Vocal Coach Reacts to Jinjer - Pisces (Live Session) 

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It is not just raw talent. She has spoken about how she learned to growl. Her inspiration came from a band called Otep. She said her first growls were at passing cars or in a pillow and how she hated that her growl sounded too female. It took her years to learn how to do that.

She practise for 15 years to both sing and growl like this....it's not the same being in a band just growling or just singing but doing both like she does takes aloot of practise and of course talent

I'll just leave it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-79ojlwMzs0Q.html

Girl I was in the tub and the second she started growling I got out and prayed! Lol that was scary!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🫣

You are not getting enough credit for this comment, keeping that quote.

@@wydellarmstrong9964 it's one of my favorites :) happy you like it.

Who's quote is this? It's a great one!

@@MikaTarkela Cesar A. Cruz

Being that this song comforted me speaks of my psyche.

I think 90% of the people watching reacts to Pisces can totally relate.

I love sharing it with people that haven't ever heard of them.

Yep

Yup

Me too. I'm onto the.... 10th? person at least

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Thanks

Lilith is more like it

Stew Thomas Maybe that's where the "jinjer" comes from? (Lilith was ginger)

Booya!

I choked on my coffee when I heard her I was so startled lol

It's almost an internet ritual to recommend this to vocal coaches on youtube at this point.

@@Gearbhall LOL. The Wise Requesters nod solemly in Unison. "Tara Hath Come to the Thrice Score and Seventh Reaction. It is agreed, she is ready. She must now go forth and Face her next Trial. RELEASE THE TATIANA!!!!"

First you prep them up by making them react to Disturbed - The Sound of Silence, and then you bitchslap them with Jinjer - Pisces. Well done boys!

Absolutely 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

Now it's time for Nightwish, then maybe some Dio, Maiden or Judas Priest

She doesn't youtube enough

Death is such a flirt

I was going to upvote, but the count is at 666 which is pretty fitting tbh

yepp

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lmao yes!

Lol Katy Perry

Ryder Soul 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lol

Yep

Yep

And it never dissapoints xD

It's like when you first show someone Opeth

It sometimes happens, but it doesn't matter. Nobody expects Tati's growls. Check out Cosmic Eye's reaction to this.

yeah man like for someone who's a vocal coach I thought they would know how to truly appreciate all aspects of the human voice

thank you! its just ignorance on their part.

To appreciate the growl it takes time and listening ... it is a taste that is refined, it is not an immediate thing. It also requires a certain amount of empathy and depth of mind.

It's rough too, because she's got a growl with tons of depth and range. She reminds me a lot of Mikael Akerfeldt in a really good way.

@@browncoat697 Yeah, I hear a very Akerfeldtian depth too

That’s what I’m saying!

@@Tarasimonstudios I highly encourage you to revisit Jinjer. Check out "Teacher Teacher" or "Who Is Gonna Be The One" (Live) in particular. Look deeper into the meaning of the songs that they are playing, and how they inform the performance. Pisces is all about the characteristics of the astrological sign, one of the biggest pieces being duality, so the clear switching back and forth is HIGHLY informed by the content of the lyrics. I love the fact that you did this in the first place, but just tapping the tip of the iceberg when it comes to rock and metal singing, especially with female vocalists, is in my humble opinion, doing a disservice to a large percentage of the vocal music that is out there. I was browsing through your reaction video playlist and I noticed a theme revolving mostly around a lot of melodic and more traditionally clean sounding singers. Nothing wrong with that, at all, but I think that your followers could benefit from some additional vocal styles. Some suggestions on the female vocalist side Lzzy Hale of Halestorm Taylor Momson of The Pretty Reckless Joan Jett Lita Ford These are, as I said, just the tip of the iceberg. Also, Ronnie James Dio Corey Taylor Miles Kennedy The HU Have a great day.

@@Tarasimonstudios I encourage you to check out I Speak Astronomy by Jinjer as well

@@Tarasimonstudios Yep,most of us here understand perfectly what you said but some people are practising hard to be offended by opinions that differ from their own.

Agreed

Thank you, the two emotional natures of the fish in the water, up in the surface and down in the depths. It's very esoteric and wonderfully executed.

tbh its not fry, its like a in between of walrus and mid mixed with growl at some point

Jenna White jeez finally someone else picked up on that as well

Bewilderment of Eden To digress, the style of vocalization is irrelevant towards expressing the duality of the song and its lyrics. I used the term “fry” because, to those without vocal training, it is the term they will most likely recognize.

torcher78 lul. I am surprised at how many people didn’t, to be honest.

Kinda makes you wanna push your fingers into your eyes, amirite?

Alex Smith i don’t get it

@@wesleymiller4159 duality is a famous song by slipknot. Check the lyrics )

Well said

Why most metal-heads also love classical

I heard the Stanley Parable narrator.

paintedblack09 I hear Morgan Freeman

All I hear is Ron Howard.

Lepszy Niż Wczoraj same

arrested development

I can appreciate your opinion but for me she's one of the best.

Lauren Heart

@@stevenwilliams1805 Oh! I don't know that one. Thanks for the reply.

@@stevenwilliams1805 Oh yes I do. Once Human. Yes she's really good.

@@dougarnold7955 Lauren is one of the many loves of this fractured Heart.

she most certainly should! LOL

@@zap8oneway Jinjer reacts to people reacting to Jinjer

@@dakotamcree9310 Jinjer-ception! That would be great to watch

This song was prolly meant as the biggest troll job on the net! Lol I'm sure they watch all the reacts lol

@@parzivalplays7403 It was originally meant to showcase the new (at the time) drummer. But Tatianna had kinda overshadowed that a little bit.

And in that vein, we need to use our collective RU-vid power to get Tatiana/Dimash together in a disney/metal sing along and watch Tara (and our) head's explode.

It's never been difficult for me. One day during practice with one of the bands I was in over a decade ago it just came out. All the pent up hurt, aggression, past traumas made it's way to the surface. I never taught myself or learned how to do it from someone else. That may be rare, idk ... With this band it looks to me as there is no struggle for her either.

That's right. I always wonder, who decided to ascribe that scream to evil? Same how they ascribed blackness to negativity, evil and darkness. I find a beauty in that.

Correct 😁👍

They're going to be at the top of the Metal food chain and it's not going to be very long. They'll be there for a long time too

For some people that is the most apt description for the sound.

Jinjer live is amazing

I said the SAME exact thing

for me personally , lower doesn't equal better, probably why I never got into death metal too much, HOWEVER "wills dissolve-the heavens are not on fire" has really gotten me into it , possibly because they have a bit of variety instead of that constant low growl

She doesn't take her growls really low in Pisces. 4 minutes into Who Is Gonna Be The One is a whole other kind of growling ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U6rv5qi8-8s.html

In which song does she reach lower notes without growl/fry?

@@YisneySoto That's a good question, because it is definitely a different kind of "low." I haven't really paid attention to that, I suspect Bad Water live in Paris would be the lowest she's done clean, at least in a video with very good sound. I'll keep an eye out though and drop an update if I find anything exceptional.

Or The Red Wedding!

once were warriors when they learn it's not a romcom.

I thought that was so rude of her. Shes still beautiful her voice is amazing.

@@haileykelley4269 Rude?You really are practising being offended by opinions that differ from yours.

@Roby Dee Didn't you know that if you have a different opinion than other people you're being offensive and shouldn't make people cry. LOL I really hope the sarcasm came through texted.

its not really my style, but i cant help be seriously impressed at the talent to swing her range that far

All of it is beautiful. I love Jinjer. This is a really good band with a lot of good songs. For me as a Metalhead and identify with this band I wasn't offended by Tara's reaction but rather found it funny. Tara's reaction is totally candid and being a vocal specialist with no background in this style she was grasping for something to say. I love this reaction honestly...😊✌

Right. 6:33...this is so disturbing to me! 😁 I love this Pisces reaction. Its one of my favs. It just knocked her over!

Watching a metalhead who think Angela Gusow can not be bested (like me) must be equality hilarious

@@simonz5905 Right. There's a lot of really good female screamers! I like Angela, she's great! 👍

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Well I have a really hard time understanding why Death metal apparently sounds soothing. I guess it's just personal preference. We just all have different opinions.

Liebach it’s basically like any aggression or frustration gets taken out when I listen to it, so it leaves me feeling happier if that makes sense

@@chocolatepudding1241 I totally get that, and I guess I worded it incorrectly. But I could never see myself in a position to sit back and enjoy it like I enjoy a capella arrangements like voctave. What do you listen to if you're happy and content?

Liebach I listen to it when I’m happy too lol. I also listen to classical, rock, indie, and a little pop

Or Cattle Decapitation LOL

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She is right. Ya are a disgusting one

My mom 😂

@@SGTSnakeUSMC So ur dating ur own mum? Ur sick dude....

What did you find farting grandmother for?

A bit sexist for me but okay

@@hanahmichele6566 The, "Now she's a girl again" annoyed me a bit.

Pumpkin V Get over it...

@@TheNerdess I think "Now she's a girl again is referring to the fact you very rarely see a woman sing like this. She goes from soft singing to growling. Her remarks basically say anyone who is bigger or butch is unattractive. Her opinion tho.

Pumpkin V agreed but it annoyed me a lot. So judgmental and sexist. She’s very narrow-minded

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Yes, not nearly as scary. The only thing intimidating about our sweet Valkyrie Queen is she's a raven haired 6 foot tall Danish Woman who sings with a metal version of the cast of the Hobbit ;-)

@@rhettkennedy3507 Floor is Dutch. Not Danish.

The dutch are the only people regularly breeding girls over 2m tall ^^

@@ioanniskostoulas4448 Humblest apologies. I have a condition that mixes up any nationality that starts with a "D". ;-)

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer I think it's really a matter of taste. Tarja is like a finely honed sword. Floor is like a Swiss Army Knife. Tarja has the goods on Floor for what she does (Opera), but Floor can sing Opera pretty darn well (even though she said it's not something she studied as much in depth) and she can do rock and metal equally well.

Alex Hanks What should we call her? I’m honestly asking, no disparaging. She’s SO talented I’m blown away!

Lynn P by her name, Tatiana

Pigiesrool Thank you. I had a hard time finding her name on Google for some reason.

@@lynnp4289 I found the band member listing by googling "jinjer" and clicking on the Wikipedia link. In 5 seconds.

@@monksuu Good for you. Thank you for sharing. When I first found them it was NOT here, it was on another platform. It was titled "Tatiana", so I thought that was the bands name, as there was no other reference to follow. Pigiesrool was kind enough to help me figure out the obvious. What do you care? Are you offended? Wow. If this offends you then you may want to consider staying off of the web. Just a thought. ❄️

Tucker Drums Right?? I was about to comment about this.

However, when she was about to feel it, the scream already reached her in supernatural speed.

Everyone has a preference. Neither are right or wrong. Just a preference.

They're very powerful, and she is female, that doesn't mean that that noise is "feminine". I get you're trying to be all 2020 and equality e.t.c. just because one female can do something equal to or better than a man, doesn't mean that thing becomes feminine.

@@BigDan1190 Doesn't mean it's not either just because you're having a hissy fit over it being called feminine.

That makes literally no sense from a scientific point of view. Testosterone causes vocal cords to lengthen and thicken. This is why men have a deeper voice. Deep screaming growls are masculine because they usually come from men as a byproduct of this phenomena. I get a lot of people nowadays prefer feelings over facts and want women to be whatever the want, something about diversity and equality. But it is not feminine. It is extreme talent though.

@@rye-bread5236 Your comment was also based purely on opinion, not scientific fact. Congrats.

Now that would be EPIC!

Inception lol

I react the way she does when i am forced to listen to a Top 40 song. I seriously would rather be deaf if i had only pop music.

@@ChuckBeefOG But honey... where are my paaaaaaaants?! *laugh track* Come on, man. You know that everything is awesome...

@@ChuckBeefOG geezuz... top 40... i smashed that radio at work because of all that repetitive junk they feed society. Pulled the car to the front door, jammed a Slayer CD in the disc changer and fullblasted that thing until it was time to fo home. At that point in time, Jinjer hadn't formed yet.

@@ChuckBeefOG Right.

Yeah its disturbing when you are not a metalhead

Pretty much

It also helps to use mic volume for the primary power, while screaming in a voice that could barely be heard in tje back of the room if sung acapella with no mic. You can get better range like that as well.

The scratchy/tickly feeling is normal, though. All your tissues vibrating to produce the static of the distortion does generate some friction. False chord screaming is indeed with open vocal folds, though. In fry screaming they're completely closed unless you can whistle fry.

Not true, vocal frys use the vestibular folds in a closed formation

Screaming fucks up your voice rofl we weren’t made to make those noises for long periods of time.

I advise for anyone wanting to learn how to scream to research mellisa cross first and foremost.

@@jakebroussard8633 heard a lot of good stuff about her.

She is amazing! Watching her helped me learn years and years ago without hurting myself. 15 years later and still at it

@@jakebroussard8633 that's dope. Lol. I am currently 15 years old xD

@@CellarStudioProductions keep at it bro! Just be careful and dont hurt yourself

That is exactly right I learnt to do false chord singing by accident now i use it in some songs

Google translate, don't fail me now..

I'm not an expert but have experience as a vocalist/instrumentalist and she appears to be relying on fry screaming across the board for the lows/mids/high. Sometimes screamers will switch between false chords and fry's but false chords take a ton of breath (generally growls and grunts) and therefore usually done when they have time to breathe after. The reason she can switch so effortlessly between the brutal screams and her more feminine singing voice comes down to talent, practice, and science. The vocal folds are pretty much completely compressed together with air escaping/coming through during her screams and therefore not as detrimental to her throat as it seems because of this, the switch to clean is relatively easy (with practice). Certainly not everyones genre of choice, but I feel like bands as a whole are a dying breed and reaction videos from Tara and others who would never listen to any of the "hardcore" genres bring these bands into the limelight. Tara, your reactions were awesome! Dimash SOS and this have to be tied for my favorite reactions!

@Bradley Schroeder You NEED an high amplitude of air for the technique to work.

I know what your trying to say but thats not the case here. It says live session but its also been enhanced because the vocals have been multi-tracked both clean and growl sections. You can hear when you listen close...

Yea man she peed a lil I think

Gon learn today

I agree! Tara did a great critique of the talent - she did not critique the genre.

Right. ...and that's what was so fun about this reaction too...👍

Floor actually attended Rock academy and she had just one year of operatic training, compared to Tarja who trained it for years. That's why Floor is much more versatile.

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Thanks for clarifying!

You're welcome 😁

You're also welcome.

The guitars electric throughout the whole song my guy :/

@@GlockGrippa what he means is when the guitar switches to distortion ...thats the warning, and he is correct

Sarge0341 Yeah I know, but what I meant was the clean sound still technically comes from an electric guitar and it’s electric counterparts...

Ditto!

I'm in the same boat. I once got thrown out of a class back in school because the teacher told me to sing after him and while I did my best he thought that I was making fun of him... I still love watching these explanations nonetheless.

I learned how to growl because of her explanations

VoKill is the best imo

Thanks!!

Really? Not to take away from her talent, but she is not the only female vocalist that can do that. I recommend you check out Angela Gossow.

That's the "cleanest" switch I've heard from anyone, on a dime!!

@@sanaaezzeddine6774 she isn't the only one, but her cleans and growls are on point. Reminds me alot of Mikael in Opeth (older) when he could switch both easily.

@@gasl456 Oh how I miss those days when he did. The first song I ever heard of them was Demon of the Fall. When he went full growl, I swear it was love

@@gasl456 came here to recommend Åkerfeldt as well. His clean is incredibly clean and his older growls were like the Devil himself

No little girl......Angela is the ONLY one that would even compare to Tatiana

Yes! Morgan lander is my favorite and ppl have seem to forgot about her