Viktor Orban's 'illiberal democracy' - BBC Newsnight 

I can't believe anything the BBC say anymore . .

propaganda

Meanwhile in Budapest, my sister can go out for a walk on the streets or to have a cheeky spritzer on the many patios of the city after dark without getting gangraped or stabbed. Not sure if she could do it in Paris or Berlin...

Full of misleading information and he cannot even pronounce Budapest properly. Thank you, good night.

Why is bbc worry about the democracy in hungary? The elections were all democratic and the people made a choice. Hungarians know what is good for them and what is not. Worry about yourself instead. And stop judging millions of peoples straightforward choice..

The BBC has sunk to a new low. Unbelievable.

Thank you BBC for the information. The only problem is that you (and many others, especially those sitting in the EU Parliament) were not asked, since none of you is on the list of Hungarian voters ;) Thank God! We are smart people enough to be able to decide whether we want this "multiculti" or not, and three weeks ago we were asked to express our opinion on the issue. Democracy just works great here! We are proud of Mr Orban. Oh, and "we" means 2/3 of the Hungarian voters. Have a nice day!

The longer I watch the worse it gets.

The problem is that western democracies has started to give up their own national identity. This is the thing which Hungary and the V4 doesn't really want. This is why we and Fidesz has been criticized. This is that simple. And of course our national economic indicators are getting better and better, year by year. It is a long process to reach what we want and it's been only 8 years elapsed with the Fidesz government.

Orban gives us hope that all is not lost in Europe!

Sad but true.... Hungarian racism is one of the highest in eastern Europe. Based on that they Voted for a government that is racist and they believed that this would work in this times. They wished to have all freedoms of Europe and keep their boarders closed. Well i dont feel any sorry for them and thy should live with what they choose......

Great news from Hungary. Every European country that wants to remain a European country needs an Orban !

Okay so Hungary lost she's land 2/3 in the peace after the ww1 called Trianon because of the palace. Before this Hungary was part of the Austrian empire but few years after the Hungarian revolution and independence war in 1848-49 the Austrian empire changed to the Austro-Hungarian empire what was a doulist country. Before this Hungary was split in three parts on what was under the control of turks, one what was under the control of Austria and there was Transylvania what was ruled by itself. Because of this and because of what happened with us after the ww2 we are proud to our culture and history and this is why Hungary wants she's parts back. And Orbán calls Hungarian democracy Christian Democracy!

What an absurdly snooty view of Hungary! Hungary stands up to the Brussels Commissariat and the BBC issues its ideological condemnation.

The BBC ''were integity goes to die''

American and British bombs created the Middle East migration crisis. Why blame the EU for trying to do its humanitarian duty, trying to clean the mess created by America and Britain? Whatever your opinion of Europe opening its borders to Middle East migrants, the blame lies squarely at the feet of the Anglo-American military-industrial complex.

Why did you purposely make Victor Orban look like some kind of Sinister Bond Villain in the thumbnail?

They forgot to mention that Fidesz won almost 40% support in Budapest. That far surpassed any other party in the city. And even in most of the districts where they lost they were still the second largest party. Another myth in this video is about the young voting for the opposition. Which opposition? There is like 5 opposition parties, which is similar to the UK. And Fidesz won by far the most votes of the young. The left wing parties have almost no support among the young. LMP and DK for example often brag about being the second-third youngest parties, but that is easy when your total voter base is like 1-2% of the entire vote and the rest of the leftist parties are mostly supported by the most elderly who vote for MSZP not because they really have any interest in the party, but because they voted for them since Communist transition times and will always vote that way. The rest voted for Jobbik.

Hungary opened its borders to the West, but not to Africa, nor to the Middle-East. Hungary entered EU under the Maastrich requirements (free movement of EU citiezens) that never included the concept of "open-border" of Soros as a core value !!! What has happened to the E.U.? What is happening in Hungary ? it is obvious : EU action - HU reaction. Hungary is not a multicultural nation. It has no colonization and neo-colonization related political action. ex no HU multinational is exploiting labor force or land elsewhere in the world. Hungary has no historical debt ! Every country, population should have the right to decide their destiny, the right to self-determination and protect their culture from outrageous globalization, multiculturalism. Since when (where is it put down that) it is the market who has the power to decide on the cultural cohesion of a free democratic country ???

This guy should be a head of EU not drunks and without knowledge of freedom, we Hungary and Poland were under communism for 50 years and we had no chance to prosper like West under USA and now when we free we not be under EU

you know what hungary doesnt have? grooming gangs

Strange that east Europeans here say it is very safe in their countries,but here in belgium almost 90% of house jackings and other crimes are committed by east Europeans

Hungary rules.

Today Hungary is not like Ukraine thanks to Viktor Orban.

I wonder who the bad guy is here? Orban in Hungary....Brexit in the UK....Trump in the US.....there is a trend for some to question and even oppose openly any decision of the people which does not buy into the establishment/global position. This constant non-acceptance of an outcome which does not suit (re: repeat referenda in countries until the "right" answer is gained)....is the real enemy of democracy. We know democracy is not perfect, as one Greek philosopher said....but it is what we have until something better comes along. It is symptomatic of the EU, which has evolved into a giant political entity, from what once was a free-trade bloc. European Army....European ambassadors......etc. Nothing more than the Warsaw pact by another name!! And they moan about lack of freedom and democracy!

The kind of democracy which is run top-down by elites who disdain the people, control popular culture and impose the ideology of “anti-racism” is killing the White nation states, all of which will be extinguished in a couple of generations.

So sad, No Mcdonadls or pride parades !1!!1

Basically they not letting Europe to boss them around.

I live in Australia and want to return to my motherland when retire. As Serbia is full of migrants, I will probably move to Hungary or Poland and try to relocate my family

CEU is not a free institution!

BBC shame on you

After reading these comments, I'm sorry but I have to ask, did everyone watch the same video? If you read around a little bit (from both independent and government controlled sources) you'll realise that this video pretty much nails the situation.

Please don't make the mistake of putting an equal sign between liberal and free.

I can't even finish watching this garbage

So the bbc sides with soros !...

why is the audio in mono and not in stereo?

The fact that even after their history they still chose to raise that fence, thereby raising many bad memories of the past, shows how bad the situation really is.

Beware, a lot of assholes, some would call them Nazis, to me just assholes here. No one argued in the comments about how the Hungarian government is turning more and more totalitarian. Everybody accepts that "to halt these rapers, honor killers, immigrants" there has to be a tough hand. Some even describe Sweden as failed, while people still dont see that more Poles and Fins are flocking to Sweden than the "rape"-ones. And as if Hungary was ever in the danger of being overrun, which is ridiculous, to every man and woman that grasps the situation. Battling these overblown illusionary threats is simply the safest way of presenting power to the people, which in turn convinces people to vote for Orban. I for one would appreciate if the EU would finally throw this disgrace of a country out. Currently even countries in the Southern Slavic states sport more intelligence than Hungary.

Lol propaganda already falls flat in the opening montage when you look at how nice Hungary is compared to all the "liberal democracies" that have been in rapid decline. Compare Paris, London, & US cities 70 years ago to how they look now.

BBC has more dislike on it's own official channel. LOL Time to change yourself into a cartoon channel :-)

Orban 2022 MAKE HUNGARY GREAT AGAIN

Wow! Pan all the music to the right side and then pan all the commentary to the left. Great job whoever makes this. You made it impossible to listen to it with headphones.

Long live Hungary and its historical wisdom.

Fake news

Hungary are right to do this

God Bless Hungary Smash globalism

I wish Canada was more like Hungary.

Sound edit on the video. I can't hear a word only the music. Oh well it was all BBC propaganda anyway.

What an oxymoron, iliberal democracy.

STOP Orbán!

The EU wants to push homosexuality and open borders. Glory to Hungary 🇭🇺 ❤for standing up for natural rights

LOVE HUNGARY

Now thanks to orban and Hungary, this part of europe is free and safe. I hope Orban won't lose with western governments.

Stadionok korhàzak helyet

Khm, what is wrong with no having liberal democracy?

Soros BBC!

Yes. This video is correct - as far as it goes. Orban holds the country in an iron grip, one organized with the greatest delicacy, but a grip that seeks control of every aspect of life by the Orban government, as well as ensuring a rich pay-off of tax money and EU funds to his chosen projects and chosen oligarchs. Did you notice how Gulyas was unable to provide a single instance of NGOs furthering “illegal migration? Hungary belongs in the EU. The Orban government does not.

Axe the Tax.

i would like my country sweden to like hungary towards imigartion, cuz now days in sweden our women cant go out when it is dark and it dangerous to be in some citys

Well done Hungary!

did u just call Soros a philanthropist?? :D

12:35 Said by somebody who lives Europe "Europe may not survive." That "somebody" is Barbara Lerner Spectre.

Just because Britain has leaders willing to give up their national identity doesnt mean that the Christian nations should give up theirs

WOW! This was so blatantly biased! Shame a BBS. Real journalism is "outdated" I guess:(

Truely the audio engineering quality of a major news network 👏

Viktor is a great guy

I wouldn't call this a balanced report. The very first sentences delivered by the narrator are positioning Hungary and the actions of its current government as a deviation from the path the west intended it to take. I don't feel like continuing. I'm sick and tired of these types of reports. Also I find the concept of the illiberal democracy appealing. Liberalism has made this continent rotten and it is nice to see that a country admits that something is wrong.

Living under Islam for 167 years was enough for Hungarians to figure out what Islam is all about. That's the major difference between West European vs. East European historical experience. I'm a Hungarian and I can honestly say that Hungarians will not give a 2nd chance to Islam. We are not naive! We also have first-hand historical experience living under Communism and Nazism. Therefore no second chance for them either. We are happy to be Christian Hungarians and want to live in a society that is free of not only Islam but Commie ideologies such as progressivism, anti-white and anti-Christianism and feminism etc. East Europeans are very clear about this.

I´ve been recently in Budapest and the only thing i can say is that the illiberal democracy works quite well.

Long live to the illiberal demokracy If we are not communists

Hail Viktor Orban the new crusader knight

Hungary turning away from EU?! that's sounds weird from brexit Britain BBC

Orban Viktor may have some flaws, but nobody is perfect. In my opinion Orban Viktor is the best leader of state in Europe, and i think that more of the heads of state in Europe should be a little more like him in order to preserve nationality.

Well BBC, all I know is that Hungary isn't a migrant war-zone like Britain is, so what was your point again?

"Europe may not survive" I've heard that before

is this bbc joke?

I'm sick to death of the BBC!

12:21 He says "core European values" as if they are somehow separate from the values of the citizenry.

Budapest is one of the most beautiful cities in Europe. You cannot say that about London anymore.

1:14 "If Hungary have had this system... would it qualify?" As Hungarian here is my answer: If the than EU would have been anything like it is now, we would have never applied to join it... And just 1 more thing for the westeners/liberals/EU commissioners: we are the ones that lived under oppressing powers for long time so we became masters of recognizing such powers. YOU are definitely one of them.

Just seen the comments section. Looks like even British people not buying this crap. lol

For the love of the hungarian people. allow me to ask some provoking questions: 1. Why doesn’t Hungary pull out of EU? Could it be because of EU funds can be quite handy? Show us that you got balls and integrity, and stick to the deal! Either you stay, or you back out of the deal! Member states can opt out. The door is open. Why the hell hesitate? 2. If Hungary seems to be the last hope of a "true” European country, why doesn’t other Europeans move there ? With most respect, it doesn’t match well with the evident ever increasing brain drain of Hungary? Those with education leave Hungary in large numbers, and the people who are not valuing their democratic rights stay. It seems like they don’t care if the politicians do represents the people’s will or not. Could it be that older generations aren’t used to democracy? Its a cliché, but that’s just how Orban wants it to be it seems. 3. Does Orban have selective Alzheimer’s? Maybe we should have shut our European borders in 1956 and rejected aiding the fleeing Hungarians? 4. If Orban is so perfect, why are many of his own people protesting him? 5. Is he himself aware of the fact that he is copying the values and tactics of his very enemies that through wars demolished and sieged his own country, just as Stalin and Hitler did? 6. If Hungarians should stick to their “history", they should worship some kind of authentic Tengrizmus, not some stupid "foreign" religion which came with a “outside" western Roman Empire? 7. Maybe many Hungarians are emigrating because they are fed up with a power sick kleptomaniac who is rewriting constitutional rules for his own good, and who also keeps up the tactics of distraction of blaming other factors and playing victim of a “dictatorship" (EU), when this is the very same dictatorship which he is building for his own gain in his home country? He seems to be in a hurry by shutting all doors for his own people to intervene, which clearly reveals his intentions, and clearly not on the grounds of which he was elected to. 8. Immigration aside, as a non-Hungarian, I do love the country, and it pisses me off to see this joke of a politician screwing his own people and keeping the poor getting poorer, and the rich getting richer. Employees are pushed into slave contracts, and many Hungarians are rightfully angry and protesting! It seems like the same old story; well-payed corrupt politicians saying that they care about the people, but they really don’t give a shit. Hungarians fought bravely against the Russian oppression of their freedom in 1956. You seemed to be a promising new democracy who wanted change. Now you are reverting back to totalitarianism through Orban again. Have all those Hungarians who fought for their democratic rights battled and died in vein?? Would it still be good to support an elected prime minister that built a stadium in his home town by grabbing trillion of Forints from the people’s Pension programme? Look at those guys at Fidesz: not good at either debating or being convincing. Aren’t Hungarians damn fed up with the same kurva oligarchs ruling again and again?!! There are so many others who should have been in parliament instead of those cheap corrupt marionettes! Why don’t you just overthrow that charlatan Orban ?! Do you still want a diverge into a one-party state? I think that the Hungarian citizens deserve better! Jó éjszakát!

Hungary good country,with cool peoples!!!

Potential factors of the failure of the EU: Hungary and Poland.

I forsee for the near future a big huge migration to Hungary... of white Europeans from other EU member states.

God Bless Hungary and Viktor Orban

Who the fuck mixed this sound?! Its all over the place! Left, right, left right, right left.

Shame on you BBC a once objective media. What have you become?! Personally as a Hungarian I feel offended by this propaganda video which cannot be further from the truth. This video contains simply lies about Hungary. Unbelievable....

Not a single positive comment in the comment section. Not surprised.

God bless Victor Orban . Hungary is paradise for family and children. God bless Hungary !

It's quite funny how 2/3 of the reactions are dislikes

Illiberal democracy is where not the liberals dictate what people have to think, but despite of the liberal majority in Hungarian media, people has their own choice for their own country, which is a non-suicidal choice. Fidesz politicians are standing on the back of the poeple who voted for them.. it is as simple as the real democracy..

I would have a far greater concern for the covert operations of the so called Open Society Foundation and the terrible implications for democracy that an insanely wealthy single citizen can have buying his own propaganda.

Hungary is a very nice country, and I've been there. Greetings from Malaysia.

I am English God bless Hungary you are great people that we should follow you stopped the ottomans from invading and your stopping them now it's amazing

Wow!! Only made it through 2 minutes of this and knew exactly where it was going. At least the BBC didn't waste my time pretending for 20 minutes that it would give a fair assessment of Hungary before it started the lying. They just jumped right into the lies and snark. If you're not a fan of agitprop, you can take a pass on this one.

As a Hungarian I have to say that Hungarian people have terrible accents when speaking English:)

Hah dislikes from modern feminists)))

I am a Hungarian and am proud of my prime minister . Thank you Mr Orban, and for those of you drag in the propaganda department don't believe this BBC gibberish

Viktor Orban is a GREAT LEADER something the BBC will NEVER UNDERSTAND.