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Vintage Concert Audio at Prolight + Sound 2023 with Wolfgang „Schabbach“ Neumann 

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Finally mothergrid presents the english version of a tour through the impressive Vintage Concert Audio exhibition at Prolight + Sound 2023.
Experience equipment by WEM, Marshall, Shure, Orange Amplification, Lem, d&b audiotechnik, Meyer Sound, L-Acoustics, Electro-Voice, Midas Consoles, Yamaha Commercial Audio, Ramsa, Soundcraft, Zeck Audio, Zoot Horn, Bose and many more.
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Комментарии : 110   
@scottwheeler2494
@scottwheeler2494 Месяц назад
God i remember working with a crappy Southern rock cover band in the mid 80's doing sound. They had no clue about sound reproduction and had misspent a lot of money for a 4 piece band. I remember bringing in my Hafler DH500 to demonstrate the sound of a separate amp versus a mixer amp. Reconed speakers to clean up their bass bins. Got better compression drivers. Had them sounding better than they deserved by the time i went to college and was to be exposed to touring sound. Meyers, Clair Bros. TurboSound. Insane hanging weights for our airroof building. Racks and racks of Crown amps for the U2 subs. They spent their money on sound instead of lights back then. Boy has that changed. Great video. Brought back memories. Thought real hard about making sound for a living but the pros that I was working with talked me out of it. FOH mixing was such a hit or miss career target. I now know that sound engineering would have been a better target for me. Still love sound.
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Месяц назад
Thanks for your memories!
@optimusbraun2060
@optimusbraun2060 Год назад
Wonderful! They should consider writing a book/encyclopedia!
@andywild9183
@andywild9183 Год назад
Fully agree, would be a fantastic read
@pedrosolocutorbc
@pedrosolocutorbc Месяц назад
Congratulations Mr Wofgang! You makes me go to the past when I used my analog mixers, like yamaha Rm800 in my studio, Yamaha Promix 01 in my small PA, and my Soundcraft Spirit Live 4 32 channels mixer for PA. There were a lot of mixers you show that I was dreaming to buy in the past. Today I use the digital mixers from england, yamaha and so on. Thanks you so much for your class and tour, and obviously to he people that makes this place with all this audio history. I wish I was there too! From Brazil, congratulations again!
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Месяц назад
@@pedrosolocutorbc Thank you for the Kind words!
@StereoAnthony
@StereoAnthony Год назад
WOW! What a treat to stumbled on this! I haven't even watched it yet, but had to share my gratitude right away! I'be been fascinated by the old gear for years.
@rikvee
@rikvee Год назад
Love all of that, thank you so much for preserving so much and bringing it all together. I have been using most of that gear since 1974, so it was a real trip down memory lane for me as well...
@digitaldesigner5284
@digitaldesigner5284 2 месяца назад
Very cool and informative.Real treasure.
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@LeFix07
@LeFix07 Год назад
I attended one of their evening listening sessions. Very interessting to see and hear how much the systems improve over time. For my personal taste, the F2 B1 combination from d&b sounded absolutly incredible. Thank your afford, making this vintage sound experience.🎉
@williamweiss6128
@williamweiss6128 Год назад
Cool. I remember everyone in our local bands using the 2x15" Martin bins in clubs. Punchy.
@mikebottiaux5850
@mikebottiaux5850 10 месяцев назад
Great collection!
@ChrisDiRoma
@ChrisDiRoma Год назад
I love this video. Thank you for making it.
@villebooks
@villebooks Год назад
The reason why I love this exhibition is, you can walk around with your pair of 70s bootcut trousers and loose long hair without feeling misplaced 😅
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
😅
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk Год назад
Or work for a software company.
@Diesel0807
@Diesel0807 10 месяцев назад
The EV MT4s were 1996 ACDC with Pab Boothroyd, I remember that PA hanging on either side very loud show ... the X array they took out the next tour was really clean sounding as well given the SPL
@aaax9410
@aaax9410 Год назад
What a Wonderful tour , cheers man
@solitaire5142
@solitaire5142 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for posting this and thank you for making me feel old:) It was nice to reminisce; I was fortunate enough to use most of those large format consoles and outboard gear back in the day. I can still feel what those P&G faders on the Midas PR consoles felt like.. It would have been cool to see a Clair S-4 or even Turbosound TMS-3 along side the others.
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine 10 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it! We have some Turbosound in another video, but it's unfortunately in german only...
@zambotv8150
@zambotv8150 4 месяца назад
Man, memories came flooding back, I have mixed on so many of those consoles,,, Some of those consoles sounded amazing
@ruedigerstrattneable
@ruedigerstrattneable Год назад
Vielen Dank für Eure klasse Initiative als Verein! Gut zusammengefasst hier, war aber auch vor Ort eine riesen Freude.
@duboko3807
@duboko3807 5 месяцев назад
Merci 👍 Extraordinaire rassemblement de matériel qui ont fait l'histoire du son. ❤
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine 5 месяцев назад
De rien!
@vacuumelite2065
@vacuumelite2065 Год назад
Ohhhhh, thank you so much. That was a real trip. Love those Phillishave cabinets. 😊😊
@SanFranciscoFatboy
@SanFranciscoFatboy Месяц назад
i LOVED this video :). i still own my Kustom PA just like yours, it sounds terrible for singing but does it ever look good :). cheers and props for your sound museum, if i ever get to germany i will visit :)
@liudas5377
@liudas5377 Год назад
That was so awesome!!!
@gadymarcus2362
@gadymarcus2362 4 месяца назад
Bello/Magnifico.✡️😱😱😱😱😱😱💪🌡️
@jonathanpaulcookemusic
@jonathanpaulcookemusic Год назад
I’ve always wondered about sound reinforcement from the “golden days” of popular music. Absolutely fascinating. Thanks for uploading
@vintageaudioworkshop
@vintageaudioworkshop Год назад
Great show!
@andywild9183
@andywild9183 Год назад
Great video, Wonderful to see the old stuff, Martin Audio with the philoshaves sounded amazing. I would add some Turbo sound tms3, Meyer UPA, JBL 4560, Hill M1, Drawmer Gates, Alesis MIDIverbs….
@andywild9183
@andywild9183 Год назад
Actually not forgetting the Clair Bros S4, I heard this when I saw U2 in ‘85. Can you imagine one box with 2x18, 4x10, 2xHF, 2xSHF
@solitaire5142
@solitaire5142 10 месяцев назад
The US Festival used 90 a side. Imagine what that sounded like?!@@andywild9183
@MBdrummer3288
@MBdrummer3288 Год назад
This was awesome! Thank you so much for the tour. I WISH I could hear some of these systems! Damn. Some absolutely incredible gear!
@julianreverse
@julianreverse Год назад
Die MSL3 läuft noch immer jeden Abend im Spectrum Augsburg. Ich liebe sie.
@oXjqd8ljGAUCx5Hy1oicy2Sc
@oXjqd8ljGAUCx5Hy1oicy2Sc Год назад
OMG OMG!!, so good material, is it okay to use this video for educational purposes? I want to get permission.
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
Hi, feel free to show this video in public and share or embed the link whereever you want. Just simply do not download it. Thank you!
@brucenicoll4373
@brucenicoll4373 2 месяца назад
Very very cool love from Wellington nz
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine 2 месяца назад
Greetings to the other end of the world from Leipzig!
@brucenicoll4373
@brucenicoll4373 2 месяца назад
@@mothergrid-magazine thanks brother it would be nice to do this sort of thing with nz and Australia most of the gear has been used and stall used
@djrickysmith
@djrickysmith Год назад
This was fun to watch.. I still have some of these PA systems in storage. I still use the EV MT4's
@parklee3708
@parklee3708 Год назад
Company I work for still uses them. Boss loves them.
@patthesoundguy
@patthesoundguy Год назад
This is fun, I have mixed on some of those big Martin rigs over the years and I just got rid of four of those JBL wedges from the 80s they are 1982 Cabaret series if I remember right. I have used tons of those Cerwin Vega bottoms B36. I have mixed on MSL3 cabs. And lots and lots of the Bose 802, they were great for hanging from tall stands for public address for sports fields.
@patthesoundguy
@patthesoundguy Год назад
I mixed on one of those series 1 sound crafts they sounded sooo good.
@patthesoundguy
@patthesoundguy Год назад
You can't give a PM3000 or 4000 away for free now, how times have changed.
@ganjafarmer1572
@ganjafarmer1572 Месяц назад
Excellent video Herr Wolfgang. Was Turbosound popular in Germany?
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Месяц назад
@@ganjafarmer1572 Yes!
@kaiulrich6185
@kaiulrich6185 Год назад
Es gab mal eine Open Air Show, für die alle Zoothorn Systeme in Deutschland zusammengesammelt wurden, ich weiss nicht mehr, was das war. Und in einem Club in Hannover gab es ein Zoothorn Mischpult, riesig gross, aber nur 24 Kanäle.
@FVDaudio
@FVDaudio Год назад
✨✨👏🏻👏🏻 As always... Thanks!
@joelglaser5657
@joelglaser5657 Год назад
Very interesting. Thank you.
@jimigrok
@jimigrok Год назад
thanks for the tour !
@digitaldesigner5284
@digitaldesigner5284 Год назад
Audio history treasure.
@kaiulrich6185
@kaiulrich6185 Год назад
I used a Ramsa S1 for FOH once, so now you know someone, who did.
@dbfjohn2502
@dbfjohn2502 2 месяца назад
Brook my back setting up many a PM3/4 when I started stagehanding.
@soarornor
@soarornor Год назад
Someone needs to revive the WEM brand. Their stuff had really cool design.
@FUNKLABOR_DL1LEP
@FUNKLABOR_DL1LEP 6 месяцев назад
Großartige Erinnerungen❤
@alas8estrenamos
@alas8estrenamos Год назад
Esa es nuestra historia!!!
@cliffbungalow9373
@cliffbungalow9373 2 месяца назад
I have a gold Echolette tape echo that I used for years as a pre amp
@jasondorsey7110
@jasondorsey7110 2 месяца назад
I have an old Lafayette spring reverb unit that was suposed to be for vocals but works well as a guitar preamp
@sos-saveourspectrum1736
@sos-saveourspectrum1736 Год назад
Wow !!!
@bobbaumeister5243
@bobbaumeister5243 Год назад
Sackradi, das war absolut geil! Ich hab noch zwei P1 von Dynacord rumstehen.
@revstar3165
@revstar3165 Год назад
Wurden die konzerte aus denen die aufnahmen vom album in transit von saga genommen wurden über so eine anlage der frühen 80er ins publikum gebracht
@MassiveFail
@MassiveFail Год назад
I like Your Beckenbauer style to speak english
@minimoog4236
@minimoog4236 2 месяца назад
Martin Philishaves - Jeez that brings back memories.
@jeffseven2194
@jeffseven2194 6 месяцев назад
First band in the 70s we had the Shure vocal master with matching cabinets
@Kevin-kr5ok
@Kevin-kr5ok 2 месяца назад
Man… moving the old Heil fiberglass cabinets was a chore my son !
@duroxkilo
@duroxkilo Год назад
lovely video, thank you.. 19:44 may i ask what were the limitations that prohibited the use of line arrays for concerts in the past?
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
Thanks for your question, Schabbach replied as follows: „There was no line array for touring concert use until VDosc. Before that, there was simply no concert line array suitable for touring. Christian Heil has brought the line array format into a road suitable format. The line array technology is much older and has been used for a long time, e.g. in fixed installations.“ I hope we could help! Markus
@duroxkilo
@duroxkilo Год назад
@@mothergrid-magazine thank you mr Markus... is it safe to assume then that the size/weight made them unusable for portable sound systems prior to mr Christian Heil array system?
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
@@duroxkiloI don‘t think so. Large boxes we’re flown before, too. But I‘m sure we have lots of people with knowledge here that can answer your questions.
@duroxkilo
@duroxkilo Год назад
@@mothergrid-magazine thank you
@duroxkilo
@duroxkilo Год назад
@@mothergrid-magazine ok, thank you...
@danielelise7348
@danielelise7348 2 месяца назад
I'd be a kid in a candy store at this place.🤤🔊🔊🔊
@richardbelisle4807
@richardbelisle4807 9 месяцев назад
How fun…..oh my…I started with a sound craft 200 24 x4 I didn’t know shit….but I was a lead singer so I understood how a vocal should sound And I could get it loud before feed back…..then over some time and many mistakes I got to understand how effects sat in a mix Two spx90 one Roland sde1000. One SPX was verb which went across drums and vox…second pitch doubler flange and reverse reverb only effects I used….we had showco tops 2x12 large 2” horn and 4 double 18 peavy subs 2 preside…to this day I hear engineers whose vocals sound harsh or boxy 400-800 hz needing to go….but no one seems to care….thanks for the video
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine 9 месяцев назад
Happy to read you like it!
@jameslifetimelearner
@jameslifetimelearner 2 месяца назад
Altec Voice of the Theater? They’re probably still in use.
@gazgaskell
@gazgaskell 29 дней назад
BTW What Americans refer to as "tubes" we call "valves" in the UK.
@kadomingtipi1006
@kadomingtipi1006 Год назад
Where is Bheringer ×32?
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
In the future.
@bayougtr
@bayougtr 2 месяца назад
Plenty of Sure PA’s in many rehearsal spaces 80’s-90’s.
@axelguzman8408
@axelguzman8408 11 месяцев назад
You didn’t talk about community you have there they are still the best company
@abc123gpl
@abc123gpl 2 месяца назад
13:26 why no word to the Community Boxes ?
@OtherMike5000
@OtherMike5000 Год назад
When the PMD-5 is vintage…..
@andrewgillis8572
@andrewgillis8572 2 месяца назад
chronological - or left to right - why not organize this layout to correspond with the talk?
@aloisxyz
@aloisxyz 8 месяцев назад
its a shame to show these meyer MSL boxes with the front foam... They such cool and beautiful phaseplugs
@whathobbythisweek
@whathobbythisweek Год назад
Surprised the Yamaha O2R wasn't in there.
@sonus289
@sonus289 2 месяца назад
hm no one mentioned the turbosound tms3\4 rigs
@gabbajon5654
@gabbajon5654 3 месяца назад
where's the turbosound??
@richardbelisle4807
@richardbelisle4807 9 месяцев назад
Preferred pm 3500
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 Год назад
No turbosound?
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
It wasn‘t mentioned this time, but I think in both of the previous videos we made about the VCA - unfortunately they‘re in german.
@thetruckmobilerecodingunit5569
I have a Tycobrahe Blue Board, would you like to buy it?
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
Schabbach says: If the board is located in the EU please get in contact with us via our website vintage-concert-audio.com/
@thetruckmobilerecodingunit5569
@@mothergrid-magazine No, we are in California
@thetruckmobilerecodingunit5569
it is the same board the Stones used on Give Me Shelter tour
@Yodinator1108
@Yodinator1108 6 месяцев назад
41:44 the ARRIs which you can see in the background are from my father
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
The Only PA i have is the Delta-X218B | Unpowered Dual 18" Subwoofer that it 😔
@ganjafarmer1572
@ganjafarmer1572 Месяц назад
More budget $$$ for lighting than audio today. Times change yes, but to me it's sad.
@ChristianPinnock-u5c
@ChristianPinnock-u5c 6 месяцев назад
Reggae sound system speakers 😂
@guitarplayer5932
@guitarplayer5932 2 месяца назад
ullo my name is fhrnfygrnficbegfuufjndcysfcsgdjfjfshienen
@johnkristian
@johnkristian Месяц назад
learn not to breathe heavily and SNORE directly into the microphone. Gross.
@Sound-Definition
@Sound-Definition Год назад
das geschmatze und geschnaufe nervt.....
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
Tut mir echt leid. Du bekommst natürlich Dein Geld zurück.
@Sound-Definition
@Sound-Definition Год назад
@@mothergrid-magazine das macht dann 3 Mark fünfzig.....
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
@@Sound-DefinitionDa wurdest Du aber über den Tisch gezogen…;-)
@Sound-Definition
@Sound-Definition Год назад
@@mothergrid-magazine aber nur über ein Bühnentisch.... alles andere währe ein Gerücht...
@mothergrid-magazine
@mothergrid-magazine Год назад
@@Sound-Definition😂
@netautorisationnetautorisa545
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