Vintage RUBBER Bowling Ball (1968) VS Vintage REACTIVE Bowling Ball (1991) 

Just a demonstration of how back in the day a 175 ave got you on the Classic Leagues and a 180 + got you competitive in most scratch tournaments. 600 series actually meant something and a 700 series was a " life goal " ... I miss those numbers ... But time changes everything .

gotta remember the black diamond was made for wood lanes w barely any oil on them. Its hard to comprehend the difference on todays lanes due to the volume of oil put out and how the lanes are different but you can def tell the difference w the ball in general. I have an ebonite black beauty rubber ball and i use to use it for spares. Its amazing how the industry has changed. I would love to go to the holler house and use it on their lanes.

The Black Diamond finally had enough and went after you at the end.

Huge difference in technology between those two balls. Black Diamond: hard rubber shell and pancake weight block. The shell is heavier than the core. I've never seen an RG measurement for an old rubber ball, but it would certainly be higher than a White Dot. Maybe as high as 2.8 or so? Back in the late 1970s I carried a Roto Silver Streak, which was a Black Diamond labeled for Roto. It was a ball for dry lanes, and back then bowling was bigger and it was common to have two shifts of leagues a night. For the 9:30PM league a rock like this came in handy. Compared to a vintage White Dot it had a different shape downlane, with a tendency to bite early in the track (which you noticed) even though the surface measured harder, but lots of skid and energy retention when you got deeper. Rubber tracked up quick too, which is why you saw ball polishing machines in bowling centers. It wasn't just to make them pretty.

I still throw my dads old 1968 AMF 3 dot. As a lefty, i found the new balls hook waaaay too much for me. I went back to the old ball about 20 years ago, and have shot 7 300's with it. I cant dispute that the new balls have more reaction, but the old ball still does the trick. Good video!!

I remember Jack Nicklaus saying in a book he wrote once that because of the current equipment(at the time he wrote the book) all golfers were hitting their shots straighter than they should, bowling got the same way..The reactive balls came out and everybody bowled higher scores because of it, they weren't necessarily better bowlers, the balls were just better. Then all those fancy sport shot patterns came out to equalize things again

No one on youtube does more interesting bowling content. Love it. Keep it up!

Props to you looks like you been working hard converting over to two-handed.

I bowled a 300/801 with a rubber ball, which was a Brunswick LT-48. Also had a 299 and several other high scores. Back then, the lanes had a lot of friction, and I still played as far outside as I could be comfortable, to find dry boards.

Last year I got beat by 70 pins in a title match by a guy who was throwing a rubber ball.

Thanks for the overlay! Finally! ❤Love these so much, since it‘s really hard to compare multiple shots one after another.

LOL. I use a 1950s rubber ball one hander no thumb and love it. it has a unique shape when you master it.

Black diamond was previously owned by a mail man.

That Lily trip at 7:40 made the whole video worth it. Obviously you have not used rubber much. 😂 Rubber requires a certain touch and method and when you understand how to use it on House it can be lights out. In my league a bowler only uses a 1968 rubber ball and shot his first 300 about a month ago. I used my rubber ball in the same league and had the front 8. Makes you respect the bowlers of old and their amazing scoring abilities with a simple cork filled rubber ball.

That's awesome, I have my dad's 83 black diamond and I just picked up a 91 blue hammer, might be old school league night on Sunday! 😂

The Black Diamond reminds me of how a purple hammer would react on house. You have to be sooooooo precise to get it to work

That 1991 Xcalibur has such a sexy roll down lane, looks competition worthy in my eyes

One of the bowling alleys in a town (probably like 20k people) near me has a bunch of rubber balls. All of their house balls are old rubber ones with the name engraved on them

You bringing these balls to the regional today. The motion circles for the ball path is cool! Thanks

U should test them on old wood lanes so they could truly show there true colors on the original conditions they were used on back in the day 😮

I am newer to your channel this year and I love your videos. I was thinking it would be cool to try and replicate different pba pros bowling styles for a video. Considering there are so many unique styles such as Jakob Butturffs as one example I think it would make for a cool video. You are extremely talented at trying new things in bowling right off the bat so I think it would be fun to see what you could do!

I had an old Black Beauty from the 50s that I plugged and redrilled fingertip in college that I won a regional in the early 80s. I often wonder with technology being what it is today, if a newly formulated rubber cover would work.

Also, the way they started oiling the lanes from the mid 70's on, basically ended the usefulness of any of those old classic balls. If you can find an old house with no oil, they'll still work!

Back in the early 90s, I joined a long winter mixed league. At first, I was so bad, I couldn't break 100. I was trying to throw a polyester ball straight, and failing miserably. My boss was a semi-pro bowler who gave me an old hard rubber ball and told me how to throw a hook. (He never watched me bowl, and I never watched him bowl.) Once I has getting consistent throws, I bought a burgundy hammer, and everything changed. By the end of the same league season, I was CRUSHING my average, and had I high score of 276! I was accused of deliberately ruining my average in the beginning of the season to rake in the money on the handicapped high score pots at the end. I still have that burgundy Hammer today, as well as an Ebonite Nitro reactive ball.

The Black Diamond is haunted. Tried to attack you. RUN !!!

I loved the EX!! I had that and the Pin Breaker (good Luck finding that ball) in the bag back in the 90's!! LOL

Awesome man I love bowling and I’m just now switching to two handed! Great vids!

*Vintage 1890s wooden bowling ball* vs ........well vs anything really. I'd love to see someone throw one of those.

The Black Diamond was the best we had back in the day; you shouldn't have called it "crap". It heard you and got vou!

That’s awesome. The black diamond was the ball I first started bowling with. Now I have a black and gold widow hammer

I used a Hard Rubber bowling ball when the Front part of the Lane was DRY. I moved target and feet to my right and shot 277. Paul

Always a treat when 220 uploads :)

You have to develop finesse in your game different techniques for shot making with a rubber ball. You'll be surprised how good they are still to this day

You got five three shots in a row with the black diamond, that was pretty consistent ngl

that was fucking hillarious at the end

Damn u just kept getting BONED all game🤣🤣

I always wondered what happened to the rubber balls. Well that question was answered 😂

Be interesting to see them on 1968 lane conditions and oiling with real wood.

Nice video! I had a black diamond back in the day but also had a black Manhattan Rubber ball that was one of my favoites. I had it with me in Mexico when going to school but was stolen-bag with ball and shoes. In those days all wood lanes for me but being lefthanded did not have track worn in lane like the righthanders dealt with. Miss the wood approaches and lanes!

Black diamond bowling ball tend to hit hard! I had that ball going into gutter and jumped out at the pin box. It did slammed down 6 pins!

I've got a couple old rubber balls that will part of the summer rotation with a modern Purple Hammer (shhh), a couple cored plastic balls, and an old urethane. Should be a fun summer, and hopefully my spare game improves.

The reason you kept going Brooklyn when felt like it was still a good shot you were setting the ball down on the lane earlier which gave the ball more time to react

My black diamond had a black diamond logo instead of the crown that yours has

He likes your cut G

Pins are definitely "easier" today than back in the 60's-70's.

Looked normal with the rubber you went 12 at arrows 10 down lane and went half loaf. Fill shot was 10 at arrows nearly 5 down lane and greek church. You dont have 15 boards with a rubber ball. If you plsyed 10 to 5 the whole game and maintained your ball speed you would have shot 230 easily.

You could definitely see the difference in hitting power. Has the bridge cracking on the X-Calibur?

love the overlay

It seems that you never adjusted for oil carry-down with the rubber ball. You made progressive adjustments with the reactive ball since you have experience with those adjustments. We probably need to see a urethane bowler use the rubber ball since they would probably have a better chance at making adjustments.

Bro, I would love to own a black diamond ball, something that old would be interesting to use and is a piece of bowling history

Buncha bad breaks, but man, I’m dying laughing here 😂

You need to make that black diamond 20lbs

More time has elapsed between the Nu-line bowling ball and today's bowling balls then has elapsed between that rubber bowling ball and the Nu-line

i have a old brunswick from1981 was my dads, i had it as a play toy for my rotties it had some chunks missin, then i started bowling 10 years ago so i had it cleaned up an drilled for me. that ball will not hook. i was using it for 10 pins but now i don't really need a spare ball. good video mike

That Xcalibur was good as new when you picked it up and its bridge already cracked?! lol

Back in the 1960s a 165 avg, got you on the all star league and usually high average for the house was either high 190s or maybe a low 2 teen.

I have a Black Beauty that I bowled with when I was in high school. Later on I bought an LT-48 that I still have as well which will hook a bit on synthetic lanes, but not much. I haven't used either for years. Used to use the Beauty for spare shots, but use a Storm Blackout Mix these days. Great video Mike! Enjoyed it. Proves that reactive is where it's at.

i've been using a black beauty the past few months for spares and as a strike ball. From 1958 I believe. Shot my previous high game of 268 with it I believe.

Learned to bowl with a rubber ball. I'm also lefthanded. Back then that was womewhat of a curse. I carried a 185 average. I had not bowled in 23 years. All the muscle memory I had would not work with the new balls.

Lesson learned: never say anything bad about one of your bowling balls unless it is sitting on the rack, on the floor or in your bag.

I still have my dad's Columbia Black Knight.

The shot with the rubber ball in the 7th frame looked really good… …and then it farted. 😂🤣

For a long time, I games a "Super X" from Nu Line, one of my all-time favorite balls. Would love to see how it handles more modern surfaces, oils, etc. if you can find one.

"Made in 1991" ... relatable

This just proves that you really had to be a "shot maker" back in the days before modern equipment.

And this is why PAR was 200 and now should be 230....respect the old school😎

A better comparison would be between the two "super" balls, the LT48 and the Excalibur.

The black diamond was for bone dry lanes. Try an LT-48 instead.

Entertaining as always!

Probably the first person to throw either of those 2 handed lol

Shot my first 700 with the X wooo back in 92

Now you need it on wooden lanes

can i ask why the lane you were on is 11 when its the first one (is there another side of the bowling alley?)

Roll that rubber ball on the old Lacquer surface. That would be cool to see

Great vid. Loved the 5-7-10 carry

Shot my first 300 with an ebonite don carter 2 gyro rubber ball in 2018. It was after there was a lot of plastic ball burn and carry down. The key with those is hard and straight and to use the 2-3 board to your advantage. If you play on the cliff the over under with rubber is too much, as you saw.

Video idea: you should plug every hole in the 50 hole ball and see what happens.

Should have tried LT48 or strike line instead that black Diamond. They called it a diamond for a reason

Did I see a crack between the fingers on the Caliber in the first video you made with it?

Question is will u use that black diamond in tournaments lol

Put a fresh 360 on that rubber ball, it will move then lol

through first 300 with Black Beauty in 1994

I think one person could score within 20 of each ball. Earl "The Machine" Anthony! (RIP) Please join a summer league throwing only the rubber ball. Would be interesting to see what you average over the course of a short season....

Just found out my great grandpas ball from ebonite is most likely from 1933. hard rubber ball and it wouldn't hook no matter what we did.

In the 60s-70s you'd be 180 avg bowler. Maybe even less with how lanes were oiled. Watch Bo Burton or Earl Anthony throw that equipment, power with finesse, it was a totally different game. Probably better, because someone like me would never have a 300 game under his belt lol

i member a old school have a yellow dot brunswick i think and he had 210-220 average with it

(Favorite part) Garbage ball attacks! LOLOLOL!!!

Cool tech bowling bowling ball old bowling ball 220 adverage bowler

RIP 220 bowler. You will be missed.

Is the Excalibur still allowed on PBA? Would be funny that you reach the TV show and play with it and Randy goes "He using a 1991 Excalibur, man that bring back memories" or something like that :D

In my opinion your game is much better, and your release smoother and more repeatable with two hands. I think that you should practice exclusively with two hands.

Xcalibur is money good option on tour when they dry up

I have not been getting notifications for your videos. I want to have a word with the Postmaster.

Wow, the X-Calibur even though pearl looks very progressive. I wonder how my solid would do .

Should have grabbed a Turbo X I believe that ball really changed bowling.

They must have sold a billion Xcalibers everyone I know had one lol

Bro rubber is not garbage i shot my new high and very first 278 with the 1960s amf magic lane with the 3 white dots

Throwing the way u throw does ur wrist hurt?

The Diamond isnt really made for todays cranking style. Move your shot with it far right and play down the first arrow and in and the results would have been much better.

Imagine trying to have an average over 200 with that ball.