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I viewer just got his ticket and tried to make contacts on a new radio and had issues doing so. This video will cover the differences between repeater work and simplex and what you need to be successful in making a contact. Having the right gear and conditions will greatly improve your success in working VHF.
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@bobve7ezi370
@bobve7ezi370 11 месяцев назад
CQ on simplex is perfectly fine. CQ literally means "calling any station." That's not the same as keying up the local repeater where it's assumed that there are a number of stations already listening, and therefore just stating one's callsign is sufficient. Things will proceed from there, of introductions, welcome to the activity, a short QSO or just a signal report. I always welcome newly qualified ops, as does every other ham I've ever heard. If this fellow's radio has not been setup properly, offset, tone -- all that stuff, then it can be frustrating. Best bet is to find an "Elmer" who can show & tell, all that stuff. Which you have just done. 73, VE7EZI.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 11 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
@SwiftShamisJustus
@SwiftShamisJustus 2 года назад
I really had a similar problem. I finally got my callsign and had a 50w rig with a decent antenna. All 5 out of 10 repeaters near me were usually active pretty good throughout the day. But every night after work when I got on looking for a radio check it’s like nobody could hear me! So I had some family members help me test it out with the use of my other H/T that I had, to make sure I was actually hearing the repeater on the downlink frequency. Turns out there was just nobody catching my transmissions later in the night around 8-9pm. Point being, just don’t give up and keep trying and double check your connections and your settings and somebody will get through to you. But i highly recommend upgrading from an H/T if you live 10+ miles from a repeater. KK7HRO
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
You nailed it! Never give up. Keep pushing through and eventually you will get someone. Same goes for HF and POTA, you have to keep calling CQ to get the pileup and when it happens, you have a ton of fun! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
@richardmendoza738
@richardmendoza738 7 месяцев назад
I feel that, I work nights so when I'm finally ready to sit down on the radio, everyone's asleep haha
@Subdood04
@Subdood04 2 года назад
Looking forward to this. I just made my first contact today via repeater on a local net.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
Hope you enjoy it!
@JohnMerryman
@JohnMerryman Год назад
Nice explanation that really helps clear things up for me. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT Год назад
Glad to help anytime! Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@miriamsmith7135
@miriamsmith7135 2 года назад
Great video. Lots of useful information, you gave. I have a 4 element Yagi on top of my roof and talked to a fella about 250 -300 miles south of me. He was in North Carolina, and I live 2 miles south of the Delaware state line.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
Yagi's are really good antennas to begin with and when propagation conditions are favorable you can really reach out. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@miriamsmith7135
@miriamsmith7135 2 года назад
@@HR4NT I forgot to say that I was on a Yaesu 2900 using high power 75w. it was pointed to the south. I have always had better luck going south than any other position.
@dougofford6567
@dougofford6567 3 месяца назад
I'm in a northern Canadian city of 78,000 population within range of 3 repeaters. Noone is ever on air except for one net per night on the biggest one and 1 net per week on the smallest one. Otherwise dead air.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 3 месяца назад
That is a real bummer. Maybe see if there is a club in the area and ask why no one uses the repeaters. You could suggest a daily net where a topic of discussion is brought up for all operators to participate in and give their opinion on the subject of the day. We have been doing that here for many years now and it has brought in all kinds of hams form around our area. Just an idea. Hope you can get a resolution soon. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@tomjmartin168
@tomjmartin168 2 года назад
I am a new techie and when setting up for my first repearter i did it while in vfo and ended up setting an offset for the entire band so simplex i would transmit 5k up or down from the recieve lol. now i put all freqs in memory and set each one up seperately... and then test out the vfo side to ensure i didn't mess it up for simplex. Saving to an Sd card really helped.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
That is fantastic! Sounds like you got it figured out! Thanks for watching and for sharing! 73!!!!!
@rayki7glu710
@rayki7glu710 2 года назад
This may sound obvious, but as a new ham he (or she) may "assume" that the radio is already set for 5 watts. Maybe it wasn't. That's the first thing I would of said. As for the rest of it, what you said in full is spot on! Keep up the good work!
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
Good point! Checking the power output on any radio is a must!! Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@lindsayhicks8152
@lindsayhicks8152 2 года назад
Another good show brother
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
Much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@kyoshivp
@kyoshivp 2 года назад
Good stuff, as always... The one thing I might add would be to check out the Repaterbook app for iOS or Android. If the person has GPS turned on, it'll give him/her a ballpark idea of how far away that repeater might be. Not exact, obviously, but it'll give them an idea.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
I agree. I forgot to mention that in my video, however, that and many other apps and materials are available on my website. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@chuckmartin6049
@chuckmartin6049 Год назад
Great video for us newbies. 👍 Thank you
@HR4NT
@HR4NT Год назад
You're very welcome! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
@donaldsmith3048
@donaldsmith3048 Год назад
I would think that club members could help a lot! Finding a good club is very good.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT Год назад
Agreed. If you can find a club with helpful members, that is an asset. Thanks for the comment an for watching. 73!!
@airheadzadventures
@airheadzadventures Год назад
Well done man!
@HR4NT
@HR4NT Год назад
Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
@gherezette
@gherezette Год назад
Great video and explanations on how to work with a repeater or simplex. Will take a look at your other videos! 73, PD4GR
@HR4NT
@HR4NT Год назад
Glad it was helpful! Welcome to the channel and I hope you find the info you need! Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@donniedotson3318
@donniedotson3318 7 месяцев назад
It would probably be best to refer to tones as CTCSS tones instead of pl tones because CTCSS is most commonly used in manuals and on radios.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 7 месяцев назад
It can go either way. Honestly it is just semantics and I have found that there is massive inconsistency in radio manuals. I wish they were more universal in their language in order to not confuse users both old and new. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@donniedotson3318
@donniedotson3318 7 месяцев назад
@@HR4NT Thanks for making the video.
@TheDesertRat31
@TheDesertRat31 3 месяца назад
Doesn't "CQ" mean "looking for a contact?" Why is that frowned upon?
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 3 месяца назад
Yes, CQ does indicate you want to a make contact with another ham. Some operators get a bug in their rear if you call CQ on a repeater. However on simplex I do it especially on 146.520 if I am trying to reach out and make a contact with someone. On a repeater there are always people listening and monitoring so you can just call out your call sign and someone will respond in most cases. Don't overthink it. The main point is to have fun and always be learning. If you have a repeater, listen to how others communicate and follow whatever local custom they utilize when talking to one another. Hope this helps. Thanks for the comment an for watching. 73!
@andreaslack8379
@andreaslack8379 Год назад
One thing I didn't hear was the deviation setting, the FT79 does default to wide (5kHz) but some I have gotten default to 2.5kHz. Most of the US repeaters in regions I been in use 5kHz. If set to 2.5kHz one can still copy but their audio will always seem low and can be hard for some to copy.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT Год назад
I appreciate that info! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
@hooterfivesix
@hooterfivesix 2 года назад
"Should' is a good word. Did it work? No. I put in my ZIP, but it says I have to put in the coordinates. It doesn't tell me what the format for the coordinates is. Finally, after several attempts, it comes back that there are NO repeaters within 25, or 50, miles. I know for a fact that there ARE a few repeaters within 20 miles. Glitch? Why does everything seem to be so difficult? There's rarely a straightforward answer or procedure.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
I am sorry that you are having an issue with that. The program might not be perfect and may have omitted some repeaters if they weren't added to the system. I have found another link for a different repeater finder: www.levinecentral.com/repeaters/google_mapping.php Try this link out...it only asks for your state and displays a google map showing all repeaters in that state. You can click on the locator near you and it will display the info to program your radio. I hope this helps you out. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!!
@ricdonato4328
@ricdonato4328 2 месяца назад
@@HR4NT Wow, wonderful resource, thank you.
@Mark-gz8ft
@Mark-gz8ft 2 года назад
Just got my tech license. No contacts yet. Newbie question.....If CQ is not necessarily recommended for simplex, and not typical when using a repeater then when is it used.?
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
You can call CQ on simplex...repeaters, just use your call sign. Most of the time calling CQ is used on HF like during contests, POTA, SOTA, and just looking for a QSO (contact) with another ham. I hope this helps you out! Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@charleswilliams8368
@charleswilliams8368 2 года назад
Around here they say, " listening." Then they wait. If they're in their car they'll says, " mobile."
@grampsradio
@grampsradio 8 месяцев назад
4:31 - If you use Chirp to program your radio, will it add in the pl tones and offsets automatically?
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 8 месяцев назад
It will not. You must input those manually. If you have repeaterbook up on another browser, it will have the info you need to get that info to program in CHIRP. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@AlvinMcManus
@AlvinMcManus Год назад
When you say getting your antenna up about 20ft where are your measurement points? The ground is one, but what about the antenna end. I have an Ed Fong J pole on 5ft mast on top of a roof ridge at about 13ft. So, my radio at 18ft or is measured from the center of the J pole which would be another 2.5 ft? I'm newly licensed so I am still working the kinks out up basic understanding. Looking forward to a reply, from anyone, just be nice okay? 73
@HR4NT
@HR4NT Год назад
I used two chain link fence top rails from Home Depot that were 10 Ft each. I clamped the GP-9 to that pole with about a foot from each piece securing the antenna to the pole. The GP-9 is 17 ft tall, so my total height is around 25 ft. I hope this helps. For the Ed Fong, I think you can mount that up with a piece of PVC an attach it up high on your roof. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@stanley917
@stanley917 Год назад
2 Meter Offset is .6 Mhz or 600 Khz, not 6 Mhz. 6 Mhz puts you out of band.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT Год назад
Correct. Thank you. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!!
@AlvinMcManus
@AlvinMcManus Год назад
@@HR4NT oops
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 7 месяцев назад
2 meter repeater users seem to be rather hostile, where I reside.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 7 месяцев назад
Different areas will have different types of operators. Maybe try simplex or if you are just a Technician class operator, you can use 10 meters HF and have a ton more fun than just staying on VHF. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@InfiniteBrain
@InfiniteBrain 2 года назад
On 2m simplex I've read that the calling frequency should be held for emergency communications. What's the correct answer here as there seem to be some varying ideas about its use and my area doesn't have much activity except around net times.
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
If you are licensed, you are allowed to utilize the bands within your license parameters. The international frequency of 146.520 is commonly used for hams to call out and make contacts. I do not think the other simplex frequencies are supposed to me reserved only for an emergency. However, the same rules apply, if you hear someone using that frequency, find one that is clear before transmitting. On any frequency or band it is a good idea to give your call sign and simply ask if the frequency is in use. If after a bit you hear nothing...the frequency is yours for the time being. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@3henry214
@3henry214 2 года назад
I'm a new FT-65R owner (and licensee) and I had the same issue. I found that I did not have the SQL Tone Type setting correct, so even though I could receive the repeater(s) output , the repeaters that I was trying to hit, were all "deaf as a post" to my transmit, due to the incorrect setting. Check menu option #29 SQL Type and make sure it is set to T-tone for the repeater frequency entry. In the Yaesu programming software, its "SQL Type', in CHIRP it's called "Tone Mode". The Yaesu settings are confusing because there are two Squelch settings in the FT-65R menu, #26 RF SQL and #29 SQL Type. The SQL Type is basically your key into the repeater. The Yaesu programming software sucks, the FT-65R is now supported by CHIRP and I highly recommend using it over the Yaesu software. The CHIRP software pops up a warning about it being experiment for the FT-65R, but that's an old message back from when they were still working on adding the FT-65R to CHIRP... they need to get rid of that message, as the CHIRP website lists the FT-65R as a supported model, and it works fine. The Yaesu manual that comes with the radio also sucks, if you haven't done so already, down load the advanced FT-65R manual from Yaesu: www.yaesu.com/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=13235&FileCatID=151&FileName=FT%2D65R%5FE%5FAdvance%5FManual%5FENG%5F1710%2DC.pdf&FileContentType=application%2Fpdf +1 on the adapter to BNC. It gives you more flexibility to switch antennas... be it to try a different one on the radio or to connect to an outside/portable antenna. I plan to put up a J-Pole, so the BNC will make it easier for me to switch between the HT mounted antenna and the outside antenna. And here are some great SMA female to BNC female adapters, the fit on the radio looks like they came that way from the factory: www.amazon.com/dp/B00CVQK466?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details 73's KN6VMK
@HR4NT
@HR4NT 2 года назад
I agree. Reading these manuals sometimes is absolutely worthless. I really wish there was a single standard across the board on naming the various features in all radios rather then the manufacturer just choosing some random thing to call the various settings. As for CHIRP, like I said in the video do your research and make sure it is safe to use with a particular brans and radio BEFORE using it. I am glad you found a good SMA to BNC adapter. I keep a few on hand just in case, but I love the ability to quickly change out antennas without wearing out the threads on the SMA connection on moist HTR radios. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!!!
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