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Vienna's (New) Tipping Problem 

Khyati & Puria
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Tipping in Vienna is a hot topic! Traditionally, a small tip showed appreciation for good service. But is this changing?
The Issue:
- Some feel tipping is becoming mandatory, not a way to say thanks.
- Takeaway spots are asking for tips too, which some find surprising.
Why the Change?
- Minimum wage might not be enough for a good living, especially with inflation.
- Fewer people want these jobs if tips are low, hurting businesses.
The Question:
- Should customers pay more through tips to fix a broken system?
- Or should waiters get a higher base wage and tipping become optional?
Let's Discuss!
What do you think about tipping in Vienna? Share your thoughts below!
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Комментарии : 75   
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff Месяц назад
American here, I'm sorry! I fucking hate tipping, makes interactions so awkward.
@Nurseangel1004
@Nurseangel1004 3 дня назад
52 years living in Vienna and Never ever was asked how much i would Like to tip. Man.... where are you all going
@austriamex
@austriamex 7 дней назад
Well me as an Austrian living in Austria I just tip how much i want, if I dont like the service I wont tip at all.
@radhikaacharya4344
@radhikaacharya4344 Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing your perspective. Our experience was that the service quality was terrible in most of the restaurants we visited. Most waiters gave the impression that they were doing a favour. We preferred not to tip ! Rudeness can be a local tradition, if they are serving a foreign tourist, they cannot really expect them to appreciate it and reward them!
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
That’s very unfortunate! Usually we do come across friendly waiters…but I agree the level of rudeness is unacceptable
@arnoweldert6797
@arnoweldert6797 7 дней назад
That is Vienna. Most livable City in the world, but als the Most unfriendly. (it has von both awards)
@pelton1
@pelton1 Месяц назад
I don't have answer for this problem. In Brazil they add a 10% charge at the bill. It is not obligated to pay, but people in general pay it and it is paid directed to the restaurant, unless you disliked the service and ask to remove it. The whole charges of a day is divided among all staff, no only waiters, but cookers, cashiers etc. Of course you can also give an extra tip exclusively to the waiter that seviced you if you want.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
Also interesting…haven’t seen that anywhere else.
@Curzon1999vie
@Curzon1999vie 2 дня назад
Austrian from Vienna here: I think I have never been asked how much I wanted to tip. I normally do (lazy multiplying amount with 1.1 on my watch). What I hate are tipping questions at card terminals when you pay at restaurants where you pick up the food by yourself. There was NO service. I never tip there but it is so awkward because the staff watches you
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria День назад
Agree I regularly ditch those places the next time, because I want to avoid that awkward situation.
@sarapanzarella97
@sarapanzarella97 Месяц назад
So we just got back from our trip - which we had a couple days in Vienna at the beginning and end. I was surprised that the last 3 restaurants we went to - every server showed/asked if we wanted to add a 10% or our choice of tip. I liked this approach as compared to a restaurant sneaking in a 'service fee'. Plus the service we received at all of the restaurants was very good.
@charlotte7374
@charlotte7374 Месяц назад
I really struggle with figuring out how much I should tip. A system similar to Sweden, where everything is already included in the price, would be best.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
Agree, and you could still tip for extraordinary experiences if you want.
@paulpaul5032
@paulpaul5032 Месяц назад
oh man, I can feel that. very pragmatic video, I like it. I also don't understand why should I always tip especially for mediocre service. Ok, the waiter brought me my order from the kitchen to my table and that's it, I should tip for that? If I wanted to pay for delivery, I wouldn't leave home and get my food delivered right into my apt.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
The problem is that there are so many new jobs today where people might deserve tips. Many of these jobs are low-paid, but people still do great work without expecting tips. I'd love to tip more often my postman for handling packages carefully, and stop tipping rude waiters.
@Nurseangel1004
@Nurseangel1004 3 дня назад
@@KhyatiPuriathen do it, we dont have a tipping policy here and yes i live there since 52 years.
@kamiito5518
@kamiito5518 День назад
10% tip is great! Here in the US, the demand now is 20-25%! Its ridiculous!
@greenleaf8226
@greenleaf8226 Месяц назад
i have never been pre charged a tip for a takeaway coffee, or a self service coffee in a coffee shop in vienna... your experience what you spoke of was new news to me... personaly i dont care what the rules are, my tip size depends how good the service was... I love khyati's facial expressions when it comes to food tasting and/or service...💖
@mabelodedina9965
@mabelodedina9965 Месяц назад
I am glad that you made this video. I was told by waiter that tip is not included and he was adding a 10% and then round up to full euro, so it’s like 13%… in the beginning; so for the rest of the trip, I just added 10% automatically… now I know
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
I mostly carry some cash when going to restaurants. I pay the bill by card and leave a few extra euros in cash. I realized I tip much more if I tip by card.
@ViennaRobert
@ViennaRobert 10 дней назад
while you should never let a waiter do that, you should tip between 5 and 15% depending on your satisfaction of the service.
@nehabehl515
@nehabehl515 Месяц назад
Very educational video! Well done! I should not let my husband pay when in Vienna 😂. Living in Finland we (he) dont believe in tipping culture 😂
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
Same goes for Iranians and Japanese 😂 very bad tippers.
@ODexiko
@ODexiko 2 дня назад
In Theory, you don't have to tip, but in Praxis you should tip. I come from Serbia and live in Vienna for the last 20 years. The first couple of years, I didn't know that tipping was even a thing to consider. Paying for something more than it's priced seemed just plain stupid for me, but with years and experience working in Gastronomic Industry, I learned that I was wrong. Tipping plays a big role in motivation of the worker of how his or her service towards you will continue. I salute the strong Character that says it doesn't matter to them if they get tipped or not. They either get a good paycheck or are new to the Industry, but in most cases they are not. It is just the reality of things how they are now, but probably were always like this and will probably continue to be.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria День назад
I agree and always reward good service.
@GutnarmEVE
@GutnarmEVE 2 дня назад
"coperto" just means that they charged you for the ...cover? "gedeck"? like, 2 slices of bread and a napkin suffices. a thing quickly adopted from french high dining, upcharging decades ago to compensate revenue loss due to water-drinking tourists. (probably; revenue usually is in the drinks, served/prepared by 1-2 persons, not the food 5+ have been working on.)
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria День назад
Most of the time there is no "Gedeck" in Italy and they still charge "Coperto".
@Chowtime5481
@Chowtime5481 Месяц назад
I completely agree that if I have to go somewhere and pick up my own food there is absolutely no need for me to leave a tip. I will always leave a tip when I'm being served at a restaurant. If the service is between good and excellent. Tip is something that you earn and should not be expected. I'm not sure how it is in Vienna, the rest of Austria or the rest of the European Union, but here in the United States, any job that you work at you must have applied for it. What I mean by that is that there is no such thing as you getting a letter in the mail telling you that, even though you want to be a doctor, an engineer a farmer or plummer, unfortunately, the powers that be, decided that you are going to be a server at a restaurant. If you are a server and you hate that job then do something else. You don't have to be a server if you don't like your job don't take it out on the customers. Same goes with any other job, if you don't like the job that you have, do something else. Find something that you like to do or even better work for yourself and do what you want to do.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
Some people might not be able to choose and I definitely don’t see the mistake on the waiters side! The job is known for receiving tips and if the economy is booming it’s a quite lucrative service job. I see the problem more that it’s expected. It shouldn’t be necessary to expect tips. It something that culturally developed over time and is definitely outdated. We need to find ways to make running a restaurant more lucrative so I can pay my staff higher wages.
@snarepusher
@snarepusher 15 дней назад
I've worked in food delivery and I know that cashless tipping, especially since the pandemic, has been highly demanded by a lot of customers. I myself live on the 4th floor without an elevator, so I already know that I will be giving the poor person the algorithm chose a tip, but I still prefer cash if I have some around. Also you don't have to pay taxes on tips, but if it's some system where the employee officially hands you your tips (like with any cashless system) you do have to pay social security insurance on that. I don't mind paying that, as it is an insurance and will increase sick pay, pension, etc., but I know many people prefer not do, because they might need any penny now. What I do like about tipping the way it's done in Vienna is that people who cannot afford much can still afford to go out for dinner from time to time, because restaurant prices are not as high as for example in scandinavia, and just tip the minimum, wils those who don't have to check every Euro can be more generous to the staff in their favourite restaurants
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria День назад
Great input! Agree on both points...
@amitdhakre8058
@amitdhakre8058 Месяц назад
I have been told by the locals tipping 5 to t0% is part of the culture. Normally, they are rounding off to 10% if the service is satisfactory. 5% of if something was off to sbow that something was off and no tip if it was bad. Coperto is cover charge and not the tip and is independent of the bill amount. Generally nowadays its 2 euros per person. You pay even if you just have a coffee of 3 euros. Tipping for takeaways is the worst.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
In Austria, we sometimes have an even crazier practice. We pay something similar to "coperto," which we call "Gedeck," and then we tip on top of that. This used to be standard at restaurants with table covers, as they had to clean them after every visitor. However, I've seen restaurants without those amenities that still charge Gedeck per person, and they expect a tip on top of that.
@VonGuller
@VonGuller Месяц назад
Thank you for the good information. If there is a card payment option available, can you also tip with card or do you have to tip with cash?
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
If they accept card, you can also tip by card.
@silvesterbecker1015
@silvesterbecker1015 День назад
If I need to stand while ordering and consume my order somewhere else, there is now service involved thus I am not tipping.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria 16 часов назад
100% agree
@Nurseangel1004
@Nurseangel1004 3 дня назад
So im Vienna we can tip but we dont have to. We Pay our Waiters much more the Other Countrys. If i didnt Like the Service i dont tip. And i Never saw somewhere that i have to tip at a Self Service Station or Like a bakery. Only if i enjoy breakfast there and a waiter brings me my Food and Drinks.
@ViennaRobert
@ViennaRobert 10 дней назад
As someone who has been in the austrian hospitality industry for 3 decades on all levels of the industry from high end to big events and has literarally thousands of restaurant, bar and club visits under his belt, both internationally as well as locally.... While I´ll definitely agree that you shouldn´t reward crappy service and that the electronic extortion of tips is annoying...The Viennese tipping system in general is the best there is from both worlds. Hospitality is NOT the same as other jobs. There is no other Industry with this quantity and diversity of human interaction and work intensity. You get more assholes and Karens /and or Drunks/ and or entitled Idiots per hour than anywhere else. Plus you often have to solve issues and do hours and fill shifts in a manner that !almost! no other industry has. There's a huge "the show must go on" mentality. If a large group comes in or cook falls ill... you can get your haircut or paintjob an other day. Gastro is: solve it now, optimize later. Tips are what keeps the good people in the industry. The appreciation you get from tips often saves you emotionally that day, and treating yourself to something nice from the tips is what lets you put up with a whole lot of crap. If you kill the tipping system you´ll end up having exactly the waiters you complain about not wanting to have. In Corona thousands of great people in gastro got sucked up into other industries being offered far above average salaries, as good gastro staff excells at people skills, is extremely resilient and will work any kinds of hours day and night and thinks anybody complaining about a 38h week is a wussy little loser. And one of the biggest reasons good people in the industry put up with all that and put in the extra effort is the financial AND emotional appreciation through tips. That the American System is completely broken is another topic all together.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria 10 дней назад
Agree on all points! No disrespect to the waiters! It’s a hard job and I’m always willing to tip somebody who is doing their absolute best! For me it’s just unclear where we draw the limits. Great service deserves great tips! Rude service deserves …?
@ViennaRobert
@ViennaRobert 10 дней назад
@@KhyatiPuria rude or careless or lazy waiters.... feel free to give them nothing. they shouldn´t get anything.
@rastislavsmolek8140
@rastislavsmolek8140 4 дня назад
If the waiter is non competent, pay by cash and no tip. Otherwise, give a tip.
@3HR3NGR4B
@3HR3NGR4B Месяц назад
*"Tipping" das alte Trinkgeld^^* 😁👍
@shamicentertainment1262
@shamicentertainment1262 Месяц назад
I have a slightly different quesiton. Does paying so often in cash in austria make a positive difference to the income of shops? Does the government put much effort into people who don't declare all their cash income?
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
It depends 😅 every transaction must be declared - cash or card. But of course cash is easier to “hide” than a card transaction. However let’s not forget about Card transaction fees
@Anderas73
@Anderas73 Месяц назад
there is a law they need to give you a receipt, even if you throw it away. It needs to be printed in a traceable form and the IRS needs to get a digital copy of your receipts. So even in small shops it's almost impossible to hide money, even if most is paid cash.
@arnoweldert6797
@arnoweldert6797 7 дней назад
I live in Vienna since 25 Years, and never have Seen that, The unwritten rule is about 5 to 10 %, like the video says, but Nobody really counts how much they leave. Sometimes I Tip to much, some times under that. And if the service is bad, I don't Tip. I also don't Tip at self service. Only if I am sitting on the Restaurant Bar or cafe.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria 6 дней назад
That's how it's supposed to be! I've been noticing those tipping terminals more frequently, especially at takeaway coffee spots. It's always such an awkward moment when they wait for you to tap on the screen to choose your tip amount.
@RazielKainus
@RazielKainus Месяц назад
thats why I mostly avoid classic restaurants - it is already quite expensive (and I earn SLOVAK wage, but I still want to eat some nice food from time to time), and lets say the bill is like 12 euros, how many percent do they expect? I have to work a lot of hrs for THAT money, a lot more hrs than they do (because Slovak wages suck ...)... like ok, I tipped a couple times when I had eaten at that Indian restaurant, cos the food was great and it was just a nice place and neat service, so I fished out a couple coins... but automatic tipping like in US? HELL NO :D I mean, I dont .... money :D ... so in the meantime, I will utilize fast food, street food, and of course make use of pretty solid value food at grocery stores - like at SPAR, where I often get 1/2 grilled chicken + 2 semmel and sth to drink, together like 6 or 7 euros? and I get my fill :) ... good service is fine, sure, but I dont really feel like shelling out tons of money just cos someone smiles at me lol
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
Love that 😂 but yeah totally legit!
@markuskoarmani1364
@markuskoarmani1364 2 дня назад
They charged me 20% in buffet in NW hotel vienna Airport Hotel. OMG a buffet where service of waiter is 0 percent WTF
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria День назад
That's strange...was it maybe called "Gedeck"? I can't remember when I have dined in a hotel in Vienna, but I can imagine that they charge "Gedeck", which is around 3-4 euros per person.
@mrchillgreen
@mrchillgreen 6 дней назад
@Khyati & Puria having a rude waiter is definetly not normal in austria not sure where you have that from but if you speak only about vienna meh "vienna may be different" but i highly doubt it tho.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria 6 дней назад
Not gonna name the restaurants but after living here for over 30years we came across a lot of of strange service experiences. When I compare it to other cities the ratio of unfriendly:friendly restaurant is definitely off in Vienna.
@vinyalonde
@vinyalonde Месяц назад
As you alluded to, tipping is out of control here in North America. I visit New York and I would be taking my life in my hands if I did not tip at least 20 percent. One interesting aspect of this is who actually gets the tip. I make a point of paying the tip in cash to the server. On a number of occasions, I would get hostile looks from the restaurant managers on my way out because presumably, they had seen the zero tip on the bill (that I paid by card) and then the question is, did the server tell the manager that I had paid them the tip in cash? If not, this suggests to me that the manager is probably skimming the tips and the server does not see all of it, or in some cases any of it. I don't think the wait staff are necessarily the villains in all cases. Indeed most of them are just trying to survive. I am visiting Vienna in late November of this year, my first trip, and I am curious to see what the waiters are like. One thing I have found when it comes to wait staff is that usually, the staff in the hotel restaurants are very good. This has been my experience in the past.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
Servers definitely aren't to blame for tipping. I know restaurants have a tough time making money, but the way tipping works now just feels broken and out of date. Maybe there's a better way to do things that's fair for everyone. I actually really like the concept in Scandinavia. Just include it into the price and make sure you can pay the wages of your staff without having to depend on tips
@reneeanderson-xc9eg
@reneeanderson-xc9eg Месяц назад
Am 8.Juli werde ich in Wien sein nach 50 Jahren in San Francisco jetzt weiss ich nicht wieviel Trinkgeld zu geben dachte immer in Österreich ist es inbegriffen ❤❤😂😂
@3HR3NGR4B
@3HR3NGR4B Месяц назад
Nein das Trinkgeld gibt man immer nach Gutdünken selbst wobei es z.B. davon abhängt wie man bedient wurde bzw. wie sehr man die Leistung zu schätzen weiß aber manche geben NIE ein Trinkgeld...
@Underthebridgemetoo
@Underthebridgemetoo Месяц назад
I tip on the experience that I had while dining in the restaurant. When I am greeted with a smile and and talked to like a human being and treated with respect and my meal was good, than by all means you will get a tip. If I am treated like just another person expecting to tip me for whatever service I get, sorry but you don't deserve it. When i visited New Zealand, there was no expectation of a tip, in fact, I was looked at wierdly because I wanted to tip them. TIPS = Too Insure Proper Service. Quite frankly, if you want a tip in a country that it is expected, than you need to perform better.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
Makes total sense to me...New Zealand sounds like the Scandinavian concept.
@StephanieYan
@StephanieYan Месяц назад
What. The U.S. can have non existing service or terrible service and still expect a 20% tip. Nowadays the default is like 25% tip. It’s out of control
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
How is the reaction if you tip below 20% - just because you didn't like the experience.
@StephanieYan
@StephanieYan Месяц назад
@@KhyatiPurialot of side eyeing. 😅 well people don’t care if they gave you bad service. They just expect the tip. I’ve had people chase after me after a meal because the tip wasn’t high enough. With food prices also going up, a 20% tip can be incredibly high… sometimes 40-60 dollars 😢
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
@@StephanieYan Wow that’s crazy! Last time we visited US was in 2018 and we honestly only experienced good service! And it did feel right to tip 20%. But yeah we saw it as tourists.
@solsticeprojekt1937
@solsticeprojekt1937 3 дня назад
Actually, it's 20% here in Vienna. Also I think he's absolutely blowing this out of proportions. Nobody is forced to pay anything. I have no idea why USAmericans are having such trouble simply not giving away their money. It's like they're all suffering from general insecurity.
@Marthysgarden
@Marthysgarden Месяц назад
If you want my money charge me for it, leave it up to me I’m paying the amount charged and nothing more
@bliblablubb0712
@bliblablubb0712 14 часов назад
They are not my employees, why I shall pay their salary? Japanese are right about this topic.
@JO-nh6mo
@JO-nh6mo Месяц назад
If you order food by delivery in Austria, you have lost control over your life (and probably finances). Why not cook yourself and tip yourself??
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
You never felt like ordering a pizza after a stressful working day? We do cook a lot, but sometimes we really don’t feel like cooking and doing dishes!
@GutnarmEVE
@GutnarmEVE 2 дня назад
good sir, please stow away your apples vs. pears spreadsheets, as they really don't concern the lives of probably ~95% of viennese waiters/waitresses: like, who's seriously "voll angemeldet" at some bigger place, and how many of them do overtime "on the side", voluntarily or not. basically: you work? you work. anmeldung, 5h/woche okay? no? next, please. ...doesn't mean there aren't smug pricks about (usually either very young, or too old to care), not doing their jobs, trying to milk you for money. ("restaurantfachmann", professional waiter, actually is a tight 3y apprenticeship over here.) basically, though? as I've been taught by my grandpa: tip is tip, 10% is 10%, less if it's been a sh1tshow, more, if it's been quite pleasant.
@enriquesanchez2001
@enriquesanchez2001 Месяц назад
WOW! Thank you for the warning, Khyati & Puria! At home in the US, I RARELY go out to eat! But be sure that tipping is getting out of control here, too. 15% is no longer acceptable! In March, I was in Paris, but even though I know it has been the custom to assume that "service" is included, I heard some strange times when even French servers were almost demanding a tip from customers.
@KhyatiPuria
@KhyatiPuria Месяц назад
It’s a nice tax free income. A dream come true for every business. So many might try their luck even if it’s not part of the culture.
@jeffgorham8819
@jeffgorham8819 Месяц назад
Part of the problem in Europe if they think you are American, they expect you to tip like you are in the States (20%) and not like the locals do.
@greenleaf8226
@greenleaf8226 Месяц назад
sounds like the typical rude paris waiters
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