE your room on the street with the bicycle.. going far on the right side makes people with car overtake you even when oncoming trafic, going very close to you.. when you take your space - like a mofa or motorcycle - then the car can not overtake when there is oncoming trafic, has to wait some seconds and then change lane for overtaking
Glad to hear everyone is expected to make full recoveries. I’m now retired but at several points in my career I tried to take the pounding stress off my body from running and switch to road cycling. Never lasted more than a few weeks. It’s by far the most dangerous activity I ever participated. For all you cyclists that say, “what we do is legal” I’ll leave you with what my dear old dad used to say, “you may be right, but you’d be dead right. Please stay safe.
@@joebloggs24 The idea of mixing high mass, high velocity vehicles with low mass, low velocity ones is just not very smart. Even if there were no idiot drivers, the math says, in any accident, someone is likely to die. It would help if we purpose built our roads to accommodate that mix but by and large, we haven’t.
@@shakey2634 Vehicle weight and velocity isn't the fault of the roadway, it's the driver who makes key decisions about what to do with that machine that ultimately decides whether you or someone else dies in an accident. Personally I think they should bring back in the mandatory practical driving test when renewing your driver licence if not each time, every second or third renewal. Who cares if bad drivers fail it, get them off the road until they can drive with enough competence to actually pass.
@@shakey2634 oh wow so maybe get rid of the cars? they create artificial distance between every destination. a walkable society with rail is better in every regard.
@@yert5035 I’ve spent a good deal of time in countries like that, and they clearly have some advantages. We could certainly evolve a more intelligent mixed use philosophy between private and mass transportation. I would hope that that would include wider roadways to more safely accommodate bicycles. And there are regions in this country where that will work and a lot of this vast country where it won’t. So for now, ride at your own risk and let’s hope no soccer mom texting her friends doesn’t clip you in her Suburban.
0:51 It looks like he was face down and the vehicle ran over his Pelvic area. Maybe the bicycle somehow attenuated the crush forces. It amazes me, too, when these injuries are relatively minor.
My right knee was ran over by a 65 ford pickup truck when I was 17, i have no idea how but I only had bruising and it was sore for a couple weeks. Friend started backing up as i was getting in and the door knocked me down and bump bump, ran me over lol.
@@beingsshepherd Yea it's a sad part of being an American and having our roadways that are so big and wide and our cars are so big and are traffic is not hospitable to pedestrians or bikes. Bike Lanes be darned they aren't getting me out there.
@@brucechristensen2161 Cyclists ride in the middle of the lane to discourage car drivers from making unsafe passing maneuvers. It usually works, and it's really no big deal when there is a passing lane for cars to use, as was the case in the video. It doesn't help with inattentive drivers, though, which is why many cyclists use radar car detectors.
@@brucechristensen2161dude, you're supposed to be in the road. That's where cars do go. It's just the part about not watching for the bikers that's crazy.
It wasn't intentional. You can see he breaks at the last second, but it was too late. He was either not looking at the road or nodding off. The reason he ran the guy over at the end was because he was drunk and panicked.
Looks to me like the driver was trying to pass the vehicle in the left lane. If that’s the case all his attention is on passing the vehicle rather than paying attention to what’s in front of him. It’s sort of like people who swerve around a car that has stopped at a crosswalk only to hit the pedestrians the stopped car was waiting for. It’s aggressive driving and lots of drunk drivers are known for it.
This just proves my cycling rule : _”Thou shalt have no trust of vehicles whatsoever.”_ Never assume they see you or will yield to you. It’s your job to protect your own life. If you leave it to them, you’re just rolling the dice.
@reneeandchrisforever A real world where people drive drunk A LOT and endanger you and your family (don't have to be on a bike)? What a messed up world. Yet, let's blame the cyclists.
@@thefox47545 That may be true but what I’m talking about makes that part irrelevant. You have to look out for yourself _regardless_ of whether they’re drinking & driving. IE - Yes, it only adds to the problem, but the problem persists regardless of that factor.
@@thefox47545Didn’t blame the cyclists. Just pointed out it’s your responsibility to be prepared in life. Things are gonna happen and if you can reduce putting yourself at risk, it would be prudent to do so. I would never ride a bicycle down the middle of any road in DFW area. Ever.
I would never trust drivers enough to bike in the road. There seems to be this expectation from cyclists that drivers are going to pay special attention to what the cyclists are doing for their safety, and some drivers are just not going to do that.
You’ll notice if they are in a bigger vehicle than you you will be bullied…cyclists and pedestrians are at the bottom of the status items..a big Mack will have the most clout on the road…get out of my way ! As they tailgate you..
@@TheSirJiggs And to be certain you don't hit the cyclists, what do you have to do? Pay special attention to them. If a cyclist happens to run over a big rock or something and fall over in the street, you have to be ready to slam your breaks on.
@@JonasC22Yeah that's called driving a car. If bikers make you nervous, then you shouldn't be driving. As a driver there are all kinds of things that you must pay special attention to, bikers notwithstanding.
@@TheSirJiggs As my original comment states, not everyone is going to do that, of course I think they SHOULD. A person on a bike is more vulnerable than anything else on the road, so yea they require drivers' special attention.
@@tomstickland Clearly not in this case. Here in the US cyclists are expected to keep to the side, not obstruct traffic. Vehicles are expected to pass while giving wide berth. If cyclists commonly took the whole lane they would find themselves universally hated, things would not go well for them. Think of how those green activists who block roads are regarded, cyclists would be attacked and very few people would have any sympathy for them.
@@3ducs You compare cyclists to green activists? Activists you're referring to, by design, prevent travel on a road. Cyclists are traveling on the road; you can drive around cyclists when it's safe to do so. Not comparable at all, but you know that, don't you.
This is why we need fully separated bike lanes everywhere! Forcing cyclists to ride in traffic is dangerous! These roads are deadly by design, so we need to redesign them to be safer for everyone.
I couldn't agree more. We not only need fully separated bike lanes but we also need bike-only paths. Too many communities install only "multi-use paths" where you have bicycles, pedestrians, skateboarders, scooters, stroller-pushing parents and wheelchairs all on one path. It's just a multitude of accidents waiting to happen. This is why I ride on the roadways 99% of the time, and try my best to keep an eye on my mirror so I don't get run down like these poor folks in the video.
@@MTMiser Yeah I cruise at around 12-15mph on my roadbike, riding it on a path that's not maintained and has cracks and rootbumps, and tons of foot traffic is asking to get into a wreck. The road is literally designed for vehicles with rolling wheels and since the law legally recognizes a bicycle as a vehicle it's allowed there.
Forcing? They’re choosing. I live in the country and those idiot cyclists ride on roads that have no shoulder and its all blind corners. You wanna take the risk, that’s on you, I’m never shocked when I hear about cyclists getting hit. They’re stupidly over-confident that people are watching them.
Driver definitely needs some jail time. But imo bikes shouldn't be ridden on public highways where the speed limit is above 35 mph. It's just too dangerous and with everyone on cell phones it's suicidal. I rode motor cycles for thirty years but since cell phones, I've pretty much quit riding on public roads.
WTF are those bikes doing in the middle of the road. What about that? These stupid bikes ride in the road like they are a motor vehicle. If they want to ride in the road they should pay registration and insurance like motor vehicles do.
Thanks for dressing up for the camera, Janel. You sure look professional in that undershirt. I'm surprised you didn't match it with some pajama bottoms.
It most definitely is. However, the prosecutors and judges are more worried about drug crimes TBH. So most charges will probably be dropped and will get counciling
Dear God please heal and restore those poor cyclists out doing a wholesome activity. Help them, Lord, what a terrible ordeal by yet ANOTHER DRUNK BEHIND THE WHEEL. Thank God they survived and hopefully will recover in full.
It is just not safe to ride a bike where cars are driving. My friend rides a bike and got hit twice by cars. He's finally admitted. He will not ride where there's traffic.
Why are cyclists on the road without a license? Don’t cities, counties and states all through out the country have bike paths, paid for by taxes, for cyclists to use?
When you ride a bike on highways with cars whizzing by you, you have your neck stuck way out. A friend was killed while riding his bike on a highway in the breakdown lane and hit from behind.
I’m in my 60’s and I’ve been hit by vehicles twice while biking. The last guy that hit me had expired license plates, and no insurance. I had a shattered right wrist and a totaled Felt racing bike. But I’m alive. Please watch out for bicycles. 🙏🏻
@@divinecomedian2 Learn what lesson? That a bike is a vehicle and cars must treat them as such..? Learn the lesson that degenerates that hit people catch felonies???
Some roads have the whole lane designated as a bike lane. I'm seeing a lot more of them where I live. But I wouldn't trust any driver to avoid not running me over on any these lanes bikes share with cars.
@@mikesaetern8263 Mike you really have to low of emotional intelligence to be driving. It's probably better to let your mom drive you around until you acquire the emotional intelligence of a toddler at least.
@@mikesaetern8263 One bike on the road is one less car on the road which means you can drive your lazy self a bit faster because of less traffic. Is it really that difficult?
That's horrible and I'm glad the 2 on bicycles miraculously only had minor injuries, but for someone to be selfish enough to ride their bicycles taking up an entire lane slowing traffic from 45mph to 15mph...you're asking for trouble.
Yeah, totally selfish and just asking to get life changing injuries on a public highway. I'm glad to read you are partially blaming the cyclists to absolve some responsibility of the drunk driver. The American Way!
Trial ALWAYS needed, but quickest ever …. 20s video clip, defense gables for 3m, jury decides before even being seated in jury room. Judge mildly annoyed didn’t even have time to take a wiz, sentences drunk to max. 5m done.
I’m not excusing the driver, he should serve a long prison sentence. However, it’s time we rethink allowing bicycles on the road. Residential streets? Maybe but business streets no. It’s ridiculous.
