Vocal coach reacts to RIVERDALE musical episodes - HEATHERS 

I know, and God, WHYYYY

Person:*blinks* Producers: lemme just

or hWHIP

@@hannahreeve4507 Oh jesus christ i can hear that

no one: riverdale with footsteps: STOMP

BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

LMAO

she goes from smiling to confusion 😭

LMAO shidsgjidf

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHA WTF

HAHAHAHA ik. she BEGGED those producers not to make him sing

Actually the lyrics are appropiate considering that is supposed to be a hogh school musical

Emilia Troncoso So then why not make the choreography also be appropriate for high school? 😂

InfinityDrawings What are you talking about? It is PERFECTLY choreographed for high school! All the High schoolers now days dance like this!! (In case it’s not that obvious, this is me being sarcastic)

*so you can have a music l threesome but you can't say the word balls*

Goodnight- Moon If you wrote it in italic like _this_ I would of got it earlier that it was supposed to be sarcastic lol.

I don’t even watch Riverdale and I can say with 100% surety that this is true

CalvinIsATrashCan - sounds kinda lame ngl

Kujikawa the Meek mage - and you would be correct

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

*cough* basically there’s a cult :)

LITERALLY

LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

WHIP NOISES

REAL ITS SO WEIRD

they’re 25

@@kellysmith4812 not the cast

@@kellysmith4812 they are 25 but the character is not which make it still wrong

You have to no what's going on to no why they are doing it

Its because they kinda broke up

The way her smile slowly turned down

Yes!

It sounded like it could’ve been something, and then the awkward bowling music comes on...

tbh it sounds like me singing it in my room at 3am trying not to wake up my parents and thats NOT a compliment

bro riverdale's candy store killed me

ikr....he was so proud for not singing in Disney, but at end, CW broke him...lol

I literally love his voice In very aspect....

@@islagreasley6623 it was it was probably layered with his voice or something but it was him😌🖐💯

@@teoniiyoungblood6881 it actually wasnt him in the chorus lol

@@PinesBaseDelta how you know tho 😇

URJEJENENE I LOVE THIS

its the kidzbop version of the original songs

That’s my color! Waaah I’m the best waaah me me me me

@@rowanw1312 "omg you can't be wearing red!! It doesn't matter that my fwend here has a red skirt, y are u red :(((("

OOOH LICK IT UP, HONEY, LICK-IT-UP

fellow six fan over here 👀

Taylor sksksk same 👑

you got that right 😔

I love six too 💜

WE'RE ONE OF A KIND NO CATEGORY (Fellow Six fan, so glad y'all exist)

No they were never together when they did candy store and dead girl that’s when the kids from south side school came to riverdale and your right about the song seventeen that’s when they became a couple

@@Jibrilll-ll no she’s right they were already together and broke up. They started showing feeling for eachother in the scene where Toni calls Cheryl Sensational. They actually get together when she saves her from the Sisters of Quiet Mercy though.

That is a perfect explanation!

That’s right

@@Jibrilll-ll bro u really had no idea what u were talking about huh🤨 the southside kids came in season 2, this is season 3. cheryl and toni were together but broke up before this episode, sang candy store and DGW and then sorted it out in the scene before seventeen. pls don’t try and correct people on stuff u don’t know about lmao

Nah this was very accurate to my teen years lmao

@@aarishowton8037 honestly yeah tbh lmao, I get that riverdale is super unrealistic in almost everything but let's not act like so many of us weren't out here partying, drinking, smoking/drugs, and so many sexual things lol. Still, riverdale gives a really bad image to a lot of things and doesn't handle certain issues well. Overall the show is annoying as hell imo.

@@jay_binger well it seems we have very different high school experiences

@@angelicmercenary yep lol:) I'm not saying every single day or even every single week me and my friends were out partying, doing some kind of drug, or just constantly having sex. That's an over exaggeration of my high school experience lol, but it did happen. And kind of often sometimes. That's just me, but I really did know a lot of people personally that did party every weekend, smoke weed every day, have a lot of sex or are always with their boyfriend or girlfriend, etc. I did also know a lot of people that did none of that and were completely focused on school. It's a spectrum. I'd say 40% were indeed experimenting and having fun, the other 40% was as well but were more innocent, then the remaining 20% did whatever they do lol.

@@jay_binger as someone who is in high school right now- literally everyone is too tired to do anything. It could be because I’m in a private school but nobody’s doing drugs or partying or anything :P

Same! A lot people are saying that they can sing and I believe it. I just think that the autotune is so bad. Some people are also saying that they need to be trained more or better??? Idk I'm not a musician so I don't really know. I don't think its the actors fault at all

Even worse, SOME OF THEM USED TO BE IN MUSICAL THEATER! I don't get why the producers needed to completely edit their voices. I don't think the musical episodes would be so cringey if we got a lot less autotune.

@@zoeykimmet2575 I had no clue! That definitely makes it harder to forgive the producers. They have decent actors and decent singers overly autotine their voices and give them ridiculous lines and plots to work with. I never read the Archie comics but the things people say make me sad about the show. The comics sound amazing and the show is just bad. It had so much potential.

Right?! I feel so bad for them because they can sing really well

@@-mushroom-9326 Overall they just did Casey Cott dirty. He's a good actor but the character they gave him is SO bad. Kevin just seems to be a token gay character despite that there are other gay characters

Oh shut up

@@marianne8568 riverdale just sucks in general :3

@Anisa Jalloh I'm not gonna fight with y'all. Your opinion .

@@marianne8568 So don't say shut up to area 51? 🤨

They also took out all the 3 person harmonies! It just sounded so flat.

@@kiapet286 Yeah! And the ones they left in were low note and just sounded bad

It was just kinda sad that they gutted the whole song basically

BrassWhale they lowered the harmonies.You can hear it a little bit in the official recording.

Kiapet 2 it sounds so boring, like they somehow sucked out all the emotion in their voices

Alt wording; can we have heathers slime

Illegal Heathers is better than this

THIS IS MAKIN ME CACKLEEEEEEE

It was to rhyme with football team, they changed that lyric because they didn't want to sing about rum and coke.

It's actually because they did it bassed on the highschool version, so all the lyrics are mostly the same as the ones highschool productions use( I say mostly because of lyric changes that follow the shows plot) but I do think they would have had alot more success (they need it) if they had bassed it off the Broadway version

Same with loser to doorknob that didn’t make much sense to me

NOO WAY!! You like "They Both Die At The End" oh my gosh!! The book was amazing!! :) I knew by the profile picture lol!!

@@someonefamous9672 Actually, they switched out "pussy" with doorknob.

It’s not that the singing was bad, it’s just soo auto tuned that it’s sorta cringy 😳

Yeah...

The singing wasn't really bad, it's just that it's WAY too autotuned even though they CAN sing really great and the choreography was just...disgusting

@@elle-anakin exactly, I think I said something similar to another comment

YES

It reminds me of johnny test

It makes Riverdale though 😂

my name is reginald george THIS IS SO UNDERRATED OML LMAO

@@reverland735 JDBDHDBD THANKS

I HAVE BEEN LAUGHING AT THIS FOR 10 MINUTES STRAIGHT

PFFFFFFTTTT

I mean, that line was clearly collateral from changing what it rhymed with. Pound some rum and coke was never going to fly, and I guess the rest of the sentence didn't work without it

I personally just don't get why they felt the need to censor out so much by changing words when there was already so much mature stuff in the first episodes of the show.

kjelfalconer it’s hilarious that they aren’t allowed to say “pound some rum and coke”, yet in the show the students party, drink, and do drugs! lol There are whole story lines around drugs going around the town and scenes showing characters getting drunk/ high, but heaven forbid they verbally allude to drinking alcohol!

Stop being such a doorknob.

@@zephyrweather I know it sounds really stupid but it's actually the high school version of heathers. I think riverdale tried to make it kind of realistic since they are in high school in the show, but it doesn't make any sense

same

yes

Yes

Make this happenn

Nats sooooo good I swear to god

The only way to describe there relationships is that they broke up kinda not really though. So they are on and off the the time

im your 800th like (just wanted to let everyone know)

they replaced 'snack' with 'ice cream' to rhyme it with 'football team' instead of 'quarterback'. I'm really not sure if dirty dancing with the whole team is really better than drinking rum&coke with one guy.

HAHAAAAA I FULLY STARTED CACKLING AT THIS BC I COULD HEAR ITTTTTTTT

Hahahaha that happend to me

These moments are what I kind of miss before I got the Ad Blocker. You just download it for free on your Google Chrome and it blocks all the ads for you. I keep forgetting that ads randomly pop up until I see one of these comments. This is hilarious, though.

@@anthoni426 Yeah I get that. You could try unblocking some websites, I've heard you can choose to unblock certain youtubers too with some ad blockers if you want to support them, I haven't tried it myself though.

yes! they let casey sing more!!!!

@@annamorgan9941 yes. Honestly the best part of the Hedwig episode was how much Casey Cott was singing in it.

I think they sounded a hell of a lot better in Hedwig, however if you're gonna do Hedwig use a trans character not a gay guy who suddenly is into Drag now even though he has never showed interest in Drag before

@@Sam-tk6dq Well... I think you are right. But I rather have a character that is part of the LGBTQ+ community play Hedwig then them giving this role to a random character (which I could unfortunately see the Riverdale writers do.... I mean look at the bad writing the past few seasons) And what I also appreciated is, that they gave Casey Cott (a singer with musical theater backround) the role and not someone else on the cast.

@@yannicknaytox6652 true but if they didn't have a main character to fit it then they shouldn't have done it in my opinion. I still think it sounded good though

Wise words😌

They didn't change the lyrics, that is illegal haha. This is the official 'high school' version of the Heathers script which is overall more PG, but has a reputation for being AWFUL in the theatre community as it was thrown together really fast so a lot of the lyric swaps are terrible.

@@courtneylewis2415 and that they removed an entire song as they removed blue I mean the creator said he Dosent like it tho

They’re performing the high school version of the show, but Riverdale itself is not actually an abstinent show. Lol

@@zookeeps1340 yeah well thats understandable but other than the topic blue is kinda funny.

@@courtneylewis2415 no please dont tell me that "youve just gotta prove youre not a dooor knob" are lyrics written by someone other than the lunatics at riverdale

Cole has expressed many times that he isn’t a singer. He doesn’t like singing. He refused to become a singer for Disney (even though there is that one song with ALL the Disney stars of that time, & the Tipton commercial episode) , he sure as hell isn’t going to for Riverdale 🤣

@@haileybellgibbs9263 True

@@shaliekk He refused to sing for the Carrie episode, I believe there was an article somewhere that said Lilli had to beg him to participate in the Heather’s songs

@@haileybellgibbs9263 no Cole said he would only sing if it made sense for the plot

@@azzabynes5707 i mean, a lot of people aren even decent singers or know anything about music, including me. I could literally sound bad with the best autotune in the world. And to force someone who doesnt like to sing and knows cant sing to sing? Thats kinda crappy. I would be so embarrassed and hurt if i was forced to sing, because i know I cant and i know nothing in post could fix that. Its totally fine to not be able to sing. Its not butchering a song when you know you cant sing.

reminds me of bill nye the science guy ngl

960th like

Thank you Mina!

@@gh05tb0yz I was thinking Xena. But Xena went so hard on the wooshes that it works somehow.

Fact I think that the people who actually give the go to for the sound effects people are the director-

IMAGINE THIS WHEN EVER SOMENE BLINKED IT WOOSHEDDDDDDDD EERGEDFBVFCCHGFCUG

The problem is that all the actors have very different voices. For example, Lili (Betty) and Cami (Veronica) have voices that blend well together cuz they both have lighter voices, but are still able to add power. On the other hand, Madelaine (Cheryl) has a much deeper voice that is more suitable for pop songs. The producers keep trying to get them to sing together and then add autotune in an attempt to make their voices blend, when it just doesn't. All that together just makes it sound really cheap and just overall bad.

Exception

Vanessa is trained too

she is? I know she sings but i didn't believe she was trained (I dont watch riverdale that much and only really know about casey)

@@eraspetsch they did her dirty in Dead Girl Walking.

Casey may be trained but Lili can sing really good

André Sequeira yeah they did, her voice is Just not Made for that song. If you listen to her own music you realise that She is actually angreat singer.

I was “ummm what’s wrong with his voice”

Yeah there was theory going around for a while that they used Ryan's vocals and lowered and I'm just like, where??? Where TF did they use Ryan's vocals

@@evandangel8173 personally, I still think they did that because Cole goes from being pitchy and flat on the low notes, nails the harmonies when he’s definitely not a tenor, and then goes back to being flat and pitchy. He just sounds way similar for it to be a coincidence

right, but at the same time i think it matches his character having his voice like that so it kind of works i feel like, even if it wasn't the best lol and tbh i rly enjoyed the song like i love his high notes SO much!!! soo pretty!!!

@@hollandfray4521 no it’s clearly just cole’s voice there’s no layering happening. i think ppl are underestimating how difficult it is to sing lower in ur range supported and find the pitch down there. his voice sounds way more comfortable higher and he is forced to support the belting note; he can’t get away with crappy breath support and u can hear it. also plenty of ppl open up at the mid to high end of their range vs the bottom 🤷‍♀️

I definitely agree that Madeline and Vanessa both have singing voices that don’t match their characters so they used a lot of auto tune to make them sing songs not for them but their characters .

I hate that they cant say "if you lack the balls, you can go play dolls. Let your mommy fix you a snack" but they can say "bitch and moan" like that doesn't make sense at all!

@@professionalhuman9447 exactly! And why changing the lyrics if they're going to oversexualise the choreo anyways 🤦🏻‍♀️

Not to mention doorknob

Olivia Shawyer I was gonna add this hahaha

Prove you’re not a doorknob! **proceeds to twerk and flash everyone**

i love your pfp

@@lenoralol9962 haha thx

They censored 'snack'

@@purplequeen5974 to have a word to rhyme with football team

@@crying5801 well changing "in my porche with the qb" to "dirty dancing with the football team" doesn't make any sense either. They are both implied sex.

Lame, essentially. They definitely should have picked a different insult. I think it’s the required lyrics of a high school or non Broadway production of heathers happens though.

Also, cool username

So doorknob is an old school insult that means whore or slut (not saying it to be offensive just pointing out a definition) it still doesn't make sense to change it when they have outrightly said these words before but I hope that makes a little more sense

Hahahah

it's called.................................................................................................... acting

@@aldendomino3523 it’s called............. a joke

lili was like 23 during this but yeah i guess mads was like 24 also 😂

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*snaps*

@Caitlyn M That's the Carrie episode

I don’t need friends. They disappoint me.

YOU MADE ME LAUGH WHILE MY FOOT WAS DYING HOW DARE U NOW I'M LAUGHING BUT IT HURTS

I feel bad for all the autotune Mads had for the musicals 😭😭💀

Hedwig was ok... just imagine if they did BMC....

@@ellahalvorsen9918 Oh my. I honestly would just like them to stop with musicals and focus on what the heck is happening with the plot....

Kat Burgess what plot???

Hi hahahaha for real

@@Hi-qk1pv The slight resemblance of a plot from s1 XD

seventeen was the only good song because lily can actually sing

HELL YEAH I don't like hating or unnecessary brutal criticism BUT DAMN DOES THIS SOUNDTRACK MAKE ME FEEL LIKE THEIR PUTTING HOT IRON TO MY SKIN

Also way too much autotune

@@lydiamaps2658 ya got that right

It really bugs me, because they CAN sing, but it’s so autotuned that you’d never know.

He had his voice mixed with either Casey (person who plays Kevin) cause he’s got a good voice or Ryan (original JD in off Broadway heathers) I’m pretty sure cause u can hear the voice kinda swap when ur gets high from what Cole sprouse sounds like to a bit more like yeah

they had him singing veronica's part and it was too low for his voice, so it was awkward

This makes total sense I can hear him a little bit

I was wondering this cuz I can hear Cole but then I know he doesn’t like (can’t really) singing but this makes sense thx

I would recognize Casey Cott's voice and I do not. I hear Cole, Lilli, the other two females and a lot of instrumentals and a little autotune. I am autistic with have perfect pitch and can recognize voices. I am not sure who made this rumor up but it is false.

@@Tanit333 I think I could hear Casey cuz that person said it was but Cole only sings a little and he lip syncs over someone else’s voice I can’t remember who tho

@@desnowleapord8271 he isn't lip syncing. I can hear his voice perfectly and it matches his speaking voice. I am sorry that you cannot hear that and I cannot fix your ears. 🤷

i’m a harmony

@@c0llapsingst4rs :000000

Everybody stopped understanding what was going on after the first season and it's just gotten worse

💔

Anna Robbie Wilcox dude when she said that I heard my own heart breaking.

Broke me

Explain pleaseee

@@marekmalich7793 they broke up

They used the high school book as in the show they where rehearsing for a high school musical

I'm pretty sure its the line that rhymes with it that says something about "rum and coke with the quarterback"

Because the line that follows is “Or you could come smoke, pound some rum and coke in my Porsche with the Quarterback”

Copyright maybe

I’m pretty sure it was to rhyme with the next stanza

Or Philippa Soo lol

@@childofthelivinggod. Holy crap I thought I was the only one who thought that!!!

@@_Paint_brush_000 :)

@@childofthelivinggod. ~(•u• ~)

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i swear its his voice layered with someone else's

@@beatrevorharris right?! I swear I hear Cole’s voice

definitely layered with ryan mccarten, no?

@Nina Vespoli no I’m pretty sure they layered with Ryan McCartan (og JD from off Broadway)

it all makes so much sense now lmaoo

Yes! I heard that too!

they did that during the episode. That was probably the only good part of that episode!

It’s underwhelming

Like some Riverdale versions may be better than some Broadway versions but please where is the ✨ I LIKE ✨ empathise

Yeah I’m uncomfortable with the energy we have created in the studio today

They can't do the line about doing coke with the quarterback

they do have multiple fitting scenes...if you just watched the s5 trailer that just released then umm you would realize in one of the clips, that was betty and Jughead like 1 thousand time but Betty with her bra off, like honestly I just don’t even know anymore

@@colesxgiftsxxx5137 so did Veronica and Archie and they didn’t use the come smoke pound some rum and coke in my porsha with the quarterback because they are performin in high school so like that wouldn’t be appropriate for high school

I love it, it really made me laugh 😆

Oh my gosh yes, it's so annoying!!!!

I was singing Say My Name the other day and my friend was like "oh my god, that's from tik tok!" And started joining in on the charades bit Luckily she likes musicals and if it was in West End she would definitely come watch with me 😹

Off topic but is that Patton

I hate TikTok, my favorite musical is bj, so I would sing "I was hot, I went to parties alot, ya kno--" and then they would be like tHaTs FrOm TiKtOk

@@anidleteen omg bj is my favorite musical, and I really want to see it :( too bad I'm not a rich new yorker

W O O S H goes Riverdale

@@metelicpug6675 YES thank you this made me laugh

*w h i p* *s t o m p i t y s t o m p*

@@internalscreaming7566 OH MY THE STOMPS DURING SEVENTEEN

*a slight gust of wind* Riverdale producer: TORNADO???

How are you alive after watching _Riverdale?_

I watched it....it’s not worth it DONT I repeat DONT bother watching it...it feels like a trauma

Your pfp is an accurate representation of someone watching Riverdale

@@thiccboi2879 for u

AGREED. I wanted to discuss this with more of her fans, do you think she watched this?

@@damunaik4 I reckon she heard about it and steered clear of it

Yes it is

And our quing Ryan McCartan

Alice Banghart I thought duck was lord

The lyric changes are just the high school production versions of the songs.

Take my words with a grain of salt but i think they layered his voice with Ryan's might be fake tho

Damnnnn that actually makes sense

they didn’t even layer it - it’s just ryan’s voice 😂

the verses were him but the chorus was ryan

Who on earth is Ryan?

Well, in season 2 they put on Carrie the musical while there was a serial killer going around killing people and then in season 3 they did this in the middle of the plot with the D&D rip-off murder cult.

@@KarlKristofferJohnsson WTFFFF

@@eugeneottingerliker thanks bestie

Omg I'm dying of laughter 🤣🤣

Yay

This is so accurate haha

But like this is so accurate

Lol

the seventeen reprise was awful honestly

the choreo during beautiful is just- no. sis said dO tHe WoRm

it’s just cole’s all the way through

Don't have a threesome in the auditorium is sososo good

It’s less that line and more the line that rhymes with it “pound some rum and coke in my Porsche with the quarterback” that they didn’t want to use

@@KatieE907 and the fact that they have entire episodes based on drugs lmao

@@jae5608 and people joining this cult thing that turns out to be an organ farm

Omg she does!!!!!!! 🍪

She totally does!

omggggg she does

YES

that's what I thought!

Yes I love that song Robert Manion is amazing

YES I LOVE HIM

Yes please I NEED see to her face at the choreography

i deadass CHOKED dude it was so funny to me

When I first saw the clip, I was laughing so hard, I did now expect that at all lmao

@Hailey Piercy it’s objectively true though. As someone who’s been singing for over a decade, “people hurt us” in this performance is absolutely bad. In Heathers, like was mentioned in the video, it’s supposed to have the power like you’re having a conversation, and you can just tell that Cole Sprouse did NOT want to sing for that episode, hence why it lacks power and enthusiasm. Perhaps if they had pulled a high school musical and replaced his voice with someone else’s it would’ve been fine, but the producers heard that and chose to keep it in.

@@SprintToggle What confuses me is that not only has Cole expressed that he didn't want to do the singing, in the chorus, they apparently did replace or mix his vocals with Casey Cott's just like they did with Zac Efron in HSM1. I don't get why they wouldn't just have someone else singing for him to begin with. I don't think he's tone deaf, but it really ruined the song because Lili sounded so good and you can tell from his voice that he did not want to do it.

@Hailey Piercy "I'd like to see you try" is a bit of a silly thing to say. I'm sure there are many people in the comments who are more than capable of singing the song better. I sing but I don't know much about stage/musical singing so I'm not going to act like I could since that's a whole different area of vocal expertise, but the truth is that it wasn't very good.

Well, that doesn’t sound toxic at all

DriftFromReality - It’s not. Their relationship is really strong and wholesome. They were just having a brief rough patch.

In pretty sure the thing rhey wanted to censor was "pound some rum and coke" but honestly considering the show in general it's so pointless and the changes sound sooooo stupid. It litteraly changed the whole verse for *that*

Hahahahahaha I was honestly shocked too when I heard how beautiful his voice is. Lili was too. She said she cried.

He had a lot of autotune so-