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VidMe or Why Platforms Aren't Your Friends 

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Blip.tv also positioned itself as "just pals" but that idea of "we'll let the users guide our growth" was a paper mask hiding a lack of core vision. They would make a lot of promises and did a lot of posturing vis a vis supporting creators and helping them develop content, but in the end Blip's business model was "get bought by someone bigger." That kind of worked out for them as they were bought by Maker Studios who were, themselves, in the business of getting themselves bought by someone bigger. So Maker buys Blip so Disney will buy Maker, opens Maker.tv as a hypothetical curated database clone-and-re-skin of Blip, but closes the whole thing within 18 months without ever actually re-launching the Blip creators they went out of their way to retain in the merger. As it turned out they had no real interest in developing content when they could just skim ad revenue off the 50,000 channels that fell below payment thresholds, and withhold payment en masse in order to milk the interest on the payroll account.
Written and performed by Dan Olson
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@whynotanyting
@whynotanyting 2 года назад
Update: Vidme shut down later in December of that year due to Google, Facebook, and Instragram being cited as "too competitive," by Warren Shaeffer. In 2021, A pornography company bought the domain and any article or social media post that included an embedded vidme link now contained hardcore porn.
@SeleenShadowpaw
@SeleenShadowpaw Год назад
*chefs kiss*
@hauntedsunsets
@hauntedsunsets Год назад
this is the funniest possible outcome, thank you so much for this vital update
@NexusSpacey
@NexusSpacey Год назад
Thank you for the update
@ShockedLogic
@ShockedLogic Год назад
got curious and checked what porn company bought it, something called 5 Star HD Porn (yes, literally that generic) and I daresay is the VidMe of porn sites, nothing had any views, literally 0, and everything was an upload from 'admin'.
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 Год назад
Watching this video with this as the first comment I see is just beautiful. Like the opening monologue of Romeo and Juliet telling you how this story ends, and making it all the better.
@Jader7777
@Jader7777 7 лет назад
You have a garden You plant flowers, you get flowers You plant weeds, you get weeds You plant nothing, you get weeds
@MrMoon-hy6pn
@MrMoon-hy6pn 4 года назад
If you plant flowers, you get flowers, and weeds
@someanimal3506
@someanimal3506 4 года назад
You have a garden, you get weeds.
@crepperwlp
@crepperwlp 4 года назад
You plant weed, you get high
@charalampospapaioannou2371
@charalampospapaioannou2371 4 года назад
@@crepperwlp You get too high, you suffocate from low pressure
@Calpsotoma
@Calpsotoma 4 года назад
Weeds have no botanical definition, only a agriculture one. It's agriculture definition is basically "a plant where it is unwanted". A stalk of corn in a soy field is technically a weed.
@PhilosophyTube
@PhilosophyTube 7 лет назад
So glad someone else is saying that the relationship between creators and platforms is inherently antagonistic; it's an example of the relationship between capital and labour, so ofc it is!
@mlovecraftr
@mlovecraftr 7 лет назад
+
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 7 лет назад
Philosophy Tube oh shit waddup!
@victorbarraza4910
@victorbarraza4910 7 лет назад
so... what's the story behind your account?
@PhilosophyTube
@PhilosophyTube 7 лет назад
Mine? When the British government chose to triple tuition fees I decided to give away my Philosophy MA for free online so anybody could learn what I'd learned without incurring debt
@greenghost2008
@greenghost2008 7 лет назад
communist detected.
@doughboydevito4529
@doughboydevito4529 7 лет назад
Personally, Dan's tone is less "salty", and more "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed in you wasting your potential, young man"
@alex_roivas333
@alex_roivas333 7 лет назад
XD
@Herrikias
@Herrikias 7 лет назад
When will Dan let Vidme love him?
@vinesauceobscurities
@vinesauceobscurities 7 лет назад
Getting old does that to you.
@tomjung4960
@tomjung4960 6 лет назад
Calling a majority of the innocuous content creators on vidme "dregs" is pretty salty
@Matrim42
@Matrim42 6 лет назад
Tom Jung I don’t think you know what that word means.
@chelseajupiter2103
@chelseajupiter2103 7 лет назад
The "Tell us how to make it better!" thing is just an easy way to appease onlookers. It's not about actually fixing the problem--it's about making sure you don't look bad in interactions.
@goateeguy11221122
@goateeguy11221122 7 лет назад
I wouldn't say it's about whether they look bad in interactions so much as it is a sincere lack of understanding what they can do to fix the problem. They want to be better because someone's not happy, but they need the critic to do the thinking for them because they don't know how.
@peregrinusoblivione4967
@peregrinusoblivione4967 6 лет назад
@@goateeguy11221122 They failed.
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 4 года назад
Dan's right that it's more than that. Two low-cost ways to get people to contribute work hours to the benefit of your for-profit company are 1) to make it appear as though it benefits the contributor in some vague or general way beyond compensation, that is, without a paycheck for their work, and 2) to invoke a moral obligation on the part of the contributor, like the pressure they tried to put on Dan to submit criticism as a form of unpaid work for the company, because otherwise, the responses imply, he's being "negative" and not "constructive". "Building the community" or "helping the community", and the lie that "we're all in this together", do both. And for very little cost, it _will_ work on certain people.
@ziglaus
@ziglaus 2 года назад
What? No. You are working under the assumption that no company can monetize their customers satisfaction, which this would definitely be a step in achieving
@OhNotThat
@OhNotThat 11 месяцев назад
It's trying to turn critics and complainers into free unpaid market research laborers AND do some damage control to onlookers who are given at least the impression they are seeking to improve and seeking public participation. In reality, you owe them no such thing and shouldn't engage further beyond your complaint. You don't "owe" a failing business a solution to their own incompetence.
@Will-tu3fh
@Will-tu3fh 3 года назад
It's made me realise that RU-vid Premium is just returning many of the features RU-vid previously had to their new subscribers
@iprobablyforgotsomething
@iprobablyforgotsomething 3 года назад
Yep. For a price. Since they know the features were well received, they know they can hold them hostage until we cough up the monthly fee in return for the safe exchange of the options we already had when we began using yt in the first place...
@lightypower3412
@lightypower3412 2 года назад
@@iprobablyforgotsomething Switch to a cracked version of YT then, and *starve them fuckers*
@mltfkyu
@mltfkyu 2 года назад
@@lightypower3412 how can i do that?
@lightypower3412
@lightypower3412 2 года назад
@@mltfkyu I got "YT vanced" for my phone off the internet, but there prolly are others
@ThisisnotTwitter
@ThisisnotTwitter 2 года назад
I say that every time YT throw one of their own adverts at me offering their "best ever deal".... No. On sheer principle, I will never pay you subscription fees for what you already demonstrated could and should be free. I remember a time where it would utterly unthinkable to force you to watch one advert, let alone have multiple ads in the middle of videos! Do not allow your perspective to be lowered.
@qetzia
@qetzia 7 лет назад
people asking for free labor on the web and passing it off as helping the community? groundbreaking
@creamithmanning2632
@creamithmanning2632 7 лет назад
Please sign up for VidMe HEROES!
@prod.hxrford3896
@prod.hxrford3896 5 лет назад
"labor"
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 4 года назад
@@prod.hxrford3896 Yes, that _is_ labor. That's why, as Dan explains *(**13:56**),* the people he's addressing either have _paid_ people to do what they asked Dan to do for free, or they're incompetent. What's described is people spending their time and energy, measured in work hours, to benefit the bottom line of a company. The company can either pay them for time and energy they could employ elsewhere to earn a living, or it can use various low-cost methods to trick them into seeing what they're doing as beneficial to themselves or a moral obligation, "helping the community" being a top contender, because it uses both dishonest approaches.
@swine13
@swine13 4 года назад
Yeah, im helping the community _help me_
@barkingdoggo3331
@barkingdoggo3331 4 года назад
imagine doing art online- yeah.
@grahamkristensen9301
@grahamkristensen9301 2 года назад
Something tells me if VidMe survived a few more years, they would've gone down the same path as Gab and Parler.
@ya9thelatinogringo
@ya9thelatinogringo Год назад
It was already pretty much there by the end
@twenty-fifth420
@twenty-fifth420 Год назад
Ehhhhh more specifically Rumble, but I get your point.
@MananaMan
@MananaMan Год назад
I know for a fact that Gab, the company itself, was very vocal with it's own politics and if I'm not mistaken, so was Parler. The harsh truth is that the majority of "alt" platforms are inevitably going to get people who have fringe ideology whether the company like it or not and the platform has a choice of sacrificing its early adopters with draconian censorship or try to stay afloat long enough for people not as politically inclined to give your company it's platform. Odysee seems to be doing well but it still has yet to iron out a lot of its jank.
@paultapping9510
@paultapping9510 Год назад
​@@MananaMan"politically inclined" and "draconian censorship" are very interesting framings of the respective behaviours.
@MananaMan
@MananaMan Год назад
@@paultapping9510 Is it? They seem pretty predictable to me.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 7 лет назад
Thanks for putting into words why I feel sick inside every time some social media thing tries to push this we're all friends vibe. No, you're a business. A thing that exists purely to make money. Decent work deserves decent payment, and non-decent work shouldn't be worth asking for, so asking for it kinda gives the game away.
@wheatboi8255
@wheatboi8255 7 лет назад
Jane Ross Not only are businesses focused only on making money but you're three times more likely to find a sociopath in a board room than a jail cell. Businesses aren't your friend and it's rediculous to think otherwise. They're more like rabbid dogs barely held back from tearing you apart by the chains of regulations and self interest. Chains which is gnaws on constantly while dreaming of day when it will finally be free.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 7 лет назад
Nothing I'd disagree with there. That's absolutely where you want your thickest concentrations of your strongest regulatory chains, if you're gonna have capitalism at all.
@DocteurRipeur
@DocteurRipeur 7 лет назад
I worked for a music platform few years ago with the same promise you describe : "it's gonna be for all the bands that are forgotten by the music business". It was music, therefore way cheaper than videos and no competitor as omnipotent as youtube (even less back then)… . But still, I can tell you one thing : you are absolutly right. Defining our relationship with musicians was out of question… my colleagues were scared to drive people away if they displayed some rules. They were afraid to look like dictators if they started to select the content… The outcome was predictably this : we had no real added value, we couldn't agree on any system to actually help the musicians (which would involve some sort of selection) so all the half-decent bands started to flee. Then, the reputation of the platform went from "meh" to "there's only garbage in there". And now… its pretty much an unknown zombie platform… that used to make great promises. I still think there's room for alternatives out there. Despite google. But it has to be done right.
@OhNotThat
@OhNotThat 11 месяцев назад
These platforms all suffer from the same flaw as Buzzfeed and the "chasing of the good money after the bad". That is they make almost no real effort to retain, nurture or help anyone involved merely rentseek with little strings attached. BuzzFeed Unsolved as a break away hit for BuzzFeed, it was frankly the only notably success they had and what did BuzzFeed do with it? Nothing. Just took their cut and of course, "Unsolved" simply left BuzzFeed to start their own thing. These platforms are indeed mildly doomed, because they don't reward or attempt to retain any of their star performers so end up with them all leaving for greener pastures and everyone left behind are just the dregs who can't make it. Deadweight, weighing the whole platform down... the bad performers (the bad money) crowding out all the good ones. When 90% of the hosting money for expensive web servers is wasted on conservative video parodies of pop music that only gets 652 views the site is circling the drain
@zackosborn1731
@zackosborn1731 6 лет назад
Update: Vidme just went out of business.
@orionliketheconstellation3003
@orionliketheconstellation3003 4 года назад
Oop
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 4 года назад
Owned
@POP-nm1ix
@POP-nm1ix 4 года назад
Ouch
@thegreatmajora5089
@thegreatmajora5089 3 года назад
Oof
@milhousevanhoutan9235
@milhousevanhoutan9235 6 лет назад
"You're not paying me to do product development." I love the reiteration that work has value.
@Jojje94
@Jojje94 6 лет назад
The fact that Google are running RU-vid at a deficit should be evidence that video hosting is crazy expensive and in most cases you're doomed to fail. Google is just one of those companies that's "too big to fail"
@nathanclark2424
@nathanclark2424 5 лет назад
As in if they fail the entire economy is fucked? Or they are so big that it is literally impossible for them to lose money?
@minimooster7258
@minimooster7258 5 лет назад
@@nathanclark2424 a bit of both
@UmbreonMessiah
@UmbreonMessiah 5 лет назад
[CITATION NEEDED]
@force6769
@force6769 5 лет назад
that's not how you use "too big to fail"
@BloodSprite-tan
@BloodSprite-tan 5 лет назад
google has failed many times. look at google plus, that was a massive failure. google is able to take risk but they play very safely, they wouldn't put themselves in risk if they can avoid it.
@timf7413
@timf7413 5 лет назад
I think it comes down to the simple maxim: "if you're not paying for a service, you're not a client, you're the product"
@Journey_to_who_knows
@Journey_to_who_knows 4 года назад
The school to prison pipeline summarised
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi Год назад
In this context though, the creators aren’t the customer, they’re an employee. The viewers are the product, and advertisers are customers
@zyaicob
@zyaicob Год назад
This is a fundamentally capitalist view of the world and is absolutely correct in highly capitalist societies
@snaifhassnan6348
@snaifhassnan6348 2 месяца назад
419 😞
@stagpie6449
@stagpie6449 6 лет назад
Reminds me of when Digital Homicide asked Jim Sterling to be constructive and help them build a better game. 'I'm not your QA tester'. These companies have some nerve to suggest we do their literal job for them
@Huntracony
@Huntracony 4 года назад
Not talking about that specific instance as the DH guy was clearly an asshole, but I do think it's different with individuals or very small companies. In those cases, it's usually about the art and not about the money. Not to say that large companies don't care about the art, nor that small companies don't care about money, but when the art is the primary focus, I don't mind at all when they ask people to help out a bit for free. Though they certainly have no right to demand it, like the DH guy did IIRC.
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 4 года назад
@@Huntracony "care about the art"? Money is the primary driver for both big and small companies. It's literally a legal obligation. If a company is not dedicated to making money for investors, it is in breach of its founding documents. That's why there's an entire, separate body of law for non-profits. I understand the desire to believe that e.g. a smaller video game company is "in it for the art", but that's not true, and it's dangerously naive. Among other problems, it leads to a deluded belief that "in it for the money" can be applied selectively as a value judgment. They're ALL in it for the money.
@Huntracony
@Huntracony 4 года назад
@@MegaZeta The actually small companies I'm talking about are not publicly traded and have no obligation to investors because they have no investors. Of course they want to make money because they need money to live, but once they make enough to get by, art is definitely an important factor for many. I know, because I am one of them. Now go and fuck off to your happy place where everyone is a greedy bastard for no reason.
@GladiusTR
@GladiusTR 3 года назад
+Mega Zeta That's only for public traded companies. Privately owned ventures are usually run by,like, 3 people. See studio pixel for an ex treme example
@GladiusTR
@GladiusTR 3 года назад
@@doctordragon9798 I agree completely. I just wanted to correct what I saw to be an error
@Grillpander
@Grillpander 7 лет назад
God, I'm wishing for subscribable playlist for so long now. There are many creators out there whose content interests me only partially (maybe a certain format or just a specific let's play series of them). So I don't want to subcribe to their entire channel, potentially clogging my sub box. Ah, the dreams!
@TheNerd484
@TheNerd484 7 лет назад
One feature I would love is the ability to tag channels and easily go back to their pages without that channel's videos appearing in your sub feed.
@katedoes...9783
@katedoes...9783 7 лет назад
TheNerd484 Favourites, that's sometimes called.
@TheNerd484
@TheNerd484 7 лет назад
I'm talking about this for channels not individual videos.
@katedoes...9783
@katedoes...9783 7 лет назад
TheNerd484 I mean on other websites you can subscribe and favourite users.
@TheNerd484
@TheNerd484 7 лет назад
ok, thanks for clarifying!
@GyaroMaguus
@GyaroMaguus 11 месяцев назад
For people watching in the future: this video came out in June 2017, Vidme shut down in December 2017, and the domain name is now owned by a hardcore pornography website
@ImTopin
@ImTopin 11 месяцев назад
Because of course it is.
@saulitix
@saulitix 11 месяцев назад
Happy ending?
@HogandDice
@HogandDice 7 лет назад
VidMe used to have an anonymous upload feature that I think was probably their original selling point. But they have since gotten rid of it. The Feature would have had a lot of potential for ARGs but it was SO easily exploitable.
@FoldingIdeas
@FoldingIdeas 7 лет назад
Yeah, I'm starting to think their original idea was "Imgur, but for video" given their close ties with Reddit.
@Triggerhappy938
@Triggerhappy938 7 лет назад
Then it was "we don't have ads", and now they are actively courting advertisers by their own admission. I'm not sure any feature of their platform is sacrosanct.
@rickpgriffin
@rickpgriffin Год назад
@@FoldingIdeas Now imgur isn't even imgur anymore because of these same incentives
@ironbuzz_
@ironbuzz_ 7 лет назад
That bit about partition of power within a team channel is VERY important. A while back, there is this channel that uploads video of tournament matches of Smash Bros and someone accidentally renamed all of their videos to their most current upload(like Fix vs Tabu43 semi final state regional something to that degree) and it turned out to be irreversible. Just thousands of videos named exactly the same by someone who was probably an intern
@Gomosojo
@Gomosojo 7 лет назад
lol I think that was VG bootcamp and it was the founder, Gimr, that made that mistake. It does show how badly the youtube system is tho. He also had to delete literally every project M match since Nintendo threatened him which was horribly depressing.
@ironbuzz_
@ironbuzz_ 7 лет назад
Yeah didn't want to explicitly say VG bootcamp but thats what i was referring to. And i didn't know Gimr was the one who actually made the mistake thats too funny
@4thot
@4thot 7 лет назад
Smash Bros isn't even a real fighting game so who cares?
@AlonMoiseyev
@AlonMoiseyev 7 лет назад
4thot how is it not a fighting game
@theleeryone
@theleeryone 7 лет назад
Gomosojo No, it wasn't GIMR who did that. Where did you get that idea?
@chadpursley611
@chadpursley611 3 года назад
This is essentially what happening with Quora. Great Q&A community, but they have made affiliate program to create spam, focus on driving traffic that advertisers like, but that writers don't care about. Then popular writers leave the platform, but have nowhere to go.
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi Год назад
Quora always kinda sucked anyways, as before the answers were often just fundamentally wrong, especially on anything remotely subjective or controversial
@cc-to
@cc-to Год назад
@@Brent-jj6qi Yes! Some of the-most-wrong stuff I've seen has been on Quora.
@jameshart2622
@jameshart2622 9 месяцев назад
The number of physics questions I saw that had that problem. Especially when well-meaning people think they are protecting science by upcoming wrong answers, just because they don't understand that Issac Newton didn't know everything...
@blueisasomedancer
@blueisasomedancer 7 лет назад
I love that this is coming from someone who has been burned by a platform before. You obviously know your shit because you've seen it before. Also I think this plays into a bigger discussion of companies and organizations taking advantage of mostly young people to do work as volunteers that they really should be paid for. It makes it more difficult for professionals to find paying work and it takes advantage of people who don't know any better and devalues the contributions they make.
@zerakielvmark
@zerakielvmark 7 лет назад
It's the old "come work for us, it'll give you great exposure" trick but this time waving a few dollars in the distance.
@blueisasomedancer
@blueisasomedancer 7 лет назад
Zerachiel van Mark Definitely, though specifically I was speaking about asking randos on the internet for site design advice and, more concerning to me is the "evangelization" he talks about briefly in the video. Asking small content creators to essentially become brand ambassadors and lead recruitment for new people on the site while not actually paying them anything for it and claiming they'll see big pay days down the line once the site is successful. It just seems scummy and exploitive.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 7 лет назад
blueisasomedancer. it could be scummy, but theres always the chance that some people believe what they are saying. in other words, dont always attribute to intent what can easily be due to incompetence.
@tornadomimicyclone6707
@tornadomimicyclone6707 7 лет назад
This guy hasn't seen VidLii, as it's too small (but would probably change his mind). And he hasn't seen Bitchute, as you know what they put on that shit.
@dracorex426
@dracorex426 3 года назад
I'm from the future. Vidme went out of business and a porn site bought their domain. Now a bunch of news websites have hardcore porn embedded in their older articles.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 5 месяцев назад
I find that hilarious. Linkrot is a gift sometimes.
@SSJFro
@SSJFro 7 лет назад
I like you commented on the flaws of RU-vid playlists. One of my biggest complaints with RU-vid is that I can't subscribe to a single type of content produced by a creator. For example, I love the Honest Game Trailers series produced by Smosh, but I hate literally everything else Smosh makes. As much as I love the Honest Game Trailer series, I refuse to subscribe to the channel just because I don't want my subscription feed clogged up with all their other crap I don't care about.
@adrianlopez3373
@adrianlopez3373 4 года назад
SSJFro same for me with the Escapist, I just like Zero Punctuation
@Asocial-Canine
@Asocial-Canine 4 года назад
Thing is, you used to be able to subscribe to those "Show" playlists. I remember subbing to some series' on Machinima back in the day. I don't remember it working, as I don't recall ever seeing their videos in my feed, but that feature was there. YT just axed it with all their good ideas
@Silas_MN
@Silas_MN 3 года назад
This describes my relationships with both Screen Rant and Polygon. I just want Pitch Meetings and Unraveled, got it?
@Skittenmeow
@Skittenmeow 3 года назад
@@Silas_MN somehow I've managed to get screen rant to only suggest pitch meetings in my recommended. I think it's taken at least a year of dislikes/ not interested in all other screen rant vids and liking/ commenting on all pitch meetings... but somehow YT algorithm has noticed
@Zeverinsen
@Zeverinsen 2 года назад
@@Skittenmeow I think that's how it is for everyone, since that's the only thing people actually watch. Now Pitch meetings have their own RU-vid channel.
@SpottedAlien
@SpottedAlien 6 месяцев назад
So, 2 things. 1, seeing this video pop back up on recommended, then getting to the part where Dan lists all the things RU-vid does poorly. After six, very nearly 7 years, I don't think any of these are improved in the least. 2, when I tried to leave a comment about this on mobile, evidently the RU-vid app updated to a version where, when you try to leave a comment on a video, the timestamp feature messes with the Android keyboard, functionally freezing the screen and making it uninteractable until it manages to click off. Great platform. 🙃
@Babakifo
@Babakifo 5 лет назад
I know I'm finding this late, but This Dude is a BEAST! He calmly, smoothly, authoritatively, and with great attention to detail, began the autopsy on the still(at that time?) living corpse, and then only bothered to do the Y incision before stating the cause of death. DAMN!!!
@alexmcd378
@alexmcd378 2 года назад
Reminds me of the story about the bartender kicking out polite well behaved Nazis, because of you're not vigilant, you wind up running a nazi bar and wondering what happened
@ng.tr.s.p.1254
@ng.tr.s.p.1254 2 года назад
plus one has to wonder if those nazis would be so courteous if the bartender wasn't white 🙂
@almostclintnewton8478
@almostclintnewton8478 Год назад
That's such a spot on analogy!
@snowmystique2308
@snowmystique2308 7 лет назад
A few people here are saying that you're being salty, but all I'm seeing is you being potassium-rich.
@PasticheofSkin
@PasticheofSkin 7 лет назад
Snow Mystique K
@theofficialmuffincrc
@theofficialmuffincrc 7 лет назад
+PasticheofSkin ayy
@1berrylover178
@1berrylover178 7 лет назад
KCl - a salt containing potassium ions.
@PasticheofSkin
@PasticheofSkin 7 лет назад
Duck You cloride heavy, damn those metallaic salts
@SuperFlashDriver
@SuperFlashDriver 7 лет назад
Potassium-Rich. XD That's a good way to look at this video from your point of view. =u
@nyovyo
@nyovyo 4 года назад
can't believe i almost clicked off this video because of the release date. change "up-and-coming competitor" to "now-defunct competitor" and this could have come out yesterday. the points raised here aged really well. it's a shame nobody with the means seems to grasp that these are the real issues a true youtube competitor would need to solve.
@gentlemandemon
@gentlemandemon Год назад
watching this from the future, and its interesting to see how vidme compares with nebula. nebula seemed to address the problem by creating a walled garden for a youtube niche, rather than trying to create a direct competitor to youtube. I don't how the financials are panning out, but they still seem to be alive after more than a few years
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel 11 месяцев назад
Nebula is a black box waiting to be sold, then everyone will cash out and the platform will disappear
@gentlemandemon
@gentlemandemon 11 месяцев назад
@@sunbleachedangel I don't have their financials, so I can't say one way or the other. who knows, maybe it'll continue, maybe it'll collapse 🤷‍♂️
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel 11 месяцев назад
@@gentlemandemon not collapse, be sold out. That's how it was explained to me
@gentlemandemon
@gentlemandemon 11 месяцев назад
@@sunbleachedangel ok?
@Dylan_Platt
@Dylan_Platt 10 месяцев назад
​​@@sunbleachedangelahh, good thing some genius explained it to you so you could come explain it to us. Too bad neither they nor you include any details, reasoning, context, or, y'know, any other information that would give us the least bit of confidence that you/they aren't just making shit up. "Hey y'all! This just in -- Nebula is gonna buy Twitter back from Elon and change its name to Twitbula! That's how it was explained to me" See how it reads?
@jslimefeld
@jslimefeld Год назад
This was published in June and Vidme tanked in December, btw
@gameworkerty
@gameworkerty 7 лет назад
It's interesting to compare video makers with the more disjointed, more locally hosted and harder to parse podcast world
@mlovecraftr
@mlovecraftr 7 лет назад
I see many podcasts I follow distribute their audio through many platforms like Soundcloud, Stitcher, Podmass and even RU-vid sometimes. Personally, I mostly follow them on Soundcloud but I prefer to listen on whatever is the default on their websites, which tend to be better organized. Also, podcasts use the HTML audio tag infinitely more than video content creators use their tag.
@J1428753
@J1428753 6 лет назад
less bandwidth, easy self-hosting thanks to rss feeds and compatible podcast apps (few of which do video podcasts), and _plenty_ of hosts (audioboom, libsyn, podbean, hipcast) which treat themselves as the mere storage and bandwidth providers they rightly should be considered as (seriously, the combination of treating your product as an interface _and_ raw resources is an easy way of limiting product-to-product mobility among users--and they damn well know it). the fact that there are _options_ there is key, but more importantly is that they are cool with just accepting the fact that *money can be exchanged for goods and services.* None of that advertising bullshit that brings your platform (coughyoutubecoughfacebook) under heavy fire because--surprise surprise--ISIS likes effectively free services just as much as the next guy and the advertisers that keep your service in existence dislike ISIS just as much as the next guy. *actually asking for payment* for people to use your website not only acts as a form of quality control, but it guarantees that your existence actually depends on your value to your users compared to your competitors--_not_ your value to the advertisers that will pull out the second their brand is going to be tarnished.
@Karma20XX
@Karma20XX 7 лет назад
The security concerns are a reality. One artist I follow had all of her video titles and videos redirect to some spammers website. Turns out her MCM got hacked and everyone in the network had their channels tampered with. I'm actually floored this doesn't happen more on RU-vid. I think we're all looking for the next RU-vid. I'm really done with the abuse of Copyright claims.
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel 11 месяцев назад
Fucking Linus Tech Tips got hacked recently, absurd
@ShamanEffect
@ShamanEffect 7 лет назад
"Work for us. We'll help you get exposure." Me: "People die of exposure."
@iprobablyforgotsomething
@iprobablyforgotsomething 3 года назад
*applause* I love it, will share it, thanks!
@laurenbastin8849
@laurenbastin8849 4 года назад
Basically, fledgling companies will act like they’re out to help their customers until the second they no longer rely on them and can shove them into a ditch
@ianderk6527
@ianderk6527 7 лет назад
I have the feeling that RU-vid's recent moves have been about competing with Twitch more than anything else. The change from Hangouts On-Air to RU-vid Live was friendly to the tech savvy person investing in a lot of content creation, but the tools were unfriendly to casual users. My students have complained about constantly watching ads on educational videos and the poor communication about copyright concerns. A competitor that focused on developing a platform for schools or universities might have some small business potential, but it probably wouldn't have enough to compete with RU-vid at this point. iTunes U was basically a good idea that became a graveyard, and that's the best example of an educationally-focused platform I can think of outside of RU-vid.
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi Год назад
5 years later, yeah, you called it. RU-vid is slowly improving streaming, while twitch shits the bed and tries to use flowery language and sugarcoating to hide the fact they’re screwing over top creators by going from 30/70 to 50/50, while YT has always been 45/55 advertising revenue, and more for donations and the like
@TPRJones
@TPRJones 6 лет назад
Holy hell, this is the most scathingly dismissive take-down I have ever see, executed with precise professionalism at every step. Bravo.
@s.l.r.9407
@s.l.r.9407 3 года назад
Hey good vid! Constructive criticism - don't show tweets in the subtitles area, you force the viewer to close subtitles in order to read them (example at 9:56). Hope it's useful!
@Aspharon
@Aspharon 2 года назад
If you're on PC, you can actually just drag the subtitles upwards if they block anything! I do agree that creators should generally avoid this, though
@s.l.r.9407
@s.l.r.9407 2 года назад
@@Aspharon On mobile, sadly :P
@joseaguilar3323
@joseaguilar3323 7 лет назад
It's a bit ironic that you start by saying you won't give them feedback for free and then you proceed to give them very helpful constructive criticism.
@HeatherHolt
@HeatherHolt 7 лет назад
José Aguilar right?? I was hoping I wasn't the only one who noticed...
@tx7300
@tx7300 5 лет назад
youtube ad revenue
@Flowtail
@Flowtail 5 лет назад
Not like they took it
@AzaleaJane
@AzaleaJane 5 лет назад
That's how Dan O. do
@ninjanippledog725
@ninjanippledog725 5 лет назад
@@tx7300 No, it's feedback *they* can seek out, instead of him just feeding them info straight to nowhere, and still helps us understand what platforms are like/how to possibly look at things instead of default 'pals'. Valuable info for us, under the pretense of what they said on twitter, and then expanding it. If they want to seek criticism, they can, and he states they should be, rather than just giving them a big email of stuff they should already know.
@MaxMarriner
@MaxMarriner 7 лет назад
I'm glad someone's finally addressing VidMe's many, MANY problems. Honestly, given how its community operates with such heated self-serving masturbation, it's really refreshing to see serious criticism.
@tornadomimicyclone6707
@tornadomimicyclone6707 7 лет назад
Most of these don't affect VidLii/BitChute, so this video should be renamed to solely refer to VidMe as the problem. There are better alternatives, but VidMe just so happens to be the most popular.
@NoahNasi
@NoahNasi 6 лет назад
VidLii is the worst video sharing platform. Basically, it's full of 13 year old boys that shitpost, that likely never even used RU-vid before 2011.
@100billionsubscriberswithn4
@100billionsubscriberswithn4 4 года назад
Did Vidme even have an actual community?
@JCOdrjones
@JCOdrjones 2 года назад
@@NoahNasi and now bitchute is a full on alt-right RU-vid. Shame
@KetsubanSolo
@KetsubanSolo 2 года назад
@@JCOdrjones Dan basically predicted that outcome in this vid, from a certain point of view lmao
@joshuacaulfield
@joshuacaulfield Год назад
I know I am 6 years late to the party, however this video does a fantastic job of explaining the challenge I am facing in explaining how the national base of a federated (meaning having chapters in this context) association needs to engage with it’s chapters. While the focused nature of your video and high concept language will make it impossible for me to simply show this video and explain using our own terminology and concepts, you have still provided me with a frame of thinking that I can use as a foundation for a strategic realignment. Thank you.
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel 11 месяцев назад
The more things change, the more they stay the same
@RJ4989
@RJ4989 10 месяцев назад
Remember when every article on the internet had a comment section? They slowly all disappeared…Remember the feeling of being able to actually talk with other humans on sites like Reddit and even if you’re in an argument you still feel like you’re part of a community? Now just participating feels dirty because our time is the product, literally sucking life from us for giant media-opolies to churn parts of our time on earth into ad revenue. Well it used to be just ad revenue, now our interactions form “inferred identities” that (in the most tin foil hat sounding way and I can’t believe I’m talking like this) are being used to help these same monopolistic corporations reinforce their total control of how we communicate with one another, where we get our information and basically informed most of our reality.
@kisskissyangyang5252
@kisskissyangyang5252 3 года назад
the fact that you posted this just 5 months before vidme shut down is emblematic of your know how.
@orijimi
@orijimi 7 лет назад
Hell of a video, man. Eye-opening, to say the least. I don't know if it's the case for Vidme, but it seems most of these underdog sites with the hate-mongering userbases are that way because the creators made a point to know that they, specifically, were welcome. That's their own hole they dug. I'm surprised that these sites actually were intending to compete, one would think they were intending be a more lawless version of the site they resemble and that was all that mattered. Maybe that made sense to them until they discovered that subset of mankind wasn't nearly as big as they thought. And how those people don't actually want a place for themselves, because their existence isn't validated without a wealth of respectful people to berate.
@Novabug
@Novabug 7 лет назад
Hate mongering? Have you read the majority of comment sections in RU-vid? Sheesh. Time for someone to remove Google's stranglehold I think, free market is good.
@thegayestgoth
@thegayestgoth 6 лет назад
Not for yt
@CoWinkKeyDinkInc
@CoWinkKeyDinkInc 6 лет назад
take a look at Voat, what was to be alternative to reddit is just filled with a bunch of braindead retards bitching about fat people.
@GEhotpants101
@GEhotpants101 6 лет назад
" bunch of braindead retards bitching about fat people." RIP all the little communities on Voat that aren't FPH.
@alexcaffri9091
@alexcaffri9091 2 года назад
I honestly thought dailymotion was just a bunch of pirates pretending to be RU-vid
@xingcat
@xingcat 7 лет назад
I think most competitors miss the two things that RU-vid has above all else, and that's performance (videos almost always play right away, play from where you left them, and play under just about all circumstances) and monopoly (RU-vid is embedded in any website with the click of a button, for the most part). That's why most competitors, unless they're very focused on what they do well (Vimeo seems to have carved out a nice niche for filmmakers, for instance) will fail. Also, I consider RU-vid to be, above everything else, an ad delivery platform that happens to use video search results as its delivery mechanism. Whether those videos are good or bad, helpful or harmful, big or small matters less than the fact that there's enough in the search results to keep people clicking on things that deliver ads to their eyeballs and bring data about what they searched for back to advertisers. Yes, subscribers and repeat viewers are very important, but it's my belief that RU-vid would consider themselves just fine if they abandoned the subscription model altogether, though it would be disastrous for creators.
@qtheplatypus
@qtheplatypus 7 лет назад
xingcat I don't even have think that google's real interest in RU-vid is even as an add delivery tool. It's real interest is in farming youtubes user base for information to feed its bots.
@xingcat
@xingcat 7 лет назад
I can 100% see that, as well. Information is the key to the kingdom these days.
@xingcat
@xingcat 7 лет назад
Or data, I should say.
@TweenkPL
@TweenkPL 4 года назад
That's not how RU-vid ads work. Advertisers don't get detailed data on who watched their video, they only get aggregate metrics (e.g., this many people watched the ad and this many clicked). There are actually videos on this site that explain what advertisers can see, because buying advertising on RU-vid is actually something anyone with a few dollars can do.
@LeadHeadBOD
@LeadHeadBOD Год назад
11:30 like most stuff on RU-vid, I am not surprised "Shows" got silently killed and has left old channel public playlists in a disarray.
@1917girl
@1917girl 4 года назад
The fact that someone is willing to outright criticize PewDiePie is so refreshing
@Sleepy-Atlas
@Sleepy-Atlas 2 года назад
thats true, i dont agree with him, but its nice to see that there are multiple sides to it.
@polygondeath2361
@polygondeath2361 2 года назад
Nothing brave, happened thousands of times.
@TheDrawnBlade
@TheDrawnBlade 2 года назад
@@polygondeath2361 bit of a delayed response there, ey, buddy?
@polygondeath2361
@polygondeath2361 2 года назад
@@TheDrawnBlade “delayed” implies I conceived it a while ago. I didn’t.
@moondog548
@moondog548 2 года назад
It's 4.5 years later and I had never heard about VIDME til now.
@2dopington
@2dopington 7 лет назад
It seems like some people are distracted by the pewdiepie point, but regardless: what was either harmful or harmless nearly tore down a system that supplies a good amount of creators' livelihoods. If RU-vid wasn't as developed as it currently is, the possibility of a competitor taking root could've been viable. But as it stands, a competitor can only compete by building upon youtube's weaknesses (as described in the video) its kind of silly for vidme to act as buds with the creators without building a system within their own site that lends a connection between creators and siterunners. Newgrounds is a site I would consider that could be a serious competitor for RU-vid if it had a somewhat more monetizable design. It's more creator-friendly but unprofitable. Seems like there is a catch around every corner.
@QuickQuips
@QuickQuips 7 лет назад
2dopington I was thinking of Amazon. They have the power and infrastructure to do so and access to Amazon prime video and audio.
@wheatboi8255
@wheatboi8255 7 лет назад
2dopington Also Newgrounds is cesspool of bitter manchildren and trolls on par with reddit. RU-vid has trolls. But the amount of hatred and derision I received upon uploading to Newgrounds was several magnitudes greater than the worst I've received on youtube. I've actually only ever received very rare and half hearted attempts at trolling here. While on Newgrounds it wasn't uncommon to find comments telling me the miriad ways I should kill myself.
@domonizationanimation5055
@domonizationanimation5055 7 лет назад
I agree, but not all content on RU-vid would be appropriate for Newgrounds. (Let's Plays, vlogs, commentaries, etc. ) Newgrounds is great for art, animation, games, and music though. And you'll definitely get more exposure there than on RU-vid if you're a little guy.
@Rhino-n-Chips
@Rhino-n-Chips 7 лет назад
Tom Fulp probably should've made the flash portal into it's own site, because Newgrounds was the ancestor of all edgelords. No company wanted to work with a site with games about clubbing baby seals and school shootings, it was spared corporate mooching but also any sponsorship outside of porn banner ads. Plus the angry teen vibe chased away a bunch of great animators, I know a few that disappeared off the internet for all the shitty treatment they got. The site feels like it was made as an edgier counterpart to another site that never existed.
@reneelucero2923
@reneelucero2923 6 лет назад
...What does this video have to do with Communism? Why do americans bring politics into everything seriously wtf.
@zoot_
@zoot_ 8 месяцев назад
god damn everything said here applies to Kick, lookin 6 years into the future with this one.
@TheTrenchcoatNinja
@TheTrenchcoatNinja 7 лет назад
7:00 transphobia is definitely the correct term to use here. It makes me really uncomfortable to have the word homophobia be used when anti-trans sentiments are being displayed, because it makes me feel like someone is equating the two yet again (gay men != trans women) I have faith you know this from the general awareness of things you show in other videos, and I respect your uncompromising willingness to speak out against toxicity
@FoldingIdeas
@FoldingIdeas 7 лет назад
The video with the hoses, she's banging the tips together going "See, male male, don't go together, even hoses know what's right." In retrospect I wish I had said "queerphobia" instead as a broader term, but that hose video was the one that was front and centre in my mind.
@Paralellex
@Paralellex 4 года назад
From the economic side of things, monolithic social platforms (think RU-vid, Twitch, Facebook, ect.) are incredibly hard to displace because of the social aspect. People are on Facebook because their friends are on Facebook, and likewise they're not on Myspace because their friends aren't on Myspace. Like you said, any platform trying to dislodge a "social monolith" as it were has to come at it with a dumptruck full of money, quite a bit of which should be used to throw at content creators in order to get them over. The interesting thing to me is that Facebook, Microsoft AND RU-vid are doing just that in order to try to get a toehold into Twitch's market. Maybe they think twitch is weak right now and they'd like to grab the video-game streaming pie all for themselves.
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi Год назад
Interestingly, discord seems like it actually originated from humble origins, but that’s likely because all you needed when they started up was to have laid back and fair moderation along with the ability to store text, and 10000 messages is a second of video Also, two years later, yeah, you were right about twitch. RU-vid is improving at a snails pace, while twitch shits the bed
@bcatalogrecords
@bcatalogrecords 7 лет назад
One of your best pieces so far Dan. I've ran down these same arguments as you and my approach to designing a successful youtube competitor lies in making its money through Patreon. Since many youtubers no longer make revenue from the site, content creators en masse are using Patreon to meet their wage goals. It would seem that Vidme should make its own Patreon clone and connect it directly to the site and their users. Instead of Patreon getting the percentage of donations, it would go to Vidme (or whatever hypothetical clone comes along.) That is how you would pick up a the dregs and "toxic" rejects and still be profitable. So either Vidme needs to work on a Patreon clone or Patreon needs to make a RU-vid clone. The model is right there in front us though.
@flyrefi
@flyrefi 7 лет назад
Dan-O just tossing out those burns
@sephreed1938
@sephreed1938 7 лет назад
Fuck yer burn!
@Kuudere-Kun
@Kuudere-Kun 7 лет назад
The main thing most RU-vidrs want out of a potential alternative is not having such a guilty to proven innocent system for alleged Copyright violations. The problem is a website literally about Copyright law will just lead to the Government trying to take it down. The challenge is in finding out how to efficiently deal with Piracy while still respecting the Fair Use clause.
@TweenkPL
@TweenkPL 4 года назад
A better system is legally impossible unless major changes to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act are enacted.
@spencerrogers1103
@spencerrogers1103 7 лет назад
hey man just wanted to say your very well spoken. I find that often your viewpoints and thoughts often make me think on a deeper level. keep making awesome content man!
@TheBlarggle
@TheBlarggle 7 лет назад
Here's a thinker for you. You used both instances of "Your/You're" in your sentence, but only once correctly.
@Happy156
@Happy156 Год назад
just found this and man, this guy was ahead of his time! this exact same thing is happening to Twitch with the new "competitor" Kick and what you said would happen is currently happening again in a whole different medium!
@karl0ssus1
@karl0ssus1 2 года назад
And 6 months after this, Vidme would go defunct, citing an inability to compete with facebook and google. Their domain would eventually be bought by a porn company, and inevitably old dead vidme embeds suddenly started displaying porn. Isn't the circle of life magnificent?
@LastDr3am3r445
@LastDr3am3r445 5 лет назад
There truly needs to be something akin to a union for content creators, something to protect their interests and livelihoods, because platforms have no incentives to treat their creators with respect and decency.
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi Год назад
Honestly, we still don’t know if RU-vid is making a profit, they just might not be able to
@GrieferOhhai
@GrieferOhhai 4 года назад
Class struggle explained through youtube creators vs. platform owners.
@yondie491
@yondie491 3 года назад
I'd be interested to watch a Parler follow-up after the coup
@HebaruSan
@HebaruSan 2 года назад
From a user perspective, I've been waiting seventeen years for the ability to subscribe to a playlist. I can bookmark playlists into the sidebar, but there's no way to make the constituent videos show up in the subscription feed as they're added unless I subscribe to the overall channel, which only makes sense if I want to follow 100% of what they do.
@DariaPlaysRPGs
@DariaPlaysRPGs 5 лет назад
Coming into this video very late, but was having a group discussion on what had happened to vidme, why they were terrible, and why they failed and a friend linked this video as a good summary (which it is!) but just wanted to comment that a vidme representative swooping in to defend the the platform on Twitter is hilarious because I'm a nobody, relatively, and they would do the same thing to my threads complaining about the platform at the time. Vidme was, if nothing else, very diligent about the whole social media public relations thing. :P
@firewordsparkler
@firewordsparkler 7 лет назад
This is such a great breakdown of the relationship between platforms and their creators. Coming back from vidcon and hearing about RU-vid's new features from RU-vid versus the recent history of creators on RU-vid really established a disconnect. This makes it clear why that is and what other platforms can do to entice users.
@gwenfranklin8242
@gwenfranklin8242 Год назад
In the Uk "tossed off" is slang for a certain sexual act so the phrase "tossed off for a reason" made me chuckle
@trutherdave6005
@trutherdave6005 6 лет назад
And a few months later, you're proved 100% correct 👍
@thekylemarshall_
@thekylemarshall_ 7 лет назад
You were able to put into words what I've been feeling for a while. I've dabbled with VidMe because I do think it's important not to necessarily rely on only one platform for content. But I was disheartened to see which videos were promoted on the front page. Thanks for making a well thought out video!
@franswiggidy
@franswiggidy 7 лет назад
I always like your take on things.
@systemhalodark
@systemhalodark 7 лет назад
Because he bothers to stop and think instead of jumping bandwagons?
@waldobutters01
@waldobutters01 7 лет назад
other than the odd pewdiepie dig, agreed
@-sanju-
@-sanju- 17 дней назад
​@@waldobutters01 I mean it wasn't wrong.
@empanada223
@empanada223 Год назад
All of this _still_ applies today, folks.
@desmondbrown5508
@desmondbrown5508 4 года назад
Yeah, it's one of the problems with most businesses. They respect you when they need you... but as soon as they don't, they couldn't give two shits about what happens to their content creators... even if they are some of their best (not the ones that make the most money, but the ones that create some of the best content).
@certaindeathawaits
@certaindeathawaits Год назад
You talking about what a site was built to do being most important has made me reflect on Tumblr. Tumblr was created by David Karp in 2009 as a website that allowed for better self expression than other sites. The only website Karp saw similar potential in was RU-vid, and (this was in 2011) he found the idea sickening, as RU-vid seemed very ad-oriented. Read the TechCrunch interview with the CEO. I think that, with the right management, Tumblr could be a "good" platform, whatever that means.
@paulisaperson0516
@paulisaperson0516 7 месяцев назад
I think what you’re describing is why Nebula has been so successful
@nickzanet
@nickzanet 3 года назад
Just stopping by to say hi now that a porn site bought vidme's domain so a bunch of news articles linking to vidme videos have porn in them
@c.l.6957
@c.l.6957 3 года назад
Very interesting to watch this again after the launch of Nebula
@CoinOpTV
@CoinOpTV 6 лет назад
RIP Vidme
@GreenFox1505
@GreenFox1505 2 года назад
5 years later and all the youtube problems mentions remain unfixed.
@varagor23
@varagor23 7 лет назад
Your analysis about building the right userbase is spot on. This is exactly what happened to Voat when it tried to be a reddit clone.
@BasketOfPuppies642
@BasketOfPuppies642 3 года назад
Almost 4 years later and this is still the only time I've heard of Vidme. And apparently Vidme has been out of business since December 2017. Good.
@reeenji
@reeenji 6 лет назад
And now VidMe will be shutting down on December 15th
@CadekFenrir
@CadekFenrir 3 года назад
needed to watch this again given the vidme news.
@cadavison
@cadavison 7 лет назад
Well said. I would tip you, but there doesn't appear to be a tip jar here so...
@fanboycrossing
@fanboycrossing 5 лет назад
Looking back at this video in light of the whole "Epic vs Steam" thing could make for an interesting followup.
@aescling
@aescling 2 года назад
a similar response could have been made for mastodon in the ways it has blatantly aped twitter, with an interesting development on the way it exploited its userbase in that, as open source software, it exploited (and its creator now outright profits from) outright design and implementation work performed by its own userbase
@zpskk
@zpskk 2 года назад
I thought about mastodon here too. Especially when he talked about curating your market - mastodon has a lot of cool people on it due to its advantages over twitter, but it definitely also hosts the "too toxic for Twitter" folks.
@abbie_joan
@abbie_joan 4 года назад
in other words RU-vid needs to take notes from discord on how to give multiple people different power on one or more channels without complete access to the account
@michaelbuehler3897
@michaelbuehler3897 Год назад
The problem with these alt video sites is that they are just reupload sites and don't have a lot of original content.
@SpeedyXGunz
@SpeedyXGunz 7 лет назад
Pauses video. Looks up "cruft." Hits play, and continues.
@SpeedyXGunz
@SpeedyXGunz 7 лет назад
Badly designed, unnecessarily complicated, or unwanted code or software.
@hockeater
@hockeater 7 лет назад
Also likely abandoned or no longer used.
@MendisZenias
@MendisZenias 2 года назад
I legitimately wish I was half as eloquent as Dan.
@truckingwithatablet4489
@truckingwithatablet4489 2 года назад
Same here
@BushySniper
@BushySniper 7 лет назад
I absolutely love the term 'mildly doomed.'
@zEropoint68
@zEropoint68 6 лет назад
the site that surpasses youtube will be built on a business model that promotes individual pieces of content based on _how much content is created in response._ the one thing everyone wants back on youtube is video responses, and from the "i've been here the whole time perspective", you can see where that video response system is essentially what _built_ youtube. the site wouldn't be what it is today if the initial purpose had been monitization instead of fostering genuine interaction between users.
@rossamundbrennan7248
@rossamundbrennan7248 3 года назад
Well I wasn't expecting this to be where things ended up for vidme.
@CallMeMrRook
@CallMeMrRook 6 лет назад
Rewatched this due to the now demise of Vidme recently.
@Tausami
@Tausami 2 года назад
"In July 2021, the Vid(dot)me domain name was acquired by a pornography company. As a result, news articles and social media posts with an embedded Vidme video instead displayed hardcore pornography. The Washington Post, New York Magazine and The Guardian were some of the major news sites that were affected" -Wikipedia
@niccage6375
@niccage6375 2 года назад
It's basically only fans. It's like if some company bought Hollywood video but became a pot dispensery
@TheMasterpiece911
@TheMasterpiece911 6 лет назад
No matter which of your videos I watch, they're all amazing. I wouldn't believe myself if I told myself I'd be watching RU-vid commentary where a guy stands in front of a nondescript screen just talking, but your arguments, your insight, your opinions are, truly, a revelation.
@MrHarumakiSensei
@MrHarumakiSensei 7 лет назад
I remember RU-vid in its first couple of years. It very much had that 'let's be pals and work together to make this site big' vibe. Then it got big and forgot all about the 'pals' part.
@spuriusbrocoli4701
@spuriusbrocoli4701 Год назад
I wonder if there's ever been a "Sonic for Real Justice"-type situation w/ channel managers fighting over a single YT channel.
@anthonydipoce1015
@anthonydipoce1015 2 года назад
It's funny. I've watched this video a few times since this came out, but I only just checked the fate of Vidme after the most recent watch in 2022. I never realized it was gone within 6 months of this Video.
@ccateni28
@ccateni28 6 лет назад
Vid.me didn't even last that long to become the bad guy, it just died after not enough creators got onto the site and not enough advertisters joining.
@housewares
@housewares 4 года назад
The dog that doesn't bark in this fine-tooth-comb critique is Vevo, backed by literally the Big Three of the music biz, nonetheless failing somehow to steal away the viewer base in even in a relatively narrow space of music videos and pop-celebrity-related crap; its chief legacy being the appendage of fake Vevo trademarks to online jokers' usernames. Rather than recapping the many, many, many platform defects and Vloggers With Cooties whom we're all supposedly concerned about, take a stab at the reason average consumers seem to like RU-vid...
@Folly_Inds
@Folly_Inds 2 года назад
Man, this mirrors the social media site radical exodus of the last year in an interesting way
@arcmage7000
@arcmage7000 2 года назад
Revisiting this video now that everyone's talking about Nebula, can't help but assume it might go the same way.
@dropyourself
@dropyourself 2 года назад
The thing is nebula has fixed all of the issues he's talking about, so I doubt it
@user-xsn5ozskwg
@user-xsn5ozskwg Год назад
They have a clear monetisation structure and are backed by another streaming service. They're not invincible or eternal, no platform can or should be, but they've got good bones.
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