Now you can investigate Darfur and Yemen and tell us about the 50,000 people that died there this summer and the logistics of it? The burnt villages, the mass graves, the refugee camps and lines of people running away.
@@soccerguy325 it is nothing new, the phrase comes from ben gurion and his "purity in arms", they used this talking point through 1960-1980 to distinguish themselves from the "terrorists", and you will hear this phrase from every prime minister, spokesman and soldier. I don't think they are trolling, i am sure that they genuinely think that it is the case.
Hearing him yell out for Salma while digging through the rubble, and then crying out, “It’s dad,” after desperately saying that he was searching for his 4 children, is an image that will haunt me, among so many others. 💔🙏🏽😞
There were 694,000 Palestinians living in Palestine in 1918. 92% of population were Palestinians, and only 8% were settlers who came to Palestine during that time. Why Britain invaded Palestine in 1917. Why Britain brought in the settlers and aided with arms to force out the Palestinians, the indigenous inhabitants of the land. Why Britain violently repressed Palestinian uprisings in 1920, 1929, 1935, and 1936-1939 who protested Britain’s occupation and policies taking place onto their homeland. Why in 1948, UN declared Palestinian refugees have right to return back to their homes in cities such as Tiberias, Acre, Haifa, Jaffa, Led, Tulkarm, Askelon and others, inside the green line, what is now referred to as “Israel”. Until this day the Israeli army shoots at any civilian Palestinian who exercise their right to return to their homeland. In 2018, Palestinians organized “Marches of Return” south of the border near Gaza. Israeli army shot and killed 142+ and injured 16,000+ unarmed civilians. Did you know that Gaza hosts refugees that were originally from inside historic land of Palestine pre-1948. After Britain's invasion of Palestine in 1917 and under its supervision, it facilitated the arrival of the new comers. It aided, enabled and armed them to take Palestine by force in 1948. They committed genocide and expulsion of more than 750,000 Palestinians, its original inhabitants. An event known as the Catastrophe or Al Nakba. Who were those new comers? They were not in Palestine since 2000 plus years ago. They are not same inhabitants of ancient people of Palestine and the Levant. They spoke English, Polish, Yiddish, German, Hungarian, Serbian, Romanian, Ukrainian, Russian and other languages from Western, Eastern Europe and Baltic sea countries after Britain’s invasion of Palestine in 1917. Those new comers initially claimed to take refuge in Palestine as to not raise alarm of the Palestinians, local population. They were supposed to be abiding citizens of Palestine following the rules of the land, not to steal, commit genocide, take over the country, and expel its inhabitants. Americans are being misled about Palestinians and Palestine. Evangelicals and mainstream media seem to suggest that those new comers are the original inhabitants of the land and the Palestinians are the invaders. This is totally false narrative. It is designed to justify and continue the propagation of the genocide against the Palestinians people, and it must end. Jesus, peace be upon him, is innocent from what some the churches are preaching, and will not forgive them for providing religious cover for this genocide against the Palestinians. Don’t they believe in the God of Moses and the Ten commandments’ “Thou shalt not steal”? Enough bigotry, hate, and genocide propaganda and disinformation against Palestinians.
It's sad indeed, but - wrong time, wrong place. Just like hundreds of millions before him. The world is complicated and most of the necessary solutions are far from perfect.
Sane, intelligent people think about the future. You don't even know what needs to be done so the future will be different than the current situation. Israel cannot tolerate terror attacks anymore. They are doing what needs to be done so it won't happen again. You're just too dumb to understand it.
How do you unleash this destruction and genocide on a group of people and think they won’t start Hamas 2? What is even more insane is knowing the holocaust happened to your people and you somehow think its okay to do to others.
@@ljeans531 Islam teaches people to pay God by doing gooddeeds in order to satisfy God & be accepted by God. How can humans who are creatures pay God who is the Creator? Human can pay to a shopkeeper for products because the shopkeeper is also a human but God is not human. So is not islam wrong?
It is clear that Hamas' crime and genocide and terrorism by another criminal state are already being carried out. Reproduction of holocaust. This will be censored by Israel, though.
The most egregious crimes against humanity have been in our being committed by Muslims throughout the world. Muslims killed over 30 million Hindus simply because they didn’t want to convert to Islam. Islam is the problem and don’t you ever forget that
The devil is going to deceive y'all starting from this to go against Israel Isaiah 45:3 I will give you the treasures of darkness, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
Some of the hostages are at present in Egypt. Hamas moved some of the remaining hostages to Egypt through tunnels located in Rafah Border Crossing. Some of the hostages, who were released in the first prisoner swap (November 24- December 1st), had been forced to swallow different kind of drugs before being freed. Those drugs had been developed in Russia, Iran and North Korea during the Cold War (1947- 1991) in order to punish spies and POWs. The most benign of these drugs make hostages docile. The most evil of them alters severely the brain functions. A good example of this could be seen in the case of Otto Warmbier. Otto was falsely accused of a crime in North Korea. During his imprisonment, he was given drugs (by mouth and intravenously) which altered severely his brain functions. He was released in a terrible condition, and died a few days after his arrival to the United States. In case of a second prisoner swap, Hamas has the order to give the most evil drugs to some of the remaining hostages.
Does Mr. Biden know that there are thousands in the streets suffering from extreme cold, rain, hunger, and discomfort, and under constant bombardment, to die? The war of annihilation of this people must be stopped because it is humanity and respect for international law, and the trial of Netanyahu, the killer of innocents and children, and the massacres that continue under diplomatic and military support
They are not telling the truth, they are on the side of terrorists. Terrorist were not afraid to go where civilians lived, so that is what you get back. What's wrong with you people ? Why are you siding with terrorists, are you all crazy ? It's sad just how dumb you are really.
The problem is that, majority of the U.S does not want this. However there exists a very powerful Israeli Lobby within American Politics. None of Israeli's actions have been ethical. They never have been. Committing warcrimes after warcrimes. The reason America is so gungho for israel is because it was there since it's very inception. @@zoekenny3619
To say nothing of blocking food, water, medicine and aid to civilians, displacing 1.9 million out of a total population of 2.2 million, with 70 per cent of those killed being women and children.
@@Hay-wk5by Israel funds Hamas. Netanyahu: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas.”
@@caseclosed9342 Absolutely! That would've made Truman think twice before dropping nukes on Japan, killing over 100 thousand Japanese civilians; or Bush before invading Iraq and wasting the lives of thousands of US soldiers, let alone a million Iraqis, and wasting trillions of dollars that could've gone to healthcare, education, or infrastructure.
@@jawad.spam_You just don't target women and children and expect your enemies to give you a hug. I am surprised Israel didn't just nuke them after watching the videos of a German nàked woman who had mangled legs and bl00d pooling on her groin while men sat on her and children spat on her, and people dancing. Like she was some animal
They are not telling the truth, they are on the side of terrorists. Terrorist were not afraid to go where civilians lived, so that is what you get back. What's wrong with you people ? Why are you siding with terrorists, are you all crazy ? It's sad just how dumb you are really. This is not free press, this is your typical leftist brainwash, which you seem to love. It's just sad.
@@PatrickFoley-vf3lrall you do is remember 7th October. Do you know what the Palestine people were going through before 7th October? Please go and educate yourself on the matter before showing your ignorance to the world .
Using human shields is a warcrime. "Intentional targeting of civilians" is a warcrime. Which is in debate in this instance. Intentional targeting as a warcrime was invented after ww2 to prevent things like the London Blitz and Dresden Germany and hasn't been updated to include questions like "how much is too much", and using a bomb just big enough to do "that thing". Is it better to drop 3 small bombs or 1 big one? What does "better" even mean in this instance? Legally, where both may be true at the same time, Hamas would have to violate first and should bear the responsibility. Generally speaking to commit a warcrime to force your opponent into dilemma is what basic rules of warfare are supposed to prevent.
I love how New York Times reported this with unbiased commentary and with careful investigation that produced a good documentary. I hope those at fault be brought to justice for the sake of those who perished.
blame the psychedelic rave kids. I posted two questions on the specialized forums asking: "are there any verses of the Koran that teach love for your wife and children, family harmony, companionship..." 200 views, zero positive answers, nothing, not one verse. Chat GPT can find very many verses but none about family harmony. stoning and stick activity is fine. Harmony not. Conclusion. A 2 million strong death cult financed by Qatar and wealthy neighbors is badly advised to mutilate children in a rave-party hosted by a nuclear state with 500,000 soldiers and 150 nukes.
@@crispinfornoff206 Well when you look at the amount of deaths and the actual condition of Gaza which is mostly rubble… Do you have to be some sort of freakin expert ? Or just someone who actually uses their common sense?
@@soulfireonfire6423 You actually should do some basic research. Hamas is on video hiding behind civilians, in mosques and hospitals. Israel said its killed 7,000 terrorists out of 20,000 which is about average, especially considering Hamas does hide behind human shields like cowards. Plus it took Israel two weeks to correct their death toll from the Oct. 7th attacks. And you think Hamas has the capability of accurately recording death tolls? Your lack of critical thinking is noted.
Finally the NYT is doing journalism instead of ressonance of propaganda. This is the media outlet that I recognize as the best in the world. The other NYT is not .
if only neighboring arab nations would take in the refugees so they dont have to move 50 miles from a warzone. it's almost like it isnt rocket science.
why to take people from their land !!! are you ready to leave your house now !!!! stop telling lies and inhuman things. be human even for a minute !! disgusting@@Sacrifice117
If they didn't minimize, way more people in gaza would have died. The reason why so many died is because hamas is draging their civilians into the war zone by making hospitals, schools and peoples homes into military bases and hideouts. Which is a war crime because its irresponsible to let civilians into military areas.
Old news, NYT. This has always been the modus operandi of "the most moral army on Earth" (TM). In 2006, Human Rights Watch reported the following on Israel's war on Lebanon: "Israel has justified its attacks on roads by citing the need to clear the transport routes of Hezbollah fighters moving arms. Again, none of the evidence gathered by Human Rights Watch, independent media sources, or Israeli official statements indicate that any of the attacks on vehicles documented in this report resulted in Hezbollah casualties or the destruction of weapons.Rather, the attacks killed and wounded civilians who were fleeing their homes, as the IDF had advised them to do." So now in 2023 the NYT wakes up and smells the coffee. What do you want? A medal?
so hypocritical to say that Hamas uses densely populated areas knowing the Israeli occupation pushed a large population into a narrow strip of land under blockade. there's only densely populated areas in Gaza.
@@ribtips305because they dont have nowhere else to resist, sp what do they do let Israel hogtie them all and treat them like animals like they are doing in west bank you people are the definition of hypocrisy.
@@ammartaibi2623They were agreeing with you. Just like the rest of us who liked your OG comment. This is a genocide and my country(the US) is backing this 1000%. This has been a genocide since before Israel even became a country! They decided they wanted to take Palestine’s land and all the “winners” of WW2 just agreed because of what the European Jewish population just went through. Even though Jews weren’t the only ones that were unalived by the mustache man and his evil ideologies.
It takes time to get the satellite images, geolocate the footage, get the information together, analize, make sure that there are no mistakes, this is a work from a serious team.
@@Teddy_Graham Satellite images in active conflict zones are usually restricted, and only allowed to be distributed after some time, you will only find pro-analysis of what is happening now the next month, or later.
There were 694,000 Palestinians living in Palestine in 1918. 92% of population were Palestinians, and only 8% were settlers who came to Palestine during that time. Why Britain invaded Palestine in 1917. Why Britain brought in the settlers and aided with arms to force out the Palestinians, the indigenous inhabitants of the land. Why Britain violently repressed Palestinian uprisings in 1920, 1929, 1935, and 1936-1939 who protested Britain’s occupation and policies taking place onto their homeland. Why in 1948, UN declared Palestinian refugees have right to return back to their homes in cities such as Tiberias, Acre, Haifa, Jaffa, Led, Tulkarm, Askelon and others, inside the green line. After Britain's invasion of Palestine in 1917 and under its supervision, it facilitated the arrival of the new comers. It aided, enabled and armed them to take Palestine by force in 1948. They committed genocide and expulsion of more than 750,000 Palestinians, its original inhabitants. An event known as the Catastrophe or Al Nakba. Who were those new comers? They were not in Palestine since 2000 plus years ago. They are not same inhabitants of ancient people of Palestine and the Levant. They spoke English, Polish, Yiddish, German, Hungarian, Serbian, Romanian, Ukrainian, Russian and other languages from Western, Eastern Europe and Baltic sea countries after Britain’s invasion of Palestine in 1917. Those new comers initially claimed to take refuge in Palestine as to not raise alarm of the Palestinians, local population. They were supposed to be abiding citizens of Palestine following the rules of the land, not to steal, commit genocide, take over the country, and expel its inhabitants. Americans are being misled about Palestinians and Palestine. Evangelicals and mainstream media seem to suggest that those new comers are the original inhabitants of the land and the Palestinians are the invaders. This is totally false narrative. It is designed to justify and continue the propagation of the genocide against the Palestinians people, and it must end. Jesus, peace be upon him, is innocent from what some the churches are preaching, and will not forgive them for providing religious cover for this genocide against the Palestinians. Don’t they believe in the God of Moses and the Ten commandments’ “Thou shalt not steal”? Enough bigotry, hate, and genocide propaganda and disinformation against Palestinians.
So it means what? That they are untouchable? That they can commit atrocities and just "Get away with it" , because it's uncomfortable to attack them? In what world does it make sense??
@@kobman4159what are you on about, Israeli has been causing atrocities for decades now in Gaza, arresting civilians for no reason, using them as human shields, bombing their schools. This all happened BEFORE 7th October, but where were you when they are in suffering? Why just now you cared about them? Have you seen what Israeli has been doing to the Palestinians since your childhood times? Becauss I do.
@@kobman4159 Getting away with what? 20000 and rising death toll. The only ones getting away with actual murder are Israelis. Shameful conduct and even more shameful justifications.
@@n.m.4300 Don't switch topics. Whataboutism is not an argument. Answer my original question - Is Hamas untouchable, because they are hiding in civilian population? And in what world do you think you have the right to commit Oct 7 massacre, because you're "offended"??! That's a r@pist argument. Sabra and Shatila happened AFTER 1948. But since you mentioned it, how about you at least read up about SABRA and Shatila and WHO committed the massacre there, before name dropping unrelated arguments.
@@kobman4159 As an admirer of the late Leon Trotsky, I fail to see why you mention Stalin. But then, I suspect you think Stalin was a socialist rather than a blood-soaked dictator who slaughtered Bolsheviks and anyone else he regarded as remotely lefty.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx I was born in the USSR, so I'm pretty sure that my take on this might be slightly more refined than a random Western selective admiration of Trotsky. Stalin was the final "evolution" of the so called "Socialism" in Russia. It may have started with good intentions really, and it was all about "equality", "equity" and all the other well meaning and unachievable high ideals, followed by systemic elimination of everyone who questioned those high ideals, followed by paranoid elimination of everyone who was reported as allegedly having ideas, that questioned the regime and so on and so forth. Because as long as there is a hierarchy, "Some animals will always be more equal than others". Orwell said it better, but you get my point :) The nowadays West is toying with an idea that failed miserably in the past, regardless of the endless funds invested in it by the Soviets back in the day and endless lives lost in the name of it and as a result of it. Not sure if they do it due to lack of understanding, sheer hubris or both. To me, Socialism is like a nuclear suitcase and the Progressive West is like a baby, toying with it, pressing all the buttons and having wild tantrums, every time somebody tries to take that shiny new "toy" away from them, but not willing to take any responsibility, if god forbid they ever press the wrong button..
@@kobman4159 It could be that your personal experience of the Stalinist regime in the dying years of the Soviet Union colours your view of Marx and socialism. It is strange that you think the "nowadays West" is considering socialism, when our governments have never been more right wing and committed to viciously capitalist ideology. If you look around you, what do you see? Success of capitalism with united societies, workers paid well and in control of their lives, governments responding to their people? Obviously not. Socialism is not what was even tried in the USSR after the mid-1920s when Josef Stalin seized control. It is about liberating the working class to have power and control over our working lives, our commerce, our institutions, everything that we are. Capitalism is the antithesis: it forces us to work for a wage, to bow the knee to our employers in undemocratic workplaces where the vast wealth we create is stolen to enrich a few. If you refuse to believe that can be changed, then stay as you are. Did the end of the Soviet Union and its replacement with a red-in-tooth-and-claw free market capitalism result in any improvement in the lives of the Russian working class - as the Western economists claimed it would? Living standards plummeted, crime ran rampant and a privileged few enriched themselves on the remnants of the Russian state. The oligarchs and right-wing political parties that dominate the West have nothing to offer the working class but repression, austerity, dangerously growing militarism and endless work for little reward. There is a better way, as millions of people know. www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/04/05/zuwp-a05.html
Yes it's missing something... 10 articles are printed for every Gaza fatality and 0.01 for every Darfur fatality, It's time to do some satellite investigations of Yemen and Darfur too, nobody seems to care if the NYT doesn't.
@@elliottdavies3528 Project Paperclip tells me that you missed some parts of history... Canadian parliament giving a standing ovation to a nazi was also interesting... Should I go on...
How does Israel, a victim of holocaust justify them doing the same to another group? Also a question to Americans on why you don’t question your govt who are using your tax money to fund Israel? What is wrong with everyone? If shamelessness has a face its got to be the American government.
They had to gather the evidence. Confirm it put together the video footage edit the video footage like stop being so conspiratorial good reporting takes time stop getting your news off of TikTok.
The devil is going to deceive y'all starting from this to go against Israel Isaiah 45:3 I will give you the treasures of darkness, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
I would feel terrorized by Israel... But saying anything else than "Hamas is terrorists" is considered antisemitism so we all better not tell the truth.
You can say Hamas is terrorists and Israel is much worse terrorists. You can also say the threat of Hamas terrorism was the only thing that protected Gaza from Israel for the last 15 years. And if you don't believe that's true, look at the West Bank.
@@peraltaisrael2598 Everyone pretty much knows where it is, while im betting a lot of the yokels who are gun-ho for Israel because they think it will bring back Jesus as being less likely to be able to point it out. But even if he could not for some weird reason point it out, lack of geographical knowledge doesn't make slaughtering of civilians ok. Of all the ethnic cleansing apologetics iv heard to defend Israel "i bet you cant point to it on the map" is the most ridicules one.
Me too, most hated country in the world. It makes me wonder if "antisemitism" and "pogroms" were actually provoked by them in the first place. I just found out that all kings of France expelled them, for a total of 40 times in 800 years. One king of France, Charles VI, said that he had no choice but to expel them all given the excessive barbarism of their crimes against local populations. If they treated french people like they treat palestinians, it must have driven everybody nuts.
"Freeing" Palestine would not stop Hamas' attacks anyway, and Palestine would have a military junta regime under Hamas. But honestly at this point, Israel should really start considering a withdraw from Gaza.
When they selebrated 7/10 they knew this was coming. Hamas wants the blood for PR and Egypt know the trubbel the Gazans cause and they want nothing to do with them. Blam Hamas and ther backers for the war and Egypt for closing the border
@bhimsenluchooman4046 I'm AMERICAN. In the USA from New York. This is the NY times. We don't all agree with Israel here. We have our own minds to think freely
@bhimsenluchooman4046 this youtube vid is from my state. NY times. I saw the protests in Israel. Any logical rational thinking Israel protested against Netanyahu. He is equivalent to the far right wing. If they are not Israel and do not follow the same religion, he thinks they have no rights.
@@wgcds7jyg897 Was it Hamas that killed 20,000 civilians, including 8,000 children, committed hundreds of massacres, used phosphorus bombs and bombs weighing more than a ton, and carried out executions of civilians in Gaza and the West Bank?
@@mortimersnerd8044 There are plenty of journalists in Gaza. They're just not white. Over 80 have been targeted and killed so far. Nothing in this video is unknown or new if you haven't been paying attention to only western news.
Here in the west we have told ourselves that war is basically like desert storm, precision airstrikes, few boots on ground lost, few civilians killed. In reality war an actual war is not that, it looks like what we are seeing, food people die, civilians die. Now with that said i think its clear there is much more could be done to spare civilians in Gaza, and its something Israel will have to atone for postwar whatever yhat make look like. War is ugly, nasty, bloody and ruthless
My family got killed exactly 20 hours after we fled to the south I lost everything in one blast, my father, mother, 2 sisters and my little brother. Alongside with another 35 member of my sister in law family.
Muslims not wanting the Jews in the region to have a say about politict after WW1: thats the cause's of all of this. Muslims in Israel live better lives than most muslims in muslim majority country.
The devil is going to deceive y'all starting from this to go against Israel Isaiah 45:3 I will give you the treasures of darkness, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
The fact that this type of unbiased, fact-based, non-dogmatic journalism/reporting is available for free on the internet literally gives me a tiny bit of hope in these dark times. Thank you NYT, the work you are doing here is astonishing.
The devil is going to deceive y'all starting from this to go against Israel Isaiah 45:3 I will give you the treasures of darkness, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
Legitimate question: Does anyone know if the "civilians" are Hamas supporters? It seems odd to me that these "civilians" would choose to live among / within a terrorist-controlled area. Not making a statement, truly asking in case anyone knows.
@@GreedRuinsEverything - That was a question I was going to ask, but it only applies after about 7 other questions are answered. Please proceed answering question #1 (see above).
Hmmm. Where can they go? Do they have options? You make it seem they they choose to be in Gaza. Do you not know that they are stuck there? Now you are legitimately confusing me.
I agree that many already knew this was happening, but there are many people who won't believe any reports of Isreal's criminal behavior towards Palestine unless it comes from a "reliable news source," which for many people means a US news source. So many people in Gaza have continued to share firsthand accounts of this chaos, but at least in the US, where many people continue to believe the propaganda that Palestinians are all senseless terrorists and Isreal can do no wrong, it is a big deal for evidence like this to be collected and shared by such a respected news outlet. With any luck, formal reports such as this will lead to increased public pressure on the US government to condemn the assault on Gaza, rather than perpetrate it. I hope the NYT continues to report on the truth of Isreal's culpability.
For those complaining what it took so long for these reports to show up, you just have to understand collecting evidence and confirming facts on the ground will take longer that spouting and shouting accusations in social media.
