Crazy and he had the best and elite defenders guarding him too. Artest, Battier, Allen, Tayshaun, Iman, Dauntae Jones, Iggy, Raja Bell, and etc. Kobe gave them HELL.
@@savonsanders8684 donte and Ron were hackers man. Bowen too. Dirtiest era. Raja used to zaza too didn't he. Shump overrated AF outside rookie year LMAO rip better. Cap Kirk too. Thabo deng AK-47 Noah
@@skap_attack 100%, there isn’t even a debate. Luca is going to be the next guy to make it to that level. Lebron is a step below MJ & Kobe. This shouldn’t be controversial at all
Tbf that Kobe was intense AF. He put the pride of the Lakers on the line to carry. Literally everyone was hurt LMFAO. It was like a comedy sketch. They all took turns switching hospital shifts
@@whips8dantoni changed the game. He created the GS curry thrived in and harden rockets. Wo his early influence these teams don't really happen modern NBA stats aren't inflated as much. He should have been able to be better w sets but his team was filled w patients not patience lol
I have been a Golden State Warrior fan since 1991, when Draymond was still wearing diapers. I became a Warrior fan when Mitch Richmond and Tim Hardaway gave me their autographs in downtown San Francisco at the cable car terminal across the street from the Nordstrom shopping center. There is no way any of the Golden State Warrior players can guard Kobe one on one. I have begrudgingly watched Kobe score at ease against my Warrior's player throughout his career. The crazy part is that I hate Kobe and, unfortunately as a Warrior fan, Draymond is delusional.
@@KingBreeze07 Yep the big man is so quick to check Charles for saying anything, but doesn't have the cojones to defend the passed away man who carried his phat always getting swept azz through 3 rings! SMH All talk and no guts...
This nauseating constant attack upon Kobe is coming from LeBron himself. LeBron is a giant bucket of excrement. Draymond is pushing for a Klutch Sports color position after he retires.
@@ForceFTV Reality? Oh sorry it's a pure coincidence that Lebron's Klutz Sportz bros are always trashing Kobe and sucking Lebron off in the media. And Lebron moving to LA and then shitting the bed year after year when Kobe won there year after year definitely doesn't sting the most narcissistic man on planet Earth, Lebron James. But please use more emojis in your response. Typing like a 12 year old girl is super tough.
Well he’s a better sports anylists than he is a player… witch is not really saying much 😂 I don’t even know why he’s even on television during the season when he’s a player? This era is so ridiculous, players do more of everything than playing basketball…
@@skap_attackthey all took turns cycling their slights and disses at Luka lol. It was so dumb and nonsensical. They're so inconsistent. They don't have basketball brains only comedy ones
@@mkhan8527 Kobe on an ACTUAL IQ TEST would smoke both of them. Just saying. MJ would be competitive. LeBalco has never read past page 1. All this talk about his IQ is his way of compensating for the fact he knows he's an uneducated imbecile lol.
@@mkhan8527mkkahn IQ: Repeat media made up bullshit, not understand the game LeBron has a usage rate virtually identical to Kobe’s, and averaged more shots per game for his career
@@danielpauley9113 Karma got his azz in 2011 for being an arrogant prk! Lol as a Celtics fan I celebrated like a mfr that year watching him getting embarrassed!
@@upfront2375 LeBalco’s jealous that he ain’t getting that retirement tour and although it was sad, Kobe’s death made the whole world pause and giant crowds were at his memorial while LA is indifferent to LeBalco. Another LeBalco propaganda, trying to tear down greats to make himself look good.
@@malikwilson7387 And stacked his team with other great players? When is the last time LeBum won a ring with the likes of Paul Gasol who wasn't even an all star calibre player before joining Kobe?
Nah! He changed his tone when Thompson that played for the Cavs saw him in a club and chin checked him! 😂 he only went after soft player but really went after even softer players after that… even his own teammate just bcuz he knew was soft.
Yep it’s written in there contract when they sign w Klutch was just mentioning this about Chris Broussard another Klutch media guy who always slights Kobe
@@rapgodreloaded9259 doesn't matter bc he's still getting the glaze. It's to hype up LBJ soft era. Dude got outplayed by kyrie then cries for KD when he won 73. In no other era would this type of soft bs be tolerated and you're allowed to keep climbing history
Same thing w spurs and warriors. Out of their prime they whipped GS and ppl try to glaze the GS dynasty lol. That's w favorable officiating btw. They were even getting whipped by kawhitos Leonard all by himself lol
Dude played in the dirtiest team ever w Green backing him up. He never used proper verticality and would passive aggressively hip check mid air or eye swipe. I hate that GS team.
@@DarkWolf-407 oh how ignorant you are. Steph never had pressure. The first time he did he became a baby and threw his mouth guard. When Lillard put up 50 on KD GS curry turned into a bully ghetto AF on the sidelines while he did nothing. I will Livestream you. Remember that
That’s why he is running his idiotic podcast. Because he can only achieve triple singles. I guess since he will be out of the league after next season he is getting ready.
@@dimitrijekulak3347u crazy lol bosh n wade deserve those mvps n prolly kyrie from 2016 n we kno ad was the dude in da bubble come on now. All his cudve been others jus like 1 or 2 of shaqs cudve been kobes mvps ain't end all be all gotta watch the games look for the hard work n effort.
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268the Lakers bench was capable enough to win in the best conference of the early 2000s. With today's rules, Kobe and Shaq have 40-50 each a game. The bench would just be cleaning up anyway.
@@chazzx1018 nah the bench would cost them. Today has a low more depth however so they can fill better. The bench for carried hard. They didn't do their job. Objectively man
@@skap_attackbring up how the old Spurs would whip them and how solo kawhi was taking em on. Imagine prime SA. You should do a power scaling episode bridging previous generations like this
Isn’t it weird that when Kobe wins with Shaq and is balling it’s attempted to be demonised. Yet, Lebron wins with multiple best players and it’s celebrated.
Can't believe Larry bird in his old age all those pain meds for his back has him delusional and saying LeBron is the best😂🤣🤣 he's not not even the best SF.
@@jasonnelson6624lebron being the best small forward isn’t even a question.him being the goat isn’t a question either 😂.Because 40k.11k.11k makes u the goat idc in year 21 still being top 10 in basketball at 40 makes u the best ever
@@skap_attack hey skap and is crazy to think that Kobe beat the most 50 win teams in a playoffs and no one mentions what he went through to win those titles.
@@user-kr3fm1bi8x exactly! And two of those titles came without a single other top 75 player on his own team. And he had only one other all star on his team. So underrated
That water in Flint is lit dog. What do you think about the "ladies" of the WNBA going Sri Lankan on Caitlan Clark. Klay Thompson and Steph Curry both couldn't guard Kyrie Irving in the NBA finals. There's no one on that team stopping Kobe but at least say Iguodala who could actually kind of play defense. What a ponce.
This is all completely spot on. Kyrie DID cook every perimeter defender on that team--multiple times. Yeaaaa, thinking I have to do some kind of a piece on Caitlin Clark and the WNBA as a whole. Stay tuned for that 😉
What does going Sri Lankan mean?? When have ppl from there ever been a problem anywhere else?? I'm genuinely curious why you'd bring them off all ppl into this...
@@skap_attackyou should make a video how he quit the season splash bros were injured. He faked an injury like his idol and all season was on TNT. He got outplayed by the 2 rookie bigs. No IQ, leadership, facilitating, and get this DEFENSE 😱😱. It's almost like wo the splash there was no reason for refs to allow him to bend verticality/contact/screens/fouling...
Those five on the court would beat the prime GS by 30 points. Daymond wouldn't be guarding anyone because he'd be too busy crying in the women's bathroom.
I like how when Kobe and Shaq sat down for their interview together post retirement and they recalled their 2004 Finals loss, Kobe said (paraphrasing) “2004 was my fault. I didn’t get us prepared to run our automatics. I didn’t get Gary, Karl, the new guys ready enough” and there was absolutely no argument from Shaq. Who was the unquestioned leader of that team again?
Also they were fighting. If they were good they sweep pistons. Billups admit to exploit their relationship dynamic too. It wasn't about basketball play but beef
@@malikwilson7387 Tayshaun was playing his second season. Nevertheless, he was young. But he's also perhaps the best defensive small forward ever. They also had Rip Hamilton, another elite defender to guard Kobe. Ben and Rasheed Wallace were great defenders, but also power forwards. Shaq wasn't in his prime anymore, but was able to put up decent numbers versus them.
Shaq's reaction to Klay guarding Kobe. 😂 2013 Kobe was cooking Klay and he was old. Klay was never known as a defensive stopper. Kobe cooked all defensive stoppers besides maybe Tony Allen and still averaged 25 against him.
Doug Christie was a better defender than Klay and even he couldn't stop Kobe. Klay Thompson made one All-Defensive 2nd team selection. How was he going to stop Kobe?🤣🤣 Fisher and Harper would have played full court press on Steph. Kobe is guarding Klay. So no open shots for him. Grant and Horry would have no problem with Draymond. Shaq would be Shaq.
1. All defensive selections are valuable but i would like to argue that tayshaun prince who guarded kobe wasn't voted to all defensive team until 04-05. So even though klay wasn't voted to one until 17-18, klay could probably hold his own (It would be damn near impossible so the defensive schemes will have to be on point). 2. Derek fisher would be eaten alive by curry. Ron harper was 37. 3. robert horry was a very good role player, but iggy can def handle him. horace grant would be locked by draymond. Also, this is 35 year old Horace not a prime horace. 4. Shaq will be shaq and it would be tough trying to keep him out of the post.
@@21Kolb that's fair. I'm not saying Fisher and Harper will lock down Steph, however, by playing full court press which no one does these days, he's not going to get those wide open shots that he gets. Will he hit yes, but there will be a few misses and Shaq will be there to grab the rebound. I'm not counting on Horry nor Grant to be big time scorers. I'm saying they'll stop Green. Draymond is effective in the GSW system. However that man can do little to nothing on his own. He's proven time again to be Mr triple single without Klay and Steph. Draymond would help out with Shaq so someone is going to be open to shoot 3s, be it Horry, Fox, Fisher, Shaw, or heaven forbid it's when they had Rice on the team. He'd have a field day.
Kobe would’ve dropped 30-40 on Klay, easily. They’d have to double team him or he would go off. Andre Igoudala would’ve been charged with guarding him anyways.
Draymond still believes he's "the best defender in nba history" when he's not even top 50 or 75. He should never step foot on a court ever again he's literally a disgrace to pro sports
@@jit1709 there's loads of great defenders in league history. I don't think he's top 100. Not a slight against him more so there's just loads upon loads of great defenders out there.
@@trowabarton321 not as versatile as draymond without his dpoy level defense that dynasty dont ever happen the best defender on one of the greatest dynasties isnt a top 50 defender make it make sense
Pretty sure 2013 Kobe crossed Klay on the floor one game and then THE Achilles game beat the warriors to put the lakers in the playoffs. In his mid to late 30s.
As the years go by I realize how much I have been underrating my guy Kobe (the guy in my PFP). What he was able to accomplish - on both ends of the floor, is one of the greatest things done since Michael Jordan retired in 2003.
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268 I see that you stepped off of the small yellow bus you took to school, I’m making the comparison that he’s been the most complete player in the league since MJ has retired since 2003. And since 2016 no player has been able to replicate his (Kobe) dominance on offense (mid/post/slashing/footwork/shooting), and defense as a player.
The media absolutely hates Kibe because he embarrassed them and proved them wrong. He’s the closest to MJ, and faced tough competition, and played for the Lakers where the lights were brightest. He’s also respected worldwide because he truly became a basketball ambassador. LeBalco cheated the game and ruined the NBA. What “GOAT” has a flop compilation?
Kobe didn't care about discourse and wouldn't participate. It's up to historians but their channels all rely upon MJ curry LBJ glaze. Or prop up next black hope. Shay can't
Accounting for the scoring averages of that time really magnifies what Kobe actually did. You said in an earlier video with today’s “defense” in the NBA, there’d literally be nothing stopping him from dropping 50-60-70 points a night whenever he chose to.
You’re wrong. Now lebron going to la with Kobe ? That would’ve gotten them 3-4 straight. They’d both be at 6 or more rings today and we’d know them as potentially the best duo ever.
They hated him when he played (one MVP? gimme a break!) and now that he's dead, they need to justify themselves and their continued hate. Too bad for them, real NBA fans know the truth.
Kobe Bean Bryant would would smoke Klay like a blunt! For real. He's got a combination of skill and footwork that Klay hasn't seen since, well, Kobe retired. I'm obviously biased, but I think the Lakers would beat them in five! In any event great video! Like I said you make some of my favorite Kobe videos.
Being a Jordan fan, I absolutely hated the lakers and the threat they posed to winning more than the bulls. I especially hated Kobe because of this and pulled against him his entire career. He scared the hell out of me though and I knew he was a problem. But because I was so anti-Kobe, I tried to deny his greatness and did so until I started watching Skap. I’ve had to be honest with myself after listening to Skap’s arguments about Kobe and I find myself unable to disagree. Dude really was that guy. It’s sort of healed me in a way because I hated Kobe for so long but was watching him dominate and be the reason those 5 championships happened. My mind is more at ease now. I can admit it without the hate. Thanks Skap
We already knew MJ fans hated feared Kobe. Skap slights Kobe in every video for MJ. It's gross AF. Kobe did more w less than him too. Better leader too. MJ was toxic, Kobe was not and didn't have pippen the other guys confided in
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268 well you took this a bit too far than I intended there. I never said MJ was now less in my mind. Just that I was now making room for Kobe. You’ll never convince me or anyone who actually watched Jordan that Kobe is better. That’s always been the problem
@@ryanmoeck7826 nope you admitted it. Kobe was more skilled and beat tougher competition. MJ expansion era and watered down league less comp. Nike puppet to expand a star not a game hence ft merchantry push offs palming
@chauvintookaknee4blm268 Yeah, I think LeBron and MJ are both greater than Kobe, however, it is funny to me how some of these Kobe stans are really just MJ stans that only prop up Kobe to slight LeBron. At least you seem like a real Kobe fan, even if I heavily disagree with your takes
@@BBallGOAT Nah, most of the LeBron stans (u) are just afraid that most ACTUAL NBA players pick Kobe over Bron and that most casual fans STILL pick Kobe over LeBron when they actually do any real scientific polling (I did one as a college project on campus in Virginia and Kobe won by a landslide even with Prime LeBron). Most MJ fans have Kobe ahead of LeBron because Kobe most exemplifies the virtues they admire most in MJ, and for the fact Kobe's the closest thing to MJ in terms of skill, fundamentals, will-power, toughness, hoops IQ, and RINGS (he and mj are the only two players to three peat while making all nba teams AND all-nba DEFENSE teams for all 3 rings, the ONLY TWO PLAYERS). Most players think Kobes better; most fans think Kobe's better. Only LeBron stans think Lebron is better than either (and the analytics nerds who invented PER to artificially prop him up and his penchant for racking up easy uncontested defensive rebounds). No ACTUAL fans who are genuine basketball fans have LeBron over Kobe. I love the fact Jokic is blowing LeBron away in all the advanced efficiency metrics so by the very criteria the Bronsexuals lie and CLAIM Lebron is greater than Kobe, Jokic, by the EXACT same criteria, is FAR greater than LeBron. Gervonta Davis said it best: "Anybody who got Lebron over Kobe is out of they cotton-picking mind." Facts. He spoke for the culture. Go to any hood. Go ask. Kobe destroys Bron. ITS WHY YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS ON THESE CHANNELS. Kobe and MJ Fans don't go to LeBron channels because the guy is boring af to watch. No skill. Travels religiosly. Clunky jumper. Meh passing. BAD handles. Lots of uncalled carrying and pushoffs. There is no need to PROSELYTYZE on LeBalco channels because the real ones already know. Its Bron fans that simp for favor in the comments section because they know he's a media creation and ACTUAL people aren't drinking the kool-aid. Skap's channel is growing at a rate that, by this time next year, it will be VERY apparent that more people dislike LeBron more than any of the other greats. And this is despite the media fawning all over him daily. LeBron isn't a top 10 player. His fanbase is merely symptomatic of the need to mandate REAL IQ tests for participation in these discussions. Lowest IQ bunch. Explain LeBron's #1 ALL TIME LEAD IN TURNOVERS by more than 500! That's next level bad basketball. That's poor hoops IQ. A turnover is the worst play in basketball. Full stop. LeBrons ONLY case over Kobe is MVPS (voted on, politics) and SOME stats which, in a vacuum, is completely meaningless. The guy is not a better player than Kobe Bryant, anybody with eyes and/or an IQ over 110 can see this. I'm never met a high IQ person who thought LeBron was better than Kobe. And no amount of empty stat-padding (a la Westbrook) is going to change that. Luka will end his career with better per game averages ACROSS THE BOARD than LeBalco (who definitely takes EPO, shout out to Chael Sonnen), and Jokic has already passed LeBalco in PER (AD is going to pass LeBalco in PER too). Jokic has BETTER EFFICIENCY STATS than LeBalco and a ring with LESS help than any of LeBalco. LeBalco has less rings than Kobe but LeBalco stans have to pretend like empty stat-padding is more important than carrying your team to rings, so by their logic: Jokic > LeBalco; Luka > LeBalco. Better STATS. See Bron stans? The stats argument is a double-edged sword. Win. Winning is where GOAT debates begin and end. LeBalco fans think going 1-8 vs KD Warriors but averaging 33 ppg while winning 1 game in 9 attempts is 'GOAT' behavior lol. The only tactic LeBalco stans have is to OVER-EXAGGERATE and OVERRATE the level of competition LeBalco faced in the Finals to justify while all of his empty stats didnt lead to any winning. KD Warriors almost lost to Harden Rockets (went to game 7, with an INJURED CHRIS PAUL, and the Warriors only won game 7 by single digits despite Houston MISSING a franchise record 27 threes). IF Cp3 was healthy, Houston beats the KD Warriors in 7. They almost beat them WITHOUT CP3 (who, since Bronsexuals love stats so much, btw has a higher CAREER VORP than Magic Johnson - so CP3 > Magic 'bEcAuSe oF sTatS"). LeBalco went 1-8 against the same team Harden almost BEAT SINGLEHANDEDLY: 3-4 > 1-8. Harden had LESS help than LeBalco did. LeBron would win ZERO rings with Pau Gasol as his running mate; and ZERO rings with Pippen (nowhere near as great on offense as Wade or Kyrie).
Kobe in his prime had to be guarded by all-league defensive level players, like Doug Christie, Shane Battier, Bruce Bowen, Raja Bell, Tony Allen, Ruban Patterson and Shawn Marion, and almost routinely COOKED every last one of them. EVERY ONE OF THOSE GUYS I JUST NAMED WERE AT LEAST AS GOOD A PERIMETER DEFENDER AS KLAY THOMPSON. See this is why I hate athletes/former athletes interviewing athletes/former athletes. Any serious and knowledgeable interviewer would have easily refuted and challenged Draymond‘s goofy and flawed takes.
That is a great point to bring up. Everyone likes to talk about how Kobe had Shaq, but it's almost never brought up that Shaq has always had some pairing with an elite guard/forward. Similarly, I've long since thought Klay Thompson was overrated and was only propped up to make it seem like LeBron faced tougher opponents than he actually did. Suggesting that Klay could guard Kobe just further proves that point. It's laughable.
Dude you need to cover Shaq and how he rewrites history after Kobe died and now after the death of Bill Walton. Also if you haven’t touched up on LeBron saying the Miami heat wasn’t a super team and that Eric Spo was his favorite and smartest coach lmao
Kobe in his later years avg. 28 ppg, 4 apg & 5.8 rbg against Klay Thompson & GSW, including dropping 44 on them the year they became known as the NBA Champion Splash Brothers. I’m going to go out on a limb and say prime Kobe would absolutely murder Klay trying to guard him. If Bruce Bowen, Ruben Patterson, Matt Barnes, Tony Allen who were all superior defenders than Klay couldn’t stop prime Kobe, Klay would get torched.
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268 klay played well defensively, however there were better defenders than him. He was a borderline all defensive level player before his injury. When you have players like dray and iggy guarding and switching on and off top level perimeter players, its hard to really see his defensive impact. You said it best. The system was top notch. I still think klay was a good individual defender though.
The funny thing is that draymond thinks that klay 0 points in the play in thompson can guard kobe as much as i like the warriors that ain’t gonna happen
Calling Draymond an enforcer is an insult to the endorcers of the past. If he wasnt the only one allowed to be giving beat downs, he would be very quiet.
Shaq and Kobe was just unfair. Two top 10 players in their primes. Kids today don't remember how Invincible that team seemed. They're kinda the best duo ever pound for pound. Only Curry and KD compare; they were about to 3-peat if KD didn't go down in 2019
Kyrie Irving & Luka Doncic have both said in there last series that they absolutely love & respect Draymond Green even going as far as calling him the best defensive player in the nba it is a strange dichotomy between the media & the actual players respected nba players seem to greatly appreciate Draymond Green 🤷🏻♂️
Bc he's won too much. If you criticize him it's just hate but we all know why he won and how much he got away with. If a guy keeps getting away w fouling and dirty plays no one will tax him bc the end result is a stop or win. Same w the things stars get away with. Some guys entire game is built around ref help Shay curry Gianni's green dort McDaniels ant
Nah. You cannot say Shaq played with an embarrassment of riches and not acknowledge who Kobe played with. Those Shaq Lakers were stacked and so were the Pau Gasol Lakers.
This bullshit about Lebron's IQ has to stop. The player with the most turnovers all time, with a subpar ast/to ratio. He is not a good decision maker, this lie has to stop.
Only game six of the series had questionable calls because they wanted to extend it to seven games. The Kings lost game seven all on their own. I’m tired of the revisionist history and people saying that the series was rigged. It wasn’t.
@@facelessandnameless buddy, game 6 was the end of the series, and that game was 100% verifiably rigged, testified in court by Tim Donaghy! As a teenager I was watching that game hoping the Lakers would win but being disgusted with how blatantly rigged that game was. Where were you watching game 6 in 2002?
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 that doesn't erase what the refs were doing in that game for the Lakers to even be that close or Tim Donaghy's testimony. That's just one of the series that were listed in rigged NBA playoffs so deal with it. Big Shot Bob is a legend and everybody knows that if the game is close and Horry is out there, the chances of you losing by a buzzer beater are significantly higher, refs made it to where the game was close so Horry could be Horry
