After a few comments mentioning the music not fitting the subject matter… thank you. I’m aware it doesn’t fit. I hadn’t been doing this type of video long but in more recent ones you will notice more fitting sound-beds in those videos! 😃 it’s all a learning curve!
Yikes, I figured some lab thing and the water treatment issue was going on, but this superb breakdown. Sadly, though, the only proof of Supernaturality is his afterlife, since all of this is by memory for Dwayne. He knes everything. Except...the demon he would have to imagine from the little guys problems. Not necessarily a real demon, just his head in purgatory. I kind of do hate some of the cop out from a real supernatural horror beyond a purgatory mind trip that is everything else by analogy.
Are you serious? The music is great!!! As much times as I find my taste contrasting that of the majority in almost all things, starting to think I'm living on another planet! Also could you tell me the name of the song in 10:08?
8:04 I don't think it was actually his wife that said she was only with him for his money. She was wearing the plague doctor mask and her voice was distorted when she said it, so it was likely Dwayne's fear and insecurity being projected. His wife probably actually loved him, but his depression warped his view of the relationship and his own self worth.
Pretty sure that when a guy thinks that it's probably correct. Most women do that... I mean less than ever before dont get me wrong but its still most women.
A dead giveaway that Dwayne is dead pretty much right at the beginning of the game is that he has no reflection in mirrors, even though the objects he holds have reflections.
@@nu_kercat1 It says you‘ll see his hand for the first and the last time *only* when he shoots his family. Sorry if I wrote the first comment misleadingly
Some things I want to also point out: - Chlorpromazine, the medication name on the pill bottle, notably has adverse effects when mixed with alcohol. - Dwayne's time listed on the staff sheet shows that he was basically involved with MKUltra since it was Project ARTICHOKE. - The room Rakan dies in is the same room Dwayne shoots himself and his family in. Claire mentions he died in the cellar, and even hacking around in the game, it's the same map with some tweaks. - The name of the prescriber on Dwayne's pill prescription is Andrew Smith, also on the staff sheet in the lab section along with Dwayne's name. Honestly, I think their intention's were for it to be the same Dr. Smith from the hospital. - The four wall section interestingly has a radio in the vent with trigger words. It's the same exact voice as the Lucy treehouse section. Late into Lucy's chapter you can hear a very distorted demonic voice. If you pay close attention, the words are the same as the voices heard on the radio. They're hard to make out, but I can share the game files and you can definitely single out a fair chunk of the words. I theorize a lot of her communication with her friend when it talked to her via the radio, was her picking up on these radio triggers. The game definitely puts a lot of emphasis on those radios. Even the radio by the main entrance turning on drives your sanity down! - The staff key card you grab in the hospital suspiciously looks like Dwayne, imo. So yes, I think he had a fake job there as well. - At 11:00 the figure bent over is Lewis Taylor without the tar! It takes some hacking to see it, but we have an image of it on the Visage discord, if you'd like to see it. - The comic has a CIA looking character, similar to the man that locks Rakan in the cellar. - One of the characters emphasizes to Rose that she should have a nice "glass of water" - from here on, every panel with Rose she's drinking water before she eventually goes crazy. Backs up the spiked water theory. I definitely think Dwayne was a big part of the project, and carries a lot of guilt. Great video. It's nice to see people drawing the same overall conclusions. The dev's mentioned there's a larger backstory but they hid it in pieces. But when you put those pieces together, it's definitely evident there's a lot of attention to detail to MKUltra!
While these are all really interesting observations, I feel like these details were way too easy to miss. Of course looking back/hyper-analyzing the game it becomes obvious, but actually playing the game these things are insanely easy to miss and makes the story feel pointless at times.
@@baphfomet It was probably designed with this sort of collaboration from the community around the game in mind. sorta like the OG Legend of Zelda or something. But yeah, personally just playing the game by myself I can agree with you. I wouldn't get most of this and just spend the entire game scared shitless.
Someone help? I am a bit confused ! I thought Lewis Taylor died before Rakan was in the picture. So why would Rakan have seen Lewis at all? And then shot at him?
@@user-uq2jo8hw6s The devs themselves said that it was based upon PT. It makes sense, as there's a lot of spots in the house with visual resemblance, like the table with the radio, some of the hallways, and the room Dwayne wakes up in. There's even a Silent Hill 4 easter egg.
Yes! That was so good! I had heard broken theories before but NO ONE addressed the water thing! It's so obvious that water is a constant theme in the game. We see Rose drinking from a cup before she killed her husband, then drinking his blood. We see random tables appears with a single cup of water on them. We see a water treatment plant, leaking pipes, etc. We see Delores constantly drinking her "special tea" which was clearly making her worse. The water was obviously spiked and causing delusions in all of these people. In Dwayne's chapter, one of his mirror pieces is even located in the broken water heater. I'm so happy you connected those dots and even expanded on it! This is exactly what I was hoping for! Excellent work and wonderful playthrough!
Thanks! Yeah it’s one thing that kept standing out to me and the water treatment plant was the thing that confirmed it for me. Shocking thing is that I had to play the whole game twice because I needed footage without my face in the corner 😂 great game with an awesome story.
Regarding Lucy - I believe one of the initial motivations of MK Ultra and similar programmes was to test whether brain-washing techniques could be used to compel to become violent and act as assassins. It's possible Lucy's initial behavioural problems (including killing her pet bird, which I'm pretty sure happened before she received any medication) is because the house itself was also the testing area for experiments with radio signals as an alternative method to just using drugs (which Rakan seemingly discovered). Lucy's chapter shows that her 'friend' communicated with her through the TV and radio, and as someone else mentioned during the Prison VHS Tape you can find a radio embedded in the basement walls speaking random words which might act as triggers.
Ah, that makes sense. What kind of sick assholes to drug her (with the water) and order her to kill her own beloved bird (through the radio) ! 😢 And drug her even more after that...
Yeah, after everything I've heard about this game and it's connections to MKUltra, I don't think the house is a normal house at all. I think the CIA built it specifically for experimentation on the people living there. Cameras and microphones hidden everywhere, radios hidden in walls and vents to makes people think they're hearing things, controlling the water supply that was likely laced with mind-altering drugs. The house isn't haunted, it was built for this specific purpose.
Creators of this game did such a good job of visualizing everyone’s afflictions in the form of their “demons” to show how the characters are truly driven to the point of no return. Also loved the ending when you complete the tapes and Dwayne puts on the mask before he finally gets to exit the home, showing the burden he had to bear in daily living and having to hide behind who he saw himself as! Your historical explanation gives it much more depth and context and I believe it’s legit. Enjoyed watching!
I kinda felt like it was more that the house was haunted and took many many victims but this video is very convincing so I’m not as sure anymore. Cheers for the amazing vid!
Depression and psychological issues aren’t chemical imbalances that the main stream science world loves to harp on.. I knew there was a reason I was drawn to this game lol
I think it could be both. This explanation doesn't really capture everything (specifically, the shadow demon). If this were all a drug trip, why did the little girl say a demon came to her through the TV?
@@km1dash6 kids literally make up imaginary friends all the time. spice that with alittle early schizophrenia or general psychosis and you easily got a kid killing birds. not to mention it was evident she was glued to the TV for a lot of occasions she was probably influenced by whatever was being televised.
@@km1dash6 no actually it makes sense if it's tied to MK ultra which would mean the administration of LSD then the girls experience could be the drug feeding off of her imagination whilst her imagination is running wild with whatever she sees on the TV the 2 things would collectively bounce off of each other in her head, resulting in what happened to her
Honestly I like the music, I don't get why every time someone is discussing a horror game the soundtrack has to be creepy. I'm here to understand the story and I don't need to feel creeped out or scared while doing so, the game already did that.
Agreed, but ambiance in a video is important (at least for me) and choosing a quieter song is simple. The only difference is that i'm not gonna write a comment to complain about it, especially since the video content is extremelly interesting
I mainly think the MKUltra thing is revolved around that house, especially when it comes to the whole lucy chapter because in the treehouse section you see a number of drawings that at first look like possession but when you look at this theory it makes it look like the agents communicated with her through the TV and radios which made her gain trust in this 'friend' and convinced her to kill peaco (repetition of 'get rid of it lucy' get rid of it' aka trying to test if the mind controlling works this then leads to the picture of lucy with the needle in her arm (potentially the LSD) and her trapped within the shadows grasp (their control) also being in the treehouse and she still cant get away from the friend (radio in the treehouse) plus all the eye symbols. When you finish the treehouse scene you then have to make your way to lucy's bedroom which you peak through the door in a parent like position in my opinion seeing what your kid is doing, then bam the 'friend' shuts the door aka telling us they dont want anyone interfering with whats going on (not letting us in) I also think that dwayne mostly drinked alcohol instead of water because he knew that he spiked it or what had happened to it Also with all the secret compartments and connections just makes the house seem like a perfect place for testing and spying Next up is the the deloras death scene, you are spying on her when this happens which could give symbolism that all the victims are being watched to see how it all turns out seeing that she brutally murdered her husband because she thought he was poisoning her/trying to kill her (irony) but spared the baby perhaps meaning that these victims do have a sense of normal ness With rakans death scene he was placed in a cellar and since the houses cellar which you first begin in is hidden down in the basement it only makes sense that he was trapped in the house hidden away to not be seen, i say this purely based off the fact that the mirror you look into when he gets locked in can be seen when you flash the camera into the room plus the prison vhs tape is found next to the opening of it, this all makes me think about how the agents didnt want him to live as he could spread word hence why he was trapped, but also because in lucys chapter the bird is killed. Why? Correct me if theres something obvious but if that bird was a mocking bird or a parrot the agents wouldnt want it hearing what they said to lucy and thats why she killed it by taking its head off or just a test to see if the test subjects can kill the things they love. i also think 'they' made her kill herself (the demon standing tall next to her/influencing that she does it) because they heard that mother might stop the treatments via syringes which would ruin their whole operation with lucy One last mention is that if you search up about LSD being used in medical treatment it says how it was used for anxiety (dalores+rakan), depression (dwayne+dalores+lucy), psychosomatic diseases (all) and addiction (dwayne) it could be represented as one per person but i can't really see that but its interesting that it all can kind of relate, i put lucy in depression and thats because in one of the tapes the quote is 'tear your jaw off of your ugly face' or something like that which could be the fact of lucy perhaps being bullied aswell which could be why she trusted this 'friend' so easily - easily manipulative as well I could be completely waffling and making no sense but this video just makes the cogs in your head run mad and im trying to connect stuff together. Especially when you play the game, love it ❤👍
Great video, very well thought and researched! I'd like to add some small details I noticed, specifically in Chapter Dolores. I think she was suffering from postpartum depression, which got really aggravated due to the chemicals the "doctors" administered to her. There is some interesting visual symbolism that seems to lead to this idea. The glass sphere and the mirror near the progress room that represents a woman's womb. There's also the vinyl with Fruhlingstimmen op 410, a waltz composed by Johan Strauss. Some people believe that classical music has a positive effect on babies while they're still on the womb. I believe that Dolores spent a lot of time listening to that vynil before having the baby. Also, playing the vynil at the end of the chapter leads to a room full of stairs and locked doors, which represent Dolores' mind. I think she was desperately trying to lock the bad thoughts plaguing her mind, but in the end she knew she would fail. I think that the fear of harming her own baby was ultimately the thing that made her take her own life. That's why she is seen saying goodbye to the baby right before doing it. I post this just because I loved chapter Dolores sooo much. It is beautiful, gut-wrenching and dark, and in my opinion, the peak of this game. I would love to see a full anylisis video on that chapter on the same vein of this one :D (also sorry if I said something that makes no sense, I'm not an english-speaker XD)
Seems like a lot of horror games have hints, or direct references to MK-Ultra. Outlast series, P.T. (theorized), Manhunt 2. Feel like I'm missing some, but anyway... the more people that learn of mk ultra the better.
I know it's fiction but holy sh*t Lucy is strong. Ripping off your own jaw is something a human should normally be unable to do in terms of raw strength alone.
@@Vivinski7 Because the jawbone is the toughest bone in the human body and is almost impossibly difficult to break off with your bare hands. Most people would not be able to tear off another human being's jaw, let alone their own, especially as a young child.
@@abhirupkundu2778 That's not a demon. It's LSD and adrenaline. You know there's a case a man cut his own penis but didn't scream or felt anything after taking a huge dose of LSD.
I always thought that it was the house itself that was the problem, like a suburban version of the Overlook Hotel. The house drives the people who live there to take their own lives because their deaths feed it in some way, and you are one of the house's victims that is now trapped there and finding out what happened to previous residents that the house killed too.
And here I thought I was insane for going off about MK Ultra to my buddies I convinced to buy the game. Fantastic video. Awesome channel. I really appreciate that you don’t scream at the viewer to subscribe and follow.
This could be, but also almost all horror games have no reflection in the mirror, idk why, but that's why making me doubt is the main protagonist is a ghost or not, but thankfully that question is already answered
I absolutely love this game because of the rich story, and in particular, how the gameplay beautiful supports that story. Everything that happens happens because it's important to the story. There are no cheap jump scares or gore shots just because it's a horror game, it's a horror game because the horror was what the game needed to do to tell the story it was trying to tell. It's one of my favorite games ever.
I think Louis's death was probably an accident, not out right murder. I've been to water treatment/sewage treatment plants before for work, and the older ones often have large concrete cylinders with nothing but a thin bridge spanning the length, and sometimes they're only halfway. It's highly possible that a confrontation broke out if Louis saw Dwayne spiking the water, and Louis either tripped or Dwayne pushed him and he fell into one of the vats. I think it makes it worse too, for Dwayne's guilt, because at least if you try to do something you have the justification behind what made you try in the first place to reason away some of the guilt, but an accident can't be reasoned with.
Dwayne was probably also one of the doctors who treated Rakan cuz the killing animation of Rakan is the same as that one cut scene in his chapter where he attacks a doctor
In Rakan's chapter everytime you wake up in the hospital the bed gets more and more covered in the black goo so I'm wondering what does that mean it gotta symbolize something right?
Why is there an indoor raven standing on a chair in the greed video tape? I think that guy in the TV with the plague doctor mask is a demon called Malphas, and no. That guy is not fictional. He's a real demon from demonology. Guess he's Dwayne's tormentor or at least has great interesst in Dwayne because his greatest sins happened in one house, and Malphas is involved heavily in houses and structures. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malphas
@@GamingHarryYT Thank you for replying to my comment, Harry. I greatly appreciate it. I think that raven represents Malphas himself as he usually appears as a raven when summoned. So signing that "You don't give an F" contract might have been Dwayne signing a contract with Malphas himself. It will only screw him over in the end. I also found a video on the demon Malphas, and if you watch it while thinking about plague masked guy in the TV, you find that the two erilly share similarities with each other. Here is an example, “There are also reports of him (Malphas) appearing so dark that the conjurers can only see his blue eyes.” Does that remind you of someone? Here's a link to the video, friend: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g9D_4c5j8P0.html
Oh, and I also found this article regarding him. Way more informative than the wikipedia article, don't you think? Hope it helps. blackwitchcoven.com/malphas-the-deceitful-demon/
I loved these videos... my friend bought this game, hyped it up for weeks, then shut it off after 5 minutes XD. I will never be playing this myself so I appreciate being able to watch it.
This is such a brilliant game from start to finish, I enjoyed watching your videos when you was playing this game, maybe they might bring out a second one later on, who's knows.. Anyway keep doing more horror games 👍🏻🎮 here is a suggestion horror game if you haven't played it already it's called Here We Lie
One of, if not the best horror games I’ve played in terms of overall fear while playing and storytelling. Leaves a lot up for interpretation but still gives you an idea as to what’s going on. Great video i feel like i definitely like your theory it makes a lot of sense
The Jumpscare kinda felt stale after the dolores chapter, but if this video interpretation is close to the story that the devs created, then this game is nonetheless clever and well structured!
In my opinion, the 'demon' Lucy becomes friends with is either a real demon or a figure of Lucy's imagination. It's most likely that if the demon is Lucy's imagination, then she had no friends, so made an imaginary one, and then it... went a bit wrong
This is awesome! Dude, can you go here Quail Ln, Roseburg, OR 97471 ? This is a real lane address. The game house with number 333, but I think that there is no such number there.
I was listening peacefully and then suddenly: "Lucy locked herself in the bathroom and ripped out her own jaw"... WHAAAAT?!? (I love your videos on Visage and Madison btw)
No idea what this game was about but it def freaked me out bigtime I almost had to stop playing multiple times now I have a understanding of the story I beat all chapters and got the mask
Ah, was hoping you'd clarify what Rose had to do with the story. When she said she would pay us a visit after she killed her husband, I thought she'd be Chapter 4's antagonist during the time the rest of the game was still in development.
I don't really think Rose had much to do with it really. I know she killed her husband, but i think that was because of the water supply. SadSquare made Visage such a complete game, and I think that if they wanted Rose to have a bigger part to play in the story, they would've included it, but instead they left it to the players own interpretation.
1) MK Ultra didnt end in the 60s even according to the CIA’s worst lies. It obviously is still alive today, though without LSD and with more torture. 2) it wasnt in response to the USSR’s program, in fact, no one else had such a program, and thats another lie to justify it
I think that the person in the couch with 7 knives is Dwayne and not Dolores husband because it’s the same room where he keeps drinking beers in the end of the game when doing the mix tapes and also in the mixtapes his wife tells him that she’s only with (him) Dwayne for the money and if he wants to die by drugs she can help him die with 7 knives
Why the happy elevator music towards the end? I like it better when you just explain or use quiet creepy music. Lol love your videos- I watch every one!
The only thing that I don't like is how the little girl died. A girl around 10 years old (based on her appearance) simply doesn't have the muscle strength to rip off her own jaw. 😅
Right. But thats quite common in games. I have no clue whats so difficult about telling a consistent and clear story with all major questions being answered.
Thanks! Haha the funny thing is, all the way through my playthrough, I was saying it as 'Vizidge', but it's actually 'Vizardge', as it's indeed French, and means face, or manifestation. So I guess the developers used it for both meanings
Visage doesnt mean manifestation, it just mean face, tho there is a sentence in french that say "tu montre ton vrai visage" that translate to "you show your real face" which mean what kind of person you truly are, your real personality. And the prononciation is more "vezige" "ge" like the visage of english.
(A bit long, let me shorten this…hope the message finds you well) A “story explained” on Visage…oh nice m8! I mean, it’s not like lore for the Dark Souls trilogy (as many pages as the Iliad or more-) But, this is a damn serious game & though puzzling, there’s an obvious clear story that “wants” to be told; this game is pure art- Haven’t really seen any other “big time” RU-vidrs touch on this; and what a hell of a game! Already appreciate, at the least, your work. Let me see… (Post edit: So…Project MK-Ultra… Damn compelling. WELL articulated. Makes sense. Appreciate touching base on some smaller things too such as the clocks. The water we see too, plus doesn’t Rose start to go off rails when she’s drinking water I believe? I’d only argue that his “wife” while wearing the mask, isn’t really what his wife is saying but rather what Dwayne feels/believes out of guilt Subscribing sir!👍)
